Update: The Alesis Crimson II SE has gotten complaints about the Open and Closed MIDI Note being the same. So that particular kit might not be the best for drum software use. I'd get the Simmons SD1250 instead if you need large sizes for Drum Plugin use.
(Question) Thanks a lot man! I'm currently shopping for an affordable electronic drum kit, but being new to these instruments (I was drumming a long while back, and want to come back to drumming for my leisure)... You mentioned that we could use drum plugins with the Alesis or Simmons instead of their respective module internal sounds... That interests me since I find the features of those kits to be quite "complete" (I was playing exclusively on acoustic drums: getting used to smaller pads won't be long with those kits). However, I have no idea what you mean by "drum plugins" 😁... Ok I guess that you can bring along some samples of your own... But do you have a clip explaining how to set up and use "drum plugins" (preferably along the Alesis or the Simmons since they seem to be good candidates for such scenario)?
How do you feel the triggers and quality compares between these kits? What with the fixes for the Simmons, and these issues with Alesis (I've also heard their cymbals go out fairly often?).While I'll probably eventually get into plug ins, I'm hoping to get some idea of the native module sounds and overall quality as a total beginner to drumming
Mine work fine as you can program you individual pieces Depending on your 3rd part software Superior Drummer allows several parameters for HH, But stock Crimson 2 I get 3 sounds open, closed and “pedal hit” if you will, where I don’t need to hit the HH Just tap the foot pedal
I was really thinking about getting the Roland TD-07 just as a VST plugin controller, but if the Alesis has good velocity response and low latency, I think I'll go for that instead. I also appreciate that it has midi built in.
Sound is big for me. With that being said I remember playing on a Yamaha from 2007 to about 2010 and the sound was amazing. So it's good to see them stay consistent and Legendary.
The Simmons app is quite powerful for editing module, Yamaha used to have iOS support for modules, hopefully they continue to do so. Alesis/Roland take notes screen diving on small led screens is terrible. A phone or tablet is so much better
Good video! This has to be the first time that Yamaha wins to Roland. I'm honestly about to sell my DTX502 to get that DTX-PRO module. I think it'll be a great update for my kit.
Subbed, I'm newer to drumming, brand new to electronic drums and very out of practice. I played guitar in bands for decades, drums just a little while maybe 9 months...then neither for last 15 years. Decided to jump back in and feed my need to get gud on drums.😊
I’m happy with the Crimson 2 SE nothing but TT superior and ez kits, strictly a studio kit for me, love the white mesh, snare stand, rack stability and slightly larger bass for double kick pedal
@@geezee7 Hey bro congrats, you use the module out ports, usually usb but could be toslink or spdif, right into your computer, Toontracks ez or superior is easy to set up and they have preset manufacturer and kit types built in to the software So read your e-kit info on proper computer or interface connection, then they will define how to set your module to send midi data then open your software and find your kit as a Midi controller and your good to go
Excellent review Justin! Thanks for this. I´m about to get a new electronic kit and this review has been very useful. I have the Alesis Command Mesh but even though I like the sound, I´ve found it a bit fragile so to speak....I´ve been looking not only for a great sound but also for durability. Yamaha has both. Thanks again!
You can turn your sd1200 in to 4 piece and you can move the ride closer to you. Just move the tom 2 L rod and move in the ride rod to the tom to L rod was. And if you want you can move the tom 2 L rod where the ride rod was and make it a cymbal.
One thing that concerns me is that you don't comment on cymbal quality. I'm just concerned that Alesis still uses medeli cymbals, because after replacing 5 cymbals over the course of 4 years I really do not want to bother with those any more. I otherwise enjoyed the hell out of my command kit (and it is otherwise still going as of this post) and don't have the budget for roland kits (they're more expensive here for some reason). It's great to see a new 1k roundup video, and I hope you review your older videos down the line when new options show up. Thanks Justin, keep up the good work mate.
Great video justin:). In Alesis crimsom se kitt many have complaim that midi number is the same for open and closed high hat which is weird. If you sre using plugin and try ti do midi mapping
Hey great video and awesome drum sets, Could you make a Review on the Millennium MPS-850? It’s considered one of the “best bang for your buck” drums sets and I haven’t seen a GOOD review on it and I Really think that You do good reviews and I want to see this on your Chanel to make my decision
Well... I can say that I have one mps 850 for 8 months and I'm selling it... Not because of the Tom's, snare and kick....but because of the cymbals...they suck in any possible way... Im thinking on getting a yamaha now...
