My main takeaway after the 1st week of weekend tournaments for Mythical Island is that the meta is pretty diverse and that is good for the game and competitive scene.
I still run dragonite with pidgeot non ex and get a good win rate. Just constant spam of its ability in the early game plus building dragonite on the bench is a lot of fun. Pikachu kills it so quickly tho.
Here's a fun fact about Pikachu EX: It hard counters most uses of Mew EX because Mew can't effectively copy Circle Circuit since it specifies that you need Electric Pokemon on your Bench to work.
Only to die to every other EX lmfao and even the mewtwo decks that use it will just swap that into Mewtwo EX instead. Good try though. Pika is not really in thankfully.
@@uiucchemistry2664 This is the case since game released and it's the 2nd most used deck in tournament after m2. Every other deck require a lot of setup while Pikachu is insanely fast so it barely matter if he's weak to other EX's when he can weaken or delete them before they can move.
@@nikunjkhangwal yeah it was the case since the beginning due to Charizard and mewtwo decks keeping pika in check let alone lucky Misty articuno combos killing pika lmfao. My point is now with more new ex mons being introduced and other cards making even off-meta decks relevant there may not be a hard counter to pika other than fighting type decks but other decks don’t struggle hard against it like in the past. Also, pika isn’t the only fast deck around as aggro Blaine easily counters with ninetales Blaine combo requiring little set up where as Pikachu needs a full bench which isn’t guaranteed for the pika players first or second turns not to mention Sabrina exists to make pika players waste an energy to swap pika back in or be lucky and have an x speed in hand to counter. Pikachu EX is strong but it’s low A tier or upper B tier and thankfully no longer S tier. Also Pika EX doesn’t really counter Mew EX lmao because you’re forgetting that they have a budding expeditionist in hand renders that 90 damage useless as Pika isn’t OHKOing it. It’s just that Mew EX can’t beat Pika but Pika can’t reliably kill Mew EX from full hp. Pika is a soft counter to Mew EX not hard counter.
@@uiucchemistry2664 the best counter in the new golem with dugdraigon, jesus that combo majes pikachu deck suffer y you are not able to kill geodude or graveler on time.
We DESPERATELY need more metal support and love, and a Lance supporter card that summons or enables a dragon type card in your deck to give dragonite some love
@@yojimbojack1350 maybe not allowing to use bench energy that turn. It would unlock dragon's atks on 1 energy decks, like nite on water decks and drud on fire. Would be really cool actually.
Btw pro tip: To make it easier to find cards when looking at all your cards, sort it by Type instead of the default Dex# on the bottom right. Doing it by Type mixes both Sets and also sorts by type and pokemon. So it's much easier to find stuff
100% agree Drudd is the meta defining card, I like that it's a passive card though. It's possibly too strong given it's prevalence but you get to make choices around it.
I do like what it does to the meta but I think I will get tired of super drawn out stall mirrors lol. So many decks just want to sit behind a wall right now
I remember back in the early Unite days when you would mix up all the Mon at the end of the tier list to make the people that skipped to the end really scratch their heads. You should do that again, it was my favorite part haha
I think the new Rapidash should also be talked about for Blaine decks, it's just a straight up improvement from Genetic Apex Rapidash and it's really strong
@nathiebear not quite, as a main many prefer old rapidash because each are situational, the extra energy cost can hurt when your playing that fast paced. New rapidash is better when you get it set up on the field first and set up your ninetail on the bench after, but you can't set up the new rapidash when you already have a ninetails on the field eating an energy every turn
I just want to give some love to you! I think you're doing a really great job, you're putting so much effort into your videos, especially with this community being so new and fresh. We're all having so much fun right now playing this new game and experimenting and stuff a you're contributing a lot to us having an even better experience. Thank you!
@brennenrussell if you aren't running leaf, then your opponent gets to pick when you switch in. That's never good, especially with people running more and more backline targeters
@@brennenrussell Drudd is literally just a different variation of Snorlax without Leaf. His strength lies in the fact that he is a wall that does damage, only takes 2 slots in your deck AND requires no energy. You need Leaf to get the first hit into your oponent after you set up behind Drud. Otherwise you either have to spend energy to retreat it or let your oponent use your drud against you and set up themselves.
Grinded quickly through the event using a mew along with blaine, easily covers any mewtwo or charizard deck. That along with the one shot of celebi using ninetails blaine makes it such a counter to any non-water meta deck.
feel like Scoli is being slept on here. Yes its a stage 2 but thats its form of build up, vs other decks needing energy etc. With poison from Whirlipede or Weezing. it ohkos Pika EX, Mewtwo EX, Mew EX, Celebi EX, and with a hit from Weezing it catches a lot more mons. and then running a single Salandit in the deck basically means u have a mini Basic Scoli, that often has the speed advantage to kill or buys time with the damage to shuffle Weezing around or find that evo to Scoli. and the deck doesnt run EX so opponents need 3 points against you. I dont know about anyone else running the list but i genuinely feel like im +80% win rate because the decks only rng is Whirlipede or Weezing draw misses. i got the 50 wins no problem in a few days of grinding after work. the low energy costs really feels like the decks most power point.
The list realtively popular. Salandit not so much since you need to use resources (Koga, Leaf, X speed or energy) for it to do only 50 damage. I would suggest just running farfetchd by that point since it actually does something when drawn turn 1 and it only does 10 less dmg when switched into a poisoned mon. The most popular list i think just runs a single Arbok line.
My two favourite decks are Dragonite-Drudd and Gyrados-Drudd atm. Dragonite is super RNG with the attack rolls but it's fun getting 3 points in one turn.
I run a Melmetal steel deck, and I would say it's C at best. Melmetal is an amazing defensive wall. Offensive though, it takes way too much set up to get going. Meltan kind of helps with that, but you'll have to start with it going second. Otherwise, you're playing a game of chance. Sometimes by the time it's ready, Meltan took enough damage, and Melmetal don't have the tanky HP you wanted. On the other hand, Bisharp is a neat damage dealing mon. While Mawile is an okay way to prevent active mon set up (And if you can land heads). The pros are nice defensively, but offensively the cons sort of outweigh it. Doesn't help that there's no cards that helps out steel types.
I’ve been having a lot of success w melmetal. Just two meltan, two melmetal, and a chatot. And a bunch of trainer support. You basically either start with Melmetal and start ramping or you start with chatot and cycle your hand away to see your meltans and Melmetals. The deck is super good, and it lines up well into the meta right now.
I have been running a 2 Meltan 2 Mew EX deck with double expeditioner and double Gio. It's kind of good? Not the best deck but certainly the best meltan list i've played. You can set up Mew to threaten their EXs and lead the game to a stalemate and once you get your melmetal set up it's checkmate. Gio is really important so metal can OHKO Celebi and most importantly Mew EX. Also turn 2 meltan gets going really fast (like you said) and it's surprisingly strong against set up decks that use drud to stall.
