Thx Scott! My band is working on our siund and this really helps. I grabbed one of those Behringer PMP 2000 units cheap off Ebay… right now we have powered speakers, so I assume we need to feed those off the front like powered monitors. I downloaded the owner manual and read the whole thing… I find this facinating. My Dad used to do old- school audio visual repair and also set up sound for a company in D.C. back in the 60s, maybe I soaked some of that in.
Scott, thank you for your clear explanation and patience. Glad you start with the basics because thats what i need. My confidence is growing on buying and using a basic PA for our band, Greetz from the Netherlands
Thanks for posting Scott, these are helpful videos, even for people who have played a long time. You mentioned Sunn. My very first PA was a Sunn Coliseum Slave and Controller. I think it was like 16 channels with big speakers and horns.
hey scott, tried making youtube videos using my phone today and they blew dog LOL need to get a camera like the cx440 you have. I am very happy that you are making youtube videos again you have been and influence on me since I was a child and now I live on my own and I want to take my guitar playing and make a career out of it teaching and doing repairs and mods or what have you.
I have several of those Kustom 10" speakers. Bang for the buck for me so far. The pair I have like in this video (monitors) I have had for a long time. They still work great.
I hear you my friend. I've actually used 24 of them at a few DJ and single act gigs I've done. They are the one and only cabinet that has "IT" from them. I've put other 10's in them just to check things out and nothing that I tried in them ever "fit" the cab right for the sound these puppies put out. It's hard to avoid constantly purchasing 4 of the regular cabs or the monitors when they constantly come up on Musician's "Deal of the day" for under fifty bucks each with free shipping. I have a few of those Behringer iNUKE NU6000's that are 4 channels. So, really super easy to drive 8 cabinets per power amp. 3 amps that weigh under 10 pounds each pushing 24 of those cabinets set up to cover a whole room just right makes for an amazingly clear sound that is exactly the same in any given spot in the room. Too cool.
@@groovydjs Stupid deal is where I got mine. lol Waiting for them to pop up again. I want more. Thanks for all your help. As I mentioned before, my son and I have things sounding better than they ever have with your advice.
Thank you so much Dr G!!!! you were right..they are Sunns and very old. Got them cheap from someone needing money, thought I got a deal but found out not so much.
@@alphanumeric1529 Well yes I guess it is.....but after seeing this video it clarified a few things and my small "cheap system" isn't very balanced, the head is 100w mains and 100w monitor...the speakers are 100w each so my amp appears to be undersized. I am just going to use this in a bedroom type setting where a friend and I can get together and jam a bit so it may not be that bad in the long run. still learning about this stuff so please...be kind! LOL...
@@greenhornfarmer3598 I've got nothing but kind! But I think the meaning of Dr. G's point is that you've got good speakers that can take a lot of wattage, you just have an underpowered head. That's a good thing, in this day and age, it seems solid state amplification is cheap as chips, its quality speakers that are hard to come by. If I'm missing it, someone please correct me. I've been playing music for 28 years, and have had ohms/wattage explained to me countless times, and honestly, I'm on the smarter end of the spectrum, but this wisdom really does totally escape me.
A friend was recently bragging to me about his new PA with two cabinets 18" and a horn. As if I was not shaking my head enough, his buddy went out and bought four more 18" with a horn cabs. I am SURE they sound fantastic. LMAO!!!
@@groovydjs Well Scott, there are some people that REFUSE to learn ANYTHING new. Their ego simply will not allow it. I have even taught my children that I look forward to being wrong, as it is THE ONLY way we learn. Doing a video in just a few minutes that relates to this on the subject of politics.
Scott, If it wasn't for your first videos on Sound Systems. I wouldn't know anything about them. Since I've learned from your first videos on it. I've been running them for my Church for two years now at my new church and before that, I did it for eight years at my last church. My new church it was kind of a mess until I fixed it. I have the drum mics, piano, organ, bass, and four mics all running in a PA system. I control all of that and stage lighting and two projectors for the slideshow for the lyrics to the music.
@@groovydjs I've learned a lot from the hands-on, but If it wasn't for you and your videos. I wouldn't have had a clue and probably broke something lol.