I just built up a new Edrum kit over the last few months. I originally started at this price point and was going to get a crimson but I waited around for a sale on reverb and picked up a mint Alesis Strike kit for only $1200. I waited and slowly expanded it, finding a 14inch strike drum for only 200, 2 strike cymbals for $150, and even a couple of the OEM rack parts to expand for like $30 on reverb. Now I have the full strike pro kit and im still under $1700. Took about 2 months of looking for sales on Reverb but I waited for Very good or mint items! Doing it in stages let me save up and also get a Strike multipad, and i got a sidesnare strike drum to use with that. The alesis strike kit is incredible if you're good with electronics. Just about every issue that has ever plagued the kit has been solved over time between Alesis software updates, the alesisdrummer forum, and just people using different parts like a carbon trigger plate. I got the 3 zone lemon ride cymbal, and I plan to modify the edge switch via an old post. He modified the circuitry and added a resistor to the edge zone so its reconized as a piezo zone. I think I can get a dual-zone cymbal with a switch for the edge zone to properly work with the strike multipad. ALSO if you snag one in stock, you can add an edrumin 10 to the setup and I THINK you might be able to get Roland pedals like the fd-9 working on the strike multipad AND ALSO positional sensing on the strike toms! Switch its purpose and you can use your strike pads with computer software like superior drummer through the edrumin! All in all I think all of this cost me under $2500 when all is said and done and this setup is just the ultimate setup. Once again, if youre comfortable with electronics you can dial in every setting on the alesis strike module to perfection and maximum dynamics, AND with the edrummin module you can rival the functionality of the Roland Digital pads. Alesis all the way for value!
Having bought the Roland TD-17KV, I now wish I would have bought the Simmons SD1200 large kit when it was on sale. Not having the 3 zone ride annoyed me so I had to buy one to upgrade it. the Simmons would have met my needs for MUCH less money.
Hi. Thanks a lot for your great tests! You might consider a test of the nux-dm7x. Would be nice to hear your opinion on this kit. There are only a few tests of this kit online.
@@funkylentil6966 unfortunately I wasn’t able to buy one yet because life has it’s cool ways of stopping you from doing cool shit but hopefully soon when I have the extra money i’ll get one
@@Jaypc06 I still haven’t yet 😪 and i’m about to be out of my job because of the vaccine mandate so it’ll be a while but thank you for remembering my comment man pretty crazy how 6 months ago I was saying the same thing
I bought the Roland TD-07KV. I love it honestly. I bought another crash cymbal for it too , it was needed. But you are right, not having the bell sound kinda sucks but the overall sound is impressive.
I have the alesis nitro set just a 500.00 set and I love the way the mesh heads feel. Only complaint is the sounds are a little lacking just like the 1000.00 alesis he shows. I myself do not like the rubber pads on drums.
Thank you for this video. I'm looking to replace an old TD-4 that I got rid of with a new set in this price point. I do use triggering software almost 100% of the time, so on board sounds isn't important to me. That being said, what's the issue with the Alesis and double kick? I am primarily a metal player so a dookie kick trigger would be an issue. Would you mind going into a little more detail regarding your experience with it? Thanks so much!
Looking for a drumset that will be used for rehearsals and recording in the $1,000 range. Will be using third party sound fx. Thank you very much for this vid!
Best electric drum channel on youtube! I am also a tall guy and would like to know if I should be more worried about the size of the kit than the sounds? I have a home studio with an audio interface and I will mostly be using my electric kit as a midi controller with sounds from EZdrummer. I really like Roland kits but the kits in my price range might be too small. I will have to play the kits before really figuring out what I should buy. I play guitar, bass (my main instrument and most professional sound), keys, and also sing so I want to have a drum set that will give me the freedom of total creativity.
Hi Justin, great info as always. With all that info and testing you did, lets say you are staring at the TD-07 and the DTX 6K side by side with a $1000 in hand, which one are YOU throwing your money down on? I cant make up my mind.
I would say other factors that need to be weighed in are these. Gigging versus recording versus the practice at home drummer. For gigging I don’t think you can beat a $1000 Alesis drum set. At this price point, I can buy two of them for back up. The rims and the rack are steel which helps with transport and durability. It has stereo outs. The sounds aren’t that great. But most PA systems wouldn’t be able to play the difference between this kit and the others on this list. If I was recording, I would definitely have a Roland drum set or Yamaha. I’ve had them before and they sound fantastic. The sound nuances and triggering would definitely help on tape. Also, if I was practicing at home, the features of a Roland and Yamaha would be fantastic . Just my two cents.
I'm a big dude, 6"3. I really like the Alesis but i play metal with a lot of pedals. Probably gonna go with the Roland because of the superior Bass drum. Is the Alesis bass drum pad really much worse than the Roland? tia :)
I was wondering if you were gonna do a follow-up video on the Efnote drums. I saw your older video, but now that they're actually out and available for purchase, it seems like they may have addressed some of the issues you had. The Efnote 5 seems to be offering quite a bit for the money, and good sounds too. I was gonna get the Roland VAD306, but then I discovered the Efnote 5 is around the same price, and now I'm torn.
So if I wanted to combine just the module high hat and kick pedals with a pad controller for finger drumming so I could operate the snare, toms and symbols with my fingers, (so that I could trigger superior drummer three sounds) what would be the best set up?