Glad to see that we think alike on Leaf :D And in a way I agree with Druddigon being meta defining. I’m actually running a fast grass deck featuring Dhelmise and Serperior specifically to shut down all these stalling nonsense.
Hmm I think Gengar is pretty decent for this wave. A lot of decks are relying on Leaf now. Having a Gengar out to prevent them from using it is a huge help. I have a pretty cool Gengar deck I run for fun and it typically wins because my opponent can’t retreat. At lease a C tier. I don’t think he deserves a D. Love your content btw! I’m here to stay 🙌
Been really liking the Mew/Mewtwo deck combo. Search for Gard while Mew tanks and having trainer to pull it back to hand, blocks a lot and gives a time to build up Mewtwo in the back much better than what it's been before. Plus Mew being a good foil counter copy decks, it's been doing really well. I slot in Blue and Jinx to help fight common decks like Celebi and Mewtwo mirror matches as well.
I've been trying to use Caterpie in some grass decks. I've had luck with caterpie, Executtor ex, and Venesuar EX deck. Most of the time if you get lucky with the poke balls and draw cards you can have all your pokemon in your hand at turn one. Might not be the strongest but being able to pump out venasuar by turn 2 or 3 is fun.
Tauros, Druddigon and Greninja deck running fire and water energy is shockingly consistent. Tauros is the main attacker, but this deck can use Druddigon as not only a wall, but also as an attacker if needed. Greninja can also attack if needed since it only needs one water and one colorless to attack. Greninja plus Druddigon passive damage makes Tauros one hit any EX. It only has problems against Golem.
I'm using Serperior with new Exeggutor and it does well enough. Main problem is energy of course since you're not always guaranteed to get Serperior on your bench but the moment Exeggutor gets to attack, it can defeat most enemies. I also like having no EX on my deck. In regards to Venasaur EX, I think it goes MIA simply because of better grass pokemon choices like Celebi EX and Exeggutor (and maybe Dhelmise)
for me, the deck i brewed with this expansion is diabolical, i use mankey from the promo pack and OG Primeape to take damage and do a consistent 100 all the time, and, as they are a glass cannon, theres always a Marshadow back there... just staring... and i use Aerodactyl EX for their ability and the amber as coverture. all the decks are easily defeated with this combo, especially Celebi and Charizard... except mew... mew ex deck just kicks your ass every time... BUT THATS ONLY AGAINST MEW, I SWEAR!
Mew on a psychic deck is meant to chip while you set up in the back and draw the cards you need, then you use the explorer support card to retreat it for free, good damage sponge/chipper.
I still really like my Lilligant + Venusar deck. Adding a 1-off Celebi was a big help. It’s a great tank and worthwhile recipient of the extra energy if the Venusaur EX line isn’t coming online
I like the format here! Being able to see each card displayed and discussed is nice for this game in particular. Nicely done and keep up the good work! We see it and appreciate it.
I found a great synergy with greninja, rapidash and druddigon and using the low energy rapidash makes you able to power up druddigon and people are afraid to attack it
Agreed with putting Druddigon on top. I do think Leaf deserves to stand alongside it however. Leaf really does enable soooo many possibilities by helping 2+ retreat pokemon, Druddigon included. Both cards are on course to being staples in many decks.
(Sorry for long comment) Hey I just tested a custom Surge themed deck (Electabuzz (new) plus Electrode and raichu), so far finding it so fun to play Basic idea: 1. Electrode can dish out decent early damage to opponent pokemon (especially those not yet fully evolved) and forced them to retreat 2. And since (right now) no one expects it - you can retreat (at no cost), and quickly use surge to move the two energies to Electabuzz and kill the opponent's low hp pokemon he just retreated 3. Electabuzz can continue to weaken fat pokemon (like a powering up Gyarados) 4. Raichu for late game damage
Do you have a deck list? Would like to try it myself:) My most successful deck is a grass deck with Celebi, Caterpie, Serperior, and Egg. It’s like two decks in one, because I can hard focus Celebi if I can’t get egg online and vice versa. Have like 90% win rate with it right now.
@dbgt777 1 Mew Ex, 2 Druddigon, 2 copies of the dragonite evolution line, 1 potion, 2 X-speeds, 2 pokeballs, 2 professor's research, 1 budding expeditioner, 2 Leafs. The goal in most games is to use Mew and druddigon to frontline long enough for you to build up Dragonite and sweep. Energy is really important in this deck so you can't afford to allocate energy to swapping cards which is why you run 2 x speeds as well as 2 copies of leaf, you'll have games where the only basic pokemon in your hand is a dratini so you want to be able to it them out of the line of fire without wasting any energy. Mew can tank hits then fully heal by recalling it to your hand with budding expeditioner, this buys you more time to build up dragonite; mew also hard counter charizard and mew two which dragonite can sometimes have trouble dealing with, against those matchups you can power up your mew and one shot the enemy metro before it gets online because mew needs 1 less energy. The reason this deck works so well is because is not an EX pokemon dispite having power the late game power that rivals one, this means that even in games where your druddigon dies and the enemy manages to take out one of your dragonites, you can still have a mew waiting in the wings to clean up or even a second dragonite.
I run 1 Lapras EX, 1 Gyrados EX, 1 Starmie EX, and 2 Vaporeons. I got 45 wins fairly consistently. Lapras is great because the 20 healing helps it survive an extra hit or 2 while you charge up gyrados. By the time it’s ready to switch out, I have a leaf and vaporeon ready to go to easily transfer water energy. Lapras is one of my favorite Pokémon and I tried a lot of combos to make it work. This is the best so far. Articuno may be better, but that 20 healing for Lapras comes in handy way more often than you’d think
I've tried Gyarados EX, several variants of Celebi, Golem (don't have Pidgeot EX yet), and I found the Golem deck to be shockingly consistent and adaptable with multiple win-conditions. If you pull multiple basics, you can choose who to start with by guessing your opponent's deck based on energy. Running 2 Leafs gives you the opportunity to make plays in the early / mid game, especially with Hitmonlee. There is space for a Giovanni to hit the 130 threshold for Celebi and several other EXes, and 150 if the opponent just hit / KO'd Druddigon. Not to mention that since it is an EX-less deck, you can even set up revenge plays with Marshadow.
I really hope they dont add battle/account stats, it wouldnt “change” anything fundamentally but i like not having to see or care about my W/L and using fun decks that dont always win
Ive been running marowak primeape and absolutely wrecking most decks. My goal is setup marowak asap and deal as much damage as possible before they can setup
gyarados ex is one of the most used decks right now lol. Celebi has fallen off because people are realizing its attack is not reliable enough and its hp is in range for easy KO by fire decks, gyarados ex, mewtwo ex...
