damn, what a dreamer, i've always wanted to own a vw golf gti since i was in high school, just graduated from university and hope to own this car very soon :)
I’ve watched this review so many times, I loved my Clubsport edition 40, i had to rewatch it because I’m sure I remember that it was mentioned he worked on the mk1 focus, I’ve got just a mk1 focus rs & you definitely can feel the similarities that’s actually crazy.
I currently have a stage 2 gti ed30 with 320bhp and had a mk4 anni too before......this mk7 cs is what the standard mk7 gti should have been from day one as it would be better than and r...but only on a track. Since the mk5 the gti has been in no mans land due to the r...just look at the sales figures...you hardly see any mk6 or mk7 gtis here in the uk on road...so styling wise the cs is better than the r...but i think youd buy the r due to greater tunability and the 4wd that will really put the power down....btw...youd have to be on drugs to buy a cupra L over the gti cs if they are the same price...have you seen the interior of the seat....its miles behind....then theres the image!
I'm disappointed they didn't give it any more negative camber in the front. I am constantly having to flip the tires on my GTI due to it having such little camber. It wears the outsides really badly.
I bet it feels special and I would love to drive one, but I can't help but feel that they could've done more. This engine is making 300 hp in other cars and still with plenty of room to go up, they really didn't cut any weight, no brake upgrade.
It'll be between the gti and r obv. depends where you live i say. I gotta deal with winter so i'd opt for the awd R (R400 is what i'm going to buy actually). I think this clubsport is just a one and done model for the 40th anniversary of the golf brand anyway so it won matter it'll be back to the gti vs R vs R400 eventually which makes more sense to me. 230hp/300hp/400hp
No, from what I've seen we don't really need it. We have enough economy car companies. I get that they make a few good driver cars but I am more excited about Alfa Romeo coming to the states than I would be with Renault.
Evan Gonzalez not that i am a huge renault fan, but they are still are important manufacturer in the old world. Have fun with the alfas, they are getting quite cool in the last few years. As an exchange we finally are able to buy a Ford mustang at a ford dealership :)
No. I'm in Toronto (Can) and I asked the guy at VW if it's comin to North America and he said no. But from what i've heard the Golf R400 will be coming.
Golf GTI PP, remap from preferred company, 300+ bhp, 300+ lbft. VWR springs, intake, cat back, alloys. Still works out cheaper. That or Seat Cupra280 second hand is more car for about £22,000 for a year old one. Only thing you want is the buckets 😊
+TheSchool45 The GTI Clubsport can be ordered in germany for around 34.000€ and the Seats are included in that Price. The only Thing you´ve to pay for is like the other ones for Soundsystem, DSG and more. My Dad has 7R Golf and its fast and sticky on the Ground but i think the Clubsport with Semi Slicks ins´t that slower in corners :D
He seems to bounce quite a lot in the seat. Worrying especially because he's on a smooth circuit. I wonder if VW has got the suspension setup too stiff in the pursuit of lap times? If you want a circuit hatch; just go buy one that was meant to be a track hatch from the word go, RenaultSport Megane, etc.
I have a MK7 GTI (stock engine). With only an engine and DSG tune I am now making 278hp @ 4400 rpm and 350 lb-ft torque @ 3200 rpm. United Motorsport made the tune and I now have nearly as much hp and more torque than an R. Do the exterior changes really make enough difference to justify buying this car and the interior is practically the same. You can always install an alcantara steering wheel wrap aftermarket.
@@topdoge2632 well the engine is the same with a bigger turbo. my haldex is pretty good in my opinion. The seats are easy to do aftermarket or just buy the same seats
I'm fining myself saying this quite a bit but for only a little more you could get the new Focus RS. With out driving them I think the RS would be the one id want by a country mile.
