Meet the Glowforge 3D Laser Printer
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Four months ago, we visited the offices of Glowforge, a company developing a new kind of 3D laser printer. The Glowforge simplifies laser cutting by moving software to the cloud and making use of smartphone sensors. That both lowers the price and allows for incredible user features that makes the Glowforge extremely easy to use. As Glowforge readies to launch, we check in to check out the final product!
Find out more about the Glowforge at glowforge.com/
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This is a laser cutter, not a printer. I expected more from you Tested.
+Michael King When we see stuff like this, our standard is to use the name of the product. This is the name of the product.
+Tested not a 3d dimension onli laser cuter or borner is oli 2d not 3d stamp
+Tested That is somewhat even more disappointing. The manufacturer lying about its capabilities right off the bat.
+Michael King Well technically it's a laser engraver and like most of them, it can cut some materials.
+Michael King I think it's called 3d printes since it can not only cut things, but engrave them too. Not quite true 3d print, but 3d nonetheless
Best new T-shirt idea: "You don't understand: I have a laser."
Did not expect to watch the whole video, but found it absolutely fascinating. What a cool thing.
i am a complete novice when it come to things like this. ( a lack of experience in the field and age, are conspiring factors). However i find the concept of being able to draw a line and have it cut for me fascinating. fantastically simple and simply genious. well done.
Very cool. Title is a bit misleading though. It's more of a precision laser cutter/2D stencil than a 3D printer.
+Phil Verhey none of those words mean what you think they do.
+Phil Verhey Following your logic if I own two bicycles I actually have a car... ^_^
+Phil Verhey A laser is not a physical object that can be printed. When you print onto a piece of paper, you are printing ink and having it left behind. When you print using a 3D printer, you are either printing a binder, the material itself, or otherwise fusing the shape together to produce a 3D shape.
It doesn't plot data points. Data points aren't appearing on the object.
What this does is cut (or engrave). At best you could claim it as a laser mill.
Printers build up. Mills cut down.
So now you try and bring up imprinting when we are discussing printing?
If they call it a 3D printer, they are wrong.
Being capable of doing 3D designs doesn't make something a 3D printer.
Phil Verhey Where I am from High school English classes mainly focus on literature studies, not actual english.
Do you know what synonym means? Similar meaning, not same meaning.
If they were the same you would has said stuff like this:
"when celebrities or kids put their hands in cement, they PRINT the texture & shape of their hands at the depth applied"
The fact that you chose to use imprint rather than print shows that you know there is a difference.
Forget ignorance, dishonesty is bliss to the likes of you.
I'm generally pro-cloud, except for cases that involve otherwise dedicated hardware. Example: I have a 3d printer that uses a cloud-based slicer and has closed, proprietary firmware. The French company apparently folded (without any notice) and so the printer is only partially functional now. Dedicated hardware that relies on an external service to function will simply not last decades like dedicated hardware with on-board intelligence does.
Another example: there are hardware synthesizers which require the computer to program. Synthesizers that were made in the 70s are still in use today. Those 90s and 2000s synthesizers which required computers are no longer usable without having a dedicated Windows 98 or Pre-OSX system in your studio.
Unlike computers, tools and instruments tend to have a longer usable life, even when they've been leapfrogged by newer technology. Externally hosted services are ephemeral as are companies. To get the top of line model, it's $4500.
+Pete Brown Never considered this, good point.
+Pete Brown that's probably why they use google clouds, they dont expect google to go bankrupt...
+Tjerk176197 I don't think it's Google he's worried about going bankrupt.
+Pete Brown My point exactly. My 3D printer will work in 10+ years because the whole toolchain is open source. I can maintain it myself. If services are in the cloud, I don't have access to the code and I can't fix problems.
+Pete Brown Putting such simple things in the cloud is the stupidest thing ever. The minute I know it needs the cloud, it's worthless to me for exactly those reasons. Just give me open sourced software I can run on a laptop. That's it. It's like they use the cloud because "it's cool"
this just blew my mind! I saw the commercial in instagram and now I have a million idea for my business. This baby is what is going to put my business into a complete next level. we are now planning on buying one in September.
