Jamie DeWolf, "The God and the Man" / Snap Judgment LIVE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2011
- Watch as L. Ron Hubbard's Great Grandson, Jamie DeWolf, smashes against his family legacy with a breathtaking performance about the secret history of Scientology.
For more storytelling magic, subscribe to the Snap Judgment podcast: www.SnapJudgment.org/podcast
Original score by composed by Alex Mandel. Performed by Alex Mandel and the Snap Judgment Playaz (David Brandt and Tim Frick).
Film Editing by Will Urbina.
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I've never seen past my own disgust long enough to truly consider the pain and heartache Hubbard inflicted on people. His own family though? It's all so hard to fathom.
What a story teller! Mr. DeWolf may have inherited that talent from his forefather. But he uses it to improve the world around him, not to deceive others or damage them!
The same set of tools can be used to destroy...or build a masterpiece.
LRH had another son, Quentin, who committed suicide when he was only 22. This poor kid had a hellish childhood, too.
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This was chilling.
Clearly, charisma runs in the family, too.
this is chilling. the prison version of Hubbard. fantastic.
Jamie: Thank you! Your ability to create and help us all laugh about this twisted,
evil subject.....well, as one who was "in" for 30 years.....Your message is
a m a z i n g. I met you in 2000, right after I'd escaped OUT---and we were both new to public speaking. WOW have you come a lonnnnnnnnnnng way. :)
ToryMagoo44 That was amazing to witness, thank you Tory!
+ToryMagoo44 So this is for real? I mean, this is no play, man is telling the truth? I see that you know him, so I ask you weather some parts or all of the story is fiction? Or it's true? I am stunned, it's so powerful.
Here in Balkans we still keep the art of storytelling, and the truther is the story, the stranger and stronger it gets. It's the stage that confuses me, I doubt that from the stage I've ever heard the truth:-)
Jamie ought be sought out to be in any movie about Scientology. He to me has been the only one to obliquely apologize and explain the original L. Ron Hubbard. Jamie explains it best.
My dad told me all about this decades ago. Damn near the same story. He called it the definition of a hoax.
I am Tom Cruise and I disapprove this message.
"L-Ron is that you, it's me Tom!" South Park.
Show me the money!
lol
I haven't watched this for a few years but it still has immense power. I know exactly what is being described here. A wonderful performance.
This story gives me chills every time! Love Jamie DeWolf!
In watching how the great-grandson speaks it's easy to see the charisma buried in the DNA. Fortunately the great-grandson doesn't seem to be nearly as batsh*t crazy.
are you kidding????
Excellent performance exposing Scientology by Jamie DeWolf Grandson of L. Ron Hubbard
#cult
Pretty amazing to listen to .. I could not begin to even imagine what it's like being the grandson of one of the worlds largest & dangerous Con artist
it sounds like he'd like to follow in lrh's footsteps. he clearly idolized him.
Take that Tom Cruise.
WOW!!!!! i remember when those guys first started appearing in the late '60's. I knew they were a cult and even though i had real psych problems, they hit my ear and bounced off into space. The Moonies were around about then, too. and the horrible gurus who had their cults!! (there were good spiritual leaders, i'm not talking about them.) This kid is really good and the music is perfect. more power to him and i hope we hear more from him . . .
Awesomely written and performed and taped. Art and truth merged into a compelling work!
Whenever I'm in Amsterdam (Holland) and I'm walking pass the Scientology building, I gawk through the long glass front into the reception as I slowly walk by, shaking my head at whoever is on the desk......it confuses the hell out of them and funny to see their reactions. I can't honestly believe people follow such idiocy.
14 people have not yet reached operating thetan level 2.
Scientology also known as Cruise control (Tom)
Wow, that was something, really something. Shivers through my body. Brilliant, powerful, perfect delivery. Wow!
Wow! This is a MUST Watch!
As he is talking about how his grandfather changed his last name to finally be done with the Church of S hounding him...I become very worried for Jamie DeWolf's current family. Isn't this speech enough provocation to start the hounding all over again?
I'm always amazed at how people like him can memorize such long monologues.
It's probably not as hard for him with this one as it is his life and that of his family. Most likely based on many family stories and family discussions. But yeah i was thinking the same thing as he put so much emotion, it was like he was channeling the story.
When it's not a monologue to you, but rather a true tale of your life, the life your father lived, and the legacy that has cursed the family after a con-man relative created a cult that has managed to blossom into the fucked up so called religion we today know as Scientology it's most likely as easy as repeating the ABC's.
