I bought a cheap 2M 5A PD usb-c cable and the manufacturer cheated and put a 5A emark chip in a thinner 3A cable and devices attempt to charge over 3A but fail due to the electrical properties of the cable being wrong. I left a review of the cable on Amazon alerting people to the fraud and Amazon deleted my review a few weeks after I posted it saying I was mistaken and the manufacturer was honest. I tested the cable with a cable tester it doesn't lie but Amazon doesn't care! I promptly cancelled my prime membership in response.
A general rule of thumb is always be careful when buying cheap cables off Amazon. You can wind up frying your electronics that way. Personally I only buy first party like from Apple. Yeah it might be more expensive but the peace of mind is worth it.
Hey I know this won't likely be seen by you, but you've been doing an incredible job with this channel and I thank you for your hard work going over these chargers and power standards!
Can you please make a video explaining why some cheap devices with USB-C can only be charged via USB-A to USB-C cable, but not USB-C to USB-C cable? Now i have two of these (hair trimmer and helmet intercom) and i guess device manufacturer didn't include a chip that does PD negotiation, but would be interested in a more in-depth review of this issue. Thanks!
Some devices using the Usb-c connector but not the PD protocol will not charge with a cable containing an e-marker chip as there is no voltage on the cable before the initial 5v negotiation. Vape pens are great examples of these, as these small devices rarely have spare room for PD circuitry.
No. Those devices should have 2* 5.1k resistors from CC1 to GNG and from CC2 to GND. Those arent that big. If not - those will charge from adapter with USB-A port via USB-A to USB-C cable
@@volodumurkalunyak4651Indeed. However, PD spec is highly convoluted and difficult to approach. AFAIK, the spec calls for some sort of voltage monitoring on the sink side along with the resistors. Some vape devices require 3A, which not all chargers can do. IP2721 is also not very large but a lot of designers just don't include one. I don't know the reason for sure but I have always thought it was the overly complicated documentation of the PD spec.
@@dogukancil5128 resistors are a minimum thing to recieve power, those signal the power supply to turn on main output. Maybe fancy devices could have resistors and IP2721, but every one should have resistors.
One interesting thing is noticed between my 5A and 3A cables is that my phone (mi11ultra) with mi65watt gan charger doesn't charge with more than 27 watts so 8-9v 3A but with a 5A cable it goes to 45 watts so 9V 5A which makes sense but I wanted to point out that not all devices uses that 20V and are more limited but can benefit from higher amperage
@@arianamirgholami9555 yes the original one from the official store named Xiaomi 65w gan charger, even with the newer update of android with security updates it still only charge 55w from the 65w gan charger as the phone says 55w MAX charging.
@@aaast2549 It could be using 11V5A c to c didn't have an standard for more than 5 amp so without increasing voltage (which isn't possible) that's what you get
@@arianamirgholami9555 I'm not so good at this it might be funny question but why it can just get more V or balance with lower A and higher V to get 65w as it says on charger 😂
Another great educational video ChargerLab and thanks. Great info about the amperage of the E-marker chip. However, it’s sad that a lot of producers of charging cables don’t put the specifications on their product labels so we are unable to determine the real life charging wattage unless we buy the cable and also a USB measuring device like that sold by your company. Higher price cables don’t necessarily guaranteed faster charging time or higher charging wattage. And we cannot cut our cables too. In the end, we can only get an assurance if we buy cables of any sort from reputable manufacturers. Or to keep following your fantastic video tear downs of chargers and cables ……. Keep up the good work …. Thumbs up 👍🏼
I need an urgent reply ...... I have both 45W and 65 W adapter. Both charge my Samsung S24 Ultra with Super fast charging 2.0 (5A Cable)......65 W adapter came with My Laptop Book 4 but when I charge the cable along with this adapter cannot charge my phone with 2.0 charging, that means that cable is not 5A.......So all the time I need to carry 65 W adapter and both cables with me,,,,, My question is can I replace original Laptop cable with my 5A mobile 45W adapter cable? By doing this cause any damage to my Laptop?
What about 6A and 10A cable ? Like OnePlus iqoo cables. Whats the difference between these . And why most after market type c cable limits at 5A . I have tried my OnePlus device it charges at 5A only with 100w after market cable . But with OnePlus cable it charges upto 8A.
could you also talk about cables which support 240W charging? I want to buy a 250W power bank and like to know which USB-C cables matches the best with it. Thank you
Is there any problem using a 5A cable on my phone charger that says it is limited to 3A? I have a 5A cable laying around and I lost the 3A cable that came with the charger.
