Don't Buy This Youtube Channel
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This video is an opinion and in no way should be construed as statements of fact. Scams, bad business opportunities, and fake gurus are subjective terms that mean different things to different people. I think someone who promises $100K/month for an upfront fee of $2K is a scam. Others would call it a Napoleon Hill pitch. - บันเทิง
The funniest part is his sales pitch sounds like every NFT project.
yeah it gave me cryptoland vibes, but i ignored that because, it's Disrupt! why would i question him? good thing i never bought in, knew something was fishy
EXACTLY. I thought it was a parody at first
Fr! Glad coffezilla did decide to make a video TO CLARIFY HIS OPINIONS AND ENLIGHTEN US about this and open eyes about the other rather scummy intentions on this project, not like the blinded disrupt fan in the “I’m selling this channel” video’s comments.
Yeah! 😄
Yeah, i think throwing buzzwords with no deeper explanation is a telltale sign that something fishy might be going on
Path B is bankruptcy
Path A is his attempt to avoid bankruptcy
Plan C was being honest, This would require an entire reconstruction of his honesty.
@@TheExperienceYT benefit of the doubt, people are told to fear mistakes, sometimes it seems better to lie to make you seem like you didn’t make a mistake
Path B I'm F*cked
Path A I'll pay off my debt and have extra cash on the side 😎💰💰
The path I prefer is Path A
Path B his friend owns the company, path A he owns the company. Simple
Just FYI to anyone who hasn't watched the Disrupt channel lately - this guy has been let go due to what he did, and his co-founder and the Disrupt team continued without him.
LMAO
What a bozo. Glad they let him go.
@@techedbirb6663 nigga
scapegoat brother. they all wanted to sell, the internet laughed at them, so they pinned it on him
@brakvash but he owned it though this comment makes no sense how could he kick them out if he owned 100% of the company?????
If he was a TH-camr I really liked, and he simply said “I’m in a lot of dept, so if you want you can donate here”, I might’ve donated, but here I would’ve probably lost all respect by now
true. being upfront online really works (oftentimes esp. if you have dedicated fanbase already). jack acted as if it was the corporate world where lying is the best policy
and his reason was a very good one: "I bought half the channel and I'm struggling to meet payment dealdines due to high costs. Its either fire people or get help."
Exactly
He really should've done that. That whole scheme of trying to convince people without showing the full truth completely fucked him. Look at his channel now, it's fucking dead.
@@thesorrow88 .
Note to self: hide undesirable details in the middle of documentation, and not the beginning or end.
Middle of document, under multiple subsections 😂
Lmk if u ever start selling courses, I’d definitely buy yours
this is the lesson, yes yes
That's what I thought, People read the first few words then scroll to bottom read the last few words, nobody stops in the middle.
Just slide it into the terms of service right next to everyone agreeing to be tracked and monitored with everything they do, every site and app they use and every GPS location they ever go, instead---- they'll never find it there.
Disrupt was the last TH-camr I'd expect to be scamming.
Bros a clown 😂😂🤡
@@zillix7268 unfortunately 😭 💀 😂
Exactly like it’s so disappointing that he’s actually doing this.
Guess we shouldn't be surprised now if the next scammer is Coffee 😵💫
Inb4 mamamax exposed
Just FYI to anyone who hasn't watched the Disrupt channel lately - this guy has been let go due to what he did, and his co-founder and the Disrupt team continued without him. - Reposted. This channel deserves a comeback.
“This channel” doesn’t deserve anything
@@Hack_The_Planet_ the old owner had debt to pay back and tried to pull a quick one, but he is now kicked and the videos are as good as ever
good to know
@@Hack_The_Planet_ Why? The channel did nothing, this guy did
Did they actually cleared things up?
man as an accountant you gotta love when you find out juicy info at the end of financial documents cause they have to put em there ugh so good
You know what else is good? Punctuation! You should try it sometime.
@@mousermind why? i read both of your comments the same - your time was wasted
@@mousermind Nerd.
