Thanks for watching. For anyone curious. Each chain we used is rated for 12,700 lbs. The crane is certified for 40,000 lbs. Each shackle is rated for 9,500 lbs. This was all to lift a sub 5,000 lb vehicle. Nobody ever stood under the vehicle although the focal length on the cameras might make it look that way. I could've said "don't try this at home" but I doubt y'all have a 20 ton crane at home anyway. Once again, winches are not certified to lift vehicles, so if you want to winch your rig up a tree then you're as stupid as me! Woo hoo! Have fun on the trails!
The Lima Hotel, I was actually going to ask the same question. I’m torn between the Patagonia’s or km2s, the big contributing factor is the km2’s are nearly twice the price then the Patagonia’s for my rig.
@@thelimahotel6874 I have had them for 9 months and I'm glad I saved the money. Ive ran BFG KM and Wrangler MTR in the past. They've performed great offroad.
@@brianmorrison9066 It's ok. When people don't understand the engineering and math behind certain technology they might mistake it for magic or foolishness.
@@DirtComplex The control arm can hold the static weight of that vehicle no problemo, but with the amount of slack in those chains had during the first winch lift that vehicle would have came down with a lot of momentem. Even if it had held it sure would have bent the arms or the mounting points out of wack. Would have worked better connecting winch to static point and following with hoist.
I love your videos so much. You inspired me to get a 2005 Toyota 4Runner for my first car and I’m in the middle of the build. It’s slow going, but I’ll get my bilstein 5100s in soon and can’t wait to get them on!
I'm loving your videos fellas , keep up the good work thanx for the Harbor Freight shout out I've been trying to tell people for years that HF is stepping up their game lol
Harbor Freight has been developing multiple new lines of tools and equipment with a Good, Better, Best or quality rating. They now have their hand tools and power tools ranging from their cheapest (Good) Pittsburgh line up to their new Icon hand tools which are their most expensive ones (Best) with Quinn hand tools in the middle. They’re applying this philosophy to almost all of their products and their Icon line is actually very impressive and comparable to high end tools like Snap-On. I still have a hard time imagining someone dropping $5,000 on a Harbor Freight tool chest though no matter how good it is.
All 4th Feb 4runners have a button under a plastic cap by the gear lever.you just press it and you can put the truck in N without the key in the ignition.
@@DirtComplex The Apex is an awesome winch just to rich for me. I need wire rope due to my project but later may by an Apex. I'm building a mount this weekend.
The cheap HF winchs are a great value because they cost less than $300. They are really slow but reliable. I'm sure this is a decent winch but there is no way in hell I'm spending $600 on a throw away winch you can't buy parts for.
These guys are certifiable. :ROFL But it makes my decision to purchase a Badlands winch from Harbour Freight perhaps a bit less crazy. If I end up doing so. We'll see. I love channels like this, these folk will take a nice shiny truck and risk demolishing it, all for the sake of adventure and engineering. Inspired me to start my own build channel, as well, Frontier Geek.
Cool video. As an avid Overlander the only thing I would add is you must test how it performs after being wet repeatedly submerged during water crossings. I overland to reach remote surfing locations and able to confirm my 12k Badlands winch on my 4runner and boat have zero issues. I only swapped out the steel cable and stock pull hook for synthetic line and factor 55 thimble. And I believe you are testing the new version which comes with a synthetic line stock. Removing stock hook is key as over time I saw my previous 8k stock hook snap and almost took my friend. However, this is a possibility on any winch with a factory hook while winching. Have fun on the trails!
DV8 isn't an eBay brand. They actually make quality bumpers, sliders, skids and wheels. I have been testing out their winch bumper, rear bumper and wheels. I beat on the parts monthly and they hold up great. A poor older Solara decided to rear-end me a week after I installed the rear bumper on my Canyon. Smashed the front end of the Solara so bad it was totalled. My bumper mounting bracket bent slightly and I have a few scuffs in the powder coating. Thanks for the Badlands testing!