I'm happy when I get Celebi as an opponent. It's just not that great of a deck. Even if they get 5 billion coin flips I can usually set up a good revenge kill
Small shout out to Petilil/Lilligant and Dhelmise for being really good support/setup cards for Serperior Decks. Both can stall fairly well in a grass deck while countering certain pokemon or giving a grass energy while also dealing good damage. (Mew gets HARD countered by Dhelmise)
I was having a lot of fun with Muk before the expansion and Scolipede is just a straight up upgrade. Not sweaty optimal, but enough to be a fun ex-free spoiler. Fast enough to keep up with Pika decks. Still waiting for something to help my favorite Nidoking, or slow but fun Melmetal.
Haven't seen enough people talking about non ex Articuno it pairs really well with the rest of the currently relevant water cards especially thanks to Vaporeon I use it for water decks instead of drudd and as a bonus I get to use x speed instead of leaf.
The Nidos had a good matchup against the most popular deck and still do, against mewtu ex. Mythical island helped them with the dragon type tank and the Trainer Leaf because it gives them stall without losing tempo. Thanks to leaf even Nidorino and Nidoqueen can sit in the active spot tanking while you gather energy because Leaf covers their retreat cost. Nidoqueen with 130 darkness attack kills off alot of the meta. It's not a great deck because of weakness to fast (ramp )decks like Pikachu or Highrolling Misty/celebi decks. But it outvalues a lot of slower decks. Stalling opponents are good for the Monarchs because they can scale too and two of them beat any ex and give the same victory points.
I've won 45 games with mostly Marowak wins. I think I'm the rare one here. He is great with Primape and Marshadow. Marowak will be your late game hitter since it is tankier and can hit hard than both Primape and Marshadow. Basically your goal is to have a quick tempo deck that will sweep before the enemy set up
I've had so much fun with Melmetal and Pigeot EX deck. If you think you can't get melmetal up in time, pray you draw the cards for pigeot EX while you stall with them energyless and sweep. Incosistent, but I still win half my games and again very fun. Always will have love for melmetal.
Hitmonlee definitely should be high up on the list. Great early pressure and helps set up a lot of unloseable game states late. Also pressures Magikarp benches and pressures through Druddigon. Such an efficient and unassuming card. I also ran into Blastoise while playing Golem Drudd and it was suprisingly scary!
Marowak was my first deck (due to pulls) but it is currently dead due to how popular Celebi is. How can you counter a basic grass doing x70 twice at turn 2? and more every turn? Golem is the only viable option for rock type now.
Should've mentioned galvantula and the new rapidash. So far my non-surge pikachu EX deck has been performing consistently very well using galvantula over zebstrika. Both of them have situations where they're better but I really do feel like galvantula is comparably as strong as zebstrika for pikachu EX. Never was a hugeeee fan of electrode. 0 retreat cost is nice and all but when you're running 2 x speed and everything is 1 retreat cost it really doesn't come up that often, and it's 70 damage was good but pikachu has a problem with basically being unable to 1 shot anything so electrode putting things in 2 shot range was nice and all, but it didn't stop people from simply retreating their Pokémon after tanking a hit like zebstrika. Galvantula plays a very similar role in pika EX that zebstrika does, but trades off a bit of flexibility for more damage to help you pick up those 2 turn KOs on a far more EX cards than zebstrika will allow. Me personally, I find myself preferring galvantula over zebstrika rn but it could be because it's new and all. Not much needs to be said about the new rapidash and ponyta. They are simply direct upgrades over the ones we have currently and they allow Blaine to pump out even more explosive damages than before for still low energy cost. More consistent damage without Blaine too because the rapidash still does 40 damage base like the old one but gives you the option of doing 100, and the ponyta doing 10 instead of 20 basically makes 0 difference, but the difference between 20 and 40 is quite noticeable.
Something I wish is that double type decks could be viable. I wanna make a Fire Dark deck just so I can use Salazzle and either Muk or Scolipede in the same deck.
How in God's name did Rapidash or Magmar not get mentioned? I was certain that Blane deck was getting the God tier position. It's wildly consistent and with magmar and rapidash dishing out huge damage it's hard to fend off against
For the Aero EX, you can partner it up with the Fenneon or Volcarona since they can aim the backrow, pressuring your opponent to either let their bench be KOes or put it to active. I'm planning for this deck but don't have the core cards 😅
My thoughts about the meta/ some cards: Mythical slab great card with some major drawbacks for me and my Mewtwo decks. I often will run a porygon but only play it if I need to find new 2 or a stage of the gardivore line. Sometimes the card will just sit in your hand and never play it and that’s fine. Sucks if you have to open it though…. Also not a bad idea to run a meowth/ person or even a dreadgaw in your Mewtwo deck. We need a rare candy type card: for those who don’t play the actual card game, the rare candy card will accelerate and basically skip a stage in your evolution for your three stage evolution. Cards pocket is an extremely quick meta-and sometimes it’s way too slow to try to be evolving a three step. Having a card like this will greatly change the meta and allow for a lot more evolution decks Pigiotex/ love love love this card used it at lot when learning to play pocket. I often see it with mewtwo or mew ex decks it’s a really nice alternative wind strategy. Only issue is is that it’s really slow since you have to evolve twice. Hence another reason why the rare candy would be tremendous.
The only deck i genuinely hate playing against is a venasaur deck. As soon as its up and all the heal supporters and item cards are up, its so hard to kill
ive been using Lapras EX/Starmie Ex/Frosmoth and that has been by far my most successful deck. while Lapras isnt deal big damage, it can heal off quite a bit and ive had success sleeping a pokemon then bringing a wounded Lapras EX in to heal damage. big with two Potions, and a decent Misty pull (even one extra energy is a big help). i tend to play really defensive anyway, and ive even played around with Blue here and there and it works. not the greatest, but it can be really successful i've also managed to stall out quite a few different decks with Wigglytuff EX/Fearow/Tauros. worked absurdly well on Charizard and Scolipede decks, and Tauros is there in case i get the pleasure to run into Mewtwo/Mew/Celebi EX. again, since i tend to play very defensive as a normal style, these work well for me. im actually toying with the idea of a Frostuff deck just for the hell of it. this deck isn't much of a world beater though, so im thinking of maybe going Drud instead and have it be a multicolor with Wiggly and Tauros. a lot of options. i think sleep has been somewhat underrated because its 50% chance they cant attack, but man, stalling a Charizard EX even one turn can be a huge help
I’m happy that Druddigon and Marshadow seem to be doing very well. I definitely underrated Druddigon when I first viewed the card but it’s able to perform very well as a well that needs to be beat. And Marshadow is one of my favs.
I did one of the advanced solo Celebi battles with my own Celebi deck and I had 5 energy with Serperior vs Celebi with 3 energy and no Serperior. I flipped 2 heads vs their 3. I’m having a good time 😅
The most ppl play Gengar with just 2x Ex gengar will put it low on the list, however with 2x baby gengar and 1 EX gengsr as Backup combined with siglyphs and mew aswell as tauros (because it’s a cheap deck) gengar actually fits really well in the meta, the problem is none used a variant like that in tournament so it’s officially not as good as it actually is
Been playing a Weezing/Scolipede deck and it feels so much better than Arbok if you have to go first. Either Koffing or Venipede have the option to evolve turn 3 and do damage, which Ekans/Arbok just can’t do.
