The Jeep Wrangler TJ Has A Major Suspension Flaw, Let’s Fix it!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- All Jeep Wrangler TJs have a major suspension issue in the rear...If I had bought my jeep with no intention of wheeling or lifting the jeep, then this would not matter... In the rear, the upper coil spring bracket/bucket is mounted on the frame at an angle, causing the rear springs to sit with a curve. The problem is that when I am flexed out, the spring literally pops OUT of place! While wheeling in Moab, this happened multiple times on the trails and our group had to help me get it back in place. It happened over and over, essentially wasting time on the trails when we could be wheeling. There is a simple solution to this, and that is what I did in this video! We grinded off the old curved upper coil spring brackets from the frame and welded new upper coil spring brackets to the frame to straighten out the spring. Now that the springs are sitting straight and have spring retainers on the upper and lower brackets, my spring will never pop out again when going up or down an obstacle!
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I like that Cassie is using a light when welding. I've struggled for a while with sometimes losing my line of sight when welding but found that using an extra light really helped alot.
Same! glad im not the only one. A light helps SO much.
Sure do miss the content you bring. TJ/LJ content is the best.
I love this channel. You guys have such a better show then anything on Sunday morning! Great chemistry and content! Thank you for all the hard work that you guys do to put great videos together, it's not easy.
The first time I wheeled Daniel at Uwharrie (you guys remember that!) I was with a TJ and had the same issue. Guy would pop his spring out and like a pit crew me and my buddies would get under and push the Jeep and pop the spring in. Happened like 7 times on that trail and was a great time!
Love Barnes stuff, and love cutting stuff off and welding superior stuff on! Awesome video and the LJ is getting more and more badass!
I was extremely impressed by how much travel this thing has! I have a TJR on 35’s and a short arm 4” and I might have to look into this kit! that travel is insane, I thought you could really only get that by going to coils
You just need to make sure your shock extended compressed lengths work for you. You only need about 4.5-5.5 inches of up travel. Just keep that in mind and figure out what compressed length you need to get that amount of up travel and that should increase your flex significantly
Well, those are coils, so there's that. And it will definitely flex more when you done attach the coil to anything on one end.
You make this look easy; I don’t have a the tools or the skill set to do these kinds of modifications so I live vicariously through your channel. ✌🏼
Love watching you guys! Cassie is a great welder! Barnes makes some great stuff too! I have Rock Krawler triple rate springs which eliminate springs popping out at full flex. Them and the Fox Shocks really upgraded my JKU Rubicon ride! Cant wait to meet up with you guys wheeling!
You can do a coil correction on the cheap also. Cut the original bracket off turn it around backwards reweld ..done.. and FREE
Nice work guys. Thanks for showing that you can wheel on coils just like you can still wheel on leaf springs lol.
Great project and awesome fix! You are a Beast at welding and Flexin!!
Ben seriously looks like a different person these days. Great job!
Great video, I have a 2006 LJ myself and just finished doing the same install of coil correction pads and outboard my shocks. Love watching you work on your own LJ and then wheeling the snot out of it!!!!!!!
Awesome video.. We had a blast meeting you two at Crossbar on Saturday.. wish we could have stayed longer and wheeled a little more...Adulting and all... keep up the good work...
Hope to run into you guys again at crossbar. Adulting lol I totally get it
Metalcloak makes a little angle correction plate that angles the coil more forward but yeah you could move the whole bucket too.
Time to outboard the rear shocks. Great video
Since any flex with no chassis weight on the axle has nearly zero benefits a simple limiting strap cures your issue. A lifted tire has nearly the same traction as a tire contacting the ground with no chassis weight on it unless you're using extremely heavy axles like a 14 bolt or a dana 80 even with heavy bead locks and 40s. Yours is one of my favorite Jeep channels. You keep it interesting and fun. Well done as always. Would add the limiting straps even with the relocated spring buckets. Of course, I am all about light weight so your priorities may differ.