When you say "large set", do you mean the size of the pads etc or the number of items in the set itself? Related question: is the side of the pad important for an electric set?
I own a Crimson II SE and it has a serious misalignment issue. Many pads won't be active depending on whether connected to Garageband or other DAW. Can you provide an easy solution for that?
"The Roland TD-07 does not have master right and left outputs..." Me: "Ah ha, see, what i did to solve that issue was simply buy a small mixer and" "...if you want master right and left outputs, you'll have to buy a small mixer." And here i was thinking i was clever...
Justin, I need some advice. You said that the new Yamaha module could support any competition's pads. So, if I wanted bigger snare and tom pads than what Yamaha is currently offering, what would you suggest? I like the Simmons pads and 2Box's. Maybe even Alesis, as long as all of the pads are mesh. I'm not overly happy with the Roland pads because of that extra material they use that reduces the playing area even further. Thanks for any help. I'm still recovering from Covid-19 and now I'm fairly sure that I won't have enough strength to carry around an acoustic kit and acoustic cymbals. And, really, that's okay. I'm 53 years old. I have a bad back. But, I still can play some awesome rudiments across the drums. Stay safe and healthy, Justin! You're an amazing man!
Yeah any kind of mesh pad will work. They sell those Simmons SD1200 pads seperate for not much money, and they are decent for the price. And of course used pads off eBay are always a good deal too. Hope you get better!
Hey I was wondering. I am having a tight budget and I need an upgrade from my Simmons sd350 and I've been looking at the Roland td17. That is currently out of my budget, so should I wait till I can buy it or buy a td07 instead?
What are your thoughts on Yamaha DTXplorer? Its a pretty old school kit. A 2nd hand is being sold for a relatively decent price in my area. Also any thoughts on NUX kits?
I might spend $80 on a DTXplorer. I've used one live a few years ago, build like a tank, but it's really old. As for NUX, they aren't sold in the USA yet. I've played a NUX kit one time re-branded as a Kat Percussion kit. The pad quality was good, the sounds weren't that great. I'm interested to see what they do next
Thanks for video. You mentioned that some of the grand priced rolands don't have a bell zone ride. Do you know by chance if the td17 kv has a bell zone ride?
Hey Raquel, sorry the TD17KV doesn't have a third bell zone, but you can program the edge to be a bell sound I believe. Or get the TD17KVX which does have a bell. or just buy the TD17KV, and swap out the ride to a nicer one that does have an actual bell zone.
my brother awesome video happy thanks giving , I have a question the second drum you preview the Alesis ,it will be a good choice then iff you work with VST ? I use logic I been looking around to get a drum set , I have a lot of Drums VST I also have my own library's of hand percussion. and im more interested in the quality of the Drum pads and futures also durability but not much on the sounds of the drum module , , even if is not on this video review wish is and awesome video thanks , what will you recommend , im wiling to spend at the most 1500 to 2000 max but if I can get the best for what I need for less that will be super awesome
I'm wondering if these drum sets have the same response time. Do they all have about the same. Or is there one brand that is better at it then others. I want to get a kit, but im worried that the delay might make me regret it. I love how the Alesis looks.
Hi, I only got to know that those Medeli/Alesis/XDrum have a larger latency than Roland etc. I have the MPS-850 module but it's absolutely playable and I just use it through a VST. I measured about 11ms from hit to headphones.
Honestly, just save for the TD07KVX (if you're going with Roland), it's only $200 more and it gives you so much, amazing value, but either way those drum kits are good too
What about 2box Speedlight? It's in that price range, and it looks like a great value for the money - ok pads and 2Box DrumIt 3 module + hi-hat on a stand, which is VERY important.
I don't know much about it. They don't sell the speedlight in the USA. 2Box told me they would probably send one over to be reviewed on the channel, but they never followed up.
I wonder if it would be worth it to get the Yamaha kit and replace the rubber tom pads with three Simmons mesh tom pads. Total cost would be about $1240. I think they'd be compatible, unsure about the mounting system.
Would love to get your take on the latest Alesis DM10 mkii Pro kit at $1,299. By the way, aren't we do for some new offerings by Alesis by now? Seems most of the kits are about 3 years old now except for the Strike refresh. I'm just concerned I'll finally have saved up for one, and the next model will come out right after I buy it. Thanks for putting out these killer videos!!!
I'm looking for the first e - drum set for my 11 year old he's a beginner but I'm hoping for suggestions on a set he won't outgrow in 2 - 3 years and doesn't break the bank I kinda like the Alisis for it's size he played a Simmons in GC last week he said it was ok
How would the ATV EXS-2 compare to the Alesis Crimson II SE? It may be a bit over 1000$ but my budget is 1000€ where it fits in. Is the price the reason for the kit not being on this list? Or would you not recommend the ATV at all?
