I had previously eyed the Sigma 28 to replace my RF35, which I too feel is a bit too tight for some situations, but the weight and size with the adapter added is a bit much for my taste and use case.
@@philipphill9518 Really my only issue with the Canon ecosystem is that we're seemingly still a long way from having many exciting options. For example, one lens that might be an interesting choice for us would be the Tamron 20-40 f2.8. If it we me and that were available without an adapter, I might trade a bit of light for the added versatility and smaller size.
The RF 15-35 F2.8 is almost mandatory for Canon shooters. It’s such a convenient lens and covers so many different photo disciplines. Why buy 24,28, and 35, when you can get this one lens? Same goes for the 24-70 F2.8. If you price up having multiple lenses, it makes so much sense. Good to see you still coming out with bangers!
I definitely haven't ruled it out forever. I originally went with the 14/35 combo because I could get both for about half of what the 15-35 cost. Now that I'm more in a refinement phase for my bag, I place a lot more value in having both options in one lens... but still not quite enough to pull the trigger on the 15-35 😅
@@DanYosua I’m surprised you haven’t reviewed it yet. I’ve been watching your channel for a while now, and for some reason I thought you already reviewed the 15-35 lol. For a lot of the work you do it might be up your ally, except for the hockey/sports photography. The cost of the RF system sucks and the lack of third party options is disappointing. The great thing about the RF system, is how sharp and professional the lenses are, especially the L series. With lenses like the 15-35, I don’t have to worry about the gear, I just focus on the shot. Don’t get me wrong, you can get the same level of quality with something cheaper and editing software, but what’s that time worth to you?
I've been dying to, hopefully this year. I also really want to try the 14-35 out of curiosity. I really scaled back the freelance work after I took a job in 2022 and broke my leg - it just got too difficult to do it all including rehab after last spring. So I'm totally with ya on the mentality - if I can save time on the actual work or improve the product, I'm a big believer in investing there. But for the moment, the hockey stuff is for fun and I don't have a ton of bandwidth for side photo work. If I were to pick a bunch of those hours back up, the 15-35 starts to look like a no-brainer as I would prefer the zoom for paid stuff.
Just bought it new at B+H for $499. Wanted a tracking MW Pano lens and find the 35mm too tight (too many panels) and 20mm too wide. Just opened the box and haven't used it yet. Thanks for the vid - good job.
What tracker do you use, and is it noob friendly? I've put that off for years not wanting to fall too deep into astro 😅 But sometimes feel I could use a 20mm for single shots. I've liked doing some regular stacks with this, usually 3, 3:2 frames aligned vertically to end up with something like a 1:1 or 4:5 final crop. And $499 is a steal!!
@@DanYosua Recently purchased the MSM Nomad for its ease of use, ruggedness, low cost and low weight. It may be limited for panos according to some. I will find out! New to tracking and my first attempts were great - it was easy to polar align with the laser. I started with my 15 mm Lowea, then tried my RF 35 macro - which I have trouble focusing, then a EF 50 mm macro 1.5 and that worked great. No star trails up to 2 minutes! With that I went for it with a Sigma 105 mm macro - again 2 minutes no trails. Put on the 1.4TC and not sure, it was cold out and clouds were moving in, so not great results. Waiting for clear skies and a little warmer here in upstate NY. I am going to a workshop in Utah in April which will put all this to the test. This 28mm Sigma is a beast thought - just playing with indoor low light shots and I really like what I am seeing. Thanks for the vid. And I would recomend the Nomad for a tracker to get started like I am doing.
@@TLeppur Thanks for such a thoughtful reply. I've heard of that, and will look a bit more into in the spring perhaps. Have a blast on the Utah trip! It's nice and dark out there. I didn't focus on astro, but did get a chance to try the 50 f1.2 there while renting. It's been rare for me to get shots that I like, untracked, at a focal range like that.
This video is the only one that goes into the theory of the prime focal and I’m glad for it. Thinking of selling my 24-70 or at least trade it for a 35 or the 28 as I like it as an interview and b roll lens, tho I know I may miss the longer throw I like the pop of a prime. Idk.