I’m a little new so I apologize if I am wrong, but from what I’ve experienced, Druddigon isn’t that good enough to be in God tier. Rough skin only does damage if the active pokemon on the enemy side does damage, which is most likely their wall. The opponent could just choose not to attack and focus on building their bench. Drud has 100 hp, so the pokemon on the bench being built are likely to have really powerful attacks and one shot it. Sure, it likely puts one of the opponent’s good Pokemon in one shot range, but it comes at the cost of giving the opponent a point towards winning if your Drud faints. It’s move’s energy also comes from 2 different sources so it’s a little inconsistent, meaning it relies on a bit of luck to even start dealing damage to the opponent’s active Pokemon, and is made worse when the energy used on it could have either powered up your bench Pokemon or will get burnt on retreat. Again, maybe it’s cause I’m new and inexperienced, so I don’t see the value, but I don’t think it deserves to be in God tier. Still a good pokemon, just not God Tier
Time is its greatest value, people really don't want to put their pokemon in one shot range so early in the game and sabrina couldn't even counter it if you have 2 drudds down. Modern TCGs are fast paced especially current Yu-Gi-Oh and this game and drudd single handedly makes people play the game slower that and the fact that it lowers the one hit threshold for everything while making potions essentially useless most of the time is what makes it amazing. Trading 1 prize card for 2 is always a win or even 1 for 1 but you get to KO their already built up pokemon making them lose their energy investment.
@@rin9005 But the way I see it, Drud makes the game slow for both sides, and in a game that is so heavy on bench building, both sides benefit. Imagine if both players had really good Pokémon in their benches and that they were built and ready, but one player has Drud in their active slot. Since Drud is being used defensively, you either hope your opponent is willing to drag out enough turns for you to invest and burn 2 energy for a switch, or you have Drud faint to put their active pokemon in 1 shot range for your switch in (where after you one shot their active Pokemon, they have another good one ready to fight back because of how long it’s been. Both players are +1 in the tally, but both you and your opponent likely have good Pokemon ready.). Tho I do see the benefit now. If the opponent relies HEAVILY on being fast, they are going to have no choice but to attack Drud early and start getting chipped. But from my experience, most people seem to take their time walling and building their bench anyways by putting a tanky Pokemon in the active slot.
So is there a reason why I don't see Jynx used more often in these decks. With Celebi, Mewtwo, and numerous high energy EX Pokemon, it can deal around 70 - 110 damage while only taking up one prize point. Not to mention it's really fun to send out against water Pokemon who got too lucky with their Misty coin flips.
What do you think the best deck in the meta is?
You're the best meta on youtube :)
I’m between gyarados and mewtwo, since both look equally dominant on my matches
Gyrados EX/Starmie/Vaporeon
We need more deck space to build decks we like and to try different things so we don't have to get rid of decks we might not want to
@@spragelsPocket Arcanine mew beats almost every relevant deck except vaporeon gyarados
My main takeaway after the 1st week of weekend tournaments for Mythical Island is that the meta is pretty diverse and that is good for the game and competitive scene.
Totally agree
So glad mew counters mewtwo so well. Really nerfs mewtwo and makes it seems fair to play against
yeah, it's so fun to be able to alternate decks! super glad it's like this
Ima flip a coin to see if I agree with this statement
celeby deck is bit op
Petition to call D tier the Dragonite Memorial Tier.
Good idea
I still run dragonite with pidgeot non ex and get a good win rate. Just constant spam of its ability in the early game plus building dragonite on the bench is a lot of fun. Pikachu kills it so quickly tho.
@@shaneski82 stage 2 mons is like mid game...
I have seen a lot of drugg dragonite decks with a mew ex tech
@@BuNnyDuDeDaRoO with some decent luck and oaks it can be done by turn three for only 2 energy to attack...
Prof Oak and Pokeball remains staple in every deck
Prof Oak is the true God Tier card
@@daniaaal oak Is slightly worse pot of greed from yugioh in this game
@@mattdragon1253 but why both say draw 2 cards
@@hizio880 you can play 2 pot of greed in a turn, you cant play 2 oaks
Yes. Everyone and their moms know that.
Here's a fun fact about Pikachu EX: It hard counters most uses of Mew EX because Mew can't effectively copy Circle Circuit since it specifies that you need Electric Pokemon on your Bench to work.
Only to die to every other EX lmfao and even the mewtwo decks that use it will just swap that into Mewtwo EX instead. Good try though. Pika is not really in thankfully.
@@uiucchemistry2664 This is the case since game released and it's the 2nd most used deck in tournament after m2. Every other deck require a lot of setup while Pikachu is insanely fast so it barely matter if he's weak to other EX's when he can weaken or delete them before they can move.
@@nikunjkhangwal yeah it was the case since the beginning due to Charizard and mewtwo decks keeping pika in check let alone lucky Misty articuno combos killing pika lmfao. My point is now with more new ex mons being introduced and other cards making even off-meta decks relevant there may not be a hard counter to pika other than fighting type decks but other decks don’t struggle hard against it like in the past. Also, pika isn’t the only fast deck around as aggro Blaine easily counters with ninetales Blaine combo requiring little set up where as Pikachu needs a full bench which isn’t guaranteed for the pika players first or second turns not to mention Sabrina exists to make pika players waste an energy to swap pika back in or be lucky and have an x speed in hand to counter. Pikachu EX is strong but it’s low A tier or upper B tier and thankfully no longer S tier. Also Pika EX doesn’t really counter Mew EX lmao because you’re forgetting that they have a budding expeditionist in hand renders that 90 damage useless as Pika isn’t OHKOing it. It’s just that Mew EX can’t beat Pika but Pika can’t reliably kill Mew EX from full hp. Pika is a soft counter to Mew EX not hard counter.
@@uiucchemistry2664 the best counter in the new golem with dugdraigon, jesus that combo majes pikachu deck suffer y you are not able to kill geodude or graveler on time.
"misty articuno combo" if you are lucky, misty articuno wins against any deck in the game, not only pika.
@@uiucchemistry2664
We DESPERATELY need more metal support and love, and a Lance supporter card that summons or enables a dragon type card in your deck to give dragonite some love
I’m here for that lance supporter card!!
Problem with dragons are those shuffled energies
A perfect Lance supporter would be attaching a Dragon energy to a Dragon pokemon similar to what Brock does. That's just my hopes.
@@yojimbojack1350 maybe not allowing to use bench energy that turn. It would unlock dragon's atks on 1 energy decks, like nite on water decks and drud on fire. Would be really cool actually.
@Alex-zr4zp you can play Melmetal right now, it’s lowkey really good.