I NEED HELP ☑️✅ I just saw the alesis crimson ll Se for $600 brand new or should I buy a Roland TD-07 for like $800 all I just want is decent sound but a large kit 🥁
@65Drums I took a chance and ordered the kit from Thomann in Germany. The were here in less than a week $700 plus $300 shipping and import fees. Here is my unboximg: th-cam.com/video/79zA1HIcOJQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
great videos! I’m thinking about what you said about the Alesis.. I’m looking for a set for recording using plugins only, so I have zero need or desire for a module with internal sounds, but definitely want something that feels natural to finesse drummers and will pick up on their nuances and touch. what are my choices in the $1000-2000 range?
Thanks for this video! I'm gearing towards the Alesis Crimson II SE, but am skeptical about the durability and reliability issues from people online saying it just tanks after a certain amount of time. Would you suggest getting an extended warranty from Guitar Center?
@@DrummerGrrrl right on, I’m now looking into the Roland TD-07KV which is around the $1K even though I’ll need to put in a kick pedal but in research the Roland quality and sound is winning me over.
Do you think the Yamaha or Roland sounds are better? I noticed that your top picks for electric drums video a few months back, and the Yamaha said was not mentioned.
Hey man. I’m wanting to start recording with my iPhone for simplicity. I have an irig hd2... so I can get half decent audio with it and record up to 4k60 with my iPhone. What do you recommend for holding the phone? Just a really tall tripod? I’m still trying to figure out angle.. I feel like overhead angle makes the most sense?
I can't see spending 1000$ on an e kit when if you just spend 500$ more you can get a Roland, as far as every e kit I've tried Roland is the best ,all tester kits in music stores Roland's never break ,alessis always break ,I go to the store and Roland's always work alessis have crap construction broken triggers and don't always register the stick hits ,Roland baby
Update: The Alesis Crimson II SE has gotten complaints about the Open and Closed MIDI Note being the same. So that particular kit might not be the best for drum software use. I'd get the Simmons SD1250 instead if you need large sizes for Drum Plugin use.
(Question) Thanks a lot man! I'm currently shopping for an affordable electronic drum kit, but being new to these instruments (I was drumming a long while back, and want to come back to drumming for my leisure)... You mentioned that we could use drum plugins with the Alesis or Simmons instead of their respective module internal sounds... That interests me since I find the features of those kits to be quite "complete" (I was playing exclusively on acoustic drums: getting used to smaller pads won't be long with those kits). However, I have no idea what you mean by "drum plugins" 😁... Ok I guess that you can bring along some samples of your own... But do you have a clip explaining how to set up and use "drum plugins" (preferably along the Alesis or the Simmons since they seem to be good candidates for such scenario)?
How do you feel the triggers and quality compares between these kits? What with the fixes for the Simmons, and these issues with Alesis (I've also heard their cymbals go out fairly often?).While I'll probably eventually get into plug ins, I'm hoping to get some idea of the native module sounds and overall quality as a total beginner to drumming
I'd imagine they can fix this with a software update?
Opinion on td-07kvx?
Mine work fine as you can program you individual pieces
Depending on your 3rd part software
Superior Drummer allows several parameters for HH,
But stock Crimson 2
I get 3 sounds open, closed and “pedal hit” if you will, where I don’t need to hit the HH
Just tap the foot pedal
0:33: Roland TD07KV
2:44: Alesis Crimson II SE
4:40: Simmons SD1200
6:27: Yamaha DTX6K-X
I was really thinking about getting the Roland TD-07 just as a VST plugin controller, but if the Alesis has good velocity response and low latency, I think I'll go for that instead. I also appreciate that it has midi built in.
Sound is big for me. With that being said I remember playing on a Yamaha from 2007 to about 2010 and the sound was amazing. So it's good to see them stay consistent and Legendary.
Glad to get so much content from you last few weeks.
I have the sd1200 and I think when upgraded it’s fantastic
How are you able to upgrade?
The Simmons app is quite powerful for editing module, Yamaha used to have iOS support for modules, hopefully they continue to do so. Alesis/Roland take notes screen diving on small led screens is terrible. A phone or tablet is so much better
How does the sd1200 compare to the titan 70 (which is $300 less)? They look nearly identical
Good video! This has to be the first time that Yamaha wins to Roland. I'm honestly about to sell my DTX502 to get that DTX-PRO module. I think it'll be a great update for my kit.
Subbed, I'm newer to drumming, brand new to electronic drums and very out of practice. I played guitar in bands for decades, drums just a little while maybe 9 months...then neither for last 15 years.
Decided to jump back in and feed my need to get gud on drums.😊
you know what. How about a video for "the best vdrums for plugins". That would really help me out a lot! The whole setup would be lovely to see
I’m happy with the Crimson 2 SE nothing but TT superior and ez kits, strictly a studio kit for me, love the white mesh, snare stand, rack stability and slightly larger bass for double kick pedal
I'm a Newby man I really need some help with using other kits like ez kits and superior? How do I go about applying them to the module?
