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58:46: Without spoiling anything, yes, your dialogue options can have both positive and negative effects, usually by providing modifiers to a skill check. It's usually not a simple "this person will like you more/less from now on", and more like, if you need to impress someone, having said something boastful earlier might give you a positive modifier, and having done something that made you look weak might give you a negative. However, you generally shouldn't be afraid of saying "unusual" things. People tend to give you the benefit of the doubt because you're a cop, and the game generally rolls with it and doesn't punish you for being curious
Don't worry about not making progress. You are obtaining information, which is a very important thing in a murder investigation. The game allows for many playstyles
Agreed. I find it really annoying when some streamers act conceited about not understanding things instead of just making an effort to understand like a normal curious person.
Love the gameplay! Don't worry about taking your time, it's what the game's all about. There's no one way to play it, every playthrough is valid. :) Then, more of a technical hint (way down, just in case): In your "Skills" menu, every skill (Logic, Encyclopedia, etc.) has a menu in the top right - "Overview/Info" - where you can click on "Info" to get detailed information about every skill. I found it helpful in understanding what a certain skill does (Like, what the hell is "Savoir faire" or "Esprit de corps" :D). Only mentioning it because I didn't even realize that was a menu until I watched someone else play it. 🙈
Exploring dialogue options is the perfect way to experience the richness of Disco Elysium's writing. There is such a wealth of amazingly worded content to be found in the dialogue trees. Please don't rush, let your curiosity lead you to the weird and wonderful. 👍 P.S.: I know how it feels to read text out loud and not remember the details of what I read afterwards. Doing it on camera is probably even worse.
I appreciate the dictionary usage. Even as a native english speaker, there were quite a few words that I didn't know, and I was too lazy to look them up lol. Take your sweet time with this game, I'm sure many of us are looking forward to a long playthrough 😃
"Apricot Suzerainty" is basically same as saying "oh you're from that banana republic". It is quite offensive, but luckily the street vendor didn't care about your comment.
Saw your first part of this game and had to click this one when saw it. Disco Elysium is a great game. I wish I used a dictionary on my first playthrough. 😁 Greetings from Finland. Btw, they use finnish words in this game too. Like pipo, which is like a beanie. 😉
I love this game, without going into much detail the descriptions are right, succeeding a check does not mean you have to follow its instructions or that it will lead your character optimally. Maybe that is why I love Volition.
I'm pretty sure half the players (even from English speaking countries) don't understand many of the words used in this game and just rely on context to understand their general meaning, so I'm all for the dictionary usage if it doesn't bother you, I already learned a few words from this video that I kind of just went over in my own playthrough.
Regarding the language barrier: There's an option to set a second language and then you can switch the text seamlessly between let's say English and French by pressing a hotkey.
I really appreciate your style of being thorough and taking the time to understand words you don’t know. There’s just so much writing in the game it would be a shame to breeze past it and just laser focus on the case. Lots to explore and learn as an amnesiac. 😅
49:18 Yeah you can. I had a friend who lost his memory after drinking and get into hospital because of it. The memory returned to him over a week or something.
@@LukaelPlays His case was not so severe as main character in DE - he remembered what money is and what country we living in but he could not recognize people or events that happened to him.
Hey man, I love you stopping and checking the dictionary, so don’t worry about it. I’m sure I don’t have a precise definition for every single word in the game, and it’s in my language 😂 Hell, if I was playing this in French I’d have to dip into that dictionary every 3rd word… if I was *lucky* 🤣 Check it as much as you want. I’m sure I’ll learn something I didn’t know from it myself. I’m glad you enjoy this. It really is a huge challenge in a second language no matter how fluent you might be. I seriously respect you taking it on. Something to bear in mind though: the language they choose to employ is at times, I firmly believe, intended to confuse and confound the player. You are playing a character who’s out of his depth, without any knowledge of the world, surrounded by people who talk as if they simply take it for granted that he would have a certain level of knowledge already instilled in him, exactly as you described in your intro when explaining how some of it went over your head. I believe the language is supposed to leave you scratching your head a little bit so you can experience it somewhat as the character is experiencing the world. Sometimes you might wonder if you are role-playing the character or if the character is role-playing you 😉 😂
Making progress in this game is just talking to people and achieving whatever goals you set for yourself (prioritizing quests you like), no rush just do whatever feels right.
Enjoying this playthrough so far! One piece of non-spoilery advice I would give is that while your choices in this game do matter, if you're curious to see where a certain dialogue path would lead but you're like 50/50 between picking it or backing out, you should go for it. I'm not saying you should go around saying yes to everything but if you're not sure what to do you can follow your curiosity and trust that the game will take you somewhere interesting.
