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- In a recent video we took a look at the performance of the new AMD Radeon RX 7900XT and we mentioned in that video we had some issues at lower resolutions due to the CPU we were using. Well now this issue is gone and with a new monster of a CPU in hand we are seeing some awesome improvements.
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The 5800x3d is going to join the 1080ti in gaming lore for the next 4-5 years.
I almost wish I got a 1080ti instead of the 3060ti I have. 3gb more GRAM, and basically same FPS in most games (yes it is slightly lower, but not by much usually). And price would have been half to buy a used 1080ti over the 3060ti new. All the 3060ti has is ray tracing, but turning those on just kills FPS so I don't (as well as most people) use it. I have a 5800x because I built 2 years ago before 5800x3d came out. Not really worth upgrading now.
@@earthling1984 wait untill the rtx 2080 ti will be a bit cheaper on the used market or get urself a 7700 xt
almost 2600k worthy
i just use the same combo cpu+gpu, is very fine
Nope, it was already surpassed in performance and value within the first year. This didn't happen to the 1080ti, and the gpu market took a nosedive around the RTX-launch
It made a big difference, the 5800X3D is one of the best gaming CPU's ever released and will be good for many more years, good video mate!
A much bigger difference than we were expecting. Couldn't believe it tbh.
How does it compare to the Ryzen 9 5900x? I just got one and was wondering if it was good enough
@@just_tom00 Not tested the 5900X myself but it's a fast chip. Think the X3D is faster in gaming but it's trade offs with anything.
But I see in benchmarks taht 7600 is Much better,and a simple 6 core Without the 3d cache... why would I Buy 5800x3d? If i dont have pc on am4
@@yeshuayahushua4338 You wouldn't. Only makes sense if you are already on AM4 and want to upgrade without changing platform.
I'm doing exactly the same thing right now, going from 5600x to 5800X3D but I game at 1440p, the differences won't be as big but I am doing it for better 1% lows and less frame jumping plus it does play very well with Flight Simulator 2020 and also for a bit of future proofing. I was going to upgrade to AM5 but I think I will wait for the 2nd generation now.
Bit of 1440p benchmark feedback comparing RTX 3080 with 5600x and then with 5800X3D. Ultra settings, DLSS if available is quality.
Far Cry 6: 5600x - 81fp. 5800X3D - 98fps
Horizon Zero Dawn: 5600x - 129fps (47fps low). 5800X3D - 134fps (62fps low)
Cyberpunk 2077: 5600x - 64.62fps (39.86fps low). 5800X3D - 66.71fps (51.19 low)
@@PHDarren with the 7900xtx I went from 1440p ultra 64fps to 105 in sons of the forest. It blew my mind coming from the 3900x @ 4.6ghz
The difference was big for me cause I have a 7900xtx, it fixed my cpu bottle neck, went from 150ish max on cod to 270ish
@@PHDarren by any chance have you tried Battlefield 2042 ? I currently have a 5600x and I'm wondering if I should upgrade to the 5800X3D or just go "all out" and move to AM5. But that would mean new mobo, new RAM, and obviously new CPU... GPU is a RX 6800 XT and I game @ 1440p as well. Thanks in advance.
I’m debating on just keeping the 5600x in the system and holding off until as long as I can for a gaming build for my gf. Don’t think she will use it as much tbh so I don’t want to upgrade to 5800x3d. But for gpu, should I opt for 7000 series gpu maybe 7800xt or 7700xt ? Or just go last gen ? Current gpu is 5700xt
I upgraded from the Ryzen 5 3600 to the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and it's made a heck of a difference in everything. I do though only run the RTX 3070 and have been looking to upgrade the GPU. Given the benchmarks you were showing, I seriously look at getting the Radeon 7900XT as it looks like a powerhouse of a GPU. I'm not really interested in ray tracing and with the price that Nvidia GPUs are going for these days, they just don't seem like all that great value any more.
Same situation! Just upgraded the CPU to the aforementioned but have NO IDEA where to go from the 3070. Lets us know what you upgrade to!
