The Shadowfell | D&D Inner Planes Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.25
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Dark, dreary, drab, and definitely deadly - this week's episode covers the Shadowfell! We promise not to leave you in despair as we guide you through this seemingly horrific landscape full of mysterious and spectacular creatures. Join Will and Brian as this treacherous terrain is traversed on another edition of Atlas Exterus.
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One thing: The Raven Queen doesn't hate all the undead, she hates the intelligent ones, the ones not related to her. A mere skeleton for example is just like a "robot" in her eyes.
*goes to the Shadowfell, fails wisdom save*
" You feel like everything you do is hopeless and you're overwhelmed with suicidal urges."
"... I don't feel any different..."
Fast becoming my favorite way to consume D&D lore. Definitely helps with my long commute. Also, Shoutout to Demogorgon.
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I had read that the raven queen did exist in the forgotten realms though she had been relegated to the back. While she wasn't a goddess in name, she was in power from what I understand. She, along with several other powers are constantly vying for control of the Shadowfell. Love your guys stuff tho!
Ran a few friends who have been playing since 3rd edition through the shadow fell. They were enjoying slaying waves of ghouls, wraiths and specters and a sea of zombies. It was only when the bow fighter was healed by the cleric' that a hungry sorrowsworn was spanned and attacked. Split from the party the rogue searched for their friends in the misty borders. Feeling rather separated a lonely pursued them.through to ravenloft. The party grew to fear what was behind some of the basic elements they took for granted. Such as sleep or hunger. They hitched a ride with the carnival and made their way into ravenloft to try and find a way of escape, all the while losing pieces of their equiptment selves and sanity. These are the only characters I have k own who retired in game to go live out the rest of their lives with family
So happy you guys felt the same way about the shadowfell. It makes no sense the way wotc just tossed every evil/spooky thing in the plane. Then, when accounting for the demiplanes... There's just so much diversity in what kind of beings reside "in" the shadowfell that it stops having any theming at all.
The mirror analogy is nice and simple, I dig it. The feywild is over-exaggerated, while the shadowfell is under-exaggerated and eroded away. I can work with that. Make it so the feywild has EXTRA features while the shadowfell is missing them. Like maybe sprites/pixies in the feywild have these elaborate designs, identifying animal/insectoid/plant-like parts of their humanoid bodies, magic swirling around them, the whole nine yards. Then those of the shadowfell could be just little balls of light, either looking like Navi, from Legend of Zelda, or a Will o' Wisp.
Rather than shambling zombies and such all over the place, you have spirits that are more like echos. They're no longer aware of their surroundings. Instead, they're "stuck on loop" for whatever they were feeling in life or more specifically in their last moments.
Remember, the feywild has you going 200% until you crash and burn. So for the shadowfell, it should take those who are already worn down and give them new life in some way imo. You could have the shadowsworn expanded to be a whole host of individuals who stayed in the shadowfell so long that the plane's energies crashed against their soul and form until only the most intense parts of their being remained, forever warped into that shape. Someone who was constantly starving and eventually passes out to it awakens later and suddenly has just enough energy to search for food again. They shamble corner to corner as "The Hungry," looking for anything remotely edible to ingest but that is ALL they can do now forever more until they're put down. Though they become frenzied at people wasting food or daring to trivialize this creature's suffering at the hands of hunger with something like the Goodberry spell. If you think this only happens for negative traits, hold up. Perhaps a cleric who holds out faith, even in what they believe to be their last moments, is turned into "The Devout;" A creature only capable of repeating the simplest of ceremonies from their old life, they wander around sacred sites, graveyards, etc. They become frenzied by people committing blasphemy, speaking ill of their fortune, and running away from their duties. None of these would be undead in type but instead monstrosities.
I could go on and on. I've got a lot of ideas bottled up about this setting.
I found some home brew rules to implement mechanics from the game darkest dungeon called stress, how it works as you play you gain stress, when it maxes out you have to role a d-100, 75% to gain a temporary negative trait like selfishness or abusive, the last 25% is positive traits like courageous and virtuous, this is great for shadowfell
Shar used her power to weave the negative energy plane to the plane of shadow. The raven queen dwells there but does not rule out right. I could see her dwelling far into the mists. But maybe aslong as the undead stay there on their plane, she cool.
To answer the question at the beginning, I'm currently in a curse of strahd campaign where we continually get our arses kicked.
I love this cast. So glad I found you guys. I'm gona to binge the heck outta this content.
It seems the Keepers are trying to create shadow crossings by randomly changing areas of towns.
Genius!
My wifes first time playing D&D so I really wanted to hook her! We took a trip to the Upside Down! It was really fun!
Oldie but a goodie
Thank you for your work.
That was a nice and comprehensive overview.
Thank you!
I'd imagine the shadow hounds, to fit the stealthy, sleek, and speedy look, would be like dobermans.
The raven queen hates intelligent undead like liches. Normal undead are whatever mindless husks while intelligent undead are usually creatures that are avoiding death in some way and therefore avoiding their visit to the raven queen.
The creature that sits on your chest and gives you nightmares is also the Hag.
Another great episode guys. Learned a lot of helpful stuff to refer to while I play my Shadar-Kai Ranger. Thanks for the shot out too.... Oh and Brian you should watch Game of Thrones. I have the blu rays if you want to borrow them.