My theory about the "cloud software" bit is that they're trying to forestall cheap Chinese clones. Glowforge can authenticate the machine connecting to their software, so a clone would be crippled. If so, it's a doomed strategy, because lots of people could stick a cheap camera or two on a sub $1K laser cutter and add some simple software to follow lines. That's what most people will care about, and they won't notice subtleties like the fact that the Glowforge has autofocus (unlike most cheap laser cutters) or a nice, sharp TEM00 laser. The only benefit the buyer gets from these software shenanigans is to help keep Glowforge in business for a little longer so their cutter doesn't get bricked quite so quickly. Glowforge says they're going to "release the firmware" (presumably, they mean the source code), but only some teeny tiny percentage of the machine's buyers would be able to make any use of that when the cloud part permanently goes down (which, make no mistake about it, will happen sooner or later). For everyone else, they'll have an expensive table decoration unless someone starts selling replacement software (probably should have kept that idea to myself...).
I've already been burned a couple of times by buying into hardware that requires remote server ("cloud") support--never again, except for those cases where it's obviously necessary, as with cellphones.
The good thing about Glowforge is that they'll get everyone thinking about line-tracking laser cutters, so before long there will be a flood of add-ons for existing cutters that will provide this function, even if most of them are crap. For example, the huge tattoo industry could be a major consumer of these things ("Want me to turn your ink tattoo into something really badass? Stick your arm into this box.").
I hope Dan Shapiro comes to his senses and finds a fix for this serious flaw in his business model, because he seems like a sincere and intelligent guy and I'd truly like for him to succeed. The world needs a product like this, and if you can believe their marketing it looks like Glowforge has the wherewithal to pull it off. But they aren't getting a penny of my money until I'm convinced that I will truly own the product I'm paying for.
+Tom Burke the dash before Glowforge in your first sentence and the dash you wrote after sub makes all the inbetween crossed out. --like this--
i wonder if the people who usually make those machines... the stupidly complicated ones... see this and will say
"oh man why didnt we think of this" or "ah shit they figured it out"
+Hunter Rodrigez Yeah but something just designed is always bad.
Ofcourse good designer can make good product in first try. But in second try it will always be better.
Just look at stuff around you. Everything evolves. Someone created something. People were using it. Found what is missing. Basing on that knowledge they upgraded it. Then again.
Maybe they made it perfect but it is possible than in about year or two they will find next way to make it even easier in use and they you will say same thing. You just doesn't see now what is it missing. Some already did and you can find their thoughts above in comments.
So they will probably say "oh man why didnt we think of this", but glowforge can say it in the future too.
DrawDeath Dude we had this technology for decades and yet most machines like that (like automated drills for example) are still based on a stupidly complicated programming language instead of a visual interface...
And if some designer who just thought it would be a cool idea to make this simpler can do it you can bet your ass that the people who make those machines can do it too... They can probably do it even better
***** You just see how they evolve lol
Just someone sow money/need in making them simple and he did
Maybe tools to make it that simple were created recently
5 years ago I think this would be project worth whole microsoft, not it isn't.
+DrawDeath exactly, my school has three and the interface is really dumb. Once companies start getting competition like this Lazer cutter the innovation will begin. I can imagine for a typical architecture school you can give every incoming student one of these.
Ricardo Chavez Yeah, that's what I think too ^^
I'm going to apply to art school in upcoming year and I know that they have 3D printers. I hope they will get such laser cutter too ^^
Great product but this guy could sell a broken vacuum cleaner to anyone, very well spoken.
+John Grammaticus "brand new fully broken top of the line Hoover. Best part is, this vacuum unlike others, does not suck!"
They did an amazing job taking cost out of this thing and removing needless complexity, major props. Devices that rely on cloud services usually just frustrate me more than anything but there are companies that get it right and when they do it's pretty fantastic. I might get one once the product matures a bit and is out of the crowdfunding cycle. Bravo guys
title = "Laser cutter with vision based nesting software"
+Mekhanic1 On the glow forge website it is listed as "the 3D laser printer"
+CephalopodsRock So they should change the title too. I guess they called it so to get more attention while 3d printers are popular.