He was probably reading a screen that's why he was always looking up xD
The scientology tattoo on his elbow is hilarious, I don't think I noticed that last time, but then, can't see tattoos on the radio.
Hopefully it’s ironic
never been a scientologist, but the deceit is so obvious. Thanks for spreading the truth
Amazing story and as an aside marvelous music backdrop.
If you want to hear more music like that, just search "Bill Frisell." The band in this video lifted their entire sound from Frisell and his band (don't get me wrong, it sounded great, but let's give credit where it's due).
filmjazz Thanks for the tip, will give them a look when time permits. =]
As far as origin stories go, this one is pretty dark. Sad and horrifying that it's true, too.
L. Ron Hubbard was a mediocre writer (I barely survived "Battlefield Earth" back in High School) and, by the sounds of it, a really awful human being.
David Rust - you give him WAY too much credit as a writer. Battlefield Earth was utter trash! L Ron Hubbard had no story-telling talent at all as a writer and wrote wildly unlikely tales with little or no actual character development. I had a friend who got hooked on Scientology and poured all of his money into it, destroyed his marriage and I completely lost track of him - he just disappeared somewhere. Hubbard was a truly despicable man!
Hankusb - Well, I survived "Battlefield Earth" but found it odd that you could literally (and I mean that as in actually, for reals) pull out about 500 pages from the middle and not effect either your reading comprehension or the pacing of the story. The rough concept? Sound. Even interesting. The story-telling? Dreadful and padded. He was an okay story-teller but a poor writer.
First: Don't judge Hubbard by the later writings bearing his name. I agree, these are complete drivel. But among the plethora of pulp nonsense he wrote in the earlier decades of the twentieth century, he did write some things which are actually quite good. Had he remained a pulp writer, he might not have been a household name, but those who love the pop writing of that era could easily hold him in respect. Pity he didn't take that route.
Second: Take a look at the biography of Robert A. Heinlein, who knew Hubbard from his early days. Even then he was scarcely what one could call trustworthy as a human being, and Heinlein soon soured on him. He was not alone.
Despite my general disapproval of organized religions, this one started as a "science of the mind," and much that he wrote in that vein and the vein of philosophy is quite lucid, well-informed, and I think, quite correct (a hallmark of a good con). If only he'd not created a church and hyped his methods indicating unrealistically grandiose results, his ideas might be helping more people (rather than just failing to create perfectly "clear" people) today.
skidancin Just how did you miss the evil present in his motives and methods? Rewind.
Rest in peace, Lisa McPherson.
may she always be remembered. and always be a thorn in the side of scamology!
Totally off topic... but this dude looks like Louie C.K's little brother.
Preface: This poem was awesome.
OT: Yeah, I totally thought of Louis C.K. when I was watching this. Like, Louis C.K. before he went bald and just said, "aw, fuck it." lol. Glad I'm not the only one.
He's kind of a mix between Louis and Michael Rapaport
Is any faith that threatens you with punishment if you question its tenets or speak the truth any less evil? The argument of degrees of compulsion is moot if, at any point, a person remains out of fear rather than faith. I would argue that using the threat of losing one's family due to excommunication is more fundamentally evil than the threat of lawsuits.
Yeah, excommunication is for Catholics too, right? And for Liberals too, lol, if you express conservative views.
Wow. I would follow this man till the ends of the earth. Oh oops!
LOL....Good one....
yeah, he is that good. But he's not trying to get you to follow him. this is great theatre - based onlife.
Alexa Penn You fail.
huh?????? i'm like huh!?
Alexa Penn The OP was referring to Jamie DeWolf's grandfather (L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology), because his followers would follow LRH "to the ends of the earth". That's why the OP said "Oh oops!" at the end. You failed to catch that.
Wow, so much greatness in this, but personally what I found to be most appealing, to have the most truth and relevance to society and mankind as a whole, was when he said "if you don't have facts, all you need is faith". So true, yet so absolutely ignored by countless people of all races, colors, and nationality. Self imposed ignorance, the most important requirement by followers of myth and superstition.
Nice appeal to ridicule and argument from ignorance.
Brian Pierson Would you mind expanding on your comment please?
Quagigitymire He's saying you're an asshat.
hayes pearson I kinda figured that was the sum of it. Maybe he took offense to my followers of myth and superstition comment, that or he's a Scientologist.