I totally support your decision to keep dictionary open, this game is indeed very text-heavy and uses very advanced language from time to time. Actually, I think there is an option to switch between two different languages by pressing L (? might want to check that in settings). I myself, not being native English speaker, sometimes used that while playing to see what characters are saying in my native language. So maybe you can use it to switch between English and French, if reading French is more convenient to you?
Oh that's pretty cool if they have the option! I don't mind doing the whole game in english, it gives me a chance to learn some new words! 😄 this must have been a really difficult game to translate, that localization team must be on another level!
16:00 in and I already have so much to comment on. Firstly, glad you're busting out the dictionary. Better to learn than to miss context. Secondly, I think you're the first person I've watched to bring up the music for the main area - gotta agree, it's mournful. Lastly, in regard to the portraits, I think it's supposed to be the detectives perspective of them - not literally, but the abstraction of the feelings he may have when talking to them. PS - Also, if you feel lost, forgetful about details, don't understand the context? That's perfect. Imagine how the amnesiac detective feels. You have every right to feel overwhelmed and lost with all the info, that might even be the point at this early in the investigation.
The way the portraits are drawn has a lot of symbolism attached to it; what the background contains, how character interacts with it and what sort of art style is being used. Like for example Kim has a white circle behind him similar to the golden halos in Orthodox iconography while your parter from the station call has black square instead. Someone with a lot of knowledge about arts could probably extract a lot of information from the portraits alone.
play the way you like, bro - there are lot long specific words, so don't be shy using a dictionary) hope it will be 2 episodes per week) and about thought cabinet - it's not really about XP, it's about time) you choose the coolest thought - it gives you temporary pros or cons for some time - then you make a conclusion - and it gives you some permanent bonuses (or debuffs) but you can spend you XP points to open new cells for thoughts.
I'd recommend exploring the majority of dialogue trees. There are some excessively insensitive or outright harmful things to say and do, but there aren't really a lot of them. Especially when it comes to asking for info, like with Sylvie and the gun. There are a lot of situations where it's easy to miss out on some info, quests or thoughts unless you are thorough with your questions. Not critical, but still. Of course you should play however you want, just don't be too afraid for your detective to get a bit crazy especially if you really want to see what happens if you say some things. I think Disco Elysium often rewards players for curiosity (and sometimes punishes, but not that severely tbh)
There's so much to miss on just one playthrough it's mind-blowing. The secret ending and some of the hardest skills checks are incredible, but you have to start with very specific stats and research the most important thoughts on day 1 to get them.
Very cool playthrough, thank you for pronouncing the French words. I want to play this game now because I think I will play it very differently from you (no offence :) )
I also appreciate the dictionary as a Hungarian, all though I played the game I mostly just used context clues for the big words, but this is clearly better lol
This is true! my guess is that it was adopted into those languages from French during the Napoleonic wars, since in French it can also mean a horse-cart.
@@MrVonwalt That would be my guess, too, although I couldn't dig up anything definitive in the few minutes I spent doing it just now. When it comes to Croatia, at least, a lot of it was under French rule at the time.
I think you're doing great. Your average American would struggle with some of this abstract writing Nope, never heard the word camionneur before today! Alcohol amnesia is pretty common. Have you heard the term "blackout drunk?" It takes a fair bit of liquor I am glad you are playing this, other content creators I follow are having a bit of a dry spell lately
46:19 "Lazarett" is the German word for a field/mobile hospital, usually for the military, I guess that is the context here - though I don't know if "lazareth" is a real word anyone actually uses, never heard that one in English, except in this game.
Words similar to Lazareth are used in many different European languages and they originate from beggar Lazarus story in the bible. Sometimes that word means hospitals for treating infectious diseases and sometimes it's a synonym for hospital. Edit: Lazar house is probably the English version of this
17:09 im of the opinion that the portraits are supposed to represent the pyschology of a character. Take for example Kim's and Jean's portraits, they both have a very well defined geometry shape behind them and are much more "orderly" while the MC(you)'s portrait is all messy and abstract
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Hey guys! As always, please be mindful of spoilers in your comments! (includes story events, character names that haven't been revealed, but also alternative outcomes when making different choices, because I might want to replay this one later!) My moderator will be going through comments and will remove the spoilery ones. Thank you!
I consider my vocabulary excellent, but Disco Elysium *definitely* taught me, like, 40 new words.
58:46: Without spoiling anything, yes, your dialogue options can have both positive and negative effects, usually by providing modifiers to a skill check. It's usually not a simple "this person will like you more/less from now on", and more like, if you need to impress someone, having said something boastful earlier might give you a positive modifier, and having done something that made you look weak might give you a negative. However, you generally shouldn't be afraid of saying "unusual" things. People tend to give you the benefit of the doubt because you're a cop, and the game generally rolls with it and doesn't punish you for being curious
31:05 Read the Esprit de Corps skill description and you'll get why you can "see" Jules etc
Don't worry about not making progress. You are obtaining information, which is a very important thing in a murder investigation. The game allows for many playstyles
I really love your way of playing this game. Alone the fact that you use a dictionary for words you don't know.