Josh....curious to hear what your Shadar-Kai build was like.
Maybe the raven queen only considers undead to be unnatural in the primaterial plane and has no problem with them in the shadowfell because they belong there, maybe the undead in the shadowfell were never alive.
So the Shadowfell is Detroit.
I just recently stumbled onto your channel. I am officially subscribing. I love the lore and ecology.
They're not ovals laying beside one another.. They're like layers of paint on top of one another.
3.5 Shadar-Kai are shadow fey who made a deal with "dark powers" to bring permanent twilight to the PMP. The plan went awry and left the Shadar-Kai bound to the Plane of Shadow. To remain on the PMP they have a gal-ralan that pins their soul to their body. It's a cold-forged iron band with long needles that pierces the forearm.
I had a Shadar-Kai assassin, was the best downtime character I have ever played.
in mordekainen's they are a subrace of elves, with the raven queen as their previous queen that failed apotheosis. Shadar-kai are now basically shadow elves were drows are the underdark thing.
Ghosts are really dead.
Anyone else notice someone says "that's good" in the distance at the end of the intro? Lol
Teleport with trees on critical roll is using the spell transport via plants.
Well. When Shar lived there who was in charge wasn’t up for debate. Now that she’s fucked off to the Towers of Night in the Astral Sea I guess it really is
GoT totally both. Especially if audiobooks are an option for you, just listen in the car. Totally worth.
25:00 Making my way through these episodes and I really didn't expect that Matrix imprint joke. I take it it's not a coincidence you'd whip that one out after mentioning you like listening to ComicPop? It's such a good running joke.
The teleport through trees a dryad can do. A Dream Druid can use a hidden path ability to teleport 60 feet.
I think you may be talking about Master of Chains
Yes! This is the book I was referring to.
The Dungeoncast - Glad to help! I actually just packed this book away for my move. Probably the only reason I remembered it lol
OMG! Joey Tribianni Dracula! That's a premise for an entire game.
The shadar Kai sound like the Dark Eldar and servants of Slaanesh. Or a cenobyte
How do you find and spell the shadow city Ikemu? This is perfect for a spare archer character I'm building.
Is the shadowfell dimensions via wormholes that connect that go into let's say hell the level of second layer of Dis
I know this is a old post but I’m just getting into you guys and buy the way love you but read after you watch game of thrones because it’s two different amazing things
Weird watching a channel about D&D lore where the presenters struggle with one of the best and most prolific villains in the entire game. Irony personified here. Haha.
I'm about to bring the Shadow Enclave into my game (DR1372). One of my players wishes to run a Shadar kai race build that is a Warlock (Patron is Raven Queen). I'm curious as to the relationship between SHAR & Raven Queen. What recommendations would you recommend for a PC abilities, traits...etc for a 5E game. I know they were in earlier editions but I find multiple & different details on wiki media. Interested to hear your thoughts. The party is NOT evil and expected to interact with the Shadovar from the City of Shadow eventually. My player says his character's ties relate to "hating sentient undead" and destroying those that don't follow the Raven Queens ideology.
Shar as a general rule doesn't get along with other deities. The Raven Queen though does not exist in Forgotten Realms lore so this is really falling into "up to the DM" territory. All in all, I would imagine these two would clash over the want of rule and influence over the Shadowfell and of the Shadar Kai. Shar basically owns the Darkness and would probably see the shadowfell as hers by right.
I homebrewed a Shadar Kai race a couple years back. From memory it was something like this: +2 Dex, +1 Wis; Resistance to Necrotic, Proficiency in Stealth, One use of Misty Step per short Rest and ADV. on Death Saves.
Awesome. Thanks for the prompt reply. If you come up with that character sheet of the Skadar-kai character I'll gladly take a look. May the dice forever land in your favor.
@@Thedungeoncast that is really close to the official subrace actually, props!
@THE DUNGEONCAST. What books are you referring to? What book had the character who slowly was overcome by Shadowfell Despair. "Tied to a chair in in dark room giving up after 7 days."
Unbroken Chain by Kaleigh Johnson
How did liking the GoT show better than the books work out for you?
can you play d&d modern city in the shadow fell and Fey wild such as Houston or Dallas, Texas in your D&D game characters in a modern setting if you want? Is it possible? Is it okay to do so if you don’t want to be in a medieval setting?
Wow someone preferred the show over the books? GoT books is really good and the show cut so much stuffs from the book. The season before the final one is pretty good tho
I wonder where to go to find these books of the forgotten realm series.
Google
Am I right in saying Strahd is one of the Dark ones?
The Dark Powers imprison and ‘torture’ people of great power for unknown reasons. Strahd is a prisoner of these powers, and believed to be the first.
Listen to the GoT Audiobook!
Read the books
Kolyurat, in the Shadowfell. Why?
I'm gonna try carrion crawlers on the piles of banished undead, such a pretty place, it really is a matter of perspective.
GoT READ!!! the show is a fucking mess seriously... The books are thousandfold better
Don't do game of thrones in my opinion, but hay what do I know they've sold millions but I couldn't make it through the first book and I've been reading SF & Fantasy my hole life (since 1980). The show seems equally boring to me.
The plane of shadow came out way before 4e, so you failed in your lore.