Hi Scott, many thanks for a thorough explanation of cabs, power amps and Ohms, it was very useful to properly understand the topic. Keep yourself well and in the best of health. Best wishes from England :-D .
Many thanks. I'm glad to bring some of that stuff to light. You take care as well. We don't need any more zombies on the streets than we already have. lol
I have floorstanders and they say on the back 150watts sinus power and 250watts music power... whats the RMS or the max load in watts? Also I thought RMS and peak were the same thing lol!
I got to thinking, after watching this. Uh oh! Lol! I have known for many years about using thicker gauge speaker cables but, I never thought of running a heavy gauge inside my guitar cabinets. Do you think a Cab would benefit from having thicker gauge wire, for wiring the speakers together?
Behringer just LIES about the output power of all of their amplifiers; guitar, bass, and PA power amps. They lie to sell their equipment to unsuspecting customers who believe their claims, only to get that 700 watt bass amp home and discover that their existing 200 watt bass amp is MUCH louder than Behringers 700 watt amp. This is the kind of marketing that makes people believe that Behringer equipment is trash. BTW, when a company does not give any indication of the distortion of their PA power amplifiers at rated output power, or does not at least offer an RMS, Music Power or Peak description of their power rating, they are almost always trying to hide the truth. And the "truth" is almost always that you are being lied to, to sell inferior, over-rated equipment.
Yep, every company out there is doing it. Behringer wasn't doing it when I purchased all the gear I have from them, but they started doing so when Peavey etc. started doing it. So, Behringer followed, they certainly didn't lead this ugly trend.
Sure. The 15" speakers are not capable of reproducing the midrange and upper mids that smaller sized speakers can. So, the 15" and horn is fine as long as there is like a 10" or 12" are in there with a crossover internally or externally to cover those frequencies while the 15" is busy covering the lows.
@@groovydjs The 15's and a horn combo is so ubiquitous when I've seen and/or played gigs and been to events that I never thought twice about it. I never found myself thinking one sounded better than the other on the occasions the system consisted of some smaller hi-packs, either. But now I'm really curious to hear some of these different setups side by side to see if I could. I think it's very likely I just don't have the discriminating ear to be able to tell a difference :D
I’ve owned Peavey mixer heads since the 70s . My first was a pawnshop 4 ch aluminum nob version they have all gave me good service. But we picked up on with guitar amps there were Peavey watts which were Less then half of as 100 watt Peavey = maybe 20 watt Mesa Boogie in volume so I just looked at my 8600D mixer head listed at 1200 watt this model has 2 mains outputs and 2 Monitor outputs I says 300 watts rms both ch driven. Into 8 ohms. doesn’t that mean if I use both main outputs into 2 speakers 8 ohms it’s 150 watt the other models only have 1 for mains 1 for monitor you gotta Daisy chain them like yours the manual is jerky on this. No complaints they work my speaks are 200 watt. I’ve been thinking of running it stereo that would be 360 w into 8 ohms I’m not a real loud guy mostly in rehearsal world club I’d go mono
Hey Scott. Just wondering if you would do some videos on some good 'ol times when the music was good. Lyin Eyes,Take It Easy - The Eagles. Thanks man,, Grove on~!~
Thx Scott! My band is working on our siund and this really helps. I grabbed one of those Behringer PMP 2000 units cheap off Ebay… right now we have powered speakers, so I assume we need to feed those off the front like powered monitors. I downloaded the owner manual and read the whole thing… I find this facinating.
My Dad used to do old- school audio visual repair and also set up sound for a company in D.C. back in the 60s, maybe I soaked some of that in.
Scott, thank you for your clear explanation and patience. Glad you start with the basics because thats what i need. My confidence is growing on buying and using a basic PA for our band, Greetz from the Netherlands
i know it's kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good website to stream newly released tv shows online?
@Wilson Grey Ehh I watch on flixportal. just google for it:D -muhammad
@Muhammad Ryder thank you, I went there and it seems like they got a lot of movies there :) Appreciate it!!