Yes indeed
@@thesorrow88 oooooo no punctuation oooooo
No earnings, no assets, conflicted team and a CEO lying to his potential investors… Yup, sounds like $10M business to me
If you know anything about business, you know full disclosure is always necessary. Numbers matter and if someone pitches 2 separate ideas and doesn't use the same formula to base a foundation or conclusion on both sides then the whole structure is fraudulent.
21th century capitalism at its finest
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@@sawyerlogon7666 🙄
@@nickyblue4866 why r u rolling your eyes
"invest" in debt = scam
Donate in debt = normal
That's the key difference
Well that and lying about where the money will go, what it will do, and saying it's an opportunity to make money
as someone who adored Disrupt's content, the unique editing, everything, I was genuinely disappointed and confused when I saw that video. I could smell it was a scam from a mile away, and realizing a genuinely awesome channel fell down such a trashy path was really... unfortunate.
Disrupt is such a unique channel, it's really disappointing to watch this unfold.
why would he even share 50% of it anyways, i guess he likes money
@@maven9323 The only thing I can think of other than that is if Jak and his co-founder had disagreements over the management of the channel so he ended up offering to buy it out fully, but yeah, it's disappointing
IKR, it was actually so good :(
@@maven9323 to be uneven
Im a huge nerd and disrupt fan, and this is disheartening to say the least. However, when he made that first video about selling his channel it struck me as odd immediately but I didn't know why.
Thank you Coffee, your hard work in exposing bad financial scams and such is valuable and you are appreciated. I hope you know that.
Same here on all accounts.. disrupt truly is a gem and there's simply nothing else like it. The production value is amazing and unique. The research is always on par... I really hope, and this is a huge stretch, but I hope this is just some sort of elaborate social experiment and he doesn't actually recieve any money? Idk because this is just so odd....seems very out of character. And wouldn't any average person be at least suspicious enough to shy away? Seems like a fast way to totally kill your channel :/ I don't understand that.
Doubly agree with you on coffeezilla as well. Totally on point.
Same.
Disrupt has now taken down both videos talking about the sell lol
I AM TOO I DIDNT KNOW THIS NOOOO
He shot himself in the foot. I unsubscribed as soon as this came about and I KNOW I’m not the only one.
If 10% can be purchased at $500,000, the studio is “worth” $5M. This is the first thing I spotted.
And the thing is there is no studio. They are a group of animators and creators across the world working together so there's no "studio" and he even says in his video that because there is no studio they are able to create content cheaper than say a big media company.
$100 = 23 shares. Totally, they have 2 500 000 shares. 250 000 shares are ready to be sold on wefounder. Goal is at $500 000 but he will take up to $1.07M.
I am deep in the story since first Jak's video about it, so I am pretty sure I am correct here.
Still not worth as much as the £10m studio our boi coffee is sitting in
I haven't dived deep into this story but as another commentor said, that's not necessarily the calculation. From what I saw here they *need* to raise $500,000 but are open to raising more. Therefore, 10% isn't necessarily $500,000. It's still a ridiculous valuation but that part isn't necessarily fraudulent.
I think the "investment" is on the TH-cam channel.
It's insane that this happened on a perfectly normal, well-respected documentary channel. I'm so used to hearing about this stuff from 'lifestyle influencers' or 'money gurus' who were clearly grifters from day 1. It's sobering to realize that anyone you trust could turn around and start trying to take advantage of you if you don't keep your guard up.
I really feel like "I am 500k in debt so this is what i want to do to pay it off" would have gone over just as well
bs everyone would tell him that's his problem nobody would help no one is helping anyone out of debt that they created. Keep dreaming.
@@OGPvPMCpeople who like content creators donate all the time . disrupt was pretty big he definitely wouldve gotten at least some spare change
My guy, people would like to donate a little amount to a struggling person, if he would've been honest, he could of had generated way more than 500k in a month just from people donating 3$
Honestly what disrupt is doing currently feels like something that a hacker/scammer in his videos would do lmao
Yeahhh it really does
maybe it's a social experiment?
Probably where he learned it from. Researched hackers and scammers so much that he became them lol.
its a tale as old as time. reminds me of a podcaster that focuses on cults and he has transformed into a pathetic cult leader.