Btw pro tip: To make it easier to find cards when looking at all your cards, sort it by Type instead of the default Dex# on the bottom right. Doing it by Type mixes both Sets and also sorts by type and pokemon. So it's much easier to find stuff
100% agree Drudd is the meta defining card, I like that it's a passive card though. It's possibly too strong given it's prevalence but you get to make choices around it.
Its cool, because it makes bench hitters good now
I do like what it does to the meta but I think I will get tired of super drawn out stall mirrors lol. So many decks just want to sit behind a wall right now
I remember back in the early Unite days when you would mix up all the Mon at the end of the tier list to make the people that skipped to the end really scratch their heads. You should do that again, it was my favorite part haha
I think the new Rapidash should also be talked about for Blaine decks, it's just a straight up improvement from Genetic Apex Rapidash and it's really strong
@nathiebear not quite, as a main many prefer old rapidash because each are situational, the extra energy cost can hurt when your playing that fast paced. New rapidash is better when you get it set up on the field first and set up your ninetail on the bench after, but you can't set up the new rapidash when you already have a ninetails on the field eating an energy every turn
@Alex-zr4zp I agree, would rather the extra energy go towards something like Charizard on the bench
@FreckledPainter please bro don't be playing rapidash and charizard together, look up the meta deck because they both simply do not synergise
I just want to give some love to you! I think you're doing a really great job, you're putting so much effort into your videos, especially with this community being so new and fresh. We're all having so much fun right now playing this new game and experimenting and stuff a you're contributing a lot to us having an even better experience. Thank you!
Thank you so much!!
Drudiggon is great but I don't think it would be able to perform anywhere near this level without Leaf, so I'd definitely give it to her
@@alchadylan4592 I would respectfully disagree. Leaf adds to Drudiggon but Drudiggon is no where near dependent on Leaf.
@brennenrussell if you aren't running leaf, then your opponent gets to pick when you switch in. That's never good, especially with people running more and more backline targeters
@@brennenrussell Drudd is literally just a different variation of Snorlax without Leaf. His strength lies in the fact that he is a wall that does damage, only takes 2 slots in your deck AND requires no energy. You need Leaf to get the first hit into your oponent after you set up behind Drud. Otherwise you either have to spend energy to retreat it or let your oponent use your drud against you and set up themselves.
@@alchadylan4592It goes both ways though. Especially when you’re done powering up your bench, readying greninja or something along those lines.
Not tiering Ninetales and (old) Rapidash is a crime, I've been taking names all day with my Blaine deck
Grinded quickly through the event using a mew along with blaine, easily covers any mewtwo or charizard deck. That along with the one shot of celebi using ninetails blaine makes it such a counter to any non-water meta deck.
feel like Scoli is being slept on here. Yes its a stage 2 but thats its form of build up, vs other decks needing energy etc. With poison from Whirlipede or Weezing. it ohkos Pika EX, Mewtwo EX, Mew EX, Celebi EX, and with a hit from Weezing it catches a lot more mons. and then running a single Salandit in the deck basically means u have a mini Basic Scoli, that often has the speed advantage to kill or buys time with the damage to shuffle Weezing around or find that evo to Scoli. and the deck doesnt run EX so opponents need 3 points against you. I dont know about anyone else running the list but i genuinely feel like im +80% win rate because the decks only rng is Whirlipede or Weezing draw misses. i got the 50 wins no problem in a few days of grinding after work. the low energy costs really feels like the decks most power point.
The list realtively popular. Salandit not so much since you need to use resources (Koga, Leaf, X speed or energy) for it to do only 50 damage. I would suggest just running farfetchd by that point since it actually does something when drawn turn 1 and it only does 10 less dmg when switched into a poisoned mon. The most popular list i think just runs a single Arbok line.
i like the longer in-depth videos like this. thanks for the content, jake!
My two favourite decks are Dragonite-Drudd and Gyrados-Drudd atm.
Dragonite is super RNG with the attack rolls but it's fun getting 3 points in one turn.
Having 5 aerodactyls and 0 Celebies hits different after this video
I run a Melmetal steel deck, and I would say it's C at best. Melmetal is an amazing defensive wall. Offensive though, it takes way too much set up to get going. Meltan kind of helps with that, but you'll have to start with it going second. Otherwise, you're playing a game of chance. Sometimes by the time it's ready, Meltan took enough damage, and Melmetal don't have the tanky HP you wanted. On the other hand, Bisharp is a neat damage dealing mon. While Mawile is an okay way to prevent active mon set up (And if you can land heads). The pros are nice defensively, but offensively the cons sort of outweigh it. Doesn't help that there's no cards that helps out steel types.
I’ve been having a lot of success w melmetal. Just two meltan, two melmetal, and a chatot. And a bunch of trainer support. You basically either start with Melmetal and start ramping or you start with chatot and cycle your hand away to see your meltans and Melmetals. The deck is super good, and it lines up well into the meta right now.
I have been running a 2 Meltan 2 Mew EX deck with double expeditioner and double Gio. It's kind of good? Not the best deck but certainly the best meltan list i've played. You can set up Mew to threaten their EXs and lead the game to a stalemate and once you get your melmetal set up it's checkmate. Gio is really important so metal can OHKO Celebi and most importantly Mew EX. Also turn 2 meltan gets going really fast (like you said) and it's surprisingly strong against set up decks that use drud to stall.
This is more of a card meta review than deck review. Good video regardless
im not into tcg but im so glad this channel is popping off with this much views ♥️
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
Glad to see you getting views again. You put out good stuff.
Pidgeot EX has won me so many games, even against Celebi and Mewtwo decks. Love it
Same, it’s been my best non-meta deck in the game. Won 8 in a row with it the other night
Glad to see that we think alike on Leaf :D And in a way I agree with Druddigon being meta defining.
I’m actually running a fast grass deck featuring Dhelmise and Serperior specifically to shut down all these stalling nonsense.
Curious where you’d put Alakazam, I love that Pokémon so I’m entitled to play the crap out of it lol
Would the new exeggutor deal extra damage based on energy doubled by surperior ? Cause if so it might counter celebi super hard
@@elidiaz9980 It works with Alakazham in dealing extra damage because of doubled energy from Serp, so it would work with new Exegg.
Hmm I think Gengar is pretty decent for this wave. A lot of decks are relying on Leaf now. Having a Gengar out to prevent them from using it is a huge help. I have a pretty cool Gengar deck I run for fun and it typically wins because my opponent can’t retreat. At lease a C tier. I don’t think he deserves a D.
Love your content btw! I’m here to stay 🙌
Been really liking the Mew/Mewtwo deck combo. Search for Gard while Mew tanks and having trainer to pull it back to hand, blocks a lot and gives a time to build up Mewtwo in the back much better than what it's been before. Plus Mew being a good foil counter copy decks, it's been doing really well. I slot in Blue and Jinx to help fight common decks like Celebi and Mewtwo mirror matches as well.
ngl, Serperior is what makes Celebi meta. Celebi without Serperior, is just an average card- maybe above average.