@Wilson Grey You are welcome =)
The Dr. is in...Thank you Scott. As always, another no bullshit, only useful information video.
Excellent, Scott. Keep up your great work. Thank you.
As always Scott clear and informative cheers buddy
Thanks for posting Scott, these are helpful videos, even for people who have played a long time. You mentioned Sunn. My very first PA was a Sunn Coliseum Slave and Controller. I think it was like 16 channels with big speakers and horns.
Thank you Scott, very good video, saludos from Argentina !
hey scott, tried making youtube videos using my phone today and they blew dog LOL need to get a camera like the cx440 you have. I am very happy that you are making youtube videos again you have been and influence on me since I was a child and now I live on my own and I want to take my guitar playing and make a career out of it teaching and doing repairs and mods or what have you.
I have several of those Kustom 10" speakers. Bang for the buck for me so far. The pair I have like in this video (monitors) I have had for a long time. They still work great.
I hear you my friend. I've actually used 24 of them at a few DJ and single act gigs I've done. They are the one and only cabinet that has "IT" from them. I've put other 10's in them just to check things out and nothing that I tried in them ever "fit" the cab right for the sound these puppies put out. It's hard to avoid constantly purchasing 4 of the regular cabs or the monitors when they constantly come up on Musician's "Deal of the day" for under fifty bucks each with free shipping. I have a few of those Behringer iNUKE NU6000's that are 4 channels. So, really super easy to drive 8 cabinets per power amp. 3 amps that weigh under 10 pounds each pushing 24 of those cabinets set up to cover a whole room just right makes for an amazingly clear sound that is exactly the same in any given spot in the room. Too cool.
@@groovydjs Stupid deal is where I got mine. lol Waiting for them to pop up again. I want more. Thanks for all your help. As I mentioned before, my son and I have things sounding better than they ever have with your advice.
Excellent. I've tried explaining this to the guys that own the PA, and falls on deaf ears. Thanks.
Awesome. I'm glad that is something that you can show them that MIGHT sink in. lol
Thank you so much Dr G!!!! you were right..they are Sunns and very old. Got them cheap from someone needing money, thought I got a deal but found out not so much.
Hey my friend. Pretty good call huh? lol I tend to run across pretty much everything over the years and I remember those very well.
Wait, you got the Sunns cheap? Isn't that a good deal?
@@alphanumeric1529 Well yes I guess it is.....but after seeing this video it clarified a few things and my small "cheap system" isn't very balanced, the head is 100w mains and 100w monitor...the speakers are 100w each so my amp appears to be undersized. I am just going to use this in a bedroom type setting where a friend and I can get together and jam a bit so it may not be that bad in the long run. still learning about this stuff so please...be kind! LOL...
@@greenhornfarmer3598 I've got nothing but kind! But I think the meaning of Dr. G's point is that you've got good speakers that can take a lot of wattage, you just have an underpowered head. That's a good thing, in this day and age, it seems solid state amplification is cheap as chips, its quality speakers that are hard to come by. If I'm missing it, someone please correct me. I've been playing music for 28 years, and have had ohms/wattage explained to me countless times, and honestly, I'm on the smarter end of the spectrum, but this wisdom really does totally escape me.
@@alphanumeric1529 Probably just my inexperience and Noob factor getting in the way.....Thanks!
Thanks so much for these videos - great info and very helpful!
very good explanation Thanks
Need to make sure speakers are jumpered in parallel too
A friend was recently bragging to me about his new PA with two cabinets 18" and a horn. As if I was not shaking my head enough, his buddy went out and bought four more 18" with a horn cabs. I am SURE they sound fantastic. LMAO!!!
OUCH, that has to be just all kinds of nasty. lol
@@groovydjs Well Scott, there are some people that REFUSE to learn ANYTHING new. Their ego simply will not allow it. I have even taught my children that I look forward to being wrong, as it is THE ONLY way we learn. Doing a video in just a few minutes that relates to this on the subject of politics.