I can't speak to the whole of the company, but for this specific bumper it is a knock off of the all pro bumper. It is made in China but sold and branded by DV8. I don't mind the made in China part since it seems good and kept the price low. Thanks for watching! So far the winch is serving its purpose!
Subscribed! Really enjoying the content, especially on the 4Runner! Please do more videos on it such as upgrades etc. Not sure if you are on the t4r or other forums but the budget builds are very popular. Would love to see more detail like any additional mods, fixes or repairs (noticed the new 5th gen wheels) Did it get bigger tires too? Anything else? Thanks!
@9:00 Not ALL Toyota’s are notorious for going out of alignment with bumps or pot holes. Just wimpy IFS ones like Tacoma’s and 4-runners. My land cruiser does just fine.
That Doggo at 11:48 - OMG. Good Doggo. He is all over the place while trying to be helpful, wag tail , sniff, run around, assure my Humans, repeat. So cute, :-)
Such a great video. I love the small touches like the "fizzle" with the music a bit after the camera is shooting out the sunroof on trail. MoAr! Pleezs!
Thanks! I really appreciate the compliments! Next video will be gold mountain redemption. We also took a $900 Land Rover Discovery up the trail hahahaha.
Just weld up some square tubing in a T shape and stick that in your receiver hitch to stop it from rolling like that if you ever want to try this again and really hang the truck by the winch
One thing....dead weight hanging is a lot different from pulling out of some deep mud suction.....adding almost half the weight of the vehicle, if not more. But I do know this winch will do it. Best winch for the money by far!!
Any update on those Bison Stop Cam Bolts? I haven't seen anything from them yet. I bought some Patagonia M/T's for my 4runner as well. Still waiting on my wheels though.
@@russmt4181 I'm curious what kind of mods? Mine is an 04, so I don't think I have to do the hood trim. Do the mounting bolts line up, or is there a bunch of work to be done there?
Cool Video the Only Precaution I would give you is, when you using a much Heavier Crane to prevent your Vehicle from Falling and Smashing to the Hard Concrete Floor, is your Suppose to Following your Winching Up with the Crane, you let the Winch Continue up with out Taking the Slack out of the Crane. So if your Winch Failed your Crane would have Grab it, lets say you Followed it up, trailing your Winch by a Foot, but you Didn't so your FourWheeler would have Crashed all the Way Down to the Concrete Floor. About your Video, it's Awesome anyways, showed the Capability of the Winch, another TH-cam person did a Video, showed all the Extra's that came with it, I want One.
Thanks! Just finished filming the rest of it today so it will be out very very soon! Haha yeah. The paint is actually faded in a lot of spots but the camera and silver color hides it.
I believe you are reading the shackle angle debating incorrectly. The shackle does not care what angle as long as rotating on the bolt axis. The derating looks to be when pulling the side.
That wasn't the only diagram I looked at. Most companies who post the specs show decreased working load with increased angle. Each company varies as far as what percentage it decreases, but what was stated in the video is generally true. Pulling at an extreme angle will start to spread the shackle and pull at the threads.
The video starts with Harbor Freight had crappy quality merchandise but now it’s better. Seems like using a really nice truck is a huge risk to test the quality. Unless you have tons of cash seems too risky to me. But Im relieved it all turned ok. It was entertaining to watch.
Thanks! I personally do not have tons of cash. If I did it would have been a new 4runner being tested... not a 2005 with 478,000 miles on it that I got for under $3000 at the auction. hahahah.
Because it's super cool BRO. It's so sick and it's so awesome that the Tacoma's are trying to be like the Ford becuzzz Fords are the best trucks bro. MOAR LIGHTS MOAR LIKES! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Thanks for watching. For anyone curious. Each chain we used is rated for 12,700 lbs. The crane is certified for 40,000 lbs. Each shackle is rated for 9,500 lbs. This was all to lift a sub 5,000 lb vehicle. Nobody ever stood under the vehicle although the focal length on the cameras might make it look that way. I could've said "don't try this at home" but I doubt y'all have a 20 ton crane at home anyway. Once again, winches are not certified to lift vehicles, so if you want to winch your rig up a tree then you're as stupid as me! Woo hoo! Have fun on the trails!