Is this coming to North America or are we getting ignored as usual? Really like this car, but I'm likely going to keep saving and pray that the R400 is actually going to be made and sold in Canada. Anyone have any insight on either?
it's the FF version of the Golf R with few bit of aero tweaks and super sticky tires put this aero kit and tires to the golf R, I think it would be more appropriate for the Clubsport name
They don't need to. They're making the golf r400, which will be all that and then some if the reports are indeed true. then there will really be no competition for it. 400hp awd with this aero package or something similar.
like you said it, that is, if it's true... i hope they really releasing the 400 since they were battling the diesel problems which getting worse and eating all of their money reserves... that's why i'm saying, put the clubsport pack to the standard golf R and put a little bit more power, say 320hp, should be more viable, just saying
The Golf R is kinda boring these days, ever since they stopped using the VR6 it's just become an AWD GTI with a 'blender' sounding engine. Besides the VR6 models, 337 and this clubsport, I find it difficult to favor these cars for occasional track use.
Is this not the performance Golf you would always want to either own or have owned. It just looks so nice and those seats....its just the performance Golf you'd want to live with everyday and enjoy cleaning on nice days
Civic type R will smash that thing up being the same segment, 310hp at exactly same base price, real downforce too. The megane is not the rival, is the civic, you should compare properly. Extrange!
Stock Mk.7 GTI already struggles to put down power in first two gears. I assume this eats front tires like crazy. Golf R is the way to go if you want a faster GTI.
I don't understand VW. They should have made this have the Cupra's 290 hp engine with Brembos. It would have been much more of a weapon. I got a Cupra a few weeks ago and it's got 280 hp, the same brakes as this, the same differential, 19" wheels as standard and all that for €28,600 which could actually have been €2,000 less. Missed opportunity for VW in my opinion.
Krusty Komedy Klassic It depends in terms of what. In terms of design it's OK, nothing special although I wouldn't say it's lame. I've also speced the full bucket seats which make things much, much nicer. In terms of ergonomics it's excellent (like all German cars although I know it's not German in theory). In terms of quality it's better than I expected. The differences with the Golf for example are quite small and it has leather and alcantara. In terms of environment it's also excellent. White and red lighting, hidden LEDs on the doors, very pleasing.
+ianiva Nice. The reason why I brought this up is that I'm thoroughly tempted by a León SC , as it looks like a properly special hatchback (those front leds...) without costing a fortune, however the interior to me never looked so great, especially when compared to that of a golf highline, which I also own. But I guess what really counts is that german quality and ergonomics, not the look.
Krusty Komedy Klassic Yeah although to be honest I don't find the Golf's interior that special either. In terms of dash design for example I'd put them on the same level. What's also amazing about the Leon is the standard equipment. It really has everything you need and many more things than a Golf of equal spec. It even has more stuff than an A3. Are you looking at the Cupra? Also, are you sure about the SC version? Obviously that's subjective but the more I was looking at the Leon, the more cohesive it looked as a 5door. Initially I was considering buying the SC as well but then I changed my mind.
Warum werden die guten und neuen Tests fast immer erst in der englischen Sprache gemacht. Ist doch ein deutsches Auto, VW, Golf GTI, Clubsport, warum nicht auf Deutsch?
I'd still own a VW gti, that diesel scandal is with diesel engines only. Petrol is different and if you want to say that VW is bad overall sure. In the past all their cars weren't the best to be done in the USA but in Europe and other places they are great. I have a 2010 Jetta petrol and no problems.
theres this drive to get quicker from A to B - why? to save time maybe if youre in that much of a rush? youd think 9 years old boys were buying cars like this.
and a manual gearbox VW are the best these days. Everyone is making fast auto gearboxes to make the car faster but no one is thinking for the joy for the driver
So my GTI has a neuspeed rear sway bar and end links and dropped on VWR springs... It still rolls like a mother fucker. I don't see how this one handles any better.
The way the 290hp boosting works is that the car gives itself slightly more boost for 10 seconds of WOT and weens it off using the wastegate smoothly enough that it's not very noticeable. The reason they've put a timer on it is that if the turbo produces more boost for a long period of time it'll get hotter, in turn heating the air causing the car to pull timing, lose fuel economy, and potentially (although definitely not in this case) damage the motor. Basically it stops people from just pegging it in high gears for an extended period of time and wearing the engine out faster. Brilliant idea, I can see this being implemented more in the future.