Based
It'd be better if he was honest and told everyone that he's in financial trouble, and set up a Patreon or something instead.
Agreed, I feel like there's other intentions behind this that are not publically known.. And at this pace, I don't think we'll ever find out lol
His home living doesn’t show poor to me… those monitors don’t buy themselves lol.
@@arwlyx well no shit mr obvious lol… if he is scamming people he isn’t gonna obviously say that.
he sounds like a scammer. Sounds like hes mean to children too.
While that would be ideal, often TH-camrs fan bases are extremely cruel or narcissistic. They completely ignore or even make fun of any sort of bad thing that happens to a TH-camr but if something good happens they treat it as if they did all the hard work. I can see why he doesn’t want to open a Patreon, I think he’s just paranoid that no one will pay through patreon.
The guy probably shouldn't had make an 500,000 dollar purchase when he couldn't even afford a decent camera
Right? It looks like he used a Teddy Bear camera.
he usually does not show his face AND this low-fi 90s inspired filter fits his channels' aesthetics perfectly
@@JoeOvercoat it’s the style of his content. He has good quality. I loved his content. It’s part of his art style/editing. Check out his past videos
That’s kinda the whole “theme” of the channel. Late 90’s early 2000s
It's on purpose lmao. Do you know what an aesthetic is?
Interestingly, his offer of equity to the public is certainly a violation of securities laws.
How do?
@@frontporchprojects4181 you can’t broadly or publicly promote securities without a prospectus or an exemption. We know he doesn’t have an exemption because no exemption allows him to offer securities as he’s doing it
Which is why he's crowdfunding under the way sexier guise of a Shark Tank pitch.
The 10 Million Dollar studio joke could have never in any timeline been more perfect than it is right now, this is actually unbelievable.
It was all planned of course
@@psydunk1 the studio was a paid actor
Do you know something else than superlatives?
I don't even think Marques Brownlee's studio is worth that
@@hanskranz9897 No, this singular comment contains all I know in life
I absolutely love Disrupt and their content. It really sucks to see that they’re going down this path, it’s super ironic considering most of their videos are on scams and hacks :/
They got inspired by them
sheep
Yep, I've unsubbed now, I saw the comments on the original video and was like whatever, I'll let that settle and come back to the content, but now I've seen this video I want nothing to do with it.
Just like jake tran lmao
SILENCE NON-CHECKMARK
I found their content high quality, but really sloppily organized to the point many people watching couldn't follow along easily. This is not a loss to me, but i can see how people appreciated the channel's work
Right? I liked some of their videos but if you ignore the "high quality" aspect of the animations and transitions... a lot of stuff is pretty hectic and piled up, at least imo
There's also been some really stupid mistakes they've made like calling Java and JavaScript the same thing that makes you doubt the quality of the research they've done or how much they actually understand what they're talking about
@@_roko_ It go beyond that often. He is not an infosec expert and regularly completely misses the mark on how the hacks work.
At first i forgot who he was, and i saw all these weird videos on his channel, but scrolling down i saw that he did the one week in a simulation video, and i remembered that i loved this guy a few months ago. This is actually sad.
They have let go of the person who did that and are now still going strong
@@PilotMiaoumi No, No They Are Not.
@@PilotMiaoumi They Will Probably Never Get As Many Views As They Did With Jak.
He Was The Entire Reason Disrupt Had As Many Views As They Did.
Only If He Just Straight Out Said It. “I’m In Debt And I Need Shekels.” 😞
Damn I’m beyond paranoid of everyone after binging coffeezilla
Welcome to the desert of the real.
Come on in, the water is frigid and filled will gators!
I mean, trust is something you give while knowing you can be betrayed. If you have plans on how to deal with it it's alright, the issue is really about _blind_ trust, which is more common than we often realize.
That said, the moment a ytber or other content creator does this I'm jumping ship.
Welcome to the internet
Lots of scumbags in this world, everyone has a price and some are just too greedy.