Agreed. I find it really annoying when some streamers act conceited about not understanding things instead of just making an effort to understand like a normal curious person.
same! I had to pull up the dictionary here and there too. I have a list of words I learned from the game wwwww
Love the gameplay! Don't worry about taking your time, it's what the game's all about. There's no one way to play it, every playthrough is valid. :) Then, more of a technical hint (way down, just in case):
In your "Skills" menu, every skill (Logic, Encyclopedia, etc.) has a menu in the top right - "Overview/Info" - where you can click on "Info" to get detailed information about every skill. I found it helpful in understanding what a certain skill does (Like, what the hell is "Savoir faire" or "Esprit de corps" :D).
Only mentioning it because I didn't even realize that was a menu until I watched someone else play it. 🙈
Exploring dialogue options is the perfect way to experience the richness of Disco Elysium's writing. There is such a wealth of amazingly worded content to be found in the dialogue trees. Please don't rush, let your curiosity lead you to the weird and wonderful. 👍
P.S.: I know how it feels to read text out loud and not remember the details of what I read afterwards. Doing it on camera is probably even worse.
I appreciate the dictionary usage. Even as a native english speaker, there were quite a few words that I didn't know, and I was too lazy to look them up lol. Take your sweet time with this game, I'm sure many of us are looking forward to a long playthrough 😃
Yay, more Disco Elysium!!
"Apricot Suzerainty" is basically same as saying "oh you're from that banana republic". It is quite offensive, but luckily the street vendor didn't care about your comment.
Ooof, now that you mention it 😬😓
Saw your first part of this game and had to click this one when saw it. Disco Elysium is a great game. I wish I used a dictionary on my first playthrough. 😁 Greetings from Finland.
Btw, they use finnish words in this game too. Like pipo, which is like a beanie. 😉
Damn, I'll need a multilingual dictionary!
@@LukaelPlays haha yup 😄
I love this game, without going into much detail the descriptions are right, succeeding a check does not mean you have to follow its instructions or that it will lead your character optimally. Maybe that is why I love Volition.
I'm pretty sure half the players (even from English speaking countries) don't understand many of the words used in this game and just rely on context to understand their general meaning, so I'm all for the dictionary usage if it doesn't bother you, I already learned a few words from this video that I kind of just went over in my own playthrough.
Regarding the language barrier:
There's an option to set a second language and then you can switch the text seamlessly between let's say English and French by pressing a hotkey.
I would probably be even more confused in french tbh
I really appreciate your style of being thorough and taking the time to understand words you don’t know. There’s just so much writing in the game it would be a shame to breeze past it and just laser focus on the case. Lots to explore and learn as an amnesiac. 😅
Hobocop is back! I'm really surprised *how* funny this game is. The options you have are sometimes sooo outta pocket 😭
49:18 Yeah you can. I had a friend who lost his memory after drinking and get into hospital because of it. The memory returned to him over a week or something.
That's gotta be a baaaaaad hangover 😬
@@LukaelPlays His case was not so severe as main character in DE - he remembered what money is and what country we living in but he could not recognize people or events that happened to him.
Hey man, I love you stopping and checking the dictionary, so don’t worry about it. I’m sure I don’t have a precise definition for every single word in the game, and it’s in my language 😂 Hell, if I was playing this in French I’d have to dip into that dictionary every 3rd word… if I was *lucky* 🤣 Check it as much as you want. I’m sure I’ll learn something I didn’t know from it myself.
I’m glad you enjoy this. It really is a huge challenge in a second language no matter how fluent you might be. I seriously respect you taking it on.
Something to bear in mind though: the language they choose to employ is at times, I firmly believe, intended to confuse and confound the player. You are playing a character who’s out of his depth, without any knowledge of the world, surrounded by people who talk as if they simply take it for granted that he would have a certain level of knowledge already instilled in him, exactly as you described in your intro when explaining how some of it went over your head. I believe the language is supposed to leave you scratching your head a little bit so you can experience it somewhat as the character is experiencing the world. Sometimes you might wonder if you are role-playing the character or if the character is role-playing you 😉 😂
Very well put!
Making progress in this game is just talking to people and achieving whatever goals you set for yourself (prioritizing quests you like), no rush just do whatever feels right.
Enjoying this playthrough so far! One piece of non-spoilery advice I would give is that while your choices in this game do matter, if you're curious to see where a certain dialogue path would lead but you're like 50/50 between picking it or backing out, you should go for it. I'm not saying you should go around saying yes to everything but if you're not sure what to do you can follow your curiosity and trust that the game will take you somewhere interesting.