Well yes, you're the ignorant one. You can't say it's a myth.
thank you so much Tory for the video and the links. Now I will have them with my big cup of Coffee! you are the best!
So good.....I watched it again!
I love coming back and rewatching this
That guitar in the background was a little overkill for me
This is incredible!
Geez. And I thought *my* father had issues...I can't hold a candle to Jamie nor his grandfather...
I wonder if Tom Cruise has watched this
INCREDIBLY DEEEP ......I know he wants nothing to do with the Monster his ancestor created..But he does have charisma, and Excellent Speaker
He speaks like Jesse Pinkman.
looks like he can be on meth too lol
This is absolutely amazing!! Well done!! And he was very brave to do this.....considering how scientologists are known to attack anyone that opposes them.
All I have to say is "Wow". The last 30-some seconds left me with chills. Very good
That was an intense testimony, I am glad there are people standing no matter the cost to shed light on the darkness. I pray for all those whose eyes are covered that they will see the light, the truth revealed to them.
This is excellent, just enjoying the flow and the message. :)
How does this not have billions of views
Jamie your an amazing storyteller. Keep on rocking it at the snap judgement! we need more of your stories.
What a performance! Love this podcast! Can't get enough!!!
Jaime, I have such deep respect for your strength and struggle. Growing up in L.A. I have had run-ins with the "church" and thank goodness my inner alarms sent me packing :) May your words, reach all those who need them and your strength inspire others to come forward and escape this heinous cult!
I like the way he says words.
Shockingly Amazing....you are a great speaker
whoah! you rocked it Jamie. bless you and thank you.
I thoroughly enjoyed each and every word.
This was absolutely brilliant.
Awesome...The best 9 minutes of my day
Sunlight always the best antiseptic, Thank you for this Jamie a job very well done!
Enjoyed your poems. And your unique word choices enhanced the poems emotional impact and kept me engaged throughout.
I’m a poet specializing in Japanese forms: haiku, tanka, haibun, kyoka, senryu. I hope you don’t mind me sharing a tanka and my haiku, a tribute poem to Bashō’s frog with commentary by the late AHA founder and poet Jane Reichhold who considered my Basho haiku among her top 10 haiku of all time. What an honor.
Here’s the Bashō poem and commentary:
Bashō’s frog
four hundred years
of ripples
At first the idea of picking only 10 of my favorite haiku seemed a rather daunting task. How could I review all the haiku I have read in my life and decide that there were only 10 that were outstanding? Then realized I was already getting a steady stream of excellent haiku day by day through the AHA
forum.
The puns and write-offs based on Basho's most famous haiku are so
numerous I would have said that nothing new could be said with this
method, but here Al Fogel proved me wrong. Perhaps part of my delight in this haiku lies in the fact that I agree with him. Here he is saying one thing
about realism-ripples are on a pond after a frog jumps in, but because it refers back to Basho and his famous haiku, he is also saying something about the haiku and authors who have followed him. We, and our work, are just ripples while Basho holds the honor of inventing the idea of the
sound of a frog leaping is the sound of water
As haiku spreads around the world, making ripples in more and larger ponds, its ripples are wider-including us all. But his last word reminds us all that we are ripples and our lives ephemeral. It will be the frogs that will remain.
~~
And my tanka:
returning home
from a Jackson Pollock
exhibition
I smear my face with paint
and morph into art
~~
-All love in isolation
from Miami Beach,
Florida,
Al
Thanx!
this is great!! really really great.... real insightful and honest
worth listening to multiple times.
what Isolde Eleison said downthread. I'd read all of that, but OMG, the way he tells it, the intensity, is awesome. well done! speak truth to power!
Performance of the decade. Keep on telling it like it is Jamie.
Nice to see Lafayette made something beautiful, there is hope. Thanks Jamie.
Wow!! What a great performance.
Wow... I loved it, not only the topic, but the way he told it...
I saw a black and white video, was an interview on a ship, he joked saying "I could make my own religion," was like it was done with an 8mm camera.
"Upon a staff evaluation of Manson when he entered prison in July 1961 at the U.S. penitentiary in McNeil Island, Washington, Manson entered "Scientologist" as his religion."
Wikipedia gives the sources for this information but under the Freedom of Information Act, anyone can check the records of the penitentiary.
Wow, just wow !
This was fantastic............
This was amazing, but I might be slightly biased as we share a last name :p
Very powerful speech.