I agree with you in regards to traction. However downtravel can have more benefits than traction, such as keeping the jeep more level during a flex situation (which is what I like).
I’d rather have more travel, than less travel. Even if not needed. A limit strap would have helped, but why limit it when you can go more? That’s like asking a tj owner why they are running 12” coilovers in the rear when they could just go with 10s.
I’m not an expert in 4 links and antisquat, however I think that even a tiny bit of traction on a wheel that’s fully flexed (even with little weight on the tire) can transfer a good amount of traction and energy through the chassis due to the anti squat and recurring path of torque.
Guessing you’ve dropped this channel? Loved it!
Great video, guys! Love the LJ. 💪🏼
Having the springs pop out is an issue. But, having an axle droop so far that the spring can come out does you no good offroad. That tire is carrying no weight. You also meet to get longer springs and/or limit straps. Multi rate springs will allow for the same ride height but will droop and retain pressure on the drooped wheel.
4 link and antisquat will do more with torque transfer than a multi rate spring with a long free length and top wound coils with less than 30 in/lbs of spring rate. Took it wheeling over the weekend and it did phenomenal
You'd be surprised how much just having the weight of just the axle and tire touching down will help you. It's 100's of lbs and it's not like the downforce from a duel rate coil will help much if you compare both at the same amount of droop.
if you already haven’t done it . get yourself some duel rate coils. they won’t pop out at all. i e got them with no limit straps and a 6” long arm kit. never had one coil pop
@Jeep Gear & Gadgets yea a how i learned to weld,tips and tricks to get people going would be a great video :)
I want to see the out takes of the bump stop throw... :D
Idk how y'all still find the enjoyment of working on your rigs, I'm so over working on my jku that I've decided after I finish up this 14 bolt I'm through lol I had ORI and rear triangulated system in the works that I completely scratched and said f it I'll drag my rear long arm brackets on rocks and ill stick with my fancy shocks and coil springs lmao
Great job Cassie!
I thought you guys looked familiar. when you said cross bar it clicked I'd seen you guys around town.
Great video … you are an awesome welder 🔥
Y’all modified them jeeps so much that they are like stock cars in that they only share a badge with the factory vehicles but it looks awesome 😎
HOLD UP...... has Ben lost like 20-30 lbs? Dude is lookin slim!
He's killing it. Good for him!
Right!! Yeah he’s lost about 35 lbs. he is lookin good, proud of him
He looks amazing 🤩 💪🏻
Where did you go? Just found this channel. Was watching some of the videos and see this was a year ago.
Hell we talked about the spring bucket with you way back before ya’ll moved to Texas , and ya answered me and said yea we got a fix for that 😂😂😂 ,, glad to see after a decade🤣🤣 ya got it fixed … did ya get the lockers fixed 🤷♀️
Yeah we procrastinated on this fix😂 glad it’s done. Lockers are working!
@@JeepGearGadgets awesome !
Looks great 👍
Awesome video guys, any noticeable difference in ride height?
I’m loving it 🥰
do you guys do custom work? would love to drop a couple jeeps off.. also you said my name at 8:27 lol thanks
What springs are you running and what’s the brand of the buckets with retainer?
Also a chunk of tubing will do the same thing without buying the bracket
Man you guys inspire me !!!!
Cassie, I am looking at getting the long arm kit from Barnes when it comes back in stock. My question is I have a 4 inch rear stretch on my lj. Is there enough dom tube to accommodate my stretch or would I need to call them and get longer tube? Thanks!
THANKS! Classy Cassie 👍🙃
Great video! I'm fixing to do the same thing. Quick question, why didn't you outboard the shocks while in there?
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Air hammer on those bracket welds will usually take them off quick. :) for next time.
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Kind of a bad design Jeep has. I mean everyone lifts their jeeps as I did my 2001 Jeep Cherokee xj. Don’t drop your bump stops or springs WTH are ya doing wheelies too ! You go girl.