+Mekhanic1 "2D printer for wood"
+Jukepoksi box Printer? Sorry, I mean cutter, of course.
+Mekhanic1 When I read the title, I thought it was going to be a laser sintering 3d printer.
Love the idea at first glance... Whats to prevent this thing from becoming a useless brick when they potentially go under? Or they could decide that they no longer want to put money in keeping the servers up-to-date as tech on the computer or iPad changes? It requires internet access to use, which is not big as long as they are still around. No thanks. That is why the more expensive ones are better. This is making it more of a potential disposable piece of equipment. It still costs to much for it to potentially be useless after 3 years. ROI is still important and this is very risky.
Love his obvious excitement about it. Seems to really have a passion for it. But until I can do it all on my local computer like with my 3D printer I am not going to buy into it. Cloud is not the answer for this kind of tech.
+ackackBarf I've have posted similar concerns so I won't re-hash here. Does anyone but me remember when "the Cloud" was nothing more than an icon on a Visio diagram?
+ackackBarf yeah i have the same concern as soon as he said cloud... yeah i am sorry but the users device ipad pc etc also has plenty of power use it.
With something in the $1k+ range, yeah there needs to be a even in a limited way to use it locally with no inet connection.
Incredibly cool. I would jump all over that, if they open sourced the software or at least made it available to run locally.
Lots of great startups don't make it for a variety of reasons.
I would totally buy the pro model, but what if the company shuts down and the cloud service is no longer available?
I was a co2 and Nd yag laser technician for 20 years. I interned at Trumpf and worked for Coherent in various roles. Worked on co2 gain cells from 10w up to 2.5kw laser systems. Q switch, raider and pulse systems as well. We mad systems like this back in 1998. Its nice to see you can buy a compact laser system at a great price point. I will be sourcing components to build my own ;) but what a great deal man! P.S. If you need any Laser Techs, Let me know and I will forward my resume.
Never had an interest in laser cutters before, but this video has me sold. I'm getting one.
Glowforge looks interesting. The problem is it requires that the laser printer access software on the Glowforge server every time you use it. If you can't reach the server, if they shut it off, if they go out of business then you have an expensive hunk of machine that no longer works.
This is exactly what happened to the customers of Revolv when Nest bought them. They decided it was too much trouble to keep the Revolv servers operating.
So beware any system that requires software-in-the-cloud to work. This is especially true of startups.
Does it measure in metric like the rest of the planet?
There are two kinds of countries. Those who use the metric system, and those who have set foot on the moon.
+1rad58 And those who brought the wrong bridge in London and only know a flag that their country is a war with
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touché
+1rad58 There are two kinds of countries. Those who have not set foot on the moon, and those who have to beg for a ride to get into LEO.
This is so awesome!! I want one... people are saying its not worth it for what it will be in 3 years (or whenever,if ever, they stop keeping up with the online server) but I see it for what it is now! An amazing piece of tech that if used properly could pay for itself in no time!
"you understand... you have a gift"... the best quote ever
"3D", "Printer".... I hope some secretary made this title and not the technology journalists that this channel should have.
Nonetheless a very very cool concept, very fine engineering.
+Eekhoornstaartlolly This is the name of the product. We didn't get into it in the video, but I thought it was pretty silly to call a laser cutter a 3D laser printer.
+Tested I think its because it can track depth in the cutting material that the makers are adding that 3D label on it. It is misleading but to a point i suppose.
+Eekhoornstaartlolly real z-achsis would be pretty great, they didn't specify the possible height.
+Eekhoornstaartlolly I personally don't like the term "3D printers" since they are so far off from what a print actually is. They are material disposers and object builders. Or something. But maybe these guys should go with Laser cutter + 3D engraver. I'd like to have one either way.
Tested Ah, that explains. Because the quality of this channel makes it hard to believe foe me that this was a mistake. Silly name indeed, a cutter/engraver with such a name will only spread confusion I think. Maybe they'll change it. On the other hand a "laser 3d printer" did catch my eye, so maybe good marketing haha
Don't see why it needs to be cloud powered, just make it plug into a computer like a regular printer.
the software looks like a huge improvement over what most of us have on our lasers. have you used a laser?