@@dustinhilltenor It looks like for the time being I'll be sticking with my 3070 as my 3440x1440p Ultra-Wide monitor died this morning. Couldn't get it to turn on so I'm reduced to using a spare monitor my housemate has loaned me which is a 24" 1080p Dell screen from over a decade ago. Works perfectly fine and seems to have a great screen, but my goodness it seems so small. lol.
It's also only 60HZ where my ultrawide was 100HZ so I guess my 3070 is more than enough to handle it. At least for now.
Haha I just did exactly the same, didn't even upgrade my old B450 motherboard. It's like night and day difference in jumps in games, my RTX 3080 can finally do its job the right way.
@@harveylin3548 I'm still on the B450 platform as well. No point upgrading it if it isn't needed.
My RTX 2070 super greatly benefitted from an upgrade from 3600 to the 5800x3d. Squad low settings, diss balanced now shows twice the fps at 1440p. Baldurs gate 3 also shows twice the fps.
I upgraded from a 3900x to a 5800x3D last week. Improvement is awesome.
my only problem is the temp, using custom watercooling, still got 78 C ~ 80 C on cinebenchR23 , even with -30 all core and offset - 0.06v
I've been wondering if the upgrade was worth it. I haven't got to fully utilize my 3900x for other applications. I've been pretty much strictly gaming. 5800x3d seems like a beast and a worthy upgrade since I'm only gaming now with my pc
I think it's a worthy upgrade even for an older Intel CPU user such as myself. I just bought a used AM4 motherboard and used 5800x3D and am waiting for it in the mail right now. I've been long over due for a CPU upgrade due to CPU bottlenecking in VR games, heavily modded Minecraft, Baldur's Gate 3, and soon to be Starfield.
I recently built a new PC with the 5800x3D at its heart. Got some good offers on end of line stock. Coming from a fx8350 the difference is certainly noticeable, though to be honest the fx chip is still capable enough for most tasks, despite having been in my system since 2013, always clocked at 4.6 ghz, with a Corsair H80i that still keeps it cool.
Damn bro I feel you 😂 I had a fx 6300 and a Rx 560 for the longest time before I started getting into pc’s almost a few years ago, I don’t have the x3d but going from the fx 6300 to a r 4500 was crazy lol, those fx’s held they’re own ! I got a 5800x right now but I’m not sure if I want a 5800x3d or just wait a bit longer to hop on the am5 platform, I do like my higher frames on those big titles but it’s not a need right now as the combo with the 7900xt does me pretty solid so far for what I play so idk. It does look good though !
Great video thanks!
I did recently upgrade from an R5 2600X , and the 5800X3d CPU was on my shopping list.
I ended up going with an R7 5700X and I'm very please with it.
The deciding factor was cost, I with an Amazon discount code I managed to get the 5700X for £124. £150 less than the 5800X3d at the time.
The 5700X is performing admirably at ultra wide 1440p especially on sim games like Train Sim 3 which is surprisingly demanding. Another nice feature of the 5700x is lower power consumption, 65W, and heat. With a single fan ID cooler it manages to stay around 55c under heavy load.
Id love the Fractal AIO to go in my case, (same as yours) but they are quite pricey at the moment.
Yeah... 20% performance for 100% more price doesn't seem worth it.
I haven't pulled the trigger on the 5800x3d for this very reason.
The cost is still 550AUD and my 5600x was 230AUD.
I'm hoping the 5800x3d will drop in price in a few days when the 7800x3d comes out
Imagine using a 7900 xt for 1080p...
I plan on doing that exact thing lol. I'm not going to upgrade for at least 3 years so I need that longevity
@Dr. Powerslide pretty sure he was talking about how it makes no sense when you can do 1440p same hardware with little hit to fps.
That's how you test the CPU.
CPU testing is better in 1080p so you can pull as much frames as possible to strain it, but well this test is kinda not doing that since he was using max or high graphic settings
@@DrPowerslide_ wrong move
something that has to be said is that even in scenarious without a cpu bottleneck there is a noticable increase in 1% lows, which makes any game feel more smooth.
I have made exactly this upgrade and it is amazing. I even got my PBO curve to -30 and it's perfectly stable (afaik most should get at least -20)
I was lucky enough to get -28
The better 1% lows is what interests me the most! I will undervolt my 5800x3d as soon i get it in the mail!