Man that sucks to hear, I love disrupt. I was wondering how his whole plan was going to play out.
He got inspired by the scammers he covered
@Don't read profile photo brother no one cares about you who do a 6 year old trend. Go do something better with your time!
Most TH-camrs are shameless self promoting hucksters in reality.
@@hoze1235 almost certainly, he saw one too many offshore speedboat in his research 🤣
@Don't read profile photo Don't comment in the first place
a month later and i’m glad the channel is coming back without this BS
I wish Coffee would update this video in saying the Disrupt channel is back on its original path of making stellar youtube content
The weird thing is that if he went to his fanbase and told the TRUTH...I am sure fans would band together to help the guy out. There is/was no need to lie...weird society we live in..either people fear to tell the truth or we are taught that no one tells the truth unless they have too.
I would've swiped in a heartbeat if he made a Patreon.
@@hrmn4694 you are the reason why shampoo needs instructions in the back of the bottle
@@wrathcyber i agree with you and would like add to the original post, people are afraid of failure. When i was young man (i'm 54) I was always told that if i wanted to grow/become smarter/do better then i was going to have to fail. I wasn't until i was out of high school that i found out that apparently my family was the "odd man out". Their is nothing wrong with failing. The problem is when you don't fix/learn from that mistake but that isn't what people are being told. You have to win, no matter the cost. That attitude has gotten us where we are. (well not counting the laziness issue when it comes to taking the time to learn things)
Yeah, I woulda chipped in a bit to keep the channel going, I've really enjoyed his work. This whole thing makes me sad.
True!
I was so confused when I saw the video, sucks to see him going down this path...
RIP...
Literally hurt seeing that shit man, because I admired his work so much
Desperate times
Can we get a follow up video? They've posted some updates and it seems like Jak has just cut contact with the entire team of Disrupt. So they aren't able to explain why he did what he did. I'm hoping they bounce back and continue making good content free of the influence of people like Jak.
As a fellow Jack I am hereby revoking his right to our name. - WWJA
He's Jak not Jack lol
@@nnikitov57 even worse. As an Elizabeth I will proudly ally with the World Wide Jack Association
@@nnikitov57 he still comes under the jurisdiction of the WWJA
As a Ben I would also like to decline his right to change his name to Ben - WWBA
@@Twiddle_things Hey my mom’s name is Elizabeth that’s a funny coincidence.
seeing the amount of money that's already been donated is super concerning
my exact thought :/
I wouldn't say you're the _last_ person I'd expect to see here, but you certainly aren't the first.
Cool to see ya here cuestar
He is in violation of quite a few SEC rules regarding issuing equity I would imagine
Hey cue!
This whole Disrupt thing was a sucker punch in the gut. I thought that the guy that makes that type of content would be wise enough to not fall into that debt.
Most people have debt the 🇺🇸 has 138 trillion is personal debt last I checked the debt clock that never stops running up
There is no debt until you close the deal.... duh!
The "debt" is the buyout in case he decides to really buy 50% of this channel from his partner.
@@unbroken1010 You are missing the point. Debt is fine, the difference is when he made a shitty buisness decision to buy out his partner when he didn't have the money so he decided to try and slide that past his viewers. He isn't selling the company, he is trying to dig himself out of a hole by getting more debters involved
@@unbroken1010 debt is good. Only idiots pay cash. Anyone not carrying debt is either too broke to afford the debt, or new money that thinks "paying cash" makes people think they're rich. (Ball players and rappers mainly.) People who use their own money are suckers.
@@unbroken1010 A countries' debt is massively different than the debt of a person, you can't even compare the two.
Some people always find a way to make something corporate and scummy
It’s sad to see all the shady things happening within all these youtubers
Stop watching content about shady youtubers then bruh. You're polluting your own head with gossip, and rumors and that is so negative and so gross. Start focusing on yourself more than other people you'll be a lot happier trust me
It's always funny seeing TH-camrs pretend like we have that much invested in their continued operations. I've had dozens of "favorite channels" that stopped making content. The reaction is always "man, that sucks" and then two weeks later I'm watching other content and have completely forgotten.
yeah, the only real one i miss is sorrowTV
RIP fitzthistlewitz :'(
@@nejsonsvejson9861 Man, you just make me remember that channel.
