How the World Scout Jamboree Turned into a Jambo DUMP
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- The 2023 World Scout Jamboree ended as a $250 million dollar disaster for South Korea, but the drama and finger pointing has only begun. Why did this idyllic camping trip for 43,000 scouts take such a morbid turn? Were there signs that this could happen or was mother nature the culprit? Moreover, must we finally admit that these events have been hijacked by political cartels who raid the budget instead of delivering on promises?
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For sure Busan wont be able to get the World Expo2030 after this, the reputation that was partly built up by BTS of Korea was completely ruined.
It occurred because the government didn’t value enough BTS . It made the guys perform free of charge to attract the global attention to the country as a potential place for expo, and at the same time didn’t find enough reasons to exempt them. Boomerang😊
It doesn't look good for Busan.
My daughter was part of the UK contingent at the jamboree. The main reason she went was to meet people from all over the world but unfortunately she spent almost the whole three weeks in Seoul with the same few people she travelled there with. Whilst there were some great experiences these did not make up for what was supposed to happen and we are hugely disappointed for her. We paid thousands of pounds for her to visit shopping malls and eat in fast food restaurants.
Don’t you just love a crystal clear analysis from Sean? Don’t you ever leave us!
Yes, don't!
I’ve been waiting for you to help me understand this.
Sean, we need more videos from You! Your analysis is always spot on! We miss You! 💜
Commenting from Lisbon, we've just hosted the World Youth Day 2023, where 1.5 million youngsters, plus their chaperones, took over Lisbon from August 1st to the 6th. (during a heatwave, where temperatures reached 40ºC + )
Millions were spent. A special stage was built, zones were requalified, Airbnbs, hotels, motels, Youth hostels, every spare room in (volunteering) host family houses was made available to accommodate those who attended.
Thousands of local volunteers gave up a week of there summer holidays to help guide and care of our visitors.
Local businesses offered reduced price menus, discount codes to enter our tourist attractions were issued etc, etc, etc...
Were the locals inconvenienced, yes!
Did we complain, no (not until it ended).
Why, because we're proud of being recognised as great hosts, proud of our country, proud of what we have to offer. Proud of being known as a country that can organise such big events.
Politics aside, at least until it ended, (no-one likes to go to a dinner party only to witness the hosts bickering or airing dirty laundry at the dinner table in front of their guests).
... And guess where the Pope announced the next World Youth Day (2027) event will be held ... Seoul.
Good luck, you have big shoes fill after we put on such a great event!!! 👏🏻👍🏻😜
Also, wanted to say so glad you’re back and hope you’re all setup at home and all is running smoothly! We all missed you a lot! Now you can go back to giving us all the updates on what’s happening!
BTS did not request the exemption law. The other entertainment companies did!
Correct they always said many many time they'd serve as well.
Thank you Sean for giving us a clearer knowledge about what happened in this failed event.
It's a wonder that none of the scouts became deathly ill. Also glad your back.
Isnt it kind of embarrassing, that even the president thinks, that South Koreas entire reputation and glory is laying on the shoulders of a fricking boy pop group?
Those poor kids. I feel so bad their Jamboree was a dump.
This is crazy the level of corruption is ridiculous.
These Jamborees are really important. Kids live for this.
The money that funded the jamboree was from the scouts it was still mismanaged but was not Korean taxpayers money.
This event should have been treated and designed with the same amount of gravity, planning, and implementation as The Olympics was. Hotel accommodations, dorm accommodations, catered meals, the event held in Seoul, individual events in stadiums, arenas, or on available campus sites, indoor areas with available AC, restaurant vouchers, food vendors, merchandise and souvenir booths, hotel and dorm shuttle services and taxi services, medic tents and ambulances available, at least 2000 portable toilets throughout the event areas that would be routinely cleaned.. these are just a few things that were coming to mind while watching this video.
And that's not even including money to be spent on the actual Jamboree.