@@vellocx I have the same tune. Most people look at this like any other CPU, it's not, that 3D vcache is a whole other animal. People are like why not go to AM5. The 5800x3d with perform a little under the 7800x3d and it should but 20 is not an upgrade in my opinion. And I only say that in this scenario is because I already get MORE than enough fps, what, go from 150 to 175! Don't need it. People say well I got a 3700x or 3900x, don't get me wrong great CPU's, but the ccx's are split, sharing the cache between the 2. It makes a difference in gaming, not to mention the 3d vcache, the same amount as the 7800x 3d. If you know, you know. I gotta stop getting on here. Most these people don't know, and ya can't tell them nothing lol. Game on. Drew from BeanieBro's.
I used to have a 9700k with my 3080 and in some games the bottleneck was real, one of the games that made that very clear was Cyberpunk, I upgraded to the 5800X3D and the difference is noticeable even in the games I did not notice there was a bottleneck, the little stutters you see from time to time I attributed to the game were actually mostly fixed with the 3D chip.
same here except with the 3600 XD, got a 5800x3d and slapped into my b450m steel legend after flashing and its so god damn smooth lol. Good chip indeed
nice. RTX3080 here too but I am upgrading from an AMD 1700X !
ordered the 5800X3D, just waiting for shipping. Hoping I get the same experience.
I went from a R5 1600 to a 5800x3d just recently... no more bottlenecking my 1080 ti, hoping to upgrade to a 7900 XT at some point (or XTX)
Can't wait to see the improvement over my 3700x, I just got a x3d on sale for under $300
Now I really want to upgrade my CPU. It's been holding back my 3080 in quite a few games😅
I did the exact same upgrade and I can say it is not only the Framerate, everything runs smoother and it is a better experience overall.
I'm impressed with my 5800X3D especially with older single threaded games. The extra cache reduces memory swaps to main system ram. It really smooths out game studdering when clocks speeds alone couldn't achieve. Just upgraded my friend's rig from a 5700x to 5800X3D today. AM4 still rocks!
I have a 3080ti with a 5600x do you think I would get a massive improvement going to the 5800x3d
@@KandJx Interesting question and thanks for asking. Besides getting 2 more cores and 4 threads you receive 100 Megs of cache. The extra cache does make a huge difference in certain scenarios and many CPU dependent games. Older singe thread games will also get a nice boost. I think it's worth it if you got the chance. The chip surprises me with smooth frame rates in many different titles. Good luck and happy gaming! Peace!
I just upgraded to this from the Ryzen 5 3600 and im loving it 🔥
I have an R7-5800X3D coupled with an RX 6800 XT. That CPU is just IN-SANE! Since I didn't have to upgrade my motherboard, I decided to double my RAM instead to 32GB!
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Thanks for the comment but not sure I am the person you are talking about. Companies don’t talk to us at all and doubt we have been mentioned by anyone before, or at least not that we know of 😂
3600 + 2060 to 5800X3D + 6800 XT, now I livin on another level of dimension 😂😂😂😂
Good Work ! ... for 1080p is a good upgrade, but for 2K the diference is smaller and for 3K and 4K there are no ( = ZERO ) diference !
What a difference in performance from 5600X to 5800X3D (besides Horizon Zero Dawn)! I'm glad I chose to go with that chip for my gaming computer! Currently using the RX 6600 XT GPU!
I did the same switch, and I got a 4080 couple of days ago. Smoooooooooth
The performance difference you see here is because the 5600x is weak for the 7900xt but in your situation with a 6600xt you would've been absolutely fine with the 5600x cause it can handle a 6600xt well without bottlenecking and if there even was a performance difference it would be very negligible.
@Mohammed Makes sense. Even without taking the V-Cache into account, the 5800X3D has a couple more cores than the 5600X. I am considering going for a higher-end GPU in the future. With my 750-watt power supply, I should be able to upgrade to something like a 7800 XT in the future.
@@Mr.GameCrazy don't have the urge to upgrade your gpu. you should be fine now with the 6600 xt your 5800x3d will use 100% of it in most scenarios if not all.