I totally support your decision to keep dictionary open, this game is indeed very text-heavy and uses very advanced language from time to time. Actually, I think there is an option to switch between two different languages by pressing L (? might want to check that in settings). I myself, not being native English speaker, sometimes used that while playing to see what characters are saying in my native language. So maybe you can use it to switch between English and French, if reading French is more convenient to you?
Oh that's pretty cool if they have the option! I don't mind doing the whole game in english, it gives me a chance to learn some new words! 😄 this must have been a really difficult game to translate, that localization team must be on another level!
16:00 in and I already have so much to comment on. Firstly, glad you're busting out the dictionary. Better to learn than to miss context. Secondly, I think you're the first person I've watched to bring up the music for the main area - gotta agree, it's mournful. Lastly, in regard to the portraits, I think it's supposed to be the detectives perspective of them - not literally, but the abstraction of the feelings he may have when talking to them.
PS - Also, if you feel lost, forgetful about details, don't understand the context? That's perfect. Imagine how the amnesiac detective feels. You have every right to feel overwhelmed and lost with all the info, that might even be the point at this early in the investigation.
The way the portraits are drawn has a lot of symbolism attached to it; what the background contains, how character interacts with it and what sort of art style is being used. Like for example Kim has a white circle behind him similar to the golden halos in Orthodox iconography while your parter from the station call has black square instead. Someone with a lot of knowledge about arts could probably extract a lot of information from the portraits alone.
play the way you like, bro - there are lot long specific words, so don't be shy using a dictionary)
hope it will be 2 episodes per week)
and about thought cabinet - it's not really about XP, it's about time) you choose the coolest thought - it gives you temporary pros or cons for some time - then you make a conclusion - and it gives you some permanent bonuses (or debuffs)
but you can spend you XP points to open new cells for thoughts.
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So glad we're getting more of this series, I looked forward to it all week
I'd recommend exploring the majority of dialogue trees. There are some excessively insensitive or outright harmful things to say and do, but there aren't really a lot of them. Especially when it comes to asking for info, like with Sylvie and the gun. There are a lot of situations where it's easy to miss out on some info, quests or thoughts unless you are thorough with your questions. Not critical, but still.
Of course you should play however you want, just don't be too afraid for your detective to get a bit crazy especially if you really want to see what happens if you say some things. I think Disco Elysium often rewards players for curiosity (and sometimes punishes, but not that severely tbh)
Gotcha!
1:17:50 For white checks, you usually can change your clothes for it if you want to. You can exit the convo, change your clothes, and come back.
I never saw that whole interaction with the Man on the Water lock! still discovering new stuff with this game
There's so much to miss on just one playthrough it's mind-blowing. The secret ending and some of the hardest skills checks are incredible, but you have to start with very specific stats and research the most important thoughts on day 1 to get them.
You missed the salami? Sad.
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I missed the ledger on my first playthrough
30:00 Kim's VA is Belgian I believe
Very cool playthrough, thank you for pronouncing the French words. I want to play this game now because I think I will play it very differently from you (no offence :) )
I also appreciate the dictionary as a Hungarian, all though I played the game I mostly just used context clues for the big words, but this is clearly better lol
I'm not sure I've heard it in English before, but a lot of Slavic languages use "camion" for truck.
This is true! my guess is that it was adopted into those languages from French during the Napoleonic wars, since in French it can also mean a horse-cart.
@@MrVonwalt That would be my guess, too, although I couldn't dig up anything definitive in the few minutes I spent doing it just now. When it comes to Croatia, at least, a lot of it was under French rule at the time.
In Spanish too.
24:02 This reaction is PERFECT!
I think you're doing great. Your average American would struggle with some of this abstract writing
Nope, never heard the word camionneur before today!
Alcohol amnesia is pretty common. Have you heard the term "blackout drunk?" It takes a fair bit of liquor
I am glad you are playing this, other content creators I follow are having a bit of a dry spell lately
Yeah but you usually lose memories of the night you were drinking on, not the entire world you live in, the concept of money and your own face ahaha
*Laughs even harder*
46:19 "Lazarett" is the German word for a field/mobile hospital, usually for the military, I guess that is the context here - though I don't know if "lazareth" is a real word anyone actually uses, never heard that one in English, except in this game.
Makes sense!
Words similar to Lazareth are used in many different European languages and they originate from beggar Lazarus story in the bible. Sometimes that word means hospitals for treating infectious diseases and sometimes it's a synonym for hospital.
Edit: Lazar house is probably the English version of this
17:09 im of the opinion that the portraits are supposed to represent the pyschology of a character. Take for example Kim's and Jean's portraits, they both have a very well defined geometry shape behind them and are much more "orderly" while the MC(you)'s portrait is all messy and abstract
That's what I'm thinking!
Loving this playthrough already, is the uploads on TH-cam going to be weekly?
Yes! then once I'm finished with Detroit Become Human, I'll likely be switching to two Disco videos per week~
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