Starnet 2 for Pixinsight vs Star Xterminator. (How well does it work?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Starnet Ver 2 for PixInsight was available briefly before being removed from Sourceforge due to non-compliance with open source terms. It looks like the dev has made it available now on his own website now which is here: www.starnetast...
Starnet helps you remove the stars from your astrophotography images. In this video I walk you through how I installed Starnet ver 2 and look at how well it performs compared to Starnet Ver 1 and also StarXterminator.
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Thanks for watching! Clear skies!
Thanks so much. Starnet 1 then StarXterminator now back to Starnet 2.
Same here! lol
We truly live in exiting times for astrophotography! Thanks for the video!
Indeed! Thanks.
Starnet ver 2 works so much better! Thanks for doing this comparison.
You're welcome!
Whoa! I was able to download & setup in PI just like you said. Even this old geezer with a partially fossilized brain was able to follow and complete!! Thanks!!
Super! You're welcome. Cheers.
was waiting for this thank you!!!
Great video and thank you for the information! I installed Starnet V2 but I found that my current CUDA acceleration wasn't working. I have an RTX 3080ti card and had to update the CUDA packages. After that I noticed that Starnet V2 is twice as fast as V1 (and V1 was already flying). Starnet V2 is definitely a game changer, super clean star removal. Again, thanks for always putting out great content.
I agree with Chuck. An excellent comparison and video.
Great comparison…looks like Starnet 2 is a winner for now 😊
I think so. Will be interesting to see if Star Xterminator ups the ante!
Thanks, guess I am going back to Starnet. Pleiades was the perfect target to test this
Thanks Shawn. Another excellent video!
Thank you Paul. :)
Excellent comparison!
Thanks Chuck!
That’s great. Would be nice to see more comparisons in the video though
Great Comparison Shawn!!
Thanks! :)
Great video and comparison mate!
Thanks Steven! Cheers.
Thanks for this Shawn. Mac users (like me) need to be aware that this version still won't work with the new Macs (M1). Nikita says he doesn't have access to one to test it so that's that. I've confirmed it after trying to install.
That’s really disappointing. I understand that the majority of users remain on PC but Mac users a big group, the M1 is the future of the Mac and performs while EMULATED near the top of ANY processor with Pixinsight (can you imagine if it was native?) and has been out for testing since summer of 2020. Both Starnet and Pixinsight need to make this a priority at this point because at some point the emulation will be removed from future macOS versions and it won’t just be starnet that doesn’t work. Maybe we can do a go fund me to get the developer a M1 Mac mini or MacBook Air?
@@canyonblue737-8 Interesting idea. On the Starnet front it seems Nikita just needs access to a new Mac and time. Time seems to be a huge factor given that writing code is a spare-time activity for Nikita. On every other front PI is working blazing fast and well on my M1 Max Mac. So fast that I try to do most of my processing on it. Thank goodness for StarXTerminator.
Thanks for the info. I don't use MAC. I'm sure your comment will be helpful to other MAC users though. Cheers.
I just installed it the other day and it's faster and works better I would say.
Super! thanks for letting us know. Cheers.
It works great 😊 Tested it already.
Great to hear!
Thank you!!
Great info, thanks.
NOTE: Starnet v2 appears to have been removed from Sourceforge because it failed to meet their open source terms/requirements. There is nothing I can do about this. The dev appears to have made it available now on his own website. See description for link. If you have any questions or problems with Starnet v2 please direct them to the developer.
Thank you
The files in Sourceforge say they are suspended.
it is not available for download anymore at this time
It seems the install file is not available no more ? "This project's file releases are suspended because this project has not made source code available under an Open Source license, as required by SourceForge's Terms of Use." ???? by the way very usefull video thx
What about the execution speed of the new starnett? Starnett 1 took ages to do its work. Exterminator is a lot quicker.
If you have an NVIDIA graphics card you can use CUDA acceleration to make either Starnet version 1 or 2 go a lot faster
about 2 x as fast on my pc than Starnet 1
Unfortunately, it does not appear to support the new M1 Apple processors.
That's what other MAC users are saying. I don't use MAC so I don't know.