@@nejsonsvejson9861 :(
@@ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 true
It's such a shame to see such a good channel like Disrupt go down this road. The sad part is, I feel like if he had just come out and been completely honest with fans of the channel and disclosed the part about being 500k in debt, people would have been willing to help.
who the fuck is 500k in personal debt? thats the same as saying "i am suddenly 1300lbs and they had to take out an exterior wall to bring a crane in to lift my fat ass out of the house"
i’m happy to say that they’ve fixed this and speculation is that jak is out of the channel
Who cares
@@NeanderthalDogma Fans of Disrupt
@@NeanderthalDogma so edgy and quirky
You are so good at this!
I don't even know who or what "Disrupt" is and I have no reason to care about them or the situation.
And yet, you made it so interesting that I was hooked from the beginning.
Not sure if that's a talent of yours or if you learned that skill, but it's working extremely well!
I'm a very happy subscriber! 😁
I’m glad Disrupt got their shit back together and are making good videos again!
I LOVE Disrupt! So sad it’s going down this way, seemed to be a scam right away!
I guess he should rename his channel now from Disrupt to Distrust
This comment is gold
Oooooo
I generally dislike your personality and ego, but the content is really high quality.
Subscribed.
Damn, I am so glad Coffeezilla grew so fast, I am here since 200k subs and that was not very long ago, he really deserves it .
It’s because of Charlie, he has given him many shoutouts
This a total "live long enough to see yourself become the villian" situation.
100%
I get the sentiment, but is that what the phrase means? I thought it meant that the world will turn you into a villain because public trust only lasts so long. Not that you turn yourself into a villain by doing something like this
Edit: I am wrong, I just looked up the harvey dent reference and context
It didn't take long
Dude this sucks. Disrupt was hands down one of my favorite channels. Some of the best tech documentaries ever made.
He made a mistake and can still recover from it, I wouldn't say this warrants a full boycott/disconnect from Disrupt but I hope Jak comes to his senses.
@@Hobby_Technology I definitely am not boycotting. And I really hope this is resolved.
I really hope he comes forwards from this and continues to create content. I'm sure that through the channel revenue he will be able to pay off his debt eventually.
Depends upon his response. If he just goes cold and and never talks of this again then I unsub. We at least deserve a good explanation or apology.
Love youre videos. Theyre short and to the point with alot of relevant info, but feels like a short documentary on a major issue. Keep it up brother!
He covered scammers too much he ended up becoming one .
I feel like I've watched this episode of Dragon's Den:
- insane valuation
- insulting equity offer
- realizing the owner actually values it less and trying to hoodwink investors
- realizing the money won't go to bettering the company but to pay off debts
- "I love the product but... I can't invest in you. I'm out!"
“I’m out!” line is iconic! 😀
Yea this is brutal, love their content, but a scams a scam, good stuff Coffee
His soothing voice seems to make me overlook the visual sight that he is sly. Lesson: always watch with sound off to read the scammer.
this is incredibly upsetting, i love(d) the Disrupt channel and i expected Jack to be much more truthful with his pitch. I will continue to watch their content because it is interesting but I will not be investing anything at this moment or possibly ever.
from what i know Jak stopped being part of the channel, it’s just his co-founder and the rest of the team now.
Jack has been removed from involvement in the channel
You 'love' something, but dont know how to write the name of it? Maybe your definition of love is different than mine
The crazy thing is; at least it makes sense in my mind, if he was upfront about being in debt & had a plan on how to use that money to pay off his debts in addition to creating the studio then maybe this wouldn’t look so bad.
Yeah, if he had straight up said “Someone who owned a lot of the channel left, I went into debt buying them out, I need some financial support to ensure the future of the channel” and set up a Patreon or something, he probably could have gotten the money without looking like an arse.
He's literally turning his channel into an unregistered security. The SEC will be on his ass in a hot second.