@Mohammed Thanks for the advice. I'm happy with the gaming computer I built 3 months ago with those 2 parts. I think whenever I do upgrade the GPU, I'll upgrade the RAM as well. Some games are starting to require 32 GB of RAM these days. Currently have 2 8GB sticks of RAM.
I upgraded to a 5800x3D when the prices fell last month, but then my 5600x, X570 board and RAM went to a data analyst who needed a working build fast for her work.
So actually I should have gone to 7600x with B650 & Expo RAM as it would have been just 50€ more and uplifted the whole platform.
I only had weeks before doing 2 rebuilds as I took my used parts in a rucksack building it into a new case.
I really like x3D tech, but the uplift is insanely big sometimes, but it's a little slower than the 6c at common light threaded tasks.
A cool running CPU the large L3 reduces power consumption to/from memory and the stepping improved.
It's like having a torquey V8 vs a 4cyl turbo.
I'm using the 5800 x3d with a 3090, I run 3x 32" 1440p monitors in a span. Was a nice upgrade from my 10900 I had before it for the types of games I enjoy (space games, flight sims, etc. Things that are generally not as optimized as typical games). Felt like a good place to wait for the ddr 5 stuff to get settled.
Likely upgrade again when the 5000 series nvidia cards release
So you got a 7900XT to play games at 1080p? I,m sorry but those tests were useless since there's no way you'll game at those resolutions. Should have done tests at 2K and 4K
We do have a 7900xt and no we don’t play games at 1080p. This video was testing a CPU. The 7900xt was tested in a previous video at all resolutions.
first i bought the 1080ti in 2018...now a couple of years later the 5800x3d. two legendary components meeting, but the graphics card ultimatley got replaced with a 4070 Ti Super this week and this setup at 1440p now feels very smooth.
Undervolting the 5800X3D helps with thermal throttling and keeps it in the boost frequency.
Interresting. This is the system I built. 5800X3D went on sale a few months ago here for $100 off and I grabbed it up and swapped out with my old 5800X. 2 weeks ago the reference 7900XT came down $100 and I grabbed that. Was curious about the 7900XT CPU scaling. Thanks for this.
Why woud you go froma 5800x to a 5800x3D ? . The worst thing i have ever heared
@@xythiera7255 My reply from yesterday is missing for some reason. Anyway... to sumarize. Go watch AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Review by hardware unboxed and see where the 5800X is compared to a 5800X3D. For me the upgrade was fast and cheap requiring little to no effort. Barely over $100 to sell the old one and buy the new one on sale and plop it in. In my games I immediately got 15% - 25% boost in fps without having to rebuild. At the same time the 7000 series platform (7700X+B650) would have required multiple hours of work and put me out of pocket at least $500 at the time and barely faster than the 5800X3D after I was done. Now, with a 5800X3D, I can wait a year or two and see what the refresh of the 7000 series looks like or perhaps a sale on the 7800X3D package. All for under $150. 5800X is no where near the gaming performance of a 5800X3D in alot of titles.
@@xythiera7255 Tell me that you're mad you bought a 5800x instead of the 5800x3d, without telling me you are mad you bought the 5800x instead of the 5800x3d.
There are people who have upgraded from 5900x to 5800x3d and are happy they did.
@@michaeltrivette1728 I am one of those who changed from 5900x to 5800x3d. I've noticed a smoother experience, FPS doesn't drop as low. Also helps with temps as I moved to an ITX case.
Just got a 5700X3D from Aliexpress for £142 delivered, ridiculous VFM, my 6700XT is just pinned at ~100% utilisation the whole time. Great upgrade from the 3600.
I guess the takeaway is that if youre just below 144 fps with the 5600x, you could potentially take full advantage of a 144hz+ refresh rate by replacing it the 5800x3d? Otherwise, isnt it a bit silly to game at 1080p with a 7900xt- trying to best 287 fps in stead of moving to 1440p?
Exactly....
Please stop using the term "Bottleneck" to describe a limiting factor of a computer system.
A "Bottleneck" is when there is a severe imbalance of components in a system, such as an i3 10100 paired with a 4090, where one component is completely out of step with the rest of the components to the extent that it degrades the system as a whole.
Chris (GoodOldGamer) is not a techie, he's a marketdroid/salescritter.
