[100] How To Spot A Fake Benchmade 940 Knife - 2020
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Go with the counterfeit!! For 15 bucks!! Wow!!
A dead giveaway would be the blade is centred from the factory on the fake
I ordered a 40 dollar fake balisong to compare to my original one and holy hell that shit is close as fuck, the only difference I can find is the sharpness out of the box and the smoothness out of the box, the smoothness solved by itself by just flicking it for a few hours I'm blown away
are you getting ripped off if your only paying $15? i would say your getting at least a $15 knife, might even be a bargan
I think another problem is people buying fakes and them selling them as real. You can say “you’re not a real knife guy if you can’t spot the fake”, but these fakes are looking solid nowadays.
Edit: when I say selling them as real, I mean selling them for $100+ even though they paid $15 for it lol.
@@antwrecks and im talking about paying $15 for fake.
Don't support the fakers. FTGs. You can buy other knives that are good quality and not expensive without supporting the cvnts that rip-off legitimate companies with fake products.
@@glennmuir5617 i agree but that doesnt change what i said
Excuse me but just aluminum scales run $25 for 535. $15? Na son na
Thank you for the Awesome video. You saved me from a fake buy on eBay. The difference was in the copper back spacer just like you showed. It was not purple. The seller originally said he found the knife in a storage facility he won.Later he said he sells lots of these knives. I asked just how many Benchmade 940 knives he has found in storage sheds. He refunded me. Thanks again sir.
Glad to have helped, I love real Benchmade knives, and hate seeing people get ripped off.
Note also that the off-color back spacer is noticeably thinner on the fake than on the real McCoy...
You didn't even mention probably the most easily noted difference. The pin the the blade swivels on is recessed on each side of the real and it sits flush with the handle on the fake.
The Axis lock on the counterfiet screamed out at me.
Cool video thanks.
Excellent information.I’m buying tomorrow from my local shop.
The fakes come with a box and all the stickers. I’ve seen fakes with a better purple backspacer. They really do make a great fake now a days. They sell for around $30-$40 with shipping. Honestly it’s a good buy. You can actually use the knife without worrying about breaking it.
The clip on the fake has much deeper, wider stamped lettering and a shiny finish.
Thank You
Pro tip - don’t buy on eBay, Facebook or Instagram. Buy from reputable dealers or from trusted sellers with lots of positive feedback on BladeForums. Then you won’t have to worry about fake trash.
Really? You buy "wish" knife, than go to a dealer and buy the real deal. You swap it out and return the fake to the dealer you bought the real one from! Then the unsuspecting dealer sells the knife to a unsuspecting customer. The ONLY way to be 100% certain your knife is the REAL deal is to buy directly from the factory!
is Knife center good?
@@JMRabil675 Yes very good.
Thanks
Thanks for the video as I'm looking to buy my first benchmade knife. It's definitely one of my concerns
Buy it directly from benchmade and u won't have any concerns
I'm in the exact same boat , looking to buy my first benchmade, due to costs I wanted to do research so I make the correct choice. Any tips ill take em.
Stay away from the secondhand markets, 💥 problem solved.
@@pattol666 If you want to reduce your odds of getting a fake, don't buy from eBay, Amazon, or other seller's marketplaces. Buy from a legit dealer or as Redlock said above buy direst from Benchmade. Any deal that looks too good to be true probably is.
Buy directly or search on their website were their authorized dealers are. I purchased both my benchmades at the authorized local gun store.
They got even better now. The box has improved with the same foam. The back spacer is perfectly purple, sharp AF out of the box.
But the most notable difference is that the original here Down Under is $AUD 360, while the clone is $AUD 36. I did not want to waste my money buying a fake Osborne, so I bought four, two 940 and two 945. BM is definitely overpriced, so F... them.
I bought a bugout online and it was a fake one thing to watch for is the box foam and another thing is the axis lock torx screw was size t-9 and a real Benchmade bugout torx screw is a size t-10! Great video brother!
Thank you so much i bought a benchmade McHenry& Williams 710 at a pawn shop for 25 the worker ask me if I know if it was a good knife with a spider co and of course I didn’t tell him was bench mades are and I bought thinking it was fake but I compared the logo with a fake bench made comb butterfly knife but I’m still going to have some one who knows more about benchmades because I’m only (16 ) and tired of cheep knives
Look very closely at the location of the ®️ placement next to the logo on the fake. The ®️ is placed lower off the Butterly’s wing. When you compare the two logos it becomes apparent
Good eye the one on my fake is bigger lol but man they are identical in every other way give me twenty real and one fake and I’d have a very hard time finding the fake
The S30V font is different too.