I’m thinking I’m the only one seeing this 😂😂😂😂
It literally says hes going to file and that's when all this becomes active
Equity crowdfunding is legal. See SEC Reg D and Reg CF
There are other folks doing equity crowdfunding with similar terms. It's a lot of scams and coke fueled delusions though. An acquaintance tried to launch his events company through one and gave his company a 500k valuation with no assets, brand recognition, or experience. Like why not just launch a GoFundMe?
@@xxxlilxjayxxx The problem is how is he legally distributing the channel equity to the ppl buying those factional shares? Channels are being sold outright but if you see TH-cam's Tos, they never explicitly stated you can buy or sell it. They can take or close down your channel at anytime they want.
poor dude, prolly scared of failure and didnt wanna say the truth. i feel it
I mean, you could never guess that a GOOD TH-cam channel would be a scam.
Call the SEC, this man (disrupt guy) is not compliant of the rules and regulations applicable to the issuance of equity investments!
nah, the financial document puts him in the clear. that's the catch. and its in the literature. this is why legit investors always read the fine print. not excusing his behavior, just pointing out he has covered his ass legally.
@@arcanealchemist3190 I'm pretty sure they're referring to the bogus 10 million evaluation.
Or call the SEC over coffeezilla giving financial advice.
@@Door_Into_Summer all valuations are made up. nothing illegal about it
@@knightofmalta5792 They don't care unless you have a financial stake in what you're pitching.
This is such a heartbreaking thing to see since I LOVE this man's documentaries. But boy, I gotta accept that creatively amazing people are capable of this
@DONT READ MY PROFILE PICTURE Don't comment
@@polygontower his comment got deleted 😂
its like kanye west
@@ballsmaster6937 I guess in a way it is, if you're a fan of Kanye. I don't think this is as big of a deal and "scam" as its,being played up to being in my opinion tho. I think it's some misunderstanding and maybe a bit misrepresented but I don't believe it's a flat out scheme to become rich. I truly think he didn't represent the situation well and is trying to keep the channel moving forward. Just how I feel about it. I don't believe Disrupt is trying to scam anyone
never thought that disrupt of all channels would have this kind of drama
I'm sub to him, when that came out, just 2-3 minutes in and I'm out.. Cause it feels weird and I'm glad I'm not the only one..
Witnessing this happen to a good channel is fucking painful to watch.
The salient question is "what is Disrupt's annual ad revenue?"
I couldn't get to Disrupt's financials, so here's a best-case look at revenue.
Fifty videos have been posted since July 20, 2021. These videos got 35 million views (I counted) and averaged 702,000 views per video. Twelve videos got a million or more views.
If we assume Disrupt received the top $8-per-1,000 views ad rate (and a much lower rate might have been received) the channel grossed $281,000 over the past 52 weeks.
This means Disrupt values itself at 38-times its ad revenue, which is beyond absurd. Sponsorships bring in additional money but couldn't possibly justify the asking price.
THIS IS CLEARLY A SCAM.
You never heard of social blade?
@@eskaymotorsports600 does social blade calculate the revenue? Maybe that explains the lack of likes lol.
Just checked social blade, says per month he's earning between €408 - €6.5K and yearly between €4.9K - €78.3K
Even without the debt stuff this seems like a scam
If I remember correctly, the financial document said it was ~100k yearly, on the lower end.
He has a a company, Disrupt. It's like Netflix
Jordan made a video about this whole thing confirming everything you said
To anyone curious, they have completely cut ties with this person, their channel still makes good content
Too bad most people just shit on the channel now. Coffee should've made an update video on the situation but now thanks to uneducated people who didn't even see how long ago this is theh just mock the channel.
“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” sometimes life really do imitate art lol
Damn bro 2 of the best comments possible combined: 66 likes lol i expect more
It's true tho sad but true....
The other way around actually.