No link about the bison bolts.
Dirt Complex how have you liked your Milestar Patagonia’s. I’ve heard a couple guys that have them and love them!
Link master Spitz www.bisonoffroad.com/
The Lima Hotel, I was actually going to ask the same question. I’m torn between the Patagonia’s or km2s, the big contributing factor is the km2’s are nearly twice the price then the Patagonia’s for my rig.
@@thelimahotel6874 I have had them for 9 months and I'm glad I saved the money. Ive ran BFG KM and Wrangler MTR in the past. They've performed great offroad.
Hanging a rig from a winch..... Sounds like something I would try. Awesome video.
Haha. Thanks for watching!
Lol “ safety chains attached to the control arms”
Real smart, kid
Exactly what i thought m8
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment!
You're smart too, kiddo. (insert sarcasm)
Lol, you dont think a control arm can hold up a car? The 3 point pick forces the chains into the frame anyway.
@@brianmorrison9066 It's ok. When people don't understand the engineering and math behind certain technology they might mistake it for magic or foolishness.
@@DirtComplex The control arm can hold the static weight of that vehicle no problemo, but with the amount of slack in those chains had during the first winch lift that vehicle would have came down with a lot of momentem. Even if it had held it sure would have bent the arms or the mounting points out of wack. Would have worked better connecting winch to static point and following with hoist.
The Epstein joke was class
He got us all with that joke. We were all surprised by it!
Was funny 👍
I don't think hes dead I think hes an ace in the hole.
I rarely watch offroad channels because the content is kinda wacky but this video was absolutely fun to watch!!! Keep up the good work.
Thanks! You know we just test drove a 2020 F250 Tremor on the road and I'm thinking about making a video on that.
Just found this channel and I'm stoked!
Thanks man. It means a lot!
Same here bud, specially because I just got myself a 2005 4Runner limited
I love your videos so much. You inspired me to get a 2005 Toyota 4Runner for my first car and I’m in the middle of the build. It’s slow going, but I’ll get my bilstein 5100s in soon and can’t wait to get them on!
Awesome! 5100s are great. Ive ran those in the past. Get ready for the many adventures ahead with your new 4runner!
This reminds me of a scene from “The gods Must be Crazy” 😁
I'm giving a like and sub just because of the Epstein reference.
750k or bust! This thing is a keeper! I like your editing, btw. Very entertaining.
Thank you. This comment really motivates me to keep going!
whoever decided to not tighten the safety chains when lifting with a winch is truly a spoon among knives
Epstein lol that was perfect
Ultimate tease of 2019
that Epstien comment alone is worth a like just saying, also I'm impressed with this winch so far. Glad you didn't flip the T4R
The note that was unfolded was totally worth a thumbs up lol
He got us all with that joke. Thanks!
Just got mine for $499 did an unboxing & install video! Very high quality winch for the price
Please upload bumper install video. Much appreciated.
Well this video was enough for me to feel good on decision to buy the apex.
There is a button to left of steering wheel that disables the rollover sensor so if you tip off road the air bags don't deploy
Learn something new everyday.
That Epstein note was hilarious. Just ordered this winch, excited for it to get here!
I'm loving your videos fellas , keep up the good work thanx for the Harbor Freight shout out I've been trying to tell people for years that HF is stepping up their game lol
Hahah. Thanks. Im not ashamed of my harbor freight parts!
Harbor Freight has been developing multiple new lines of tools and equipment with a Good, Better, Best or quality rating. They now have their hand tools and power tools ranging from their cheapest (Good) Pittsburgh line up to their new Icon hand tools which are their most expensive ones (Best) with Quinn hand tools in the middle. They’re applying this philosophy to almost all of their products and their Icon line is actually very impressive and comparable to high end tools like Snap-On. I still have a hard time imagining someone dropping $5,000 on a Harbor Freight tool chest though no matter how good it is.