+Dan Holzrichter doesn't matter, this software could be run by most computers and should be a stand alone application, they just didn't want to develop specific applications for each os, choosing the option to just have a website instead. Plus with no way to connect offline that was shown, it can become a useless piece of junk after so many years or months of the company goes under
+100eyes What's the difference? 10 years down the line when you're using OS X 25 or Windows 20 the drivers won't work anymore anyway. Any hardware product has an end of life. Just because you can plug it into your PC doesn't mean it will work forever.
+Tecnologia Brasil You don't know the difference between a hardware that requires constant connection to the internet and one that's standalone?
I never said I expected it to last forever. The issue is being able to use the printer while the internet is down or unavailable.
There are also plenty of old fashioned trade professionals(mechanics, welders, etc.) who still use their 10 year old Dell systems with Windows XP in their shop.
I would've thought someone from Brasil, a country where less than half the population has internet access, would see that.
I'm laughing imagining you talking like a tough guy with your ridiculous voice.
Yeah, an easy to use machine for the rest of us which requires programming knowledge if the cloud goes down. Real thought out, you imbecile.
Keep making your chipmunk videos; I'll go ahead and block/ignore you like those poor souls in the favelas.
Using this on a large scale in going to revolutionize products are made and bought from stores around the world. Once these designs are compact and portable their will be nothing to stop them from taking over the world of production and how we see the buying and selling of products worldwide. I can't wait to see what company wins this race first!
Jaw on floor. Gonna miss you Will. Good luck on your new project.
thats a laser cutter not a laser printer
+in6seconds they said that on the vid tho
+anationify cutters and printers are totally different things
anationify That sounds too much science! Give that man a cookie
+anationify just because they both have a laser involved doesn't mean they are the same, printers and cutters are completely different
+in6seconds I see now where you're coming from. Now i shall proceed to delete my earlier comments im shame after i realized that i hadn't even understood what we were fighting about
XD I died at "YOU HAVE A GIFT!" lololol
Relief carving coming. AWESOME!! As always TESTED gets us interviews with the latest cool hardware innovators. THANKS TESTED!!
It's refreshing to see a laser being applied to art instead of predictable 'futuristic' stuff; not to make anything 'better' by making silly over-enthusiastic designs, but to make the hard work of good design and quality materials easier, more precise, more economical, and of course more accessible.
They made a new laser because all the existing ones where expensive and made it just as expensive if not more expensive...
Heck you can get a 40W 12x8 laser engraver shipped from the US for less than 400. Smaller area but enough for most projects, and for the savings, I'd live with manually focusing the laser. It also works if you lose internet ;)
The only thing I worry about is what if Glowforge go under, there's no way to control your hardware...
+beatchef
Here is a quote from Dan Shapiro (Glowforge Founder and CEO) in the Shapeoko 3 forum from a couple days ago on the topic of the cloud based solution. . .
"We’ve heard a ton of amazing feedback from our community in the 12 or so hours since Glowforge has launched, and one question stood out to us: what if you buy a Glowforge, and something happens to us?
This came up both in person at MakerCon while we demo’d the unit and online, particularly in the lively discussion on Hacker News. Because Glowforge is powered by the cloud, it’s an important question. Long term, we’re working on some cool solutions, but short term, here’s a commitment we’ll make right now: When we launch Glowforge, we’ll also release a copy of the firmware under GPL.
Glowforge firmware is user-flashable, so you’ve got both an escape hatch (if something happens to us) and a platform to experiment with. If you buy it, it’s yours - you should be able to do what you want with it."
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TeleBeam Thanks TeleBeam
+TeleBeam this is all cool and Ok if and if someone make a good software to run on windows...
+snajperSLO What would be nice is if they also release the software they have on the cloud so you can do it yourself, so if they do go out of business, or you don't have Internet, you can set it up yourself, using your computer (or a raspberry pi) as the cloud.
The firmware itself will just let you try and reverse engineer something, and there are already plenty of options out there which will likely work. It lacks several of the main selling points of this.