Definitely yes and it is so safe no matter 100w 200w adaptor or future 1kw 😂 because usb-c pd can automatically regulate voltage and ampere and it's based on your device (receptor) as shown in the video usb-c can regulate voltage from 5v-20v and 3A/5A and more... Based on USB-c version or pps
i have a fast charger does the usb c to lightning cable matter because there is fast charging cables as well does it rlly matter compared to a normal usb c cable to lightning
I have a 2 meter cable that claims 100w 5A. Does that mean it's lying? I can charge my laptop fine with it (65W charger) it does not complain about slow charging. Also, my Mi10T Pro does not always go to "mi turbo charge" 33W with it, sometimes it says "quick charging" and it goes to 18W. Could that be because of a dirty port or the cable?
@@dragosmoldovan990 in my experience Baseus is pretty good, just they (and many other Chinese brands) prefer to set their cables/chargers compatible with Apple products at first priority. You can find a $6 3m 100W cable from st like Essager, which works perfectly with a Macbook, but struggling to communicate with a Surface laptop. Cheap does not mean bad, just need to be suitable, and Apple :v
@@dragosmoldovan990 i bought McDodo CA-713 years ago and it was priced around 6EUR too. i use it to charge my laptop with no problem but it's only 65W. didn't have chance to try to pull 5A yet but your problem could be coming from the E-Marker chip. i don't have similar problem but the cable i bought can only be used as USB2.0 everytime i did USB tethering to my phone while the non-E marked cable could. your phone uses non-standard charging protocol so the chip could be problematic
I didn't realize that tester could show the data speeds the cable supported I just ordered one of those now I've been looking for something that could tell that I also wanted one that could tell the protocols too but I didn't need that one as bad as the one that could tell the speed but since it does both I'm getting it
Amazing video. So a normal USBC cable of any kind really will give me 60W which will charge all but my laptop, even as a videographer. USB is great but their design and marketing team need to be fired as its so confusing!
What cable can I get get that is USBc to lighting that is pd like the one I your video or witch one is that. Please I would like to know so that it works with my fast charging rechargeable battery.The battery requires fast charging device to start fast charging mode.
Hi Charger Lab, is it safe for me to use a 3A cable to charge my laptop with a 100W charger? Will it only charge slower or will it potentially damage my laptop?
please I need help. I have a Xiaomi note 11 pro and lost my original charger I want to buy a new charger 120w clan I do that? other brand than Xiaomi? is it only the cable that has this chip? so if I get a Anker 140w charger do I need a Xiaomi cable for it to work? or what do I look gor?
You can use Whatever cable, the standard nowadays cable is 2.4A 3A 5A or more, The QC protocol is max 18w 9v 2A or if not QC protocol but 18w proprietary fast charger won't require cable more than 3A
@@ChargerLAB but with the macbook type c to type c cable my s22 plus using 45w samsung charger showing super fast charging instead of super fast changing 2.0. Its shows the same with 25w charger 😔
@@WasfyRahmando u use the original samsung 45w? If third-party charger need to has pps support, if it's still the same, it would be there's a secret pin in samsung 5A that must be required
using wattage could be problematic to devices that uses high current. let's say a 3A cable labelled as 60W, a 60W device that uses 15V would overload the cable since the max. current is 4A. if you look up on AWG table, there's no power rating but current.
The mark chip is monopoly. Stupid unnecessary hw. The 2 wires chargers are most efficient, just have matching voltages and none of the expensive rubbish of negotiable hardware.
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I bought a cheap 2M 5A PD usb-c cable and the manufacturer cheated and put a 5A emark chip in a thinner 3A cable and devices attempt to charge over 3A but fail due to the electrical properties of the cable being wrong. I left a review of the cable on Amazon alerting people to the fraud and Amazon deleted my review a few weeks after I posted it saying I was mistaken and the manufacturer was honest. I tested the cable with a cable tester it doesn't lie but Amazon doesn't care! I promptly cancelled my prime membership in response.
A general rule of thumb is always be careful when buying cheap cables off Amazon. You can wind up frying your electronics that way. Personally I only buy first party like from Apple. Yeah it might be more expensive but the peace of mind is worth it.