I'm glad you're back!! I hope you're able to talk openly with more freedom now that you're back home 😉 And I hope your parents are doing well 🙏🙏🙏
It’s was a nightmare for our kids indeed…here in the UK the organisation has to fork another 1 million pounds from their own pockets to bring back the kids safely…parents were fuming since some kids became sick…SK gov should take responsibility as we all need answers
Thank you for helping us to understand what happened. I was waiting for this video because I know you would do a good job investigating this disaster. I love Korea and Kpop and honestly, I was angry that a few people that didn’t do their job tarnished S. Korea’s image this way. Kpop and their artists usually are viewed as second class artists, not respected as classical music artists but then, when these politicians need to save face, then they call Kpop artists to save the day. That was so wrong! These politicians should’ve called all classical music artists that received exemptions from the military enlistment for years to do the show for these kids instead of kpop artists that don’t receive these privileges. I always thought that Kpop artists deserve exemptions from military enlistment. Of course not every group but groups or artists recognized globally, they deserved to be exempted from military enlistment. To mention a few; Rain, Big Bang, Super Junior and BTS, these Kpop artists should’ve been exempted because they contributed to bring Kpop to the world. I hope that in the future, Kpop artists are recognized as artists that bring honor to S. Korea as well as any classical music artists.
Sean....."they can use the toilet outside'! omg, lol. What a total mess, feel bad for the kids. Can South Korea host any huge event/venue other than BTS, oh if I'm not mistaken they (government officials) messed that up too! the big international BTS concert out in the boonies.
I'm getting so triggered hearing those ridiculous amounts of money per kid per day?? where that money go??? who stole it??? fcking politicians have no shame istg
Happy to hear the full and honest details of what happened
..Better believe the World Expo committee is watching .. I have doubts SK will be chosen now!! OPPORTUNITY LOST!☹️
Interesting, Sean, as always ......isn't it interesting to you to see that whether you are in SK or USA, corruption reigns supreme.......glad to see you again 💜
But in America it’s hidden well because every step is taken to make sure no disaster happens 😅 but yes corruption reigns high.
Are they going to investigate where did the money go? or everything will be swept under the rug ?
Whenever there are debacles, people remember the negatives. I'm hoping people remember that local Koreans stepped up when public figures failed to effectively plan for this international event.
Omg, I didn’t know this happened. I was a Girl Scout and I always wanted to go but never made it. Yes money can be the villain
im so glad you are back!! im still waiting for sjm father's interview
Didnt the Sth Korean Govt. use BTS to promote Busan For the future Olympics. In the end didn't BTS pay for a chunk of that concert because the Venues were not safe for the fans. BTS is constantly doing everything whatsoever ever rhey can to Promote South Korea. They have introduced me to the culture, food and history of South Korea. OT7. Borahea 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜 💜
It was for the World EXPO buisness/techinology event not the Olympics event. I went to one many years ago when Germany hosted it and I flew over from the UK with other members of the company I then worked for. As expected it was extremely well organised.
Hi I'm a scout from germany and i was at the jamboree . A lot went wrong but I still had a great time there
It was really chaotic and those problems were fatal but we went through it together and it also brought us together in some kind of way . I found great friends and learned a lot about different cultures
It sounded disorganised on all aspects . I took 5 young adults from the UK to Seoul 5 years ago and I just left them to it and jumped ship as even though I organised everything absolutely no one appeared to have any maturity and they were like toddlers. So now I go it alone. When I was in Seoul in July this year - someone in a Korean Travel Group on Facebook ( only time I use it when in SK ) posted they were taking 43 kids (not young adults ) to Seoul for the Jamboree and they were enquiring about sightseeing , things to do, the weather , where to eat, transport etc. To me it seemed like they were under prepared before they left the UK. I remember saying what if the weather is like last year and how are you are going to cope if it rains for days or is just blistering hot and they really had no idea of a contigency plan for anything . I was scared for them and seems I had ever right to be skeptical. I thought the Scout Leaders assumed a great deal would be done for them by the organisers - so they were almost acting like the Scouts and there was no one adulting beforehand.