Harbor freight is a hidden gem. The stuff they are putting out now is some really good. It's like bed bath and beyond for men.
Gods must be crazy DVD, just hook it up to a branch, turn on the winch, and walk away.
All 4th Feb 4runners have a button under a plastic cap by the gear lever.you just press it and you can put the truck in N without the key in the ignition.
Hell yeah! Quick and easy oil change.
That's a badass looking 4runner! Those V8 models r the Best!
Thanks! I love this engine. It sounds so nice and MPG isnt drastically different vs the v6!
Pulling through mud is a better test than a vertical lift
Where's the link for those Bison bolts?
Bison offroad is still testing and getting them in stock. Earliest will be January 2020 and I'll have a video on those soon!
That dog was having a good ol time! Great video.
You can immediately tell as he ran up to me that his body language was friendly and playful!
I bought the Badlands 12000 for $320 after tax. I will mount it on my home made flat bed truck. I will be uploading some videos soon. Awesome video.
Awesome that's definitely a steal!!!
@@DirtComplex The Apex is an awesome winch just to rich for me. I need wire rope due to my project but later may by an Apex. I'm building a mount this weekend.
Great vid! I dig the channel, keep us updated on the 4runner!
Thanks! I'll be posting a lot more in the coming months.
@@DirtComplex Nice Truck
Great video. Thanks
The cheap HF winchs are a great value because they cost less than $300. They are really slow but reliable. I'm sure this is a decent winch but there is no way in hell I'm spending $600 on a throw away winch you can't buy parts for.
You guy's are crazy lol good stuff
Hahah thanks! Im a bit crazy.
We need part 2!!
Hey man thanks for dropping a comment! Working on part 2 now lol.
Fine! You got me hooked. I want to see more.
Haha thanks! Part 2 is being worked on right now!
@@DirtComplex awesome. I really enjoy the little things you throw in when editing. It breakers up the video and keeps me paying attention.
@@SaulChavezHernandez Thanks for noticing that!
The Epstien part was hilarious! And holy shit! 476,000 miles!? That's incredible. Any major repairs?
Thanks for watching! Nothing major other than the usual timing belt and related components replaced.
What was the point of the safety chains if they were so long that they wouldn't have stopped the truck from hitting the ground?
you got a subscriber with the epstein didn't kill himself note hahahahaa
These guys are certifiable. :ROFL But it makes my decision to purchase a Badlands winch from Harbour Freight perhaps a bit less crazy. If I end up doing so. We'll see. I love channels like this, these folk will take a nice shiny truck and risk demolishing it, all for the sake of adventure and engineering. Inspired me to start my own build channel, as well, Frontier Geek.
Cool video. As an avid Overlander the only thing I would add is you must test how it performs after being wet repeatedly submerged during water crossings. I overland to reach remote surfing locations and able to confirm my 12k Badlands winch on my 4runner and boat have zero issues. I only swapped out the steel cable and stock pull hook for synthetic line and factor 55 thimble. And I believe you are testing the new version which comes with a synthetic line stock. Removing stock hook is key as over time I saw my previous 8k stock hook snap and almost took my friend. However, this is a possibility on any winch with a factory hook while winching. Have fun on the trails!
Will definitely get some river crossings and submerged this thing. I'll keep an eye on the hook. Thanks!
How did you manage to install the Tacoma Bumper on your 4Runner?
I'm working on the install video and i'll drop the link here when it's done.
@@DirtComplex cant wait, I also have a 4th gen and like how your bumper install came out
@@DirtComplex please o please keep us posted! I've got an 03.
He said, pull out!!!😂
Me, just looking at winches. Suddenly, a wild Epstein joke. Instant subscribe, nice work.
DV8 isn't an eBay brand. They actually make quality bumpers, sliders, skids and wheels. I have been testing out their winch bumper, rear bumper and wheels. I beat on the parts monthly and they hold up great. A poor older Solara decided to rear-end me a week after I installed the rear bumper on my Canyon. Smashed the front end of the Solara so bad it was totalled. My bumper mounting bracket bent slightly and I have a few scuffs in the powder coating. Thanks for the Badlands testing!