You really showed Amazon huh.
How did you know it was a 3A rated cable? Did you measure the diameter of the cores?
If it’s made in China it’s like a box of chocolate you’ll never know what you gonna get😅
Classic Amazon... supporting frauds as usual 😢
Hey I know this won't likely be seen by you, but you've been doing an incredible job with this channel and I thank you for your hard work going over these chargers and power standards!
Can you please make a video explaining why some cheap devices with USB-C can only be charged via USB-A to USB-C cable, but not USB-C to USB-C cable? Now i have two of these (hair trimmer and helmet intercom) and i guess device manufacturer didn't include a chip that does PD negotiation, but would be interested in a more in-depth review of this issue. Thanks!
Some devices using the Usb-c connector but not the PD protocol will not charge with a cable containing an e-marker chip as there is no voltage on the cable before the initial 5v negotiation. Vape pens are great examples of these, as these small devices rarely have spare room for PD circuitry.
No. Those devices should have 2* 5.1k resistors from CC1 to GNG and from CC2 to GND. Those arent that big.
If not - those will charge from adapter with USB-A port via USB-A to USB-C cable
@@volodumurkalunyak4651Indeed. However, PD spec is highly convoluted and difficult to approach. AFAIK, the spec calls for some sort of voltage monitoring on the sink side along with the resistors. Some vape devices require 3A, which not all chargers can do. IP2721 is also not very large but a lot of designers just don't include one. I don't know the reason for sure but I have always thought it was the overly complicated documentation of the PD spec.
@@dogukancil5128 resistors are a minimum thing to recieve power, those signal the power supply to turn on main output. Maybe fancy devices could have resistors and IP2721, but every one should have resistors.
One interesting thing is noticed between my 5A and 3A cables is that my phone (mi11ultra) with mi65watt gan charger doesn't charge with more than 27 watts so 8-9v 3A but with a 5A cable it goes to 45 watts so 9V 5A which makes sense but I wanted to point out that not all devices uses that 20V and are more limited but can benefit from higher amperage
Bro i use 67w charger with my mi11t the phone can use 67w. When i charge with my 65w gan charger it says it only charge 55w why it cant charger 65w?
@@aaast2549 are you using xiaomis 65 watt charger?
@@arianamirgholami9555 yes the original one from the official store named Xiaomi 65w gan charger, even with the newer update of android with security updates it still only charge 55w from the 65w gan charger as the phone says 55w MAX charging.
@@aaast2549 It could be using 11V5A c to c didn't have an standard for more than 5 amp so without increasing voltage (which isn't possible) that's what you get
@@arianamirgholami9555 I'm not so good at this it might be funny question but why it can just get more V or balance with lower A and higher V to get 65w as it says on charger 😂
Another great educational video ChargerLab and thanks. Great info about the amperage of the E-marker chip. However, it’s sad that a lot of producers of charging cables don’t put the specifications on their product labels so we are unable to determine the real life charging wattage unless we buy the cable and also a USB measuring device like that sold by your company. Higher price cables don’t necessarily guaranteed faster charging time or higher charging wattage. And we cannot cut our cables too. In the end, we can only get an assurance if we buy cables of any sort from reputable manufacturers. Or to keep following your fantastic video tear downs of chargers and cables ……. Keep up the good work …. Thumbs up 👍🏼
I need an urgent reply ...... I have both 45W and 65 W adapter. Both charge my Samsung S24 Ultra with Super fast charging 2.0 (5A Cable)......65 W adapter came with My Laptop Book 4 but when I charge the cable along with this adapter cannot charge my phone with 2.0 charging, that means that cable is not 5A.......So all the time I need to carry 65 W adapter and both cables with me,,,,, My question is can I replace original Laptop cable with my 5A mobile 45W adapter cable? By doing this cause any damage to my Laptop?
What about 6A and 10A cable ? Like OnePlus iqoo cables. Whats the difference between these . And why most after market type c cable limits at 5A . I have tried my OnePlus device it charges at 5A only with 100w after market cable . But with OnePlus cable it charges upto 8A.
Great stuff. Thank you for being clear AND quick.
THIS is the video I was looking for!
Does thunderbolt 3 cable guaranteed to deliver 100w?
What about the new 240 W cables? Are there any major differences between them, and the older 5 A cables, other than data in the marker chip?