It seems to me, strange to say (and I have a bunch of real Benchmades), in many ways, the fakes may be the much better deal!
I don't know how to tell what kind of steel fakes use. Could bend or break easily.
Is it true Benchmade QA has fallen so much that fakes actually are on par with the original?
@@lystic9392real ones can bend or break too
Can you try to put the clip from the real one on the fake one? I have a feeling I got duped and they way I was able to figure it out is that the screws are wider on the fake, therefore a factory clip wouldn’t fit.
7:44 The clone will usually have a different thread pattern.
@@markbush6918 oh yeah I figured that out the hard way. stuck to knifeswap on reddit after this one
Where did you buy the fake knife
I got a very scarry fake it came with the box and the right color but the backspacer was bad the action was nice but i sent it back due too quality control bit now i know it was fake and the listing has been taken down on amazon
Edit: seems like you're right. I had to look very closely under a bright light. My 940BK does have the grind lines, albeit it's very faint.
Original comment:
I don't think you can see the grind lines on a real black coated one. I have one from bladehq (pretty sure they're not selling fakes) and I don't see any grind lines on my black coated 940. My base model 940 does have the grind lines like yours, however.
+1 to that, they are very faint, thanks for the comment. Anything we can do to get the word out and help people identify fakes is a good thing.
I have a 940 black coated too, and at first I didn’t think the grind lines were there. However, after shining a very bright light and looking for a good 30 seconds, I could see them. They are extremely faint though, like very very faint and i would imagine they’d wear off very easily with a few months wear and tear.
I was going to say the same thing, but yeah it's there... you just need a super bright light. I bought it on amazon and I believe I have a genuine benchmade. Also the backspacer on the fake is smaller
thanks for this, i just bought a fake one for 30 bucks. good enough
Does anyone know what kind of black finish the Chinese clones are using? I have several different clones and some look very close with a flat black finish, but the 940 Osborne clone I have is actually a shiny black finish. They have to cut costs somewhere so we know the steel is one place and I figure the blade finish is another.
It is just black spray paint on the clones. The clips are done the same way. Benchmade clips have a more uneven, thinner process, leaving more scratch markes. Presenter missed that in the video.
I have 2, 940’s. One is 20 plus yes old and the other is 8 years old. Both have different shades of green?
Yea that doesn’t mean you have a fake. Check the backspacer it should be a vivid purple. Also if you have the right boxes for both and got them from a legitimate place you’re probably fine.
Yep. I’ve owned over 20 BM’s and 5-940’s and know them well. Color and logos change. Their QC has really improved but just BM being sloppy is going to cause knives to look different. I just bought a 417 Fact in a Cutlery Shop marked down to $148. It must have been there 2 years cause it’s 467 out of 1200. First production and even Prototype (I have a 484) aren’t worth more money. It’s a marketing thing. Real big BM collectors like on their forums don’t want writing on the blade. Plus, I’d rather a later knife then early one in case some kinks had to be worked out.
you can see the omega spring on the real one fits better than the fake
What if the purple titanium looks right but the styrofoam custom fit insert is not in the box?
I bought mine from the Amazon Warehouse store.
Email me pics at sweetknives2020@gmail.com and I’ll let you know
To me there is a big difference in the quality of the Benchmade name on the clip. The fake looks like it is a simple stamp. The real one is so sharp that it looks like it is possibly milled into the clip. On the blade marking I see a difference in the thickness and sharpness of the lettering and also compare the ‘9’ in the 940. On the real one the tail on the 9 sweeps over farther to the left than the fake and looks ‘better’ to my eye.
Thank you sir! Outstanding video. I’m glad to see that my 940 is legit!
I wish I could say the same for benchmade freek. I purchased a fake on eBay. Through some research, I learned another way to tell is look for the little R with the circle (copyright symbol) on the bottom right of the butterfly on the blade. Your fake has the symbol, however, you can see that they made it way too big. If any benchmade does not have the copyright symbol, it’s a guaranteed fake (from my understanding). A true benchmade has the Copyright symbol and it is extremely small. If you can see it with the naked eye, it’s certainly a fake.