This was so sad. The Korean government officials did not the appropriate things in place for this International Event😢😢😢😢😢. In the end, the children suffered. 😢😢😢
Great video! Only thing is, each scout paid about $6,100 for the jamboree (Fees include air and ground transportation, the Jamboree fee, pre-tour, insurance, and a Jamboree “kit” of patches, neckerchiefs and other contingent memorabilia), so the initial jamboree budget wasn’t completely from Korean tax dollars, right? It was only after the jamboree was cancelled due to the typhoon that the government had to provide for emergency lodging & services, alternative activities. Even though it started as a Fyre Festival type disaster, seems like many of the scouts ended up having a great time, going to soccer games, concerts, tourist sites, etc
Thank you for sharing this 💜
I saw so many people get upset at the Fyre Festival comparisons saying it wasn’t that bad. I am now convinced that it is because the US did not get the full extent of what happened. I now understand why the Jamboree was compared to the Fyre Festival. American parents paid over $3000 to send their children to this Jamboree. I would argue that their living and sanitary conditions were worse than the Fyre Festival. I do wonder if this experience will deter parents from allowing their children from participating moving forward.
I mean some countries didn't get food, and apparently only got food from SK locals. Orga didn't know people did not come in the first place, imagine a flooding from the typhon and firefighters etc putting their life in danger to search for people who were not even there, it was bad BAD.
I bet this ruins Busan’s chances to get the World Expo in 2030.
There have been 25 events and I have never heard of this? I am shocked
I was a participant at this Jamboree and I’ve been watching your videos for a while so this was especially interesting to watch
I was waiting for your reportage about this case! 감사합니다!
These kids travelled across the world, because they believed in the scouts' movement and the promises they had made at an early age about helping people and to never let anyone down. They were let down themselves, in an ugly way, by grownups who thought of their own interests and didn't check the situation they were going to be confronted with in this place. The fact of how well they did, how they survived and didn't give up should make each of the countries involved proud of these wonderful and brave young people.
I've missed you. Glad you are here.
Thank you for making some sense of this mess!
My daughters Scout-Team from Germany was there
As always, Sean has the goods!!!! I'm betting Busan is out of the running and becomes just tough luck and no ones fault. Glad we have your clear voice! Thanks!
As soon as I heard about it I thought of the infamous Busan concert. Corruption, graft, incompetency. It's like a K drama except it's reality.
omg I wanna vomit?? those poor kids had to use that as toilets??? the litterbox for my cat looks clean like a hospital in comparison wtf is that???
I've been waiting for you Sean .Missed your videos 🎉🎉So interesting as ever .GOODNIGHT FROM GREECE 🇬🇷 ❤❤❤ 🎉🎉
Hi Sean,thank you for properly covering this.I personally feel that every situation is being over used for political gain.
When it all breaks down to baby kissers on the election trail,once elected destroy our children ❤
Always love to watch Sean's view on things you always get the real story, take care Sean, love you❤
When I first heard of this situation , I immediately thought of the crappy planning for the BTS concert on the beach There was poor planning & underestimated public concerns there as well as in Itewon. They have already lost that bid for 2030. Three strikes, you are out! I hate to see that but it is clear that the S. Korean government officials are not ready for such an influx of people. I do believe in following the money whether in the US or SK. The damn nerve of the President suggesting BTS entertain these kids when the kids didn’t have the necessities. Like food, cleanliness and a place to cool off knowing there was a heat wave. These kids are not stupid and neither is BTS. Like, oh let's unhook our IVs and go to a concert! If it quacks like a duck, it’s a duck and there are a lot of “ducks” wh😂o worked on this project on the take and should be held accountable. Korea is a beautiful country and I hope the kids were able to salvage their trip. No doubt the participants certainly learned something……for sure. So glad to hear from you again…
@Sean - You said it wasn't President Yoon's fault or responsibility, but it was. Yoon was the one that disbanded the Ministry for Women & Family that was supposedto organize the event. Yoon was and is responsible. Such a disgrace. If he eliminated the Ministry Yoon should have made sure all of their projects and contractual agreements had qualified teams to take over the responsibilities and not let corrupt politicians threaten the safety and lives of the attendees.