I can't speak to the whole of the company, but for this specific bumper it is a knock off of the all pro bumper. It is made in China but sold and branded by DV8. I don't mind the made in China part since it seems good and kept the price low. Thanks for watching! So far the winch is serving its purpose!
Subscribed! Really enjoying the content, especially on the 4Runner! Please do more videos on it such as upgrades etc. Not sure if you are on the t4r or other forums but the budget builds are very popular. Would love to see more detail like any additional mods, fixes or repairs (noticed the new 5th gen wheels) Did it get bigger tires too? Anything else? Thanks!
How’s the winch holding up three years later?
@9:00 Not ALL Toyota’s are notorious for going out of alignment with bumps or pot holes. Just wimpy IFS ones like Tacoma’s and 4-runners. My land cruiser does just fine.
How did you adapt the Tacoma bumper to fit the 4Runner?
I really liked this content. Your knowledge and humor is entertaining.
Thanks bud👍
Awesome thanks for the kind words!!
Dirt Complex The Tacoma bumper fit without modifications??
Mostly. The bottom bracket does not line up without modification. I will have an install video soon.
Nooooooo... it ended to soon can’t wait for part 2 😂😂🤙🏾
Thanks! Haha part 2 will be here soon!
That Doggo at 11:48 - OMG. Good Doggo.
He is all over the place while trying to be helpful, wag tail , sniff, run around, assure my Humans, repeat.
So cute, :-)
Haha the dog started barking when we were winching the jeep out!
Man I went to site to look for those cam bolt. Couldn’t find it and came back. See this was still being tested. Smh.
Same here.
Huum harbor freight may send you that money back and may use this video.lol...great video cus
HAHAH I wish. I tried to post this video on my review on their website and they've block it... twice!
Air bag will still deploy with battery disconnected. Short the cable side pos and neg to ensure caps. are drained completely.
Thanks! It's a good thing we didn't flip it Haha.
Any updates?
How is that apex holding up?
Such a great video. I love the small touches like the "fizzle" with the music a bit after the camera is shooting out the sunroof on trail. MoAr! Pleezs!
Thanks! I really appreciate the compliments! Next video will be gold mountain redemption. We also took a $900 Land Rover Discovery up the trail hahahaha.
Just weld up some square tubing in a T shape and stick that in your receiver hitch to stop it from rolling like that if you ever want to try this again and really hang the truck by the winch
That's a great idea. Maybe one day I'll do it again!
Wow!!! Impressive!
Thanks!!
Epstein is like Christmas lights, they don’t gang themselves 🤣🤣🤣
thumbs up for the epstein note. thnks for the laugh. i really needed it this week.
One thing....dead weight hanging is a lot different from pulling out of some deep mud suction.....adding almost half the weight of the vehicle, if not more. But I do know this winch will do it. Best winch for the money by far!!
@6:45, Most Legit Easter Egg ever.
Damn! Either way, that’s Bakst dude! I wouldn’t have dared to take it to that level!!!! Subbed just for that!!!!
Thanks for subbing!! More exciting videos to come.
Did you have to make any modification to get the bumper to fit ?
I have an 04 v8 4runner and also am looking to get that front bumper
The main bumper bolts on after cutting to clear the ac line. I'll put up an install video soon! Gonna get part 2 out first.
What bumper does that black FJ have?
So would you recommend the bumper?
Any update on those Bison Stop Cam Bolts? I haven't seen anything from them yet. I bought some Patagonia M/T's for my 4runner as well. Still waiting on my wheels though.
It's amazing how many people don't realize that you can lower your tire pressure's and 8t makes a huge difference in the snow.
Try it.
The sign was awesome
Advice on maintaining a 4th gen this long? Thanks
NASA Never A Straight Answer
I can't watch till the end, I own one of this V8 4 Runner :D
Wow I actually liked your video. Keep it up!
Thank you!!! Much appreciated.
You guys are funny as hell! Great quality video.
Thanks!