I have a 7900xt paired with a 5600. Pushes the GPU really well and with being paired to a LG C1 OLED, its been a great match. Only game I have been CPU limited in has been Cyberpunk but still kept the GPU around 85%-100% fed.
Debating in the 5800x3d once it goes on clearance.
I had the same combo and the 5600 was throttling the GPU in the Last of Us at 1440p. The 5800x3d definitely helped in that game.
@@ronalcasid3844 i decided to wait until the next round of CPUs. I’ll do a full AM5 upgrade then as pricing should continue to fall. I’m very happy with my 5600 thus far.
Using a 6700XT and my 5800X3D just yawns at it. The GPU is going max chat and the FPS just blaze. This is undervolted, curve optimiser and power limits reduced, performance has actually increased, the sound and thermals are completely inconsequential. I’m so happy.
I've considered going from a 3950x to a 5800x3d. I only play games on this computer now. Seems like for the price it might actually be worth it to get a little more life out of this.
Its not worth it you shoud just go with a 7600X or 7700X there is no real reason to go from a 3950x to a 5800x3D the differents isnt big enoth to justify spending more on AM4 specialy with prices for ddr5 comeing down by alot .
I contemplated upgrading to the 5800x3d but came to the decision to put that $300+ towards the AM5 platform next year.
It's a weird time making a decision around this at the moment. People are going either way and neither way is wrong :)
please test it in 2k and 4k, 1080 p doesnt really matter ? Who would buy a 7900xt and play on 1080p?
This video is a CPU test.
Upgraded to a 5800X3D (from 5600x) earlier today and the difference in Battlefield 2042 is absolutely massive.
It's crazy how much of a difference you get. Our games since have just been so much smoother and having all those cores has helped speed us these crazy shader building times.
What GPU are you using please?
@@protectorp RX 6800 XT
I've upgraded from a i7-8700K to 5800X3D and it's a massive difference! I stream Call of Duty Warzone on Twitch, from 80 average FPS on i7, i have now around 180 average FPS with the 5800x3d. Same graphics card; 6700XT XFX.
That's a huge uplift 💪
Good to hear, I’m upgrading an 8700k as well.
Very good video...currently 5600x on an RX 5700 gpu and alright but eventually when I go higher like a 6950xt or higher will upgrade to the 5800x3d.
How has your experience been with the RX 7900XT? Stable drivers? Any game issues? I think it is a viable GPU option now with AIB models like the Sapphire Pulse at $799 USD. I do not like the 4070ti's low VRAM and 192 bus. 4080 makes no sense price wise.
Still early days, but no issues with drivers or any games so far.
Just got a 7800xt over a month ago , my normal 5800x is bottlenecking it a bit at 1080p so about to grab a 3d and stoked about it ✅
Why are you showing average FPS in the multigame chart, those don't matter at at all, better to show the 1% lows instead of those useless numbers.
Congrats on the upgrade, it is the best CPU for that platform, that's what I would have done if I had AM4.
Got a 9900k and yeah I know a 12100 is around the same performance but don't care as I don't need more than that.
Do you really buy a 7900xt to run games at 1080p? I thought about upgrading to a 5800x3d but playing Hogwarts Legacy on my 3070 at 1440p with DLSS turned on my 5600x barely reaches more than 30% utilisation whilst the gpu is running flat out. If I upgrade my gpu I'd just increase my graphics to 4k with higher textures etc. so my gpu would still be the bottleneck.
He's playing 1080p to stress the CPU, the GPU plays 4k nice
@@sxsoutcast7651 I realise that, and I know that's how you bench test a cpu, but it's not really a real world scenario. Not unless you play FPS's at 800fps that is!
@@mikep9418 it's the only reason he did 1080p. He plays games at 4k.
We did the 1080p, 1440p and 4K tests in our last video about the 7900XT. t was in that video we identified the bottle neck in our CPU so this was to purely see the difference with the new one. 1080p to push everything we could to the CPU is all.
@@TechLabUK Sorry, I've been abroad on holidays so I missed that video but I'm caught up now. It more or less confirms what I said earlier that even a 5600x is plenty fast enough for a 7900xt if you're mainly playing in 4k. Thanks for the content and keep up the good work.