Also, the Korean media spent a lot of time talking about the Jamboree's impact on higher income countries like the U.S. abd Britain. What about scouts from less wealthy countries? The amount of money they had to put in to attend the Jamboree was probably more of a financial hit then the wealthier scouts. I'm so upset that they came all the way to Seoul for such a horrible, disappointing experience.
An ex Baden Powell Girl Guide is confused considering survival and organisational skills required especially for leaders.
I went on CAMP a few times in the 90s and there was always a reasonable fee....not too cheap not too expensive... probably for ground rent, huts, tents, toilets, food, water, supervision, staff, cleaners etc. Whatever is required as per each unit who may or may not have tents etc.
By the way, I was already missing you and your comments my dear Sean
Im so glad your back!
Very interesting report! What an eye-opening information.
Is South Korea so expensive that you have to pay $300 dollars plus for camping. That is really sad
I heard that some parents spent $9000 for their child to go.
@@charzemc passport, visa, airplane tickets ... better stay in 5 star hotel for that amount @_@
Yay, I knew you would come through on this story. I was watching it unfold and knew we needed a thorough breakdown from you afterwards! 💜 So firstly, I want to say I don't get the whole tent thing. Honestly, if I'm going to a foreign country, esp for the first time, I want to be in a hotel with good accommodations, okay? Sorry not sorry I'm a city girl. Secondly, the WIFM for any worker involved, esp govt officials, is keeping your job and not getting fired! Is there no accountability? I would expect some top level govt officials to be held accountable for this, although I get what you're saying about the decision to do this event came from the previous administration. Thirdly, what I have noticed since hearing about some Korean tragedies in recent years (since the ferry disaster), it seems like it's maybe issues with infrastructure not being at the level it needs to be at to handle these things that take place. Like all countries have their strengths and weaknesses, and obviously here in the US, we have plenty of our own weaknesses in public safety sector like gun violence, etc. And Korea is a relatively young democracy so is the general infrastructure a contributing factor? Maybe. Anyway, I look at it on a macro level like that. Hopefully, no large corruption is involved here as that would be so disappointing when the safety of children was involved. Thanks Sean for this video!
the tent thing is ok though, these are scouts, but all the other stuff was catastrophic, including the choice of the site
Thank you for the thourough investigation and your clear words. My daughter was part of the German kontingent.
You‘re right about the meaning of the Jamboree (and it‘s ceremonies) for the scouts on their way to adulthood, Especially after the pandemic related restrictions in their teen years.
Even the things that seem to be easy to oranize were messy. A huge part of scouts (like my daughter’s unit) were bound to miss the closing ceremony standing outside, waiting 2 hours outside before being seated! Or wait until all scouts were seated. It was very visible for the organizers (and in the videos) because there were a lot of groups still led to their seats when the Scout Promise that is supposed to be sworn together and the handing over of the flag was done and the farewell speech was held. At least it could habe been broudcasted for the waiting..And that in favour for a K-Pop-concert? ??? The concert is referred to as compensation in a lot of channels - a k-pop concert with surprise artists was supposed to take place on the Cultural Exchange Day at the Jamboree anyways. The opening ceremony couldn’t be artended by all, since there was not enough space…..
Just heartbreaking that the organizers destroyed the once in s lifetime event of feeling the strong community of the Jamboree-participants during their ceremonies.
That’s why parents/families made sacrifices to have their kid participating.
I‘m growing an allergie to K-Pop
Thanks, I can so much identify with what you are saying.
😮US scouts spent between $6-7k
Thank you for coming back😢
Always look forward to your videos to see the real news on Korea!!
I love the deep insights given to us everytime you upload a video...thank You for keeping us informed and involved❤...much luck for your channel
Thank God BTS enlisted of their own free will! This politician proved that the only reason they wanted BTS to be exempt is so that the boys would be free to be used as and when politicians wanted 😂 talk about laying your card on the table for all to see
Completely agree with you.
I think now the World Cup will think twice or more to consider SKorea to host the most watched sports.
You explain well, thank you!
Fyre Festival vibes 🔥 🤠
They've basically made a kid version of Fyre Festival.