Why didnt vw give the clubsport 350 bhp and call it that. Yes it would of been more power than the r but i thought vw was producing this car to celerbrate 40 years so they should of done it with a bang 😎
Augusto Ortiz Hmm might be because before the R came out people got the GTI and because it's cheaper it sold in more numbers? And the R only came out recently as well
+S Miller not really, where i live the gti with just a few add ons cost as much as the r, they are both really expensive here. And they both arrived at about the same time in this island. Yet the R barely sells here
+S Miller Yea I don't understand why they didn't clubsport the R. This just sounds like they're finding marketing gaps lol! Wouldn't waste my money on it tbh
why does this GTI look so much better than R ?
True, R is not a distant beauty, you only notice its striking looks when it's HERE!
That spoiler.
Yes the spoiler and fins at the front make it look way better.
Especially the inside, man.
Because its the 40 Year Anniversary GTI (Clubsport!) - Enjoy checking out how i am continuisly modding mine on my TH-cam channel guys! 👍
this is what the Golf R should look like!!!!
The R400 will!
Three Polar Bears died during the making of this film...
There is much much more people died today :(
+GTS LOVER even more kids were born :)
+Xenial Xerus go and tell the bears to do the same .
I mean they have what we have .
+Will James
Hopefully a skilled hunter penetrated their skull with a perfect one shot hunting kill.
And there are many many, more of us.
Getting much, much better at these Dan, well done!
Great review. Gets to the inner essence of what this car is about, good work matey
Drove it yesterday .. what a car ! Extremely impressive acceleration and significantly better than a normal gti
damn, what a dreamer, i've always wanted to own a vw golf gti since i was in high school, just graduated from university and hope to own this car very soon :)
Did you?
Nothing yet?
They only made 400, so good luck
Got an R35
@@aimanvic1995 congratulations, i hope to own this car very soon as well :)
inshallah
I’ve watched this review so many times, I loved my Clubsport edition 40, i had to rewatch it because I’m sure I remember that it was mentioned he worked on the mk1 focus, I’ve got just a mk1 focus rs & you definitely can feel the similarities that’s actually crazy.
Love mine too , only got 500 down in OZ only 100 manual , this is my keeper , makes my TT feel like slug .
VW.
+Ashish Patel fools still believing in VW.
+Hubert Walter Who cares if their cars are still better than others.
+Hubert Walter like I care about about a little more co2, they're awesome cars
+Hubert Walter the emmissions problem only effects the diesel cars. what has it got to do with this video ?
***** please provide an article reference
What's that camera in the passenger windshield, clever genuises?
Just spent a week driving the Clubsport around the winding roads of Chapmans Peak drive in Cape Town, such an incredible machine!
What a road!
Please sort out your audio EVO, please...
+James Bourne no one cares
+Xenial Xerus no one cares
There is possibility to do comparison between golf 7 r and golf 7 gti clubsport like it was in rs3 and golf r?
Sooooo can you fully switch off the Stability Control in this thing now?
I would definitely pick that over the R. I’d pick that over my old r32 as well. Wish we had it here.
when will this car be released?
Is it coming to the USA? If so when?
very gd review, & well said it is the sweet spot of the golf range
I currently have a stage 2 gti ed30 with 320bhp and had a mk4 anni too before......this mk7 cs is what the standard mk7 gti should have been from day one as it would be better than and r...but only on a track. Since the mk5 the gti has been in no mans land due to the r...just look at the sales figures...you hardly see any mk6 or mk7 gtis here in the uk on road...so styling wise the cs is better than the r...but i think youd buy the r due to greater tunability and the 4wd that will really put the power down....btw...youd have to be on drugs to buy a cupra L over the gti cs if they are the same price...have you seen the interior of the seat....its miles behind....then theres the image!
+EVO The video transcoding on this video is terrible as it crushes the quality. Please do the HD video justice by transcoding it properly in future.
+Ben Park no one cares :P
+Xenial Xerus no one cares :P
+Xenial Xerus i care. .....
GTI clubsport or Cupra 290 sub8 performance?
What's the steering like? As boring as the latest Leon?
How much is it?
Why would you pay 1000€ extra for the GTI CS when the Cupra R outputs 290PS all the time and not just on overboost? Same tires, same chassis...
+HolySteel For the eksklusive...