@@geezee7
Hey bro congrats, you use the module out ports, usually usb but could be toslink or spdif, right into your computer,
Toontracks ez or superior is easy to set up and they have preset manufacturer and kit types built in to the software
So read your e-kit info on proper computer or interface connection, then they will define how to set your module to send midi data then open your software and find your kit as a
Midi controller and your good to go
@@gitarman666 thanks bro very helpful 🙏🤙🤙
You got that Millenium MPS 1000 E drum set out now for this range
Excellent review Justin! Thanks for this. I´m about to get a new electronic kit and this review has been very useful. I have the Alesis Command Mesh but even though I like the sound, I´ve found it a bit fragile so to speak....I´ve been looking not only for a great sound but also for durability. Yamaha has both. Thanks again!
You can turn your sd1200 in to 4 piece and you can move the ride closer to you. Just move the tom 2 L rod and move in the ride rod to the tom to L rod was. And if you want you can move the tom 2 L rod where the ride rod was and make it a cymbal.
Every new video bring a smile to my face
:) :) :)
One thing that concerns me is that you don't comment on cymbal quality. I'm just concerned that Alesis still uses medeli cymbals, because after replacing 5 cymbals over the course of 4 years I really do not want to bother with those any more. I otherwise enjoyed the hell out of my command kit (and it is otherwise still going as of this post) and don't have the budget for roland kits (they're more expensive here for some reason).
It's great to see a new 1k roundup video, and I hope you review your older videos down the line when new options show up. Thanks Justin, keep up the good work mate.
Great video justin:). In Alesis crimsom se kitt many have complaim that midi number is the same for open and closed high hat which is weird. If you sre using plugin and try ti do midi mapping
Thanks for the info!
Great video and breakdown Justin!! Awesome to see that you are doing well man!! 👊😎✌
Thanks for the analysis, very useful !
Hey great video and awesome drum sets, Could you make a Review on the Millennium MPS-850? It’s considered one of the “best bang for your buck” drums sets and I haven’t seen a GOOD review on it and I Really think that You do good reviews and I want to see this on your Chanel to make my decision
Well... I can say that I have one mps 850 for 8 months and I'm selling it...
Not because of the Tom's, snare and kick....but because of the cymbals...they suck in any possible way...
Im thinking on getting a yamaha now...
Thanks for the honest review
Wow!!! You audio sound is great!!!
Superb presentation! This is a huge help.
I just built up a new Edrum kit over the last few months. I originally started at this price point and was going to get a crimson but I waited around for a sale on reverb and picked up a mint Alesis Strike kit for only $1200. I waited and slowly expanded it, finding a 14inch strike drum for only 200, 2 strike cymbals for $150, and even a couple of the OEM rack parts to expand for like $30 on reverb. Now I have the full strike pro kit and im still under $1700. Took about 2 months of looking for sales on Reverb but I waited for Very good or mint items! Doing it in stages let me save up and also get a Strike multipad, and i got a sidesnare strike drum to use with that.
The alesis strike kit is incredible if you're good with electronics. Just about every issue that has ever plagued the kit has been solved over time between Alesis software updates, the alesisdrummer forum, and just people using different parts like a carbon trigger plate. I got the 3 zone lemon ride cymbal, and I plan to modify the edge switch via an old post. He modified the circuitry and added a resistor to the edge zone so its reconized as a piezo zone. I think I can get a dual-zone cymbal with a switch for the edge zone to properly work with the strike multipad.
ALSO if you snag one in stock, you can add an edrumin 10 to the setup and I THINK you might be able to get Roland pedals like the fd-9 working on the strike multipad AND ALSO positional sensing on the strike toms! Switch its purpose and you can use your strike pads with computer software like superior drummer through the edrumin!
All in all I think all of this cost me under $2500 when all is said and done and this setup is just the ultimate setup. Once again, if youre comfortable with electronics you can dial in every setting on the alesis strike module to perfection and maximum dynamics, AND with the edrummin module you can rival the functionality of the Roland Digital pads.
Alesis all the way for value!
How's the build quality? I noticed this was 2 years ago so I'm wondering how they held up?
Having bought the Roland TD-17KV, I now wish I would have bought the Simmons SD1200 large kit when it was on sale. Not having the 3 zone ride annoyed me so I had to buy one to upgrade it. the Simmons would have met my needs for MUCH less money.
Just upgrade your ride to a cy13R or somthing. The ride on the SD1200 was not very good unfortunately.
@@65Drums I ended up buying the Cy15R. I should have just bought the TD-17KVX
Hi. Thanks a lot for your great tests! You might consider a test of the nux-dm7x. Would be nice to hear your opinion on this kit. There are only a few tests of this kit online.
Wow, I could have saved hours of research if I watched your video earlier haha. Thanks man!
I believe this sealed the deal on me getting a Yamaha DTX6K-X
How's that going now? And what do you use it for?