1% min low FPS is insane on 5800X3D. It at sometimes almost double the 5600X. I have a much older 3700X and it can't keep up with my 7900XTX, my GPU usuall sits at 60%-80% usage. Ima have to wait a few more months before upgrading to 7800X3D.
5800x3D would need to no more than $170 to be worthwhile for some people afraid of upgrading their board. Thanks to all those that insist on upgrading their am4 systems I have had no issues getting all my rigs into AM5. Motherboards are the hardest part to sell. 5000 series cpus and ram sell quick.
I recently paired my 5800x3d with a RX 7800 XT and I'm very surprised it runs better and cooler than my RX 6900 XT. Works great with my 165 hz Corsair 4K monitor. I think a more apples to apples comparison would've been 16 thread to 16 thread would've been more appropriate.
I currently have a 3900XT with a 2080ti. I don't really want to upgrade my entire board frome 4 to AM5. Does this make sense to upgrade my 3900xt to 5800x3d?
First I had the 5600X, then the 5800X and now my system has the 5800X3D & RTX 4090 and there's absolutely nothing!
a dream finally came true to play any game at 4k/120 FPS!
What a system! 💪
Wow you upgrade a lot lol
@@malazan6004 😂👌
And friends don't forget! If you own a RTX 4090 you have also to be a beast real life 💪 😂
So you noticed a difference between the 5800x and 5800x3d? I primarily play one game "BlackDesert" and it's very cpu bound, you can do some tricks to have the gpu carry the load but I am hesitant on swapping over.
I've been running a rx5800x3d now for almost 1 year. I guess I'm gonna have to upgrade my GPU to a 7900XT now. The FPS I got with a 1080ti was great and also with an ARC A770 16gb so maybe I have to splurge a little more.
The A770 is a cool card. Ours runs with a 10400F still but you made us wonder how well it would perform with the 57800X3d lol
@@TechLabUK I have the latest drivers installed and this is a very good card and I think it would probably work better with an Intel CPU. I don't know how many people play Croateams games but I have been averaging between 150 to almost 400 FPS depending on various settings. I have been using there benchmarks and It's pretty good since it was there first GPU in many years. I don't see why they don't sell to well unless they have Nvidia on the brain. This card beats the 3060 12gb card and I think the ti version too. Maybe when they get there drivers all sorted out we get some awsome surprises from this card. There is going to be an Intel build in the near future for me and that is where this card will end up. I have a 10700k lying around so that will be my test subject. It would be real interesting to see what EVGA could do with one of these GPU's I figure that would put Intel in a different position than where they are now! I would give some to KingPin and let him work with them, Might be real surprised. I do think this GPU works real well with the 5800x3d and with the right setup it may be a whole lot better than it is now.
@@TechLabUK I'll tell you what, If you have an ARC like mine maybe you should install it and see what you make of it. Of all the cards I've run with this CPU I can say no complaints at all. If that board is an X570 and your memory is at least 32gb of 3600 it would make an excellent test bed for it. Your setup is not a Cheap set and some boards do run better than MSI and I got mine off Ebay for 100. bucks back in may of last year. After a Bios update this has been running very well for me. My storage is 2 crucial P5's and come very highly recommended with 2 seagate 2 tb hdd's. I might trade those out for ssd's a little later.
@@billchildress9756 it doesnt touch the 3060 Ti. it trade blows with the 3060 but still loses in many games, just check the newest one, the last of us, a770 slower than 3060 12gb.
i dont think ppl buy 7900xt to play in 1080p, you should test this setup in 1440p and 4k resolutions.
The 7900xt was tested in a previous video at higher resolutions. This video was testing the CPU.
The 5600x is fine to run the 7900xt for 4k gaming. Who is playing at 1080p with a 7900xt? In the real world you are most likely playing at 4k, there is no reason really to have a 7900xt for 1080p gaming. Its is a waste of the 7900xt to play at 1080p. a 10minute ad with additional ads! #greatjob
Testing was run at 1080p to put more load onto the CPU as this is a CPU test. It's a 4k setup really.