The update still doesn't appear to be available. They must have run into some snags.
does V2 works on M1 Mac? V1 does not and I have to use PI in windows to remove the stars and go back to the Mac to continuing processing.
In the video you said there would be a link in the description to the download, but it looks like you forgot to include it.
I did. I added it though. :)
Shawn
Did they remove starnet++ from sourceforge , I cant find it anywhere and the link you have just takes me to the sourgeforge page
yes seems it was removed due to non-compliance with open source terms of Sourceforge. Not sure if the dev will make it available again.
Hi, think the link is not working
yes seems it was removed due to non-compliance with open source terms of Sourceforge. Not sure if the dev will make it available again.
@@VisibledarkAstro Unfortunately, I could not run it. I downloaded it from the site, but the StarNet2-pxm.dll file was not found in the zip file.
Thanks, Shawn! Are you using GPU acceleration with V2? I was able to get it to work with my 3080 by keeping the original tensorflow.dll file from v1, but it crashes on me half the time.
I'm using a 3070 Ti and if I keep the CUDA tensorflow.dll and don't replace it with the Starnet V2 tensorflow.dll then both Starnet V2 and the CUDA speed-up mod both seem to be working great for me. I really like the Starnet V2 and speed-up combination!
My acceleration stopped working even keeping the same tensorflow.dll file. Haven't been able to get it working again. I just walk away for a bit and come back when I run Starnet! lol.
@@VisibledarkAstro Mine did the exact same thing. But then Nvidia came out with a new driver update for my RTX3070 ti and when I installed the new Nvidia driver the Starnet CUDA acceleration started working again. The GPU driver seems to be part of the solution, go figure....
So why remove the stars they are ment to be there.
The stars are removed temporarily in order to stretch and process the linear image data without bloating the stars. After the processing is done the un-bloated stars are added back into the final image.
Thank you 👍🏻
Bought Star Exterminator the other day. Whilst I am pleased with it. Hope that’s updated to at least match Starnet 2.
me to!
Excelente explicación...Paso a instalarlo. Gracias y saludos desde Buenos Aires. ¡Buenos cielos!
This video is cool. This channel desperately needs P-R-O-M-O-S-M.
Well, on the Source Forge site, it says downloads are "suspended" because "the project has not made source code available". Sigh.
Very well 🙂thank you
and best whishes
Chris from Germany
Hi Shawn, I just tried to get v2 from SourceForge site and it doesn't seem to be available. It says on the page that it is "Not open source". Any Idea what's up?
It looks like the dev hasn't met all of the requirements to be "open source" and they've suspended downloads temporarily until the dev submits what is required.
Wow that's an incredible difference Shawn! Thank you so much for sharing! :) I definitely will have to download the new one 😄
Thanks for stopping by Noah!
As StarNet2's licensing has changed, do you think it'll still allow PI to automatically include StarNet2, or would that new licensing dictate a separate manual-install only?
No idea. Will just have to see I guess.
I am clicking on the link for startnet. It takes me to Sourceforge but I cannot find starnet! What is happening?
The developer of Starnet didn't meet open source requirements on Sourceforge. It looks like now its been removed. If/when I have an update on what's happening I'll post about it.
@@VisibledarkAstro Thank you so much for all you do. It is deeply appreciated. Your tutorial is a godsend.
Hopefully it's natively using the GPU now instead of the CPU. So much faster if so.
It doesn't, I just tried it. But if you have installed the Starnet Speed-up CUDA and leave the Speed-up tensorflow and don't replace it with the Starnet V2 tensorflow, then the speed-up (as well as SN V2) still works great!
Great video, thanks so much! One question, what about speed? Traditionally Starnet is so much slower than StarXterminator. I'd go with quality over speed, but the speed boost plus the quality improvement made me choose to buy StarX.
No speed change with Starnet ver2. Unless you have an nvidia card and want to try the hack to speed it up. Thanks for commenting! Cheers.
Does it work on linear images? That’s what I love about Star Exterminator. Version 1 did not work (at least very well) on linear images.
New for version 2 is that you can use it on linear images.
Works better than star exterminator