This helps a ton and bring up more questions,lol
Scott, If it wasn't for your first videos on Sound Systems. I wouldn't know anything about them. Since I've learned from your first videos on it. I've been running them for my Church for two years now at my new church and before that, I did it for eight years at my last church. My new church it was kind of a mess until I fixed it. I have the drum mics, piano, organ, bass, and four mics all running in a PA system. I control all of that and stage lighting and two projectors for the slideshow for the lyrics to the music.
That is awesome dude. You must have learned a lot there with all of your hands on experience now.
@@groovydjs I've learned a lot from the hands-on, but If it wasn't for you and your videos. I wouldn't have had a clue and probably broke something lol.
Hey Scott groovy stuff!!
Good stuff Dr. Thank you.
Scott Grove is the grooviest.
Thanks
Hi Scott, many thanks for a thorough explanation of cabs, power amps and Ohms, it was very useful to properly understand the topic.
Keep yourself well and in the best of health.
Best wishes from England :-D .
Many thanks. I'm glad to bring some of that stuff to light. You take care as well. We don't need any more zombies on the streets than we already have. lol
Brilliant,thank you
I have floorstanders and they say on the back 150watts sinus power and 250watts music power... whats the RMS or the max load in watts? Also I thought RMS and peak were the same thing lol!
I got to thinking, after watching this. Uh oh! Lol! I have known for many years about using thicker gauge speaker cables but, I never thought of running a heavy gauge inside my guitar cabinets. Do you think a Cab would benefit from having thicker gauge wire, for wiring the speakers together?
Behringer just LIES about the output power of all of their amplifiers; guitar, bass, and PA power amps. They lie to sell their equipment to unsuspecting customers who believe their claims, only to get that 700 watt bass amp home and discover that their existing 200 watt bass amp is MUCH louder than Behringers 700 watt amp. This is the kind of marketing that makes people believe that Behringer equipment is trash. BTW, when a company does not give any indication of the distortion of their PA power amplifiers at rated output power, or does not at least offer an RMS, Music Power or Peak description of their power rating, they are almost always trying to hide the truth. And the "truth" is almost always that you are being lied to, to sell inferior, over-rated equipment.
Yep, every company out there is doing it. Behringer wasn't doing it when I purchased all the gear I have from them, but they started doing so when Peavey etc. started doing it. So, Behringer followed, they certainly didn't lead this ugly trend.
Scott you have gone beyond a good explanation and I was not even interested in this stuff, now I know lots more than I did. Thank you!
"Never run a cabinet with 2 15" and a horn"? Could you elaborate on that?
Sure. The 15" speakers are not capable of reproducing the midrange and upper mids that smaller sized speakers can. So, the 15" and horn is fine as long as there is like a 10" or 12" are in there with a crossover internally or externally to cover those frequencies while the 15" is busy covering the lows.
@@groovydjs The 15's and a horn combo is so ubiquitous when I've seen and/or played gigs and been to events that I never thought twice about it. I never found myself thinking one sounded better than the other on the occasions the system consisted of some smaller hi-packs, either. But now I'm really curious to hear some of these different setups side by side to see if I could. I think it's very likely I just don't have the discriminating ear to be able to tell a difference :D
I’ve owned Peavey mixer heads since the 70s . My first was a pawnshop 4 ch aluminum nob version they have all gave me good service. But we picked up on with guitar amps there were Peavey watts which were Less then half of as 100 watt Peavey = maybe 20 watt Mesa Boogie in volume so I just looked at my 8600D mixer head listed at 1200 watt this model has 2 mains outputs and 2 Monitor outputs I says 300 watts rms both ch driven. Into 8 ohms. doesn’t that mean if I use both main outputs into 2 speakers 8 ohms it’s 150 watt the other models only have 1 for mains 1 for monitor you gotta Daisy chain them like yours the manual is jerky on this. No complaints they work my speaks are 200 watt. I’ve been thinking of running it stereo that would be 360 w into 8 ohms I’m not a real loud guy mostly in rehearsal world club I’d go mono
great stuff
Is there a way to use a sub in a rig like this?
Hey Scott. Just wondering if you would do some videos on some good 'ol times when the music was good. Lyin Eyes,Take It Easy - The Eagles. Thanks man,, Grove on~!~