A year and half later and I still haven't switched to 15-35mm because of the cost and aperture. I've come a long way with my milky way shots in the time since this vid 🙈 and have greatly appreciated that f1.4-f2 range. At this point, the likeliest scenario for me is that I run this to the ground with my R6 for all the uses I described, and maybe, finally get the 15-35 when I upgrade bodies. If you're already shooting RF natively, the 28mm pancake is a cheaper way to test what you think you may miss. I used both that and the R8 for about a year, often used that 28mm for a-roll in that time, and still got some great results in low light.
@ thanks for the reply, if I do decide, I don’t think I’ll be dissatisfied as in video, I get multiple focal lengths from the same lens when the crop for using 4K60 hits, I may ultimately just go with the 35 but I appreciate your video as I remember when that 28mm 1.4 came out it was amazing lol.
I really enjoy watching your videos, especially because I have similar wants and needs, with macro (EF100L) and wildlife (RF100-400) being more of a priority for me though. I hope my next purchase for travel photos (RF24-105L) will quell the inner gear acquisition monologue for some time. This, in combination with a fast prime (RF50), should cover most of my bases when traveling and everyday shooting.
Bought this lens "new" (its new but not covered by warranty) on Amazon for less than what people were selling for on Facebook Marketplace. Its absolutely deadly sharp. Such a good lens. My mount is a E and its huge but worth it. Love this lens.
Thanks for the comment, that sounds like a great pickup! It's one of those lenses that exemplifies the pros and cons of the RF mount right now - EF stuff still works really, really well adapted... but the native 3rd party ecosystem is still dead all these years in.
I think that one will be generally pretty popular, but still wish they had a mid tier option. Something weather sealed with a bit better edge to edge image quality for ~$999.
Both the 16 and 24mm models have TERRIBLE distortion to deal with, their 28mm f/2.8 isn't crazy bright, but the image quality is very impressive compared to the price, and even the distortion is not so crazy to push away completely.
My kit is around the R6 + 28-70 F2 (here in Switzerland around 2500euro brand new VS 2100euro for 24-70 2.8). I don't know why so less difference between the two only here. I sold my 24-70 2.8 and 24-105 STM zoomkit. But for travel it is too big and heavy and pricey to carry. I was considering the sigma 24 1.4 for everything and daily usage (i have the rf 16 and 50 very small ones with me most of the time), and even the ef 24mm 1.4L mark ii second hand. But finally I'm waiting the rf 28mm 2.8 true pancake.... And only for the form factor, and also cheaper than the sigma 24... I kept the RP and i think i can put RP+28 pancake in my poket
Thanks for taking the time to comment! It's interesting to hear from 28-70 owners and what you use in circumstances where the 28-70 stays behind. It's rare that I'm able do this given that the channel is still pretty small, but I was able to place a preorder for the 28mm pancake with the channel earnings from the last few months. Not sure if I'll keep it for all the reasons I like this Sigma (weather sealed, image quality, etc.). BUT, I'm really excited to take the battery grip off, pop on the pancake, and carry it around everywhere for a long term test. I miss carrying the the RP + nifty around everywhere... and it sounds like that RP + 28 combo will be a great everyday carry for you.
Wish more sigma lenses had IS built-in. My lenses have to pull double duty for photo and video and lens IS is a must for when using R5C. Also, Canon sucks for blocking 3rd party lenses AND not filling out their own lineup faster. I would love that Tamron 35-150.
Ahh yeah I can imagine, I forget about the R5C when thinking through some of these things, but that does limit your options even a bit more. For someone who is finally feeling pretty settled with my entire kit a few years into photography, I'm disappointed with Canon's current options. I feel like they really left a massive gap in the middle with no urgency to fill it out.
Yeah there was a lot on steep discount. Apparently 2024 is supposed to be a big RF lens year. I won't believe it until I see it, but maybe we start getting some ii's of some of the popular lenses.
@rivergate950 it might not be next year, but I think some lenses sorta fall into that ~5yr cycle. In Canon’s case, to your point, they’re great. So I’d expect them just to marginally slim down the form factor, probably keep the original msrps, and let the mark i’s have the consistent markdowns. And given their most recent designs, probably reasonable to expect those function buttons on L lenses moving forward? But just guesses.
24mm, 28mm, or 35mm? Why?
I had previously eyed the Sigma 28 to replace my RF35, which I too feel is a bit too tight for some situations, but the weight and size with the adapter added is a bit much for my taste and use case.