+HolySteel actually, seat has a better setup and is even more balanced and agressive.
+HolySteel The Golf has better interior and will have better resale value
+HolySteel seat has bad quality
***** That is like saying your Twin Sister is bad quality..
how much?
this is proper. love it! the R still does not bubble my blood. mainly because, I feel, the R should be VR6 powered.
I bet this was much faster than Harris's laps in the Hyper 3!
+Nik Brudar i heard the laptime in the golf was 69 seconds faster then the mclaren p1
***** hahah Ferrari fanboy coming up with worthless excuses for being beaten by a Golf ;)
Please review the facelift 2016 AMG A45
When you open an evo review and you're like "please don't be Dan Prosser, please don't be Dan Prosser. Aww nuts."
I'm disappointed they didn't give it any more negative camber in the front. I am constantly having to flip the tires on my GTI due to it having such little camber. It wears the outsides really badly.
Can you turn stability and traction completely off in this?
+Avrilcadabra no
yes basically like the base mk7 gti except it looks more better and has more power.
great looking car
I bet it feels special and I would love to drive one, but I can't help but feel that they could've done more. This engine is making 300 hp in other cars and still with plenty of room to go up, they really didn't cut any weight, no brake upgrade.
I ordered one, but i still can choose if i take the DSG or the manual... What do you guys think?
Hope you choosed manual lol.
@@topdoge2632 I did :)
Definitely looks badass, the rims look awesome too. But might as well get the Golf R? Whats the price gap?
It'll be between the gti and r obv. depends where you live i say. I gotta deal with winter so i'd opt for the awd R (R400 is what i'm going to buy actually). I think this clubsport is just a one and done model for the 40th anniversary of the golf brand anyway so it won matter it'll be back to the gti vs R vs R400 eventually which makes more sense to me. 230hp/300hp/400hp
+chadgrov holy shit didn't even know there's a R400...that would be amazing.
+yyyy2999 yeah dude, youtube it and google it dude. apparently it's being made but i dont want to get my hopes up
It seems that you were reaching for the paddles to change gear to me...maybe the "R" you drove to the airport was "DSG"?
I love the seats
In the world of Seat, Renault and Honda, I'm sorry VW can't justify it's "premium" price and expensive service.
I agree with u 100%
+tavirosu25 Seat is VW... and Honda is not close to what they were pre-tsunami. Renault doesn't sell in the states so idc.
+Evan Gonzalez there is no renault in the us?
No, from what I've seen we don't really need it. We have enough economy car companies. I get that they make a few good driver cars but I am more excited about Alfa Romeo coming to the states than I would be with Renault.
Evan Gonzalez not that i am a huge renault fan, but they are still are important manufacturer in the old world. Have fun with the alfas, they are getting quite cool in the last few years. As an exchange we finally are able to buy a Ford mustang at a ford dealership :)
The question is, can you deactivate the ESP and have some more fun?
Its a good review...I appreciate it but, we are not getting the car in the US which sucks...!
Is this coming to the US?
No. I'm in Toronto (Can) and I asked the guy at VW if it's comin to North America and he said no. But from what i've heard the Golf R400 will be coming.
I was reading an article saying that they will bring it to the US in 2016
Golf GTI PP, remap from preferred company, 300+ bhp, 300+ lbft.
VWR springs, intake, cat back, alloys.
Still works out cheaper.
That or Seat Cupra280 second hand is more car for about £22,000 for a year old one.
Only thing you want is the buckets 😊
wait. how much?!?! and no brembo's? nice seats though, lets hope there not an optional extra....
+TheSchool45 The GTI Clubsport can be ordered in germany for around 34.000€ and the Seats are included in that Price. The only Thing you´ve to pay for is like the other ones for Soundsystem, DSG and more. My Dad has 7R Golf and its fast and sticky on the Ground but i think the Clubsport with Semi Slicks ins´t that slower in corners :D
He seems to bounce quite a lot in the seat. Worrying especially because he's on a smooth circuit. I wonder if VW has got the suspension setup too stiff in the pursuit of lap times?