And appealing to cost doesn't help, as running a cloud service costs money, money that must be paid continually to keep the service running. Letting the user run it on their computer costs nothing. putting dedicated hardware into the unit will cost a bit, but in the long run, likely not as much as the cloud.
As there isn't a subscription, the cost of the printer must be significantly increased in order to fund the cloud.
+Jeffrey Black i think this is just a real shitty business tactic i love the product but how they handle the cloud thing really sucks . hey here is the firmware so you are safe if we go down ... what the fuck is wrong with them .how am i going to cut anything with just the firmware bunch of dumbasses. i am not giving then 3500 dollars for a pro version if they dont even include a frikkin standalone program to run this laser cutter .
and the talk about making it cloud based so its cheaper to build is just bullshit . instead they should just go ahead and give you both cloud and standalone software so u can use it how you want to use it
Very interesting! Can't wait to see more about that laser printer in future!
I don't care what it's called I just think this machine looks really nice. I really want one!!
"You do everything else on your iPad, Mac, Linux machine... or anything else..." Someone doesn't like Microsoft! ;)
+Stuart White heard that too, though the same thing...lol
when he was saying it uses web interface he wasn't very happy while saying Microsoft XD
+Nihad I meant windows
Stuart White dude I know a stupid friend of mine who can barely afford food who saved money to but an iPhone last year and now is saving to buy the no ishit6s
+Stuart White There are two distinct camps for everything. Coke vs Pepsi, the old Nintendo vs Sega but now its PS4 vs XB1, Apple vs Microsoft, and so on. It's crazy. I like both Apple and Microsoft.
All interest vaporizes as soon as you say "cloud".
You cab download a copy of the firmware once you buy the laser. It's on their website.
+Cameron Barrett Firmware != software (to clarify: this basically means it's on a third party to create standalone software people can use to control the printer)
+Dr Shaym Yea, same here. So, one day they can say: ok we don't support this model anymore, so we are shutting down all the servers.
+Dr Shaym
Cloud is the MOST exciting piece of this. Crawl out from under your prehistoric rock and see how Amazon is using "the cloud" as evidence on how the constant refinement of abilities is being done without having to push updates to people and product and install/upgrade.
In addition to that, Glowforge has already said that an open source, public domain version of their service will be made available. Do your research before trolling misinformation.
+Raymond Chase Please see responses in my comments. They have not agreed to releasing any form of the service. The firmware is super basic stuff. They said it's not a g-code interpreter, so it's essentially worthless.
Yes, the cloud is the most exciting part of this. They're doing some really cool stuff there! In fact, they're doing *everything* there. It's also the most likely thing to turn your cutter into an expensive brick when this company decides it costs to much to keep supporting it, they close up shop, or they're sold to a larger company with no interest in supporting older products. All of these things have happened before.
This is probably the best subtractive laser printing I've ever seen.Abso-f*ckingly cool!I look forward to acquiring one of these babies at some point.
As a frequent user of our entry-level 5k laser cutter at work this makes me super excited!
Looks cool, until he mentions "the cloud". Most of us were over that 10 years ago.
+James Dreger uh huh, if they give you the option to install the computing software on your local machine it would be a selling point for me
+DutchBrony Exactly ! Don't tie me to the cloud, it's ridiculous. Let's say I decide to make something cause the internet is down and I am bored, I can't do it cause it needs the internet to work. There is no need for that.
+James Dreger Cloud can have some real benefits, but this is not using those. They're doing it to save a couple dollars. See my other comment for why I think this is a Really Bad Idea.
Daniel G It could've been written in a platform agnostic language like Java, python, Node.JS etc. They HAD to go with the cloud... smh
+James Dreger More like 7-8 years ago but who's counting anyway...
They had me, right up to having to use their server 'in the cloud' :/
Yeah really, dem upsells are deal breakers.
They even said that they're not asking for subscriptions.
Simon What about when *they* decide they no longer want to support your version of the product. It happens, just ask all those old Nest (revolv) users? Using the 'cloud' for stuff like this is a poor idea and takes power away from the user/owner. If a product requires the cloud then the product is defective.