Fakes or clones tick me off so bad. Even "homage" classic cars....just sad that people want to even keep them around or even seek them out. Many inexpensive knives are great, but if I want a classic I'll buy it when I can pay. Besides, the original company deserves the money, they cane out with it. I may be naive, but I hope pride and honor make a comeback.
Agree, the real deal is the only way to go.
Well what created this market for these high quality fakes is the insane markup of Benchmade Knives the past 5 or so years. The Claymore is listed at $260, and it isn’t worth anything close to that really. But a fake that looks and feels pretty much the exact same for $36? I’ll go for the “fake” any day. Benchmade is shooting themselves in the foot with these ridiculously high prices.
Besides, the fact that a fake is so hard to tell the difference between that and the “real” thing really speaks volumes for the crap quality of the real one.
I just got a fake Claymore from online and I love it! It is pretty much the same damn knife but at a reasonable price.
It depends where you bought it from and when.
Alot of the things you brought up here do no exist on some of the fakes. I've got the originals and I've got the fakes of all my BM knives. The fake 940s we've ordered (satin and black coated) both have grind line. Theyve fixed the purple coloring/logo variations etc. Most of them come with a pretty good copy of the box.
The actions on the fakes are still not as good. The axis spring has a heavier pull. The soft black bag with fakes is way too big for the knife and there's no foam insert in the box.
the axis lock looks different, the middle screw hole looks smaller on the fake. and darker.
I could tell it was the first one by the way it sounded when you opened it...
FYI... If you send a fake back to Benchmade to be sharpened, etc. They will not return the knife to you... I have a 940-1 S90-V that I now think is a fake...
In the 945 Mini-Osborne, there are no lines on the machined blade. Do not know if it is that they (Benchmade) changed the process or it it is the steel S30V type, but mo lines. Buy from reputed dealers, that is probably the best advice I can give.
Agree, buy from dealers you know and trust.
But is it worth it?
Can anyone shed some light on some differences between real and fake 940-2 (G10) variations besides price and legitimacy of the vendor? I find tons of info on the aluminum scale and the carbon fiber versions (940 and 940-1 respectively) but nothing on the G10. I haven't even seen any fakes on dhgate or aliexpress or wish to try to get an idea. Just the first two models.
I’m pretty sure there are 940-2 fakes. BM’s colors, logos etc can change and be legit. It’s very hard to point to one obvious issue. The people doing fakes must update them too. You don’t want to hear it but by trying to save $20 or $30?on EBay or even Amazon, you are taking too much of a risk on a pricey knife.
You missed a few thing but caught most of it
The fakes come with the right boxes and all the other stuff in them including that white sticker
I’ve owned about 20 BM’s and am certain I can tell a fake by feel, look and sound the knives make. Colors change, I have a lighter green one that is a medium green, it’s about 6-7 years old. I have a second one with DLC blade that is a much darker, brighter green, it only a couple years old. The logos are totally different too. The store I bought them from does not accept returns. I’ve had about 5-940’s and know them well. I have a green G10 REI 940 too. All are 100% real. The best fake is the 940-1 carbon fiber. REI accepts returns on anything and I guarantee plenty of 940-1’s have been bought and fakes returned. An REI store could have 10 940-1 fakes and have no clue. The 940-1 and the ZT 0456 are supposed to be the best fakes and 2 knives I’d avoid.
You make some good points, people need to be careful buying at stores as their may be fakes that people returned. :(
Trouble is it is too late once bought, the sure way to tell is the price, I have seen this knife on internet for $80?
I have two reals and one fake and it feels and looks just like my other bench made the only difference is the logo is sightly off centered from the blade line and doesn’t have grind marks near the flipper while my real one does but if you gave me it I wouldn’t even know it’s a fake from the box to the knife I’d think he’ll this is a nice knife lol
If I pay $50-$100 for Fake rather than $300-$400 and it’s such a great quality??? Oh I have them and I can honestly say the fake is a great knife and the price difference doesn’t justify getting the real one at all . Not even close
I have an excellent fake 940-1 and an excellent real one. Very difficult to tell the difference, but the fake I bought on Dhgate for $45 and real one from a reputable dealer for $395. Boxes are a dead give away, but on its own, it would be hard to spot the fake.
Getting green clone do they rust?
Anything made of steel can rust.