"larger pressure drop"
"Voltage", surely.
My bad. We'll correct that later.
problem is: they claim to deliver X and Y but dont deliver it in the end, when it comes to usb cables you can buy.
Your video really helped me figure it out which cable I should buy. Thank you so much.
Glad I could help
could you also talk about cables which support 240W charging? I want to buy a 250W power bank and like to know which USB-C cables matches the best with it. Thank you
Info I needed, what is best cable for data transfer.
Is there any problem using a 5A cable on my phone charger that says it is limited to 3A? I have a 5A cable laying around and I lost the 3A cable that came with the charger.
No, it is completely safe
How can we identify from the outer shape of the cable to check whether it is a 3A or 5A cable
So using 3a wired charger enough to max my 33watt adapter
Si
@@sebasjssa2002yes
Can I charge my smartphone with a basic 100w charger aka Ugreen or Baseus? Despite original charger which is only 20W?
Definitely yes and it is so safe no matter 100w 200w adaptor or future 1kw 😂 because usb-c pd can automatically regulate voltage and ampere and it's based on your device (receptor) as shown in the video usb-c can regulate voltage from 5v-20v and 3A/5A and more... Based on USB-c version or pps
Is a 5A cable ok with the charger for my Steam Deck, since the Deck is 15v/3A?
It's ok.
@@ChargerLAB Thanks…
What about cables that are supposedly rated at 240W?
Very very helpful information, thank you so much
Finally some metrics unit video.
I was wondering what this "Sunbolt" brand is. It was nearing the end of the video that I realized it's "thunderbolt".
What about the current ratings of 120w-240w cables ? Is it a different category of type C ?
does all 5a 100w type c cable support PD pps?
I think charger has to support PPS, not the cable
Do you sell the USB-C cable? What is the difference inside the cable for difference transfer speed? Thank you
Does usb PPS allow finee volrage selection like 19v? I want to portable power my akai force which require 19v 3.42a.
most of the important stuff like charging specs are not indicated on package even from manufacturer like anker.
very informative, you have a great content thank you!
How much watt can usb type c 2A cable transfer?
i have a fast charger does the usb c to lightning cable matter because there is fast charging cables as well does it rlly matter compared to a normal usb c cable to lightning
I have a 2 meter cable that claims 100w 5A. Does that mean it's lying? I can charge my laptop fine with it (65W charger) it does not complain about slow charging. Also, my Mi10T Pro does not always go to "mi turbo charge" 33W with it, sometimes it says "quick charging" and it goes to 18W. Could that be because of a dirty port or the cable?
Apple standard charging cable for Macbooks is 5A 2 meters. But it is noticeably thicker than other cables (twice thicker than lightning cable).
We can still buy 5A cables over 2m, but that will be expensive.
Therefore, most manufacturers will make it within 1m (cost-effective option)
@@ChargerLAB that is what worries me, it was no expensive. It was around 6eur, branded Baseus
@@dragosmoldovan990 in my experience Baseus is pretty good, just they (and many other Chinese brands) prefer to set their cables/chargers compatible with Apple products at first priority. You can find a $6 3m 100W cable from st like Essager, which works perfectly with a Macbook, but struggling to communicate with a Surface laptop. Cheap does not mean bad, just need to be suitable, and Apple :v
@@dragosmoldovan990 i bought McDodo CA-713 years ago and it was priced around 6EUR too. i use it to charge my laptop with no problem but it's only 65W. didn't have chance to try to pull 5A yet but your problem could be coming from the E-Marker chip. i don't have similar problem but the cable i bought can only be used as USB2.0 everytime i did USB tethering to my phone while the non-E marked cable could. your phone uses non-standard charging protocol so the chip could be problematic
I didn't realize that tester could show the data speeds the cable supported I just ordered one of those now I've been looking for something that could tell that I also wanted one that could tell the protocols too but I didn't need that one as bad as the one that could tell the speed but since it does both I'm getting it
Wait but i have a 6A cable at my phone only supports 15 watts of charging (Samsung Galaxy A50s), will this cable affect my phone in some way
can I use 5A 100W data cable on my redmi note 10 pro for copying files on a computer?
Yes, but most 100W cable is not designed for data transmission. So, the copying file speed will be pretty slow.
@@ChargerLAB what can you recommend sir?