Cool show...and yeah, nice to see this here...saw it first on Upworthy btw...
Who wants to link this to Cruise and Travolta? THEY NEED TO SEE THIS!! or do they...
Wow that gave me chills! SO well done!
he inherited the "golden tongue" and is doing the most admirable things in his lifetime with his talents. jamie dewolf, you just blew my mind with the entire performance down to the band that backed you.
Scientology is the real world Sauron!
WONDERFUL AND BRAVE!
That gave me shivers D: damn
So good.
Non stop chills.
Beautiful, ...
Moderátor: Z tohohle mám vážně radost. Bude to součástí historie. Náš další host je básník, spisovatel, filmař, učitel, fotograf. A mnohem víc. Úžasnej týpek a vy se máte na co těšit. A já si tím říkám o malér. Za malou chvíli zjistíte proč. Pan James DeWolf.
James DeWolf: Každá rodina má svou černou ovci. Naše černá ovce z matčiny strany byla zároveň pastýř, který zotročil své vlastní stádo. Král podvodníků, muž který ze sebe udělal mesiáše, i když se nikdy nenazval bohem. I dnes v noci jsou jeho slova vyrývána do oceli v titanových kapslích v protiatomovém krytu kilometry pod zemí. To aby když celý náš druh vyhyne, jeho slova přetrvala. Nikdy nebyl předmětem hovoru na rodinných setkáních u stolu s dětmi, ale byl to můj pradědeček, L. Ron Hubbard.
Lafayette Ron Hubbard byl rozeným vypravěčem a spisovatelem sci-fi, podvodník se zlatým jazykem, který dokázal napsat knihu v jakémkoliv žánru, zatímco v hotelové hale v přízemí čekal vydavatel na další rukopis. Byl jen dalším jménem na rodokapsech ze stojanů v trafikách, kterému platili deset centů za stránku, a to až do roku 1949, kdy řekl: "Chcete vědět, jak opravdu zbohatnout? Založte náboženství."
O rok později dodržel své slovo. Napsal Dianetiku a přeměnil tak sci-fi ve fakta, díky kterým jste si mohli za poplatek nechat umrtvit svou mysl. Přes noc se z žebráka stal prorokem, dokud svět nezačal požadovat nějaké důkazy. Ale L. Ron věděl, že když nemáte fakta, musíte je nahradit vírou. A tak proměnil svou vědu v náboženství a tak se zrodila Scientologie.
O pár let později přišel na svět jeho syn, který přežil raný pokus o potrat, nedonošený, vážil sotva jeden kilogram. Jeho otec ho opustil v honbě za slávou a bohatstvím. Teď se objevil, aby se účastnil rodinného podniku, To byl můj dědeček, L. Ron Hubbard junior.
Se jménem a ryšavou kšticí po svém otci se junior stal pravou rukou svého otce, jeho věrným učedníkem a následovníkem. Pomohl mu vybudovat církev. Roky mu trvalo, než si uvědomil, že je jen dalším jeho pohůnkem. Se znalostmi hypnózy a elektrošokové terapie, zběhlý v umění vydírání, neštítíc se rvaček a násilí, své zločiny se naučil skrývat za své charisma. A trvalo mu celou dekádu, než skulinami v masce svátosti zahlédl muže, který stál za tím mýtem,. svého otce, jak cpe tisíce dolarů do krabice od bot pod svou postelí. Svého otce, pálícího inkriminující dokumenty za úsvitu. Svého otce, prchajícího před soudními obsílkami z jednoho státu do druhého, zatímco junior sledoval, jak jeho rodina a přátelé bankrotují psychicky i finančně.
Zhnusený tím, co viděl za oponou, v roce 1959 junior odešel. Jeho otec však vždy lépe rozuměl pomstě než vykoupení a svého syna pronásledoval odposlechy, vloupáními a výhružkami smrtí. Můj dědeček přicházel domů ke schránce plné fotek svých dětí, hrajících si na hřišti, úplně samotných, bez dozoru. To jako připomínku, že velké oko nikdy nespí. Zatímco všichni mí strýcové a tety byli poučeni o tom, jak zacházet se zbraní, syn byl donucen žít stejně, jako jeho otec, věčně na útěku...dokud si nezměnil své příjmení z Hubbard na DeWolf, Lež, která ho měla ochránit před tím, aby kdy znovu musel říkat pravdu.