This is SO COOL! I'd love to get my hands on one of these!
i find it interesting that the one concern that i've seen on pretty much every forum or platform discussing this machine is " if company goes under I would be stuck a machine that does not work." like it most certainly should be able to work straight from your computer. we ordered one back in october....so we won't be receiving the unit until 2017. hopefully they'll address those concerns sooner than later.
Am I the only one scared of devices that will be rendered completely useless in case the company maintaining the "cloud" service of it goes bankrupt, stops supporting EOL devices, etc?
+Toni Lähdekorpi Nope. Lots of people here with that concern.
+Toni Lähdekorpi The only sensible decision with regards to their software stack was that it is actually a web app, rather than forcing anyone who wants to use it to buy a fucking iPad. Based on what had gone before i was genuinely surprised.
+phatfish001 web app maintained by them. What if they stop maintaining it for any number of valid reasons?
+Toni Lähdekorpi I don't think that is as big an issue as you might think. If for some reason Google stopped doing cloud hosted computing, you could still take the virtual servers and move them to a different provider (Amazon, Microsoft, etc.), or Glowforge could work up to hosting their own servers if they started getting big. Cloud hosting is very flexible and will be around for the foreseeable future.
Caleb Brant I wasn't talking about the hosting itself (I'm a sysadmin...), but rather the company.
If the company owns all rights to the software running in the virtual machine, containers or whatever, we can't use it if they stop supporting it.
The only option in that case would be to either for them to release it for the public to use on their own servers, or for someone to reverse-engineer everything and recreate it.
Not supporting old hardware and software is very common these days. It even happens with random consumer electronics.
For example, Philips stopped manufacturing a HEPA filter for my vacuum cleaner after just a couple of years. Nobody is even selling a compatible filter...
The same happens with software.
seriously, 3d laser printer...
+Granite Yeah, I was expecting raised letter business cards and puffy ink t-shirts!
+Granite The name is purely click bait, because of the huge 3d printer hype, that is what people will be searching for rather than a Laser CNC cutting machine which is what this is.
+Granite The primary principle is to cut out 2D shapes that are used to create 3D objects as they did with the motive. Also the laser can cut 3D patterns in materials. They didn't even talk about it during this video. Keep in mind, however, you are dealing with the thicknesses of the materials you are cutting so you aren't going to cut a sphere or cube out of a 1/8" sheet of ply. It's mainly for adding decorations, text, etc.
Squash I get your point. It should be called a cutter, but it does print (burn images, lines, et) also, but regardless it's not a 3D printer.
+Squash "laser printer" sounds more approachable than "laser cutter". It's a marketing decision.
I LOVE IT - Exactly what the tinkerer/thinker/fabricator needs.
I think this is the first time I've actually wanted to go out and buy something that I don't have the money for.
So when this cloud service becomes discontinued this will be an expensive paperweight.
It's a 3D laser CUTTER.
no, it's a 2D laser cutter.
this is just SO FREAKEN BADASS dude thanks for your existence.
Glowforge guy should rent himself out to large corps to help sell their new models/ideas. His voice... I would buy anything he talks about!!
To me this seems way cooler than a standard 3d printer.
+Jonathan Henthorn Yeah, seems that way too me too, but it's mis-branding for them to call it a 3d printer since it doesn't perform the same kind of functions.
+Jonathan Quarles I think people who spend the money for this thing will know exactly what it does.
It's actually funny to think about someone buying this, setting it up at home, opening the app, and then being all: "OMG, I can't print Warhammer characters with this?!?!"
+Jonathan Henthorn Lol, but I think you could but it would be harder.
I agree with a lot of the commenters who think the cloud is a bad idea for something like this. Give me a local version of the cloud software (even if if is 5-10x slower than the cloud) and I'd be a potential customer (cash flow is the primary limitation right now). I don't want to be SoL by software running somewhere else if the company fails or my internet goes down.
This is a great new piece of hardware. Good for getting lots of people into the laser cutting industry.
I can think of a 1001 uses for this kind of machine, and then some more. Really neat system. i Love it.