@@funkylentil6966 unfortunately I wasn’t able to buy one yet because life has it’s cool ways of stopping you from doing cool shit but hopefully soon when I have the extra money i’ll get one
@@BasicMacik have you gotten it?
@@Jaypc06 I still haven’t yet 😪 and i’m about to be out of my job because of the vaccine mandate so it’ll be a while but thank you for remembering my comment man pretty crazy how 6 months ago I was saying the same thing
@@BasicMacik if it makes you feel any better, I’m about to lose my job too 😎😎😎
I bought the Roland TD-07KV. I love it honestly. I bought another crash cymbal for it too , it was needed. But you are right, not having the bell sound kinda sucks but the overall sound is impressive.
Just curious, can the ride be upgraded on the Roland TD-07KV to include a 3 zone for the bell sound? Thanks!
@@fentressema3 I don't know.
@@fentressema3 It can, but you need to use CR2 cable as a bell, so you need to choose between having second crash or bell in ride.
I have the alesis nitro set just a 500.00 set and I love the way the mesh heads feel. Only complaint is the sounds are a little lacking just like the 1000.00 alesis he shows.
I myself do not like the rubber pads on drums.
Great video! Your vids are always super helpful!
absolutely spot on nailed it.
i just got my yamaha dtx6k x in i love it .
i think your video was perfectly explained in every detail.
Very informative review. Straight & to the point. Thanks.
Thank you for this video. I'm looking to replace an old TD-4 that I got rid of with a new set in this price point. I do use triggering software almost 100% of the time, so on board sounds isn't important to me. That being said, what's the issue with the Alesis and double kick? I am primarily a metal player so a dookie kick trigger would be an issue. Would you mind going into a little more detail regarding your experience with it?
Thanks so much!
Hi, can you make a video about what are the best drum sets for midi purpose only?
Does anyone know if the Crimson II SE hi-hat over MIDI issue has been resolved?
Thanks for answering my previous question. I have another for you, if you don't mind. Do either the Roland or Yamaha snare pads work with brushes?
Looking for a drumset that will be used for rehearsals and recording in the $1,000 range. Will be using third party sound fx. Thank you very much for this vid!
Damnn!! I haven’t watched Justin in a while. Now he’s got an SM7B. Good for him!!!
I am looking to upgrade my Simmons 550
But it's a hard choice right now
Is it easy to add new drum sounds on crimson?
Do any of these kits have cymbal-choke capability?
Best electric drum channel on youtube! I am also a tall guy and would like to know if I should be more worried about the size of the kit than the sounds? I have a home studio with an audio interface and I will mostly be using my electric kit as a midi controller with sounds from EZdrummer. I really like Roland kits but the kits in my price range might be too small. I will have to play the kits before really figuring out what I should buy. I play guitar, bass (my main instrument and most professional sound), keys, and also sing so I want to have a drum set that will give me the freedom of total creativity.
The kick on my sd12000 doesn't move at all its probably just your drum set.
Nice video man! Always enjoy your reviews 👍
I have the Alesis on layaway. Gonna drop some GGD modern fusion into those bad boys!
Hi Justin, great info as always. With all that info and testing you did, lets say you are staring at the TD-07 and the DTX 6K side by side with a $1000 in hand, which one are YOU throwing your money down on? I cant make up my mind.
I'd probably get the yamaha, but its a tough decision
I'm on the same boat man. Leaning towards the td07 cause I've never had mesh pads coming from a dtxplorer.
I would say other factors that need to be weighed in are these. Gigging versus recording versus the practice at home drummer.
For gigging I don’t think you can beat a $1000 Alesis drum set. At this price point, I can buy two of them for back up. The rims and the rack are steel which helps with transport and durability. It has stereo outs. The sounds aren’t that great. But most PA systems wouldn’t be able to play the difference between this kit and the others on this list.
If I was recording, I would definitely have a Roland drum set or Yamaha. I’ve had them before and they sound fantastic. The sound nuances and triggering would definitely help on tape.
Also, if I was practicing at home, the features of a Roland and Yamaha would be fantastic .
Just my two cents.
Solid review.
I'm a big dude, 6"3. I really like the Alesis but i play metal with a lot of pedals. Probably gonna go with the Roland because of the superior Bass drum. Is the Alesis bass drum pad really much worse than the Roland? tia :)
I was wondering if you were gonna do a follow-up video on the Efnote drums. I saw your older video, but now that they're actually out and available for purchase, it seems like they may have addressed some of the issues you had. The Efnote 5 seems to be offering quite a bit for the money, and good sounds too.
I was gonna get the Roland VAD306, but then I discovered the Efnote 5 is around the same price, and now I'm torn.
I hope to cover them later this year, I just played the beta version at NAMM the other year. Never the finished version of the module
So if I wanted to combine just the module high hat and kick pedals with a pad controller for finger drumming so I could operate the snare, toms and symbols with my fingers, (so that I could trigger superior drummer three sounds) what would be the best set up?
figure it out?