If you want a circuit hatch; just go buy one that was meant to be a track hatch from the word go, RenaultSport Megane, etc.
with all those compliments ,,, ,are you tryin to say , it's better than a golf R?
I don't understand the short head rests on the seats!
I have a MK7 GTI (stock engine). With only an engine and DSG tune I am now making 278hp @ 4400 rpm and 350 lb-ft torque @ 3200 rpm. United Motorsport made the tune and I now have nearly as much hp and more torque than an R. Do the exterior changes really make enough difference to justify buying this car and the interior is practically the same. You can always install an alcantara steering wheel wrap aftermarket.
The clubsport has the same engine as the R, VAQ diff, recaro seats and was available with a manual gearbox. There's not just exterior changes.
@@topdoge2632 indeed
@@topdoge2632 well the engine is the same with a bigger turbo. my haldex is pretty good in my opinion. The seats are easy to do aftermarket or just buy the same seats
I'm fining myself saying this quite a bit but for only a little more you could get the new Focus RS.
With out driving them I think the RS would be the one id want by a country mile.
The knuckles on these cars are actually different to the regular GTI. They add camber.
can't wait for the golf 8 gti in a couple of years
want it just like that in the states.
Is this coming to North America or are we getting ignored as usual? Really like this car, but I'm likely going to keep saving and pray that the R400 is actually going to be made and sold in Canada. Anyone have any insight on either?
+chadgrov Stop crying about it because Canada will definitely get ignored as always.
Great car
it's the FF version of the Golf R with few bit of aero tweaks and super sticky tires
put this aero kit and tires to the golf R, I think it would be more appropriate for the Clubsport name
They don't need to. They're making the golf r400, which will be all that and then some if the reports are indeed true. then there will really be no competition for it. 400hp awd with this aero package or something similar.
like you said it, that is, if it's true... i hope they really releasing the 400 since they were battling the diesel problems which getting worse and eating all of their money reserves... that's why i'm saying, put the clubsport pack to the standard golf R and put a little bit more power, say 320hp, should be more viable, just saying
Got to be close to the golf r now
Nice to see it has a proper gearbox - ie a manual and not a stupid DSG.
Did I just seen an VW 2016 model review with manual gearbox? WoW ... They really want to repair the emission reputation :-D
3000 euro for those wheels with the cupsport2 tyres, outrageous priced option!
Portimão!
mic is clipping..
And it's a manual. Lovely :)
I like the vw guy, straight to the point no fluff salesmen bullshit, good chap
The Golf R is kinda boring these days, ever since they stopped using the VR6 it's just become an AWD GTI with a 'blender' sounding engine. Besides the VR6 models, 337 and this clubsport, I find it difficult to favor these cars for occasional track use.
R32 owner :) yes not the fastest car but has character if you're lucky enough to have enough money to FI it then you're laughing win win
Is this not the performance Golf you would always want to either own or have owned.
It just looks so nice and those seats....its just the performance Golf you'd want to live with everyday and enjoy cleaning on nice days
I'd hold out for a Focus RS.
Civic type R will smash that thing up being the same segment, 310hp at exactly same base price, real downforce too. The megane is not the rival, is the civic, you should compare properly. Extrange!
Golf R Clubsport in the pipeline? R400??
Apparently the R400 is being made. If so, i'm buying one.
It has been withdrawn
I wish we had this version in US. I wouldn't even care about the R version.
Yeah man, as he just said.....
Stock Mk.7 GTI already struggles to put down power in first two gears. I assume this eats front tires like crazy. Golf R is the way to go if you want a faster GTI.
Z
If I wanted a track car I would have to go for the R....
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I don't understand VW. They should have made this have the Cupra's 290 hp engine with Brembos. It would have been much more of a weapon. I got a Cupra a few weeks ago and it's got 280 hp, the same brakes as this, the same differential, 19" wheels as standard and all that for €28,600 which could actually have been €2,000 less. Missed opportunity for VW in my opinion.
+ianiva And the Cupra 280 is faster than even the R around a track.