The fakes often come with a reasonably well made fake box, but all the fake boxes I've seen lack the manufacture date and all the real ones have the date. However, knifes sent to Benchmade will be returned with a more generic box, so, don't send Benchmade your original box for warranty or maintenance. Counterfeit products will vary in details and quality, depending on production runs. For example, the older counterfeit 940-1 was slightly off with the carbon fiber, but has standoffs that were far too dark; the newer counterfeit 940-1 production corrected the standoff color. As far as smoothness, that varies with the real and counterfeit knives and some fakes I've handled are smoother operating than the original. The grippy chalky texture on the original 940 will become smoother with usage, so used 940s will appear different.
The 940-1 and ZT 0456 are two of the best fakes. I’ve never bought one or seen one in person but do a ton of knife research. You hit the nail on the head. It’s hard to pinpoint one big issue cause the fakes can be updated. Also, the real companies have legit changes like color/logos etc. Best bet is not to try and save $25 and buy from legit dealer
Also, the Spyderco fakes have the barcodes on box and use Spydercos date system.
good, it lets us pleabs enjoy what we couldn't so naner naner banana
If you pay retail for a knife from any place that isn’t authorized, its on you. If you spend 20 on a knock off, you didnt get ripped off.
Spending 150-200 on a pocket knife should get people’s brains working…like “hey, I need to be sure im getting something legit cause thats a lot of money”
Who spends that kind of cash and doesn’t want to go to cabelas or sportsmans to buy it? Every real benchmade I have ever had came from going to a reputable retailer
I got a 940 for $150 on EBay. Came with the box and everything and I don’t know if it’s real or not. I don’t have any other benchmade knives, but I have a few microtechs and for some reason I think mine is fake. I wish they had serial numbers on the knives
sadly the for sure check would be to send it to benchmade for sharpening. if its fake they tell you and they keep it. my recommendation would be to look at the person you bought it from. if they have more benchmade 940's and are not a knife dealer then its probably a fake. if its just some guy that has other random stuff or random knifes it was probably real. plus you can see what there feedback is. if they have sold others and they were fake he will have a lower percent with negative reviews. last would be to go to a place like REI or cabelas and look at one that is there, see if it has differences.
@@LegBuilder thanks for the input they have other bench made but they also have other products thousands of feedback and it’s 100% positive
Do they sharpen for free?
The lines in the blade are from the grinding wheels grit.
I think he's talking about the lines on the grind not the ones on the blades edge
@@Cowboy96 Oh! Yeah I think you are right after rewatching it.
I bought a fake and the box even had the sticker on the outside and the axis lock sticker inside so Beware. But the box on the fakes don’t usually have the foam insert. It’s usually just the knife in the bag.
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Thanks China ! This knife is not fake : it's a well made copy.
i’d rather support a free country
Its made by a kid doing it against his will...
@@TheartofboxingMEX nah
I'm looking at an Osbourne on eBay, which has both the logo and the word "Osbourne" in the boomerange-shape LOWER DOWN ON THE BLADE than the one(s) you depict. Instead of being printed across the ridge at the top of the grind, they are printed entirely on the flat of the grind. This one appears to have fancy carbon-fiber scales (which would make it an expensive version), which the seller never mentions, and comes without a box. The seller wants $150 for it. Anybody think this might be a fake?
Definitely be careful buying on eBay.
Mine doesn’t have a model number under the butterfly and it’s a Osborn
There are variations, so who knows. You should be able to tell if its legit.
wonder what materials are being used? hardness test? I mean id give 15bucks for a d2 steel knife.
Definitely not recommended
They are selling fake 940-1 on eBay for $150, a complete ripoff. The real one is around $270. The sad part is none of the scammers got any negative reviews. The buyers probably thought they got a bargain.
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Thanks
The clones perform very well also
yes they do! but the steel wont hold up over time as well.
@@Sweetknives should hold up as well as any other knife made before (super steels) were a thing. I have my grandfathers knife that was made from some unknown carbon steel, its soft steel for sure but that knife is 60 years old lol it seems on most knives especially folders the blade is the last component to go. Unless you take it to bench grinder after each use.
@@wis1024 the interesting thing is that those old carbon steels your Grandpa used all the time are in some ways better than many of the new steels. It’s like the saying goes, they don’t make em like they used to. Only thing I would say is they do have some ultra new awesome steels that are better and don’t rust. So try them out see what works best.
Its not a crap steel but its not s30v. Sharpens like 440c
I just assume if a benchmade comes out of the box sharp, it’s a fake.