Since I had wrecked my Sentra in November i might put a full exo cage on it and some offroad tires and go ripping around with my fwd 4 banger
The most fun offroading is when you don't worry about every little scratch on your brand new paint. Sounds like a good time!
Got a like and subscribe for the "gas leak".
Maybe I'll see you around Lytle Creek
Did you have to mod your runner or that bumper at all to get the Tacoma bumper on the 4runner?
6:50 TRUTH IS IN THE PUDDING
Jesse Yakuta it’s ‘proof’ is in the pudding...
Appreciate the content. Having second thoughts about harbor freight winches now 🤔
Does the bumper just fit, or do you need modifications?
I put this same bumper on my 06 and it took a fair amount of mods to fit.
@@russmt4181 I'm curious what kind of mods? Mine is an 04, so I don't think I have to do the hood trim. Do the mounting bolts line up, or is there a bunch of work to be done there?
What's the link to bumper
Cool Video the Only Precaution I would give you is, when you using a much Heavier Crane to prevent your Vehicle from Falling and Smashing to the Hard Concrete Floor, is your Suppose to Following your Winching Up with the Crane, you let the Winch Continue up with out Taking the Slack out of the Crane. So if your Winch Failed your Crane would have Grab it, lets say you Followed it up, trailing your Winch by a Foot, but you Didn't so your FourWheeler would have Crashed all the Way Down to the Concrete Floor. About your Video, it's Awesome anyways, showed the Capability of the Winch, another TH-cam person did a Video, showed all the Extra's that came with it, I want One.
subscribed.. you gotta get that part 2 out asap.. also, is that milage on the same engine?! this 4R looks new!
Thanks! Just finished filming the rest of it today so it will be out very very soon! Haha yeah. The paint is actually faded in a lot of spots but the camera and silver color hides it.
Dirt Complex nice! Can’t wait to see the rest of it
Great stuff!!
U don’t let up on winch when your pulling
Great video, you and I got the same T4R, I just put trail edition wheels on my runner last week
Yeah these wheels look great. Great value as well!
@@DirtComplex I love those wheels
Lift and tire set up?
I would to see a real test on these winches. Like will it really pull 12000lbs as advertised.
What was the trail called?
Go north on Sheep Creek Truck Trail. Hang a left at the clearing/fork.
Lyttle creek off the 909 area?
We’re all waiting for your approval,
Tell us something we don’t know
I believe you are reading the shackle angle debating incorrectly. The shackle does not care what angle as long as rotating on the bolt axis. The derating looks to be when pulling the side.
That wasn't the only diagram I looked at. Most companies who post the specs show decreased working load with increased angle. Each company varies as far as what percentage it decreases, but what was stated in the video is generally true. Pulling at an extreme angle will start to spread the shackle and pull at the threads.
How much modification did you have to do to get bumper to fit?
The video starts with Harbor Freight had crappy quality merchandise but now it’s better. Seems like using a really nice truck is a huge risk to test the quality. Unless you have tons of cash seems too risky to me. But Im relieved it all turned ok. It was entertaining to watch.
Thanks! I personally do not have tons of cash. If I did it would have been a new 4runner being tested... not a 2005 with 478,000 miles on it that I got for under $3000 at the auction. hahahah.
What’s up with Tacoma guys putting the three amber lights on the grille do they think it’s a Raturd or something? 😂
Fr I saw like 3 yotas with Amber's already up front
Because it's super cool BRO. It's so sick and it's so awesome that the Tacoma's are trying to be like the Ford becuzzz Fords are the best trucks bro. MOAR LIGHTS MOAR LIKES! WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
@@DirtComplex haha I'll agree with you there thanks for answering back man I saw a few an was wondering is it stock on the new ones?
Haha yeah. Not stock, it's just one of those mods that turned into a trend cuz it does look pretty cool.
@@DirtComplex lol I see it honstly doesnt look to bad I think ima add them to my ranger here pretty soon thanks for the feed back much appreciated
Video went legend when he found the note!
Hahaha yeah he surprised us all with that move.