@@philipphill9518 Really my only issue with the Canon ecosystem is that we're seemingly still a long way from having many exciting options. For example, one lens that might be an interesting choice for us would be the Tamron 20-40 f2.8. If it we me and that were available without an adapter, I might trade a bit of light for the added versatility and smaller size.
Definitely one of my favorite channels on TH-cam!
Thanks, I'll keep em coming!
The RF 15-35 F2.8 is almost mandatory for Canon shooters. It’s such a convenient lens and covers so many different photo disciplines. Why buy 24,28, and 35, when you can get this one lens? Same goes for the 24-70 F2.8. If you price up having multiple lenses, it makes so much sense. Good to see you still coming out with bangers!
I definitely haven't ruled it out forever. I originally went with the 14/35 combo because I could get both for about half of what the 15-35 cost. Now that I'm more in a refinement phase for my bag, I place a lot more value in having both options in one lens... but still not quite enough to pull the trigger on the 15-35 😅
@@DanYosua I’m surprised you haven’t reviewed it yet. I’ve been watching your channel for a while now, and for some reason I thought you already reviewed the 15-35 lol. For a lot of the work you do it might be up your ally, except for the hockey/sports photography. The cost of the RF system sucks and the lack of third party options is disappointing. The great thing about the RF system, is how sharp and professional the lenses are, especially the L series. With lenses like the 15-35, I don’t have to worry about the gear, I just focus on the shot. Don’t get me wrong, you can get the same level of quality with something cheaper and editing software, but what’s that time worth to you?
I've been dying to, hopefully this year. I also really want to try the 14-35 out of curiosity. I really scaled back the freelance work after I took a job in 2022 and broke my leg - it just got too difficult to do it all including rehab after last spring. So I'm totally with ya on the mentality - if I can save time on the actual work or improve the product, I'm a big believer in investing there. But for the moment, the hockey stuff is for fun and I don't have a ton of bandwidth for side photo work. If I were to pick a bunch of those hours back up, the 15-35 starts to look like a no-brainer as I would prefer the zoom for paid stuff.
Just bought it new at B+H for $499. Wanted a tracking MW Pano lens and find the 35mm too tight (too many panels) and 20mm too wide. Just opened the box and haven't used it yet. Thanks for the vid - good job.
What tracker do you use, and is it noob friendly? I've put that off for years not wanting to fall too deep into astro 😅 But sometimes feel I could use a 20mm for single shots. I've liked doing some regular stacks with this, usually 3, 3:2 frames aligned vertically to end up with something like a 1:1 or 4:5 final crop. And $499 is a steal!!
@@DanYosua Recently purchased the MSM Nomad for its ease of use, ruggedness, low cost and low weight. It may be limited for panos according to some. I will find out! New to tracking and my first attempts were great - it was easy to polar align with the laser. I started with my 15 mm Lowea, then tried my RF 35 macro - which I have trouble focusing, then a EF 50 mm macro 1.5 and that worked great. No star trails up to 2 minutes! With that I went for it with a Sigma 105 mm macro - again 2 minutes no trails. Put on the 1.4TC and not sure, it was cold out and clouds were moving in, so not great results. Waiting for clear skies and a little warmer here in upstate NY. I am going to a workshop in Utah in April which will put all this to the test. This 28mm Sigma is a beast thought - just playing with indoor low light shots and I really like what I am seeing. Thanks for the vid. And I would recomend the Nomad for a tracker to get started like I am doing.
@@TLeppur Thanks for such a thoughtful reply. I've heard of that, and will look a bit more into in the spring perhaps. Have a blast on the Utah trip! It's nice and dark out there. I didn't focus on astro, but did get a chance to try the 50 f1.2 there while renting. It's been rare for me to get shots that I like, untracked, at a focal range like that.
Fantastic video as always, Dan.
Thank ya!
This video is the only one that goes into the theory of the prime focal and I’m glad for it. Thinking of selling my 24-70 or at least trade it for a 35 or the 28 as I like it as an interview and b roll lens, tho I know I may miss the longer throw I like the pop of a prime. Idk.
A year and half later and I still haven't switched to 15-35mm because of the cost and aperture. I've come a long way with my milky way shots in the time since this vid 🙈 and have greatly appreciated that f1.4-f2 range. At this point, the likeliest scenario for me is that I run this to the ground with my R6 for all the uses I described, and maybe, finally get the 15-35 when I upgrade bodies.