I wish the fake was the same as the real, the fakes with the black finish are Alot harder to spot then the fake satins. If u seen one of the fake satins blade u can tell almost immediately something is strange
Love my fake knives, I let people know, I loose them once a quarter and buy another
The clip hard to tell? Was the most obvious
Purple backspacer is real one
got a clone for $30 off ebay just the other day, its the CF one has a box and bag but the box doesn't have a date on it and it says its s90V steel lol its not but has a good edge on it. i figured for $30 i could use it as a beater knife my real BM i have the 551 that was $120
My fake has the purple on the back and looks real, I’m scared because I want a real one and can’t tell
Just went to the store to try to but the real deal but they didn't have 9400 I almost got the mediator instead but now I'll wait spend that much money I want what I want
I hear you, definitely get what you want.
The 9 on the logo is different
It really is different. The whole 940 section is different. The clone is uniform and evenly spaced while the original looks like someone who eats crayons and sniffs markers etched it. lol
Th I s are sold on wish
It was easy to spot. Especially with the real one to compare it to. It took me one glance to notice which one was fake
Older boxes are different
Correct boxes have fine, black to silvery diagonal lines across the blue parts of the box, which continue across the top "BENCHMADE KNIFE COMPANY" silver label on top of the box. Some fakes used to lack one, the other or both, though without much doubt, some fakers may have fixed that by now.
These fakes may be very close to the originals in most ways, but if design, development, quality control and a building a reputation for the highest quality weren't valuable IP, why don't the fakers design and market their own? Let me answer that, because those factors are very valuable, and the fakers aren't capable of it. The fakers are CROOKS.
It's almost like you're paying $150 for a name...😁
Hell I want a fake where can I find it
Nah, you really dont want a fake. Trust me.
Lol why does the fake one look better?
Sad.
How to spot a fake Osborne, I look in the mirror. . .
Spotting a fake is easy. The price is 80% lower and the quality is 10% lower.
But you ain't getting S30V.
The only problem with “fake” knives is what the counterfeiters charge for them.
I bought 3 fake benchmade 535’s for $60 from wish and I’m still on the first one two years later.
If you spend benchmade prices for a @ knife then you got ripped off, but if you’re spending 20-30$ then you’re telling benchmade and their 400% markups to kick rocks and you got a damn good deal for a good looking, functional and reliable knife plus, If you’re unsure about the blade quality you can buy two or three extras for still a fraction of what if costs from benchmade.
I prefer the original stuff, I dont trust a lot of the crap steel coming from China.... Both blade steels and handle materials... I will say this, they have gotten a lot better over the years.
Im sorry, I don't subscribe to supporting communist to save a buck. I use to buy car parts not realizing the trash these thieves were pedaling when the car kept breaking down.
@@firebir11 more comfortable paying a 400% markup? That’s ok, to each his own.
@@HeebieKikeberger1025 My friend ,every man has a right to make a profit...its up to you what you're willing to pay.
Just bought a 940 clone off Wish, I'm a machinist with reach of a Stat Gun. I'll edit this post when I get it.
Sounds good, let us know what you figure out.
Well, any updates?
@@mrwendell4564 That's what I'm wondering. Also need to find out what a stat gun is.
Stop the "hard to tell", try "exact match" is more like it. Heck, a simple blade test might make this video better. For $15 for the fake, it seems like a great deal. You don't make enough of a case to make this a concern. Basically, a Benchmade 940 is overpriced.
I'm 100% certain my 940-1 is the real deal. Bought it factory direct from Benchmade, paid full price but there's no doubt about if it's genuine or not.
How could such a great clone be manufactured for only $15.00?
Shows the shocking mark up lol...if they made a D2 version for 50$ ..I'd bet most guys would want the real thing ..I own both and I couldn't afford it in super steel for long time but the d2 or 8 mov is fine for 30$ knife
Easy...political prison labor and child sweatshops.
@@sleigh4019 I have d2 version of clone,its great :) BM 940 is great knife but is overprice...and its 30$ on Ali...
Why are you guys trying to identify a fake? If you buy a Benchmade for $15, guess what Einstein, it's fake! End of video.
Because people are selling the fakes as real. You're not to bright are you , Einstein ....
Buy for $15, sell to friends for $100? 🤔
"friend" 😂👍
Buy real one at REI, buy fake one, return fake one and keep real one. If I was young with no money, I would do that.
@@mrwendell4564 What is How to lose friends Alex?
the black one s fake