Not true
I've been trying to use Caterpie in some grass decks. I've had luck with caterpie, Executtor ex, and Venesuar EX deck. Most of the time if you get lucky with the poke balls and draw cards you can have all your pokemon in your hand at turn one. Might not be the strongest but being able to pump out venasuar by turn 2 or 3 is fun.
Tauros, Druddigon and Greninja deck running fire and water energy is shockingly consistent. Tauros is the main attacker, but this deck can use Druddigon as not only a wall, but also as an attacker if needed. Greninja can also attack if needed since it only needs one water and one colorless to attack. Greninja plus Druddigon passive damage makes Tauros one hit any EX. It only has problems against Golem.
I'm using Serperior with new Exeggutor and it does well enough. Main problem is energy of course since you're not always guaranteed to get Serperior on your bench but the moment Exeggutor gets to attack, it can defeat most enemies. I also like having no EX on my deck.
In regards to Venasaur EX, I think it goes MIA simply because of better grass pokemon choices like Celebi EX and Exeggutor (and maybe Dhelmise)
The old egg ex is better more reliable
I'm using aerodactyl + primeape + marshadow, it can beat most decks in a few turns but struggles against mewtwo and Celebi
for me, the deck i brewed with this expansion is diabolical, i use mankey from the promo pack and OG Primeape to take damage and do a consistent 100 all the time, and, as they are a glass cannon, theres always a Marshadow back there... just staring... and i use Aerodactyl EX for their ability and the amber as coverture.
all the decks are easily defeated with this combo, especially Celebi and Charizard... except mew... mew ex deck just kicks your ass every time... BUT THATS ONLY AGAINST MEW, I SWEAR!
Mew on a psychic deck is meant to chip while you set up in the back and draw the cards you need, then you use the explorer support card to retreat it for free, good damage sponge/chipper.
I still really like my Lilligant + Venusar deck. Adding a 1-off Celebi was a big help. It’s a great tank and worthwhile recipient of the extra energy if the Venusaur EX line isn’t coming online
I like the format here! Being able to see each card displayed and discussed is nice for this game in particular. Nicely done and keep up the good work! We see it and appreciate it.
I found a great synergy with greninja, rapidash and druddigon and using the low energy rapidash makes you able to power up druddigon and people are afraid to attack it
I really like how this is a small set makes collecting easier
Running Pidgeot Ex with Weezing has been a blast
This is a God Tier youtuber for Tier Lists
Agreed with putting Druddigon on top. I do think Leaf deserves to stand alongside it however. Leaf really does enable soooo many possibilities by helping 2+ retreat pokemon, Druddigon included. Both cards are on course to being staples in many decks.
(Sorry for long comment) Hey I just tested a custom Surge themed deck (Electabuzz (new) plus Electrode and raichu), so far finding it so fun to play
Basic idea:
1. Electrode can dish out decent early damage to opponent pokemon (especially those not yet fully evolved) and forced them to retreat
2. And since (right now) no one expects it - you can retreat (at no cost), and quickly use surge to move the two energies to Electabuzz and kill the opponent's low hp pokemon he just retreated
3. Electabuzz can continue to weaken fat pokemon (like a powering up Gyarados)
4. Raichu for late game damage
So early, that Gia Gunn hasn't opened the door yet.
Never expected a drag race meme in a pocket video!
This whole tier-list could boil down to “how does it play against Garaydos”
I feel like you can't put drud in S tier without leaf because you need leaf to retreat
Great list. Well articulated
The deck that I've unironically been having the most success with is dragonite with drud + Mew and dual energy
That sounds interesting. Might try that out
Do you have a deck list? Would like to try it myself:) My most successful deck is a grass deck with Celebi, Caterpie, Serperior, and Egg. It’s like two decks in one, because I can hard focus Celebi if I can’t get egg online and vice versa. Have like 90% win rate with it right now.
@dbgt777 1 Mew Ex, 2 Druddigon, 2 copies of the dragonite evolution line, 1 potion, 2 X-speeds, 2 pokeballs, 2 professor's research, 1 budding expeditioner, 2 Leafs.
The goal in most games is to use Mew and druddigon to frontline long enough for you to build up Dragonite and sweep.
Energy is really important in this deck so you can't afford to allocate energy to swapping cards which is why you run 2 x speeds as well as 2 copies of leaf, you'll have games where the only basic pokemon in your hand is a dratini so you want to be able to it them out of the line of fire without wasting any energy.
Mew can tank hits then fully heal by recalling it to your hand with budding expeditioner, this buys you more time to build up dragonite; mew also hard counter charizard and mew two which dragonite can sometimes have trouble dealing with, against those matchups you can power up your mew and one shot the enemy metro before it gets online because mew needs 1 less energy.
The reason this deck works so well is because is not an EX pokemon dispite having power the late game power that rivals one, this means that even in games where your druddigon dies and the enemy manages to take out one of your dragonites, you can still have a mew waiting in the wings to clean up or even a second dragonite.
Is it just me? I never have any problem with my opponent's Mew. I am very rarely in a situation where Mew is the star that wrecks me.
In my case, my mew is the star that wrecks my opponents 😂😂
I have used mew against Mewtwo or celebi and used their own moves against them.
Florges Mew Ex is pretty good btw. It can pivot as a fast deck or stall with mew if youre bricking..
I run 1 Lapras EX, 1 Gyrados EX, 1 Starmie EX, and 2 Vaporeons. I got 45 wins fairly consistently. Lapras is great because the 20 healing helps it survive an extra hit or 2 while you charge up gyrados. By the time it’s ready to switch out, I have a leaf and vaporeon ready to go to easily transfer water energy. Lapras is one of my favorite Pokémon and I tried a lot of combos to make it work. This is the best so far. Articuno may be better, but that 20 healing for Lapras comes in handy way more often than you’d think
I've tried Gyarados EX, several variants of Celebi, Golem (don't have Pidgeot EX yet), and I found the Golem deck to be shockingly consistent and adaptable with multiple win-conditions. If you pull multiple basics, you can choose who to start with by guessing your opponent's deck based on energy. Running 2 Leafs gives you the opportunity to make plays in the early / mid game, especially with Hitmonlee. There is space for a Giovanni to hit the 130 threshold for Celebi and several other EXes, and 150 if the opponent just hit / KO'd Druddigon. Not to mention that since it is an EX-less deck, you can even set up revenge plays with Marshadow.
Yeah i love Golem deck as well
Everybody underrate Pidgeot EX deck
I think the celebi/serp deck works very well with the physic executor. Rarely lose with it :)
I bullied so many celebis with the new exegggutor.. its so good
I really hope they dont add battle/account stats, it wouldnt “change” anything fundamentally but i like not having to see or care about my W/L and using fun decks that dont always win
Serp up to S, gengar down to MIA, other than that perfect tier list mate keep up the good work.