Also what is up with their laser continiously causing flames? That's not actually normal, looks like it has a huge kerf. How are you going to get replacement grids? There's a reason lasercutters have large air filtration units and cooling circulation, they are dangerous machines (Seeing an open laser tube is not a nice sight). What magically makes this unit not need any of that? Where are the toxic gasses going? Even WITH air filters it still needs to have an escape, you can't just keep building up and circulating such gasses. Drawing on the material is a software function, but not even illustrator does vector translation from drawings perfectly, so why would this software do? Why is there no way of just running it locally? "It allows us to make it better over time" Or the opposite: Once you go bankrupt your machine is USELESS because you can't run it. "Fixed Alignment" as a feature? Adjustable alignment machines also are factory calibrated, but ANY machine will EVENTUALLY run out of calibration when moving or being involved with heat. Not being able to calibrate it just means it will slowly lose accuracy, rather than just being able to be adjusted. This had promise, but way way way too much seems to be based on gimmicks, fancy design rather than a purpose built tool that you can keep up and running. "People keep watching because it's cool", what? It's important to keep continious vision, things can always go bad. You have a camera built in, great, why don't you use it for more useful things such as fire detection?
Oh great, I missed the end; didn't know it even came with a built in design-store where you can sell your designs! Wow! In-app purchases on your lasercutter!
If you look at the flame it's very still. In my experience flames from laser cutting are made erratic from the turbulence of the air extraction. My guess is that they shut off the air for audio reasons. I could be wrong though.
+Everfalling Good point. In fact, now that I look more closely, the whole air filtration unit that they talk about is completely missing from the lasercutter they're using. I wonder if they actually already finished the design for it...
+Chibs With the cutter they are using for this demo there is clearly a large silver tube leading out of the back of the machine that as he said during the first segment is for connection to an extractor. and no the machine is not complete as it is in preorder again, as was said in the video.
Put all the cloud processing into a PC and i will be a customer. The features are great. Cloud, not so much. Processing power is currently so cheap it does not need to be in the cloud. With some effort you could probably get it into a raspberry pi, increasing the price of the laser cutter with about 40US$. Cloud is great for websites, smartphone apps etc. Once you have a machine that needs to produce to get your investment back you need everything tightly connected with the least number of points of failures. Internet has the largest amount of failure points, from your own router to the isp's to all the nodes in between. I run a 1300x1000mm laser cutter and guess what all the computing power has been done on a PC. The laser just interprets some gcode. The concept is not new. The aligning is. Could probably be made as an add-on for existing laser cutters.
What lazer cutter do you use?
That is a supremely fantastic device. Still an expensive piece of hardware, but much much more affordable than the industry 11 grand item! Very cool stuff.
Amazing machine expertly demonstrated thank you. I was particularly impressed with Dan's knowledge and passion for his product. I cannot wait to see this product made available to the general public at an affordable price.
Looks really cool except for the terrible idea of cloud software :(
I feel sorry for the Tested member having to answer some of these moronic comments..
The title of the video is what the product is called.. It's not their fault that's the name.
These are much better than the usual comments :)
that's bad ass,props to the designer. im getting one of these.
Something we use in carbon fiber manufacturing in the aircraft industries is using a low power laser to project on the tool for orientation alignment ect. this could be used to show exactly where the laser is to etch.
This is not a 3D printer. This is a laser cutter.
With out a Z axis you can NOT 3d print it is 2D only.
Meet the awesome machines I'll never have.......
T_T
+TheDeralte I'm with you. $2,000 is cheap for what it is, but way too expensive for me.
Yeah, I saw that too. I'm not complaining since the product is remarkable, it's just out of my price range.
_(Translation: My wife would kill me.)_
+TheDeralte well i'm in college right now and im really considering buying one.....
+Tom Miller thats only the early bird price. it shoots up to $4000 later on.
JDxGaming
The price could be $1000 and it would still be an impossible sell. I don't care how many purses and candle holders I made.
funny how everyone is complaining about how they called it a "3D Laser Printer" but I'm just here goin THIS IS SO COOOL!! I WANT ONE!!