Super helpful! Thanks
When you say "large set", do you mean the size of the pads etc or the number of items in the set itself?
Related question: is the side of the pad important for an electric set?
do you have a video about external tools like plugins?
what about around the 1300 mark? Would the Roland td17kv be good for that section?
Yeah I really like that drum set
What’s a bell zone?
Hi, Thank you for the videos Justin, do you have any information about the millenium mps 1000?
I own a Crimson II SE and it has a serious misalignment issue. Many pads won't be active depending on whether connected to Garageband or other DAW. Can you provide an easy solution for that?
Hey man great drum channel love the content keep up the great work
"The Roland TD-07 does not have master right and left outputs..."
Me: "Ah ha, see, what i did to solve that issue was simply buy a small mixer and"
"...if you want master right and left outputs, you'll have to buy a small mixer."
And here i was thinking i was clever...
Justin, I need some advice. You said that the new Yamaha module could support any competition's pads. So, if I wanted bigger snare and tom pads than what Yamaha is currently offering, what would you suggest? I like the Simmons pads and 2Box's. Maybe even Alesis, as long as all of the pads are mesh. I'm not overly happy with the Roland pads because of that extra material they use that reduces the playing area even further. Thanks for any help. I'm still recovering from Covid-19 and now I'm fairly sure that I won't have enough strength to carry around an acoustic kit and acoustic cymbals. And, really, that's okay. I'm 53 years old. I have a bad back. But, I still can play some awesome rudiments across the drums. Stay safe and healthy, Justin! You're an amazing man!
Yeah any kind of mesh pad will work. They sell those Simmons SD1200 pads seperate for not much money, and they are decent for the price. And of course used pads off eBay are always a good deal too. Hope you get better!
Hey I was wondering. I am having a tight budget and I need an upgrade from my Simmons sd350 and I've been looking at the Roland td17. That is currently out of my budget, so should I wait till I can buy it or buy a td07 instead?
Cool video! Thanks.
What are your thoughts on Yamaha DTXplorer? Its a pretty old school kit. A 2nd hand is being sold for a relatively decent price in my area. Also any thoughts on NUX kits?
I might spend $80 on a DTXplorer. I've used one live a few years ago, build like a tank, but it's really old. As for NUX, they aren't sold in the USA yet. I've played a NUX kit one time re-branded as a Kat Percussion kit. The pad quality was good, the sounds weren't that great. I'm interested to see what they do next
@@65Drums would u say 2box is the most realistic sounding e-drum company out there? Ive watched their vids and seems like they are
Sound is all subjective, just buy what you like the sound of
Is there any MIDI problem with the yamaha? Especially with the hihat. Hope to see your reply
On the Alesis SE Crimson ---- is there any way to upgrade the internal sounds thru the module?? Thanks for the excellent video...
There is a company called drum-tec that sells packages of 10 kits for about 50 eur that can be uploaded
Question:
Do these require proprietary cables/connectors or can Drum modules and pads be mixed between kits?
As long as you have the right connection they should all be enter changeable
Thanks for video. You mentioned that some of the grand priced rolands don't have a bell zone ride. Do you know by chance if the td17 kv has a bell zone ride?
Hey Raquel, sorry the TD17KV doesn't have a third bell zone, but you can program the edge to be a bell sound I believe. Or get the TD17KVX which does have a bell. or just buy the TD17KV, and swap out the ride to a nicer one that does have an actual bell zone.
my brother awesome video happy thanks giving , I have a question the second drum you preview the Alesis ,it will be a good choice then iff you work with VST ? I use logic I been looking around to get a drum set , I have a lot of Drums VST I also have my own library's of hand percussion. and im more interested in the quality of the Drum pads and futures also durability but not much on the sounds of the drum module , , even if is not on this video review wish is and awesome video thanks , what will you recommend , im wiling to spend at the most 1500 to 2000 max but if I can get the best for what I need for less that will be super awesome
Have you had any experience with the artesia a 250 it goes for about 1000 and has sounds and triggering similar to the efnote
I'm wondering if these drum sets have the same response time. Do they all have about the same. Or is there one brand that is better at it then others. I want to get a kit, but im worried that the delay might make me regret it. I love how the Alesis looks.
Hi, I only got to know that those Medeli/Alesis/XDrum have a larger latency than Roland etc. I have the MPS-850 module but it's absolutely playable and I just use it through a VST. I measured about 11ms from hit to headphones.
And I got those Audiofront EDrumIn4 modules. These should be mentioned.
But these are only trigger2midi interfaces which is all you need for a VST
Honestly, just save for the TD07KVX (if you're going with Roland), it's only $200 more and it gives you so much, amazing value, but either way those drum kits are good too
What about 2box Speedlight? It's in that price range, and it looks like a great value for the money - ok pads and 2Box DrumIt 3 module + hi-hat on a stand, which is VERY important.