How's the interior IRL? From official photos it looks slightly lame (for a normal leon at least)
Krusty Komedy Klassic It depends in terms of what. In terms of design it's OK, nothing special although I wouldn't say it's lame. I've also speced the full bucket seats which make things much, much nicer. In terms of ergonomics it's excellent (like all German cars although I know it's not German in theory). In terms of quality it's better than I expected. The differences with the Golf for example are quite small and it has leather and alcantara. In terms of environment it's also excellent. White and red lighting, hidden LEDs on the doors, very pleasing.
+ianiva Nice. The reason why I brought this up is that I'm thoroughly tempted by a León SC , as it looks like a properly special hatchback (those front leds...) without costing a fortune, however the interior to me never looked so great, especially when compared to that of a golf highline, which I also own. But I guess what really counts is that german quality and ergonomics, not the look.
Krusty Komedy Klassic Yeah although to be honest I don't find the Golf's interior that special either. In terms of dash design for example I'd put them on the same level. What's also amazing about the Leon is the standard equipment. It really has everything you need and many more things than a Golf of equal spec. It even has more stuff than an A3.
Are you looking at the Cupra? Also, are you sure about the SC version? Obviously that's subjective but the more I was looking at the Leon, the more cohesive it looked as a 5door. Initially I was considering buying the SC as well but then I changed my mind.
brakes easy to sort, ap racings ;)
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I love this "german" english :D
Audio on interview is horrendous!
Warum werden die guten und neuen Tests fast immer erst in der englischen Sprache gemacht. Ist doch ein deutsches Auto, VW, Golf GTI, Clubsport, warum nicht auf Deutsch?
VolksWagen ♥..........................Great!
And it still looks to subtle and tame.
Please bring the 3 Door to Australia VW
Shame it didn't get the Concept Car's wheels.
7:55 I see what you did there!
One big Golf 7 commercial Don't forget the shit whit the 6 Gti That one broke down every time
I'd still own a VW gti, that diesel scandal is with diesel engines only. Petrol is different and if you want to say that VW is bad overall sure. In the past all their cars weren't the best to be done in the USA but in Europe and other places they are great. I have a 2010 Jetta petrol and no problems.
theres this drive to get quicker from A to B - why? to save time maybe if youre in that much of a rush? youd think 9 years old boys were buying cars like this.
GO VOLKSWAGEN
and a manual gearbox VW are the best these days. Everyone is making fast auto gearboxes to make the car faster but no one is thinking for the joy for the driver
So my GTI has a neuspeed rear sway bar and end links and dropped on VWR springs... It still rolls like a mother fucker. I don't see how this one handles any better.
It makes 290hp when the defeat system is on :P
The way the 290hp boosting works is that the car gives itself slightly more boost for 10 seconds of WOT and weens it off using the wastegate smoothly enough that it's not very noticeable. The reason they've put a timer on it is that if the turbo produces more boost for a long period of time it'll get hotter, in turn heating the air causing the car to pull timing, lose fuel economy, and potentially (although definitely not in this case) damage the motor.
Basically it stops people from just pegging it in high gears for an extended period of time and wearing the engine out faster. Brilliant idea, I can see this being implemented more in the future.
Why didnt vw give the clubsport 350 bhp and call it that. Yes it would of been more power than the r but i thought vw was producing this car to celerbrate 40 years so they should of done it with a bang 😎
Does anyone still buy the GTI with the R being out there?
Strangely, i see a lot more gti's than R's. I would never buy a gti
Augusto Ortiz Hmm might be because before the R came out people got the GTI and because it's cheaper it sold in more numbers? And the R only came out recently as well
+S Miller not really, where i live the gti with just a few add ons cost as much as the r, they are both really expensive here. And they both arrived at about the same time in this island. Yet the R barely sells here
Augusto Ortiz Where are you in the world?
+S Miller Yea I don't understand why they didn't clubsport the R. This just sounds like they're finding marketing gaps lol! Wouldn't waste my money on it tbh
Still leon cupra r
defeat device :) well played ..
So, it's definitely agile then
Terrible audio on this one.
K
+Matt Walker It's because GTIs are quiet.
+TassieLorenzo *gti's are boring
I love Evo magazine but the videos really aren't a match for the quality of the publication.
Cool story, bro
Think the focus RS is the smarter buy
fakkoo63 this car doesn't compete with the RS.