Když váš otec za vašeho života vytvořil náboženství, žádné slunce není dost velké na to, abyste unikli jeho stínu. Jen tenká linie odděluje proroctví od psychózy, a tak odhalený mesiáš utíkal přes hranice zemí před obviněními ze zločinů, psanec unikající vydání na lodi v mezinárodních vodách. Šílenství začínalo mít navrch nad jeho mentálním zdravím. Svou skutečnou minulost si pletl se zápletkami svých románů. Až jednoho dne zmizel dříve, než ho jakákoliv soudní síň či vězeňská cela stihla vrátit do reality.
Junior, utopený v dluzích, se pokoušel donutit svého otce vylézt z úkrytu, aby ho přinutil napsat mu šek. A tak se soudil se samým duchem svatým, aby dokázal, že má lidské tělo. Syn přitáhl svou válku na veřejnost, seškrábal z idolu pozlátko, až zbyla pouhá rez. Junior, diabetik na smrtelné posteli s amputovanou nohou, pohřbený a zničený desetiletím žalob proti muži, který nesl jeho jméno až do dne, kdy tento muž zemřel ve svém úkrytu. Hned ráno došlo ke kremaci, díky která po něm zanechalo akorát dědictví popela.
Církev dala synovi finální nabídku. Zadrž svůj jazyk, spolkni pravdu za poslední šek, nebo ty a tví blízcí budou postavení před život plný hrozeb a výhružek. A tak jim upsal svá tajemství a po dvou infarktech si je vzal s sebou do hrobu. Další oběť, kterou církev přestala předstírat, že se snaží spasit.
Na Den díkuvzdání, v domě zaplaceném vlastnoručně vydělanými penězi, jeho vnukové nikdy nevyslovili jeho jméno. Byl tím jedním bohem, ke kterému se nemodlíme. Jednoho dne mě dědeček vzal ke své knihovně a ukázal mi poličku s díly svého otce. A řekl mi: Máma říká, že chceš být spisovatelem. Nevěř všemu, co čteš, ale věř všemu, co říkáš."
Nikdy jsem se nesetkal s tím mužem, po kterém mám zrzavé vlasy. Jeho maniodepresivita je stále zamotaná v kličkách mé DNA. A když jsem byl poprvé u psychiatra, když se mě zeptal, jestli v mé rodině byl někdo s mentální nemocí (smích publika)....mohl jsem říci jen "Ano, to tedy byl." (další smích). Když jsem mu řekl, že můj pradědeček byl vůdce sekty, která zotročila mysli miliónů lidí, obvinil mě, že trpím velikášstvím. Co na to říct? Mám to prostě v krvi...
Byl jsem, potají, na jedné životopisné výstavě L. Rona Hubbarda v Hollywoodu. Jeho nejnovější oběť mě tam vedla na okružní jízdě životem, který nikdy nevedl, všechny zmínky a stopy mé rodiny z něj byly vymazány. Tento učedník nikdy nepozná dědictví lží, které moje příjmení nese. To příjmení-DeWolf-byla jen zástěrka, která nás měla ukrýt před jeho skutečnými dětmi, před armádou prázdných, kteří mě zdraví na stanicích metra s e-metrem v jedné a testem osobnosti ve druhé ruce. Ptají se mě, jestli jsem někdy slyšel o L. Ronu Hubbardovi. A já mám chuť se jich zeptat: kterého myslíte? Syna, nebo otce? Boha, nebo člověka?
this is incredible.
If the world is just (although I doubt it), then Jamie will go much further than his great-grandfather ever did. He has real talent, and the ability to tell a true story well, instead of a poor story to lead the easily led. I hope to see more of him.
This is amazing.
i duno why but i teared up.
Absolutely powerful.
This is awesome.
excellent!! thank you Jamie!!
This guy could tell ghost stories around the campfire, REAL ones lol
Ron DeWolf said in 1983 that scientology has there own form of S.S. Protection squadron.
You smoked this one DeWolf!
This reminds me that I need to watch the film "Dead Man" again even if it's just for the soundtrack by Neil Young .
Powerful! Let's not forget Charles Manson too was a Scientologists fed on Hubbard's nonsense.
Awesome.
Very powerful.
Props for the Hunter Thompson tattoo.
amazing....
:)
That was great information presented in a very entertaining manner.
That's beautiful.
THE EYE OF THE PYRAMID NEVER BLINKS
Is the full show watchable online? Haven't heard of Snap Judgement before. The production is very well done.