"Just through the pollutants out the window". That was my only problem. Once this becomes huge, and it will, we must absolutely have an onboard filter that is easily replaceable and cheap. Perhaps a 2-in-a-row type. Besides that, this is hands-down, the best one yet.
But, will it cut Crysis 3?
But will it run Crisis? (Linus)
Nice video. I am just getting started researching laser systems and appreciate the insight to Glowforge beginnings. The dollhouse at 12:00, haha!
Considering the results, the pricing, ease of use and the flexibility, this is a huge leap forward!
I'm pretty disappointed. I thought this was going to be a 3D printer that somehow used a laser. This is a laser cutter.
Guys, thats no "3D laser printer", thats a plane Laser Cutter. No 3D, no printing. Pls correct your title, its misleading.
Ah, and yes, the product title is misleading, too. Thumbs down on trying to catch in on customers in such a shameful way of marketing.
An amazing little master of the physics-graphics-inventor universe... so well done. Gotta have it.
lol "You don't understand! You have a gift!"
YOU'RE GONNA PUT ALLOT OF TRADITIONAL CRAFT PEOPLE ...
OUT OF BUSINESS.
Oh well, the price of progress.
+VL VIDEOS Or, those traditional craft people obtained a tool that allows them to do better job? I got a 3d printer and it helped me tremendously.
+Darth Biomech
I agree.
See, the machine is only relatively inexpensive. what will happen is that these will pop up in design stores and people will charge to use them. This helps the craftsmen more than ever.
Laser printer? Laser cutter. VERY OVERPRICED and DECEPTIVE!
Very nice, when he said subscription I was expecting some ridiculous price that you would have to pay monthly, but it's really cool to see that it's free, a very nice product.
Wow, I am an electrical engineering technology student and our labs have all of the same bench top equipment except for the oscilloscopes. Ours are quite a bit older. I wonder if the function generator, power supplies and multi-meters are packaged together or something.
"you got to understand that you have gift" " you got to understand i have a laser" best dialogue i have heard in a while
This is exactly what I do for a living! Well sort of except I use a CAD software to extrude a product or idea up from a 2D model. Awesome.
I really like the idea, just thinking of how many things in printing and more it can do, I would be glad to test it for anyone buying.
Dan, your level of logic thinking and common sense makes me think your a Vulcan with bobbed ears. Impressive product.
I need that Catan game! It's beautiful !
This would be amazing for drafters and architects. Just wow.
I'd really like to see like a 6ft board threw the pro model being cut , it could make construction on more precise things a lot easier.
"You don't understand, you have a gift!"
"No...you don't understand.....I have a LASER"
This is the coolest machine I've seen in a long time
Cool piece of kit...
love it - my next tool - Thanks Tested
wow you could engrave signatures perfectly and uniquely
killer!!!!!! subscribed buddyamazing edit
I paid the full price for Glowforge Pro and I finally got the confirmed delivery date would be around March 2017, which indeed is a long long wait, it might have a lot of break edge tech. come to the market with a better spec. even more powerful than Glowforge! I really amazed by Glowforge the first time I saw it on the Web. That's why I bought it. honestly, about 5000 USD include delivery is a cheap toy for me. If Glowforge really looking for someone to test your Beta version, people like us who already paid but disappointed from you on the delivery and service would be a better choice
"Now I'm going to get technical and talk about physics" *grade 8 physics ensues*
I can't wait for mine to arrive this year. WOOOHOOO
That is one cool machine! Looks like a cool business opportunity for those who have $4,000 to buy one right now. There are so many specialty areas a small business could cater to with something like this. It brings physical productivity into the office at the click of a mouse! Like with customized T-shirts, you could offer customized cell phone and device case designing.
Damm you tested... now i need this laser cutter!
Super cool, I don't have any use for it now, but someday!
Wow, oh man, incredible!
It would be very cool if you could tap into the cameras used for registering your print bed for timelapses
This is a seriously cool piece of tech
My sister would kill for this. She does water jet cutting for making custom gaskets (and whatever else she sneaks in), but those are big machines not suited to her little house -- or budget. This would be perfect for her.
Wow beautiful, neat n not bulky!