Thank the almighty God someone has addressed this issue. Where in the US can I order some authentic kimchi? I'm on the East Coast. My experience with kimchi has not been pleasant!
They were hoping that using K-POP would smooth this mess over.
From what has been stated by former Korean scouts there were fact finding trips taken to countries that NEVER had a jamboree in their country.
This should show the committee that is deciding if Busan should get the world Expo in 2030!💜
Ps so glad you are back!
I agree. How they will manage thst big expo in 2030 without real change? This is just lack of care.
My thoughts exactly about Busan 2030! Sean has an episode about how the BTS concert for that was also nearly disastrous until plans were changed due to public outrage.
@@secretadmirer5006 it didn't turn disastrous only, because BigHit said we will organize it, and they also had to pay for the concert themselves. Public in this also means ARMY mostly. Not sure other public as aware how bad this was planned.
@@secretadmirer5006 BigHit ended paying for it in the end. BTS did if for free and their company had to save the day and pay for everything.
Hi
Its nice to see u again
Its been awhile miss yr amazing analysis on this event
Love u
Going back on to listen to rest of what happen to the jamboree
I was upset that they let this happen
Keep doimg this amazing reporting
Thx u soo much
I really appreciate u 💜💜💜💜💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍💕
SK gov officials speciality is always blaming each other and then sweep the responsibility underneath the carpet .
Girl scout selling diabetic cookies! I hollered. I'm diabetic. Funny
I'm seeing why the US and UK dropped out of the jamboree event. My suspicions were correct-this had money grab written all over it!! The other countries that participated should come up with ways to get their money back as well.
In Lisbon, in August 2023, The next Catholic World Youth Celebrations was announced to be held in Seoul in 2027
Your contents are always informative..👍👍
I hope the guys are okay now and I hope they were involved in this mess
You were able to participate in a K-POP concert, so that's fine.
It was a precious experience for you to participate in a K-POP concert in Korea.
And BTS members have not used the exemption law.
Not exemption law it's a extension law eg instead of having to sign up for military service by the age of 28years the exemption is now 30years of age but only BTS members qualify as they are the only Kpop artists who hold the Cultural Merit Award. However they didn't ask for and haven't used it.
I wonder what would happen if other countries start to Say No to SK when comes to big events?
wow it cost almost $6000 australia dollars thats like 4000 usd
Random but can you do a video on KCON? Supposedly Rain got a black ocean. I'm not sure what's going on.😮
Hi Sean, I was wondering what you think about the Fifty Fifty case just featured on SBS' Unsolved Mysteries. There's similar elements of accounting shenanigans, mediaplay, and now there's backlash from ppl interpreting the show was shading BTS. Public opinion seems divided between int'l fans (supportive of the girls) and the Korean public and I'm wondering why.
I’d risk heat stroke to see Jhope. Not even lying.
10k more showed up than planned. Plus a major heat wave and typhoon. Recipe for disaster. The 1000 buses with ac helped. Also moving all to other housing. It would have been a lot worse if these disaster measures were not taken.
😮 Im just like WOW! Im amazed at the leaders of the Boy Scouts being so lax. Its not like the Boy Scouts are newbies at putting on a Jubilee 🤦♀️ The Korean Government might be newbies when it comes to Scouting but THE SCOUTING association knows better. Moreover, who was in charge of coordinating between the SCOUTS and providing facilities?
AS a daughter of a LONG LONG line of family scouters, I place blame on the SCOUTING association. I know how Scouting works, or should work, ie. My Son has his Eagle. And I was a Cub Master for a little while.
The Government or the facilities providing services might have botched things, but the Scouting Association has the responsibility of following through and making sure the amount of toilets are provided, or the food is not expired, the TOP Scout Leaders of the Jubilee failed to be Leaders.
This is just..... WOW 😮
So unfortunate for SK..& with all SK has that’s great..SMH🤔 w/ 6 years to plan it..Wow EPIC FAIL!!!