He totally got over-confident, from his own videos, that he could outsmart his own community. Too bad he forgot this is the internet lol
@@ratecyan ah, one of the weaker specimens
an old classic, " if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is."
is…..not
Dude this is literally one of my favorite channels. I feel like if he was just honest and tried to do a go fund me or something people would have his back. Kinda shitty to sneak it in like that ☹️
Probably would get more money honestly
Yeah honestly he would have probably got a lot of support
@@JohnDoe-ws4iu same, alot of misrepresentation of facts in their videos as well. I prefer channels that focus more on facts than visuals.
He's in debt? Well that explains the seemingly arbitrary deadline he set on reaching the goal to path A or B 😅 I knew something was off when he brought up a self imposed deadline.
Not just in debt, he's already defaulted on the debt.
I hear the deadline is September, so he's hoping to do it within 6 weeks or so
My thoughts as well!
Please do an update video on this, I think that it is really needed because the other co owner now has majority stake and has dealt with the fallout of what the other guy Jak as done.
now its absolutely insane that these "creative differences" were really Jak having a religious revelation and wanting the channel to transition to christian content glorifying christ, what the fuck
Based
Very based indeed
@@butcher24yrold well that's good and all but the dude had that epiphany after a drug trip in peru and meeting a cactus demon on said bad trip
@@luthfihar3211 okay.... and? You sound more judgy than the priest in confessional.
@@butcher24yrold Yep, cults are sooo based.
The worst part is, this channel was actually pretty solid..
and if it happens to go belly up we lose a set of really great content creators in the process...
It’s still pretty good. Watched a few of the new vids without him and it holds up.
@@HaitiSpaceAgency ???
Couldn't imagine "investing" in a TH-cam channel. I don't mind donating a small amount depending who it is but if it's an investment I would rather put that money into an actual company that'll be around long term.
WHY does it seem like most people are always trying to SCAM others! I so appreciate this channel even more. Please don't change or stop!
Ironically it feels like if he'd just been honest to his fans about paying a debt to own his own channel, people would've gone ahead and given him the money anyway. If he'd framed it like "Hey, we're in debt and need to pay it back so we have 100% ownership of this channel you like" and then given some benefits to helping him, it would've been fine.
i wonder how much he would have raised if he was just honest with his fans and said he needed 500k to pay off debts
or concentrate in making videos.
Probably like $50
Nothing because people are selfish
He would still lie so nothing
Nah they would have raised it there’s loads of normies who would have contributed to keep the channel alive
I just think if he was honest no one would have been pissed at him.
Bro that set up is clean! definetly subbing you are one of the most unique youtubers ive seen in a very long time
Lol the background is a green screen dude 🤦🏼♂️😂
@@markus7166 😂 I noticed after like the second vid, he has some really good lighting
Interesting story! Truth of matter is there are always 2-sides to every story (as we all know). That being said, the problem is once lawyers get involved (and the courts) things get ugly and EXPENSIVE very fast. Then, everything written in future TH-cam videos on discord servers could potentially be used as further evidence in future lawsuits...it just gets very ugly very fast. Bottom line, get everything in WRITING when you are even thinking of starting any type of business. Especially, when you have partners (even if silent ones). No one wins when courts and lawyers get involved....
Moral of the story: tell the truth kids. Especially when dealing with other peoples money, cause the truth always comes out.
I disagree on the always part. But if it comes out and you lied, you likely face severe consequences.
There's something really weird I've noticed about disrupts videos, there's always a ton of comments that have nothing to do with the video subject but simply say things like "The production quality of this channel is amazing, I can't believe this is free!"
This attempt to "sell" the channel makes me think that a big amount of comments are fake profiles made to try to falsely inflate the channels perception as something more valuable than what it is, something worth buying
Thank you! I had actually already stopped watching their videos cause stuff like that felt off to me as well so I was surprised no one else really noticed this
That or it’s just simps. Lots of channels have these kind of comments. Plus he doesn’t delete bot comments.
@@CJ-ht4rf Why would you use that as a metric to stop watching content? I’ll stop watching content because it’s shit, not because of the comments.
I mean you could say that to other channels' videos as well like Lemmino, its not that weird with channels that puts a lot of effort in the videos
Nah the production quality is simply outstanding. They're right
Spend so much time studying scammers he became one. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain...