@@disguisedporo1300 usb 4 cable with 40gbps
Is it safe to use 5a for 3a charger?
Hello sir
I have two types c cables. Both are bad.
How to joint there wire. ? One canle have 8 wire and other one have 5 wire
Amazing video. So a normal USBC cable of any kind really will give me 60W which will charge all but my laptop, even as a videographer. USB is great but their design and marketing team need to be fired as its so confusing!
It's sounds like your saying 3m and 5m but the English says 3a and 5a. . I'm unsure which is right
Please make a video of UGREEN 200w 6Port Gan charger. 🙏🏼
What cable can I get get that is USBc to lighting that is pd like the one I your video or witch one is that. Please I would like to know so that it works with my fast charging rechargeable battery.The battery requires fast charging device to start fast charging mode.
2:18 Surprise! I never expected power/charging protocols had such standards? What about now in 2924?
Are there USB A 3A cables and USB A 5A cables?
In what units do you measure "pressure drop" of a cable? Pascals, Bars, PSI, mm of Hg, m of H₂O?
Hi Charger Lab, is it safe for me to use a 3A cable to charge my laptop with a 100W charger? Will it only charge slower or will it potentially damage my laptop?
It will only charge slower.
@@ChargerLAB Thanks.😀
It is completely safe just charge slower
Because usb-c pd can regulate voltage and ampere based on receptor as shown in the video
Thanks for very useful informations 😘
Is pd, pps, pdo intercompatible ?
pd 3.0 include pps
@@mahditurki8600 Not always. PPS is optional in PD 3.0/PD 3.1
5m or 5a?
What is best for qualcomm quick charge 3.0 cable 18watt charger support please reply
The QC is max at 9v 2A so u can use whatever cable, because standard usb-a usb-c is 2.4A 3A 5A or more
Which charging cable is suitable? 240 watts or 60 watts? For iPad Pro 2022 11 inch
you missed the USB 4 240W
please I need help. I have a Xiaomi note 11 pro and lost my original charger I want to buy a new charger 120w clan I do that? other brand than Xiaomi? is it only the cable that has this chip? so if I get a Anker 140w charger do I need a Xiaomi cable for it to work? or what do I look gor?
Basically, you need to purchase an official Xiaomi charger in order to get the best charging performance.
What is best for 18w chager 😃
3a, el 5a no es necesario
You can use Whatever cable, the standard nowadays cable is 2.4A 3A 5A or more, The QC protocol is max 18w 9v 2A or if not QC protocol but 18w proprietary fast charger won't require cable more than 3A
Does macbook pro usb c cable offers 5a or 3a?
5A
@@ChargerLAB but with the macbook type c to type c cable my s22 plus using 45w samsung charger showing super fast charging instead of super fast changing 2.0. Its shows the same with 25w charger 😔
@@WasfyRahmando u use the original samsung 45w? If third-party charger need to has pps support, if it's still the same, it would be there's a secret pin in samsung 5A that must be required
240w cable vs 5 and 3 amp video 😀
Thanks for your sharing
What is best in life , Conan ?
I think they should rate the wires based on Watt & not current. Watt would be less confusing
60W : 3A max, 100W: 5A
I think that's what the USB-IF is prepare to do:
th-cam.com/video/Q4WQ6TDFMF0/w-d-xo.html
using wattage could be problematic to devices that uses high current. let's say a 3A cable labelled as 60W, a 60W device that uses 15V would overload the cable since the max. current is 4A. if you look up on AWG table, there's no power rating but current.
Nope, Rated wire based on Current is good, if rated on power (W) would be confusing, the thing is the maximum output voltage of USB-C is 20V
I have one its written 8A
Thank you.
Excellent !
Better not tell the EU who mandated USB-C ports this, it’ll blow their minds.
bro. you can explain this in shortest way
MYOB
good one thanks.
Can't wait for the 80gbs 240w cables to come and become common
about two million microamps
What's with the poofy gloves?
Identity protection
Thank you
Thanks
The mark chip is monopoly. Stupid unnecessary hw. The 2 wires chargers are most efficient, just have matching voltages and none of the expensive rubbish of negotiable hardware.
One is 5 ampère, the other isa 3 ampère.
Mic drop.
Awesome
🎉🎉🎉
Wow!
Bhai hindi me video daale ye video
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The music is annoying. 👎
This video was so useful 🥹. Thank you❤
Thanks