Missing your Videos with your wonderful researching on political decisions. Or these kinds of your opinions. ❤
What do u think about that korean society should be homogenous, thats why they came so far and the kor army allows now foreign soldiers. Advantage or Disadvantage or just your opinion. ❤
Didn't the SK's president's mother-in-law get detained recently.
The 2D1N(last week 3D2N) production crew can do a WAY better job with that budget, heck, half of that budget. They should have called Na PD to be the organizer.
annyeonghaseyo Seanssi
Hell, I don't think so.
I have missed you so much Sean, but I definitely understand the responsibility of taking care of your parents in their golden years and I applaud you for being such a great son.
I don’t have much else to comment since there have been a lot of comments already that have said it for me, I will say that when I heard about this the Busan Expo did come to mind, and yet again let’s use BTS to save face, even thought we don’t think they are worth a military exemption, it was kind of a slap in the face to BTS to even be asked to do this, so glad the did not take part in this, but nice they did send photo cards for the kids, I’m glad that in the end they did have a bit of fun and there wasn’t any one severely hurt.
I 2nd the comment about you never leaving us Sean. Hope all is well with you and your family. Take care. Borahae💜
See why I was telling the truth
Cuz I know you would tell them the truth
But now how will it go for the Catholic World Youth Celebrations to be held in South Korea????
Making me think of the initial government plan to have BTS perform free on a Korean beach with no amenities and inadequate access. This is crazy. Many years ago my brother went to an international Boy Scout jamboree. It was in Valley Forge. It was fun for the scouts exchange cultural crafts and get to mingle. Sorry to hear this story of this disaster. Thanks to tell the story
子供たちがかわいそうでたまりません、原因究明をお願いします
できれば、日本開催時に参加させたかった
After the expirience with World Scout Jamboree 2023 it will be interesting how the next catholic world youth day in Korea will be managed with hundreds of thousand partizipants.
Reminder- BTS has already helped to get the World Expo to Busan- they gave a free concert before they started to enlist.
I say the I'm sorry but the sports and entertainment for that is kind of getting sloppy
Also can you discuss on your video about both JYP and YG join in Hybe Company on business call 'Forest Factory, Also I heard some rumors about 'Scooter Braun left Hybe or
Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande left
Hybe and Scooter Braun I'm not sure
what's going on in Hybe but these are rumors I heard, besides nobody hardly trust Scooter Braun anymore
every since when He done to America singer Taylor Swift by tried
to own Her contract about 5 or 7 years ago not sure, but I know that
Taylor Swift does not like Scooter Braun that's for sure, She said He is
shady and snake who's not to be trusted, and I also heard some rumors that Scooter Braun tried to
go after Mr Bang Si Hyuk Chairmen
Founder who tried to steal Hybe from him under his nose not sure
that's truth or not but theirs some
shady stuff that's going on in Hybe
I heard and fact Hybe don't allowed
BTS to touch their money and someone in Hybe CEO's is stealing
BTS some of their hard working money right from under them not
sure that's true or not but some seem to think it's Scooter Braun but
He's in America so I don't know or
sure what's going on that, but hopefully you find out soon with some dig deep research about this mess,
Also what are your thoughts about
Hybe join in forces with other two
Korea Company JYP & YG the same
2 Companies who didn't bother to help Bighit a smaller Company during times from 9 or 10 years ago,
who treated BTS and Mr Bang Si- Hyuk a former Manager of a poor small Company 'Bighit who's now
growth Bighit into a multiple $Millions Company with BTS help,
and Army's help who's Company growth into $ Millions Corps many reacords labels joins together who
once was call Bighit who's now 'Hybe who change Company name from Bighit to Hybe but now rumors
has it Scooter Braun left Company Hybe or Bieber and Ariana left Hybe
not sure, but if something tell this Guy 'Scooter Braun rubs me the wrong way, but maybe it just me.
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Why do you have BTS on the thumbnail? They had nothing to do with that shit show. I guess even while some of their members are enlisting, the SK government and clickbait video creators need them to save the day.😐
SK is very rotten in many aspect.The only best thing happen to SK is only Bts
For ARMYS who ignore all the other talent in S. Korea....