I don't know much about it. They don't sell the speedlight in the USA. 2Box told me they would probably send one over to be reviewed on the channel, but they never followed up.
i feel like the millenium MPS-850 should at least be mentioned on the list
I wonder if it would be worth it to get the Yamaha kit and replace the rubber tom pads with three Simmons mesh tom pads. Total cost would be about $1240. I think they'd be compatible, unsure about the mounting system.
can you comment on taking input from an external music source to be able to practice to?
Is the td07kvx worth the extra 400 over the titan 70?
Would love to get your take on the latest Alesis DM10 mkii Pro kit at $1,299. By the way, aren't we do for some new offerings by Alesis by now? Seems most of the kits are about 3 years old now except for the Strike refresh. I'm just concerned I'll finally have saved up for one, and the next model will come out right after I buy it. Thanks for putting out these killer videos!!!
Why can’t you use a double pedal on the Alesis?
Guitar Center has both the Aleise and Simmons (with extra tom & cymbal) on sale for $899.00, which would you buy?
I'm looking for the first e - drum set for my 11 year old he's a beginner but I'm hoping for suggestions on a set he won't outgrow in 2 - 3 years and doesn't break the bank I kinda like the Alisis for it's size he played a Simmons in GC last week he said it was ok
How would the ATV EXS-2 compare to the Alesis Crimson II SE? It may be a bit over 1000$ but my budget is 1000€ where it fits in. Is the price the reason for the kit not being on this list? Or would you not recommend the ATV at all?
Will the Yamaha module work on the Simmons sd1250 drum set?
So, just buy a TD-17KVX?
Can someone please tell me what the song was called they were playing along with on the Yamaha set!
I NEED HELP ☑️✅ I just saw the alesis crimson ll Se for $600 brand new or should I buy a Roland TD-07 for like $800 all I just want is decent sound but a large kit 🥁
what about the Fame DD-1XT ?
Have you tried the Millenium MPS 750X Pro ($800) or the Millenium MPS 1000 ($1000) EDrum in an acoustic shell?
Nope, they aren't sold in USA music stores so I've never seen a single Millenium kit in person. Or Gear4Music either
@65Drums I took a chance and ordered the kit from Thomann in Germany. The were here in less than a week $700 plus $300 shipping and import fees. Here is my unboximg: th-cam.com/video/79zA1HIcOJQ/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Just curious, can the ride be upgraded on the Roland TD-07KV to include a 3 zone for the bell sound? Thanks!
Thanks , good advice
great videos! I’m thinking about what you said about the Alesis.. I’m looking for a set for recording using plugins only, so I have zero need or desire for a module with internal sounds, but definitely want something that feels natural to finesse drummers and will pick up on their nuances and touch. what are my choices in the $1000-2000 range?
Artesia A250 never got mention. Why?
Thanks for this video! I'm gearing towards the Alesis Crimson II SE, but am skeptical about the durability and reliability issues from people online saying it just tanks after a certain amount of time. Would you suggest getting an extended warranty from Guitar Center?
All I can offer is my Roland stuff has been rock solid. Alot of it 20+ years old.
I don't trust Alesis e-kits. I'd buy the best warranty on those. Alesis has that multi pad that really is cool, though.
@@DrummerGrrrl right on, I’m now looking into the Roland TD-07KV which is around the $1K even though I’ll need to put in a kick pedal but in research the Roland quality and sound is winning me over.
Looks like the best option would be to take Alesis and buy a separate pro or semi-pro level module from Yamaha or Roland like those in the review.
@@Goalier95 Is it possible to replace the ride with a 3-zone ride on the Roland? Or add a tom, or change toms for dual-zone toms?
I'm assuming the kick on the Yamaha would be a bit too small for for double kick, right?
Nope it works
Do you think the Yamaha or Roland sounds are better? I noticed that your top picks for electric drums video a few months back, and the Yamaha said was not mentioned.
Yamaha hands down at this price range, if we're just talking about built in sound quality
Can I use on the Alesis Crimson II SE 9-Piece a double kick pedal on it
Hey man. I’m wanting to start recording with my iPhone for simplicity. I have an irig hd2... so I can get half decent audio with it and record up to 4k60 with my iPhone.
What do you recommend for holding the phone? Just a really tall tripod? I’m still trying to figure out angle.. I feel like overhead angle makes the most sense?
Great info
I wanna get the Roland one but the ride cymbal not having a bell is kinda sad is there a way to buy a 3 zone ride on it?
Did you get a Roland or Yamaha ?
@@rafaelvaz9772 i got the roland
I can't see spending 1000$ on an e kit when if you just spend 500$ more you can get a Roland, as far as every e kit I've tried Roland is the best ,all tester kits in music stores Roland's never break ,alessis always break ,I go to the store and Roland's always work alessis have crap construction broken triggers and don't always register the stick hits ,Roland baby