If you're already shooting RF natively, the 28mm pancake is a cheaper way to test what you think you may miss. I used both that and the R8 for about a year, often used that 28mm for a-roll in that time, and still got some great results in low light.
@ thanks for the reply, if I do decide, I don’t think I’ll be dissatisfied as in video, I get multiple focal lengths from the same lens when the crop for using 4K60 hits, I may ultimately just go with the 35 but I appreciate your video as I remember when that 28mm 1.4 came out it was amazing lol.
I really enjoy watching your videos, especially because I have similar wants and needs, with macro (EF100L) and wildlife (RF100-400) being more of a priority for me though.
I hope my next purchase for travel photos (RF24-105L) will quell the inner gear acquisition monologue for some time. This, in combination with a fast prime (RF50), should cover most of my bases when traveling and everyday shooting.
Pairing either of the 24-105's with a fast prime in the middle should have you feeling much more prepared if nothing else.
Bought this lens "new" (its new but not covered by warranty) on Amazon for less than what people were selling for on Facebook Marketplace. Its absolutely deadly sharp. Such a good lens. My mount is a E and its huge but worth it. Love this lens.
Thanks for the comment, that sounds like a great pickup! It's one of those lenses that exemplifies the pros and cons of the RF mount right now - EF stuff still works really, really well adapted... but the native 3rd party ecosystem is still dead all these years in.
Canon came out with an RF 24mm f1.8! Macro and same build as the 35mm!
I think that one will be generally pretty popular, but still wish they had a mid tier option. Something weather sealed with a bit better edge to edge image quality for ~$999.
Both the 16 and 24mm models have TERRIBLE distortion to deal with, their 28mm f/2.8 isn't crazy bright, but the image quality is very impressive compared to the price, and even the distortion is not so crazy to push away completely.
My kit is around the R6 + 28-70 F2 (here in Switzerland around 2500euro brand new VS 2100euro for 24-70 2.8). I don't know why so less difference between the two only here. I sold my 24-70 2.8 and 24-105 STM zoomkit.
But for travel it is too big and heavy and pricey to carry.
I was considering the sigma 24 1.4 for everything and daily usage (i have the rf 16 and 50 very small ones with me most of the time), and even the ef 24mm 1.4L mark ii second hand.
But finally I'm waiting the rf 28mm 2.8 true pancake.... And only for the form factor, and also cheaper than the sigma 24...
I kept the RP and i think i can put RP+28 pancake in my poket
Thanks for taking the time to comment! It's interesting to hear from 28-70 owners and what you use in circumstances where the 28-70 stays behind.
It's rare that I'm able do this given that the channel is still pretty small, but I was able to place a preorder for the 28mm pancake with the channel earnings from the last few months. Not sure if I'll keep it for all the reasons I like this Sigma (weather sealed, image quality, etc.). BUT, I'm really excited to take the battery grip off, pop on the pancake, and carry it around everywhere for a long term test. I miss carrying the the RP + nifty around everywhere... and it sounds like that RP + 28 combo will be a great everyday carry for you.
Wish more sigma lenses had IS built-in. My lenses have to pull double duty for photo and video and lens IS is a must for when using R5C. Also, Canon sucks for blocking 3rd party lenses AND not filling out their own lineup faster. I would love that Tamron 35-150.
Ahh yeah I can imagine, I forget about the R5C when thinking through some of these things, but that does limit your options even a bit more. For someone who is finally feeling pretty settled with my entire kit a few years into photography, I'm disappointed with Canon's current options. I feel like they really left a massive gap in the middle with no urgency to fill it out.
15-35mm 2.8 refurb on black friday I think was $1800, save up for next year.
Yeah there was a lot on steep discount. Apparently 2024 is supposed to be a big RF lens year. I won't believe it until I see it, but maybe we start getting some ii's of some of the popular lenses.
@@DanYosua that would be surprisign, they are so damn good already, what could version ii improve on?
@rivergate950 it might not be next year, but I think some lenses sorta fall into that ~5yr cycle. In Canon’s case, to your point, they’re great. So I’d expect them just to marginally slim down the form factor, probably keep the original msrps, and let the mark i’s have the consistent markdowns. And given their most recent designs, probably reasonable to expect those function buttons on L lenses moving forward? But just guesses.