Where are you guys haven't seen you in forever
I didn't see you mention it at all, how did you ensure you didn't change ride height when moving the spring perch? FWIW lots of us that go long travel don't do coil overs (nor long arms) - we just outboard with a 12" shock biased 50/50.
we def need an lj update!
They haven't uploaded anything in a year. I doubt there will be any updates.
Ben and Cassie,
Just a question, I have a 2006 Jeep LJ, and I have a set of 6 inch Metal Cloak dual rate springs sitting in boxes in my garage. I don't know what level lift you are going for on the LJ, let me know, Rob...
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Hey Cassie what's going on? How come you aren't posting anymore.
NEW VIDEOOOO!
I never understood why they angled the rear. The relocate kit is super cheap
Have you done a review of the tires you went with?
What black spray was that? Turned out great
Ive seen people outboard the shocks while relocating the spring mounts. Did you guys consider this?
Yeah, but for now I don’t really need anymore travel. Will outboard later down the road when I switch to coilovers
Can you please tell me where you got those rock side panel skins. Need them on my lj.
Is the rear sway bar connected in this video at the end?
16k in 4 months holy geez. Hate to see that gas bill
where are you guys is long time from last video?
Very cool
So do you love those Atturo tires???????????
Ya’ll need a plasma cutter in your shop.
when are you coming out with new videos
What percentage does the 1 time use code get you off?
Plasma cutter might be a worthy investment.
Luckily we have one! Just waiting on Ben to install the air compressor in the shop haha
you should cut that panard bar bracket off
@7:03-7:35ish No audio lol
Probably been asked before but I didn't see it but how come y'all don't buy a 30' gooseneck trailer and a big truck to tow both your jeeps to events?
Takes the fun out of the experience in my opinion. Jeeping and working on your own rigs is fun. No point in owning a street legal jeep and trailering it everywhere…. If I was going to trailer something I would build a badass buggy and trailer that everywhere.
But this is just my opinion, to each their own!
@@JeepGearGadgets yeah I hear ya. I just seen people including myself that have street legal jeeps out wheeling and break something where you don't have the parts so then you either have to pay for tow or borrow someone's trailer. I have friends with street legal jeeps like yours and trailer them. But you're right, to each their own. Bad a$$ rigs y'all have and keep up the great work!
Any new videos?
No more new videos?
What happened to this channel haven’t seen anything in a while
so what happend to this channel? no more vids in a year
Can you say coilovers or ORI struts?
Yeah those are a great option. But this shows a very inexpensive way to keep coil springs and still have a ton of flex. Too many people jump straight to coilovers or ORIs
Can you check please
good morning 😂
I thought y’all lived down by spi
We moved back in November
Im guessing this channel is over??
Ya know 🙄
Yeah no
@@JeepGearGadgets Neither do we but you keep saying Ya know 🙄
So I don't care what people do to their own vehicles. But don't you have to have a special certification to weld stuff for a vehicle? To still comply with DOT standard or something?
No, this is America lol.
Dot doesn’t apply to personal vehicles.
@@JeepGearGadgets really? I am no expert. I am currently stationed overseas and have witnessed people having issues shipping their cars back to America if their windshield and tires don't have DOT stamps
2 words: Limiting Straps
I want down travel. I don’t want to limit it
Limiting straps exist only for the purpose of protecting a shock from wear from overextension
I happened across this video. I used to subscribe but since the focus on Bronco came about, I left. Maybe you need a new channel: Bronco Gear and Gadgets? When I see that, I'll come back.
2 bronco videos made you unsubscribe after all the jeep content I have put out and will be putting out in the future? Good riddance. See ya.
Guess they sold the jeeps and or don’t keep us posted on the upgrades. That happens when you move and go west. You become to good for the common folk and forget the roots.
You are wrong. Still here and rootin deep with all our jeeps.
@@JeepGearGadgets havnt seen much out of you.