"Call it a crazy hunch." Which character is this reminding me of?!?
Jak: “these scammers make it look so easy”
Scammers: “those who can’t do, teach”
LOL! The first thing I thought after his opening pitch was "this guy owes money to a business partner". These scammers are so transparent!
Well honestly it doesn't matter why he wants the money, the problem is its a ridiculous valuation
The worst bit is that you get payed less based on his crazy valuation
At current levels it would take over 444 years to recoup any investment ($100 would pay $0.225/year). And your ownership would be further diluted if he raises more funding. That is NOT an investment, it’s a donation. This guy clearly knows nothing about business or finance if he honestly thought this was a good idea to try.
that 444 number is oddly familiar lmao
pink sauce controversy
@@jerecakes1 what’s pink sauce?
Why invest in one channel when you can own a piece of all the TH-cam channels in existence by investing in Google?
I gave Susan Wojcicki $10 I basically own MrBeast
Because google does not pay dividends. Obviously investing in a youtube channel with that bogus of a valuation is a terrible move, but in a more realistic scenario that would be the argument.
I always wonder when people say "my channel" and "what my channel is worth" ,if TH-cam shuts down,what is it you actually own?
if the USA suddenly disappeared overnight, what's the worth of USD?
wow i never wouldve thought that a channel this great channel went down this path, i remember stumbling across his channel with the ILOVEYOU virus explanation and became hooked on these stories
The fact that it is via a crowdfunding platform should be a red flag all on its own. When you're talking percentages and shares, I feel like it has to be a lot more organized, a lot more specific & personalized...and Transparent! Where is the paperwork...and lawyers?! When our bank went public on the stock market, they sold shares and my parents bought some...they have so much paperwork, telling them everything they would possibly need to know. What exactly they bought, how much they bought, what they can do with it, etc. I know this is a TH-cam channel and not Wall Street, but when you use the same terminology, I expect the same standards.
Yeah I was really disappointed when a crowd funding platform was mentioned
He is promising a percent of net profits in a company where he would still be majority shareholder. He decides about costs. So essentially he decides how much money people will get through their dividend. High probability he will inflate his own costs so there is little left to share with his investors.
Didnt he promise ad revenue?
Best take.
Dang that sucks, he's got fans so he really should have just tried being honest about the debt! I bet he could've raised a lot that way.
I had a similar thing with a youtuber I liked watching ... he suddenly talked about weird stuff with money ... So I left his channel.
I unsubbed. His content goes deep into topics that aren't the easiest to research by just anyone. That means as a viewer you're trusting that his research is above board. The trust is the lynch pin, IMHO, and he's just demonstrated his ability to lay out the FACTS is SKETCHY at best.
I just watch the videos because they are entertaining, I don’t overanalyse it because it’s TH-cam.
@@fidelio9301 well maybe you should m8
@@noonyabeezniss4911 I don’t need to “m8”. I wouldn’t ever invest anyway. If you are dumb enough to not see it’s a scam it’s your problem. He’s a obviously a scumbag. It’s been obvious from day one. Why would you believe anything anyone online says? You don’t know him, he could be anyone in real life. The videos are entertaining, but I don’t need my creators to be good people, just to create good content. Everyone needs to do their due diligence about these things, people put too much stock and emotion in their “favourite” creators. Bye now.
Unsubbed from Coffee or Disrupt?
@@noonyabeezniss4911 what’s so wrong with that?
Humanity is down bad man. I know there was always bad shit going on but now it’s even more easy to witness this shit go on
Well it's true when they say you really don't know who these people are. Hopefully he will confess, apologize and redeem himself.
At the end of the video, Coffee says the cofounder "by all accounts, seems like a pretty nice guy".
Well, this channel taught me that is what all scammers seem like.
Going back to this video after learning what really happened just shows that anyone can con money out of anyone
Honestly, i always loved distrupt. Its those channels that its uniquely amazing from anything around. amazing storytelling, stories easy to indulge in, fun to binge watch, etc... So seeing this exact channel go this absolute wrong path. its absolutely dissapointing. Pretty saddening actually...