Ive been running marowak primeape and absolutely wrecking most decks. My goal is setup marowak asap and deal as much damage as possible before they can setup
The new Eggxecutor with serperior is by far the best deck combo currently
I think the old egg is better can hit for 80 with 1 energy very good to set up celebi
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Love how Drud was partially or totally underestimated by some people
Gyarados EX is a monster, I got the event badge in a breeze with him, no too many players are using it , too many celebi decks tho
gyarados ex is one of the most used decks right now lol. Celebi has fallen off because people are realizing its attack is not reliable enough and its hp is in range for easy KO by fire decks, gyarados ex, mewtwo ex...
I'm happy when I get Celebi as an opponent. It's just not that great of a deck. Even if they get 5 billion coin flips I can usually set up a good revenge kill
Gyarados EX is trash. It only looks good bc Misty is broken.
@@Pun116 what?! it's so good even with flipping two misty tails.
Gyarados _was_ not too popular. Now I see it every other match up
@@ZenCrypto-ov8zj Nah. It's only trending. That doesn't mean it's good.
Small shout out to Petilil/Lilligant and Dhelmise for being really good support/setup cards for Serperior Decks. Both can stall fairly well in a grass deck while countering certain pokemon or giving a grass energy while also dealing good damage. (Mew gets HARD countered by Dhelmise)
I was having a lot of fun with Muk before the expansion and Scolipede is just a straight up upgrade. Not sweaty optimal, but enough to be a fun ex-free spoiler. Fast enough to keep up with Pika decks.
Still waiting for something to help my favorite Nidoking, or slow but fun Melmetal.
Haven't seen enough people talking about non ex Articuno it pairs really well with the rest of the currently relevant water cards especially thanks to Vaporeon I use it for water decks instead of drudd and as a bonus I get to use x speed instead of leaf.
The fossil+Chatot power up one bulky powerful water like Gyarados or Blastoise I think will become increasingly popular.
The Nidos had a good matchup against the most popular deck and still do, against mewtu ex.
Mythical island helped them with the dragon type tank and the Trainer Leaf because it gives them stall without losing tempo. Thanks to leaf even Nidorino and Nidoqueen can sit in the active spot tanking while you gather energy because Leaf covers their retreat cost.
Nidoqueen with 130 darkness attack kills off alot of the meta. It's not a great deck because of weakness to fast (ramp )decks like Pikachu or Highrolling Misty/celebi decks. But it outvalues a lot of slower decks. Stalling opponents are good for the Monarchs because they can scale too and two of them beat any ex and give the same victory points.
I feel like the only people that I see playing Marowak EX these days, are those players who got fed up playing against Pikachu.
With aerodactyl i would rather play a guaranteed 80 over marowak. Besides golem fighting is in a bad spot because it has the least energy support now.
Or those who just had their very first deck being a marowak deck (like me).
or people trying to use hitmonlee to counter gyarados
I think I rage-boarded _Jolteon_ into my Dragonite deck back in Genetic Apex format because I needed a Water or Elec that could hit like a truck...
I've won 45 games with mostly Marowak wins. I think I'm the rare one here.
He is great with Primape and Marshadow. Marowak will be your late game hitter since it is tankier and can hit hard than both Primape and Marshadow.
Basically your goal is to have a quick tempo deck that will sweep before the enemy set up
so basically still the same boring aggro marowak ex deck with marshadoe added cause its more aggro? aggro players be the most boring of boring
Have you tried aerodactyl ex instead? More consistently hits for 80 and can randomly spoil Blaine and koga decks.
I've had so much fun with Melmetal and Pigeot EX deck. If you think you can't get melmetal up in time, pray you draw the cards for pigeot EX while you stall with them energyless and sweep. Incosistent, but I still win half my games and again very fun. Always will have love for melmetal.
I'll have to try it out!
I have actually found good success with Venusaur ex and Serperior. It beats mewtwo damage line nicely
Hitmonlee definitely should be high up on the list. Great early pressure and helps set up a lot of unloseable game states late. Also pressures Magikarp benches and pressures through Druddigon. Such an efficient and unassuming card.
I also ran into Blastoise while playing Golem Drudd and it was suprisingly scary!
It’s pretty useless if it comes out first IMO, especially if your opponent has a strong starting hand
Where are these tournaments happening/where can I follow the competitive scene?
Can you make a deck tier list? Showing the deck lists
Marowak was my first deck (due to pulls) but it is currently dead due to how popular Celebi is. How can you counter a basic grass doing x70 twice at turn 2? and more every turn? Golem is the only viable option for rock type now.
Should've mentioned galvantula and the new rapidash. So far my non-surge pikachu EX deck has been performing consistently very well using galvantula over zebstrika.
Both of them have situations where they're better but I really do feel like galvantula is comparably as strong as zebstrika for pikachu EX. Never was a hugeeee fan of electrode. 0 retreat cost is nice and all but when you're running 2 x speed and everything is 1 retreat cost it really doesn't come up that often, and it's 70 damage was good but pikachu has a problem with basically being unable to 1 shot anything so electrode putting things in 2 shot range was nice and all, but it didn't stop people from simply retreating their Pokémon after tanking a hit like zebstrika.
Galvantula plays a very similar role in pika EX that zebstrika does, but trades off a bit of flexibility for more damage to help you pick up those 2 turn KOs on a far more EX cards than zebstrika will allow. Me personally, I find myself preferring galvantula over zebstrika rn but it could be because it's new and all.
Not much needs to be said about the new rapidash and ponyta. They are simply direct upgrades over the ones we have currently and they allow Blaine to pump out even more explosive damages than before for still low energy cost. More consistent damage without Blaine too because the rapidash still does 40 damage base like the old one but gives you the option of doing 100, and the ponyta doing 10 instead of 20 basically makes 0 difference, but the difference between 20 and 40 is quite noticeable.
Something I wish is that double type decks could be viable. I wanna make a Fire Dark deck just so I can use Salazzle and either Muk or Scolipede in the same deck.
I've been having a lot of fun with Dragonite thanks to the addition of Druddigon to act as a wall, but it could definitely use some love
How in God's name did Rapidash or Magmar not get mentioned?
I was certain that Blane deck was getting the God tier position. It's wildly consistent and with magmar and rapidash dishing out huge damage it's hard to fend off against
@@Sock1122 Magmar is just a worse Ninetales
@@marcviladotaguaron3306 disagree, I'd say its as good, cause it's a Basic mon
For the Aero EX, you can partner it up with the Fenneon or Volcarona since they can aim the backrow, pressuring your opponent to either let their bench be KOes or put it to active. I'm planning for this deck but don't have the core cards 😅
Drinking game: take a shot every time spragles says "interesting". Try not to die.
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Without leaf, drud wouldn’t be broken, I’d have to give it to leaf
My thoughts about the meta/ some cards:
Mythical slab great card with some major drawbacks for me and my Mewtwo decks. I often will run a porygon but only play it if I need to find new 2 or a stage of the gardivore line. Sometimes the card will just sit in your hand and never play it and that’s fine. Sucks if you have to open it though…. Also not a bad idea to run a meowth/ person or even a dreadgaw in your Mewtwo deck.
We need a rare candy type card: for those who don’t play the actual card game, the rare candy card will accelerate and basically skip a stage in your evolution for your three stage evolution. Cards pocket is an extremely quick meta-and sometimes it’s way too slow to try to be evolving a three step. Having a card like this will greatly change the meta and allow for a lot more evolution decks
Pigiotex/ love love love this card used it at lot when learning to play pocket. I often see it with mewtwo or mew ex decks it’s a really nice alternative wind strategy. Only issue is is that it’s really slow since you have to evolve twice. Hence another reason why the rare candy would be tremendous.
PS. Sorry of spelling is off. I’m using voice to text.
Mew is just a really good tech card in any deck that can counter heavy hitting cards like Mewtwo and charizard and going forward any carda like them
If Golem can succeed than venusaur can be relevant for the same reason the extra healing from Erica is ridiculous at times especially against it. 5:25
I was so excited using druddigon since I love it so much I didn't expect it to be meta.... lol
The only deck i genuinely hate playing against is a venasaur deck. As soon as its up and all the heal supporters and item cards are up, its so hard to kill
Misty + vap is a menace. You can pick any water sweeper and Misty+vap will make it work better. It will be hard to replace the dou
Learned Mew Ex walls Mew Ex pretty well. Used it to stall as a got melmetal and piggiot on line.
I have been playing the chatot + gyarados + fossils decks, It feels really good
I actually still use Wigglytuff EX. - I think it's great. However, that might be bias because it's my favourite evolution line.
ive been using Lapras EX/Starmie Ex/Frosmoth and that has been by far my most successful deck. while Lapras isnt deal big damage, it can heal off quite a bit and ive had success sleeping a pokemon then bringing a wounded Lapras EX in to heal damage. big with two Potions, and a decent Misty pull (even one extra energy is a big help). i tend to play really defensive anyway, and ive even played around with Blue here and there and it works. not the greatest, but it can be really successful
i've also managed to stall out quite a few different decks with Wigglytuff EX/Fearow/Tauros. worked absurdly well on Charizard and Scolipede decks, and Tauros is there in case i get the pleasure to run into Mewtwo/Mew/Celebi EX. again, since i tend to play very defensive as a normal style, these work well for me. im actually toying with the idea of a Frostuff deck just for the hell of it. this deck isn't much of a world beater though, so im thinking of maybe going Drud instead and have it be a multicolor with Wiggly and Tauros. a lot of options. i think sleep has been somewhat underrated because its 50% chance they cant attack, but man, stalling a Charizard EX even one turn can be a huge help
I’m happy that Druddigon and Marshadow seem to be doing very well. I definitely underrated Druddigon when I first viewed the card but it’s able to perform very well as a well that needs to be beat.
And Marshadow is one of my favs.
Agree with the ranking, celebi isn’t all it’s cracked up to be and mew ex is just absurd
With druddigon being so good and most decks can run it, the cards (greninja, hitmonlee, lumineon, zebstrika) that can hit bench are great counter.
The new raichu also has some potential though I haven't been able to find a way to pull it off personally.
I did one of the advanced solo Celebi battles with my own Celebi deck and I had 5 energy with Serperior vs Celebi with 3 energy and no Serperior. I flipped 2 heads vs their 3. I’m having a good time 😅
Articuno with greninja is SCARY, 30 dmg to a bench target? Holy
I've been running Venusaur/Shiinotic with moderate success recently.
The most ppl play Gengar with just 2x Ex gengar will put it low on the list, however with 2x baby gengar and 1 EX gengsr as Backup combined with siglyphs and mew aswell as tauros (because it’s a cheap deck) gengar actually fits really well in the meta, the problem is none used a variant like that in tournament so it’s officially not as good as it actually is
Been playing a Weezing/Scolipede deck and it feels so much better than Arbok if you have to go first. Either Koffing or Venipede have the option to evolve turn 3 and do damage, which Ekans/Arbok just can’t do.
I’m a little new so I apologize if I am wrong, but from what I’ve experienced, Druddigon isn’t that good enough to be in God tier. Rough skin only does damage if the active pokemon on the enemy side does damage, which is most likely their wall. The opponent could just choose not to attack and focus on building their bench. Drud has 100 hp, so the pokemon on the bench being built are likely to have really powerful attacks and one shot it. Sure, it likely puts one of the opponent’s good Pokemon in one shot range, but it comes at the cost of giving the opponent a point towards winning if your Drud faints. It’s move’s energy also comes from 2 different sources so it’s a little inconsistent, meaning it relies on a bit of luck to even start dealing damage to the opponent’s active Pokemon, and is made worse when the energy used on it could have either powered up your bench Pokemon or will get burnt on retreat.
Again, maybe it’s cause I’m new and inexperienced, so I don’t see the value, but I don’t think it deserves to be in God tier. Still a good pokemon, just not God Tier
Time is its greatest value, people really don't want to put their pokemon in one shot range so early in the game and sabrina couldn't even counter it if you have 2 drudds down. Modern TCGs are fast paced especially current Yu-Gi-Oh and this game and drudd single handedly makes people play the game slower that and the fact that it lowers the one hit threshold for everything while making potions essentially useless most of the time is what makes it amazing. Trading 1 prize card for 2 is always a win or even 1 for 1 but you get to KO their already built up pokemon making them lose their energy investment.
drudds attack isn't really relevant 49 out of 50 games.
@@rin9005 But the way I see it, Drud makes the game slow for both sides, and in a game that is so heavy on bench building, both sides benefit. Imagine if both players had really good Pokémon in their benches and that they were built and ready, but one player has Drud in their active slot. Since Drud is being used defensively, you either hope your opponent is willing to drag out enough turns for you to invest and burn 2 energy for a switch, or you have Drud faint to put their active pokemon in 1 shot range for your switch in (where after you one shot their active Pokemon, they have another good one ready to fight back because of how long it’s been. Both players are +1 in the tally, but both you and your opponent likely have good Pokemon ready.).
Tho I do see the benefit now. If the opponent relies HEAVILY on being fast, they are going to have no choice but to attack Drud early and start getting chipped. But from my experience, most people seem to take their time walling and building their bench anyways by putting a tanky Pokemon in the active slot.
So is there a reason why I don't see Jynx used more often in these decks. With Celebi, Mewtwo, and numerous high energy EX Pokemon, it can deal around 70 - 110 damage while only taking up one prize point. Not to mention it's really fun to send out against water Pokemon who got too lucky with their Misty coin flips.
I do wanna say that the new Weezing paired with Hypnos can be really fun