I ordered yesterday the Ryzen 7 5800X3D and the Radeon RX 7900 XT Speedster MERC 310 can't wait to upgrade my gaming rig NVIDIA is OVERPRICED!!!!!!!!
Yeah 1080p seems like an odd benchmark to use.
I have a 6950xt with the 5800x3d and I game 4k and stream 2k.
Over 100FPS average.
I already own a 1080ti and used it with my 5600x for a while. Now I've moved back up to the 6700xt with a 5800x. The 5800x/3d gets way better ram speeds (3800mhz vs 3400mhz) than the 5600x. At least in my experience. Maybe I hit the silicon lottery tho.
I’m getting a 4070 ti with a 5800 bought the 5800 x before I bought anything else cause of a huge sale and wish I didn’t because of more research.😂
I do wish you would have done a 1440p of this too. Because even at 1440p on some games I’m seeing people say that even the 5800x3d is bottlenecking. Great video tho amd thanks. I have 7900xt and using 5600. Just not sure if I want to upgrade to AM5 soon or just get 5800x3d
I have 5600x /7900xt with 3440x1440 and in games like rdr2 hits 120fps on ultra...cpu goes max 75% in city.. lots of npc... and same in cp2077 70fps... and now Starfield as well city bottlenecing from cpu...so best and cheap upgrade will be 5800x3d...and will be ok for next 2-3 yrs 4 sure. Then i ll go for AM5 and prices ll be normal 😅
Almost a year later & it looks like even the lowest tier AM5 7000 series desktop CPU (Ryzen 5 7600) beats the 5800X3D by about 10%. If you want to rock an AM4 motherboard build though, it's probably your best bet.
I had a 3900x and 2080 super and just recently sold my 3900x and bought the 5800x3d. I still have the 2080 super, but want the 7900xtx or 7900xt. I have 2 32" 1440p monitors and want to add a 3rd or the new 55" ultrawide samsung g9.
Hell, I even upgraded from a 5800x to a 5800x3d. It makes an even bigger difference at low settings (which I tend to play at for higher FPS at 1440p).
i just got my hands on Ryzen 7 5800X3D from Ryzen 5 1600 even went for undervolting to unlock some extra potential from the 5800X3D u should do same there are hidden gains in that too.
if you play an MMO, the 3d chips are a must. the 1% lows see a MASSIVE increase. my 5800x3d and 7900xtx get ~110-120fps on average out in the world in new world on 4k max settings
I just received My 5800x3d an hour ago! I will replace my 2 month old 5600x this weekend. I also have a 6950xt arriving monday to replace my 6700xt I am so excited!
Awesome upgrades! Talking about a 4k machine there. Happy gaming to come.
Thank you for that educational and productive video.i never even thought of anything over 5800x in am4 to avoid bottleneck
5700x quite enough. 3600 under 16-18-18 on ram and undervolt welcomed. 5800x3x is a BIG overpriced peace of silicon.
Just trying to balance everything mostly the improvements from
The R5 5600X to a R7 5800x3d is around 30% not bad.
I game on a 2560x1440p 170hz If I had this much cpu power ether play 1440p or 4k lol that's my personal perspective on it if you had that much to spend on a cpu upgrade might as well upgrade to a much higher resolution than 1920x1080p
It's a 4k system but benches are 1080p to push the load onto the CPU.
I had a 3070 + 5600 and decided to change the CPU first, my ACC VR performance wasn´t going anywhere, now the GPU became the problem, so I went for a 4070, let´s see what is gonna happen.
It's definitely something I'd like to get. As I have an ancient 2600X that can't even keep up with a 2060...
And for 1440p?
I think that who bought a 7900XT will gamming at QHD, don`t you think?
Very much so which is why we covered 1440p and 4K in our 7900xt review. This video is testing the 5800X3D.
I have this exact set up. Just in a razar mini ITX. Bump up the resolution my friend. I play on my Neo G9 and am just amazed every time I a launch a game
We were just testing in 1080p to put the load onto the CPU for CPU testing. We tested the GPU performance in a previous video. Awesome that you got it running in a Mini ITX.
I really want to upgrade my 5600x to the 5800X3D.
I play in 4k and based off benchmarks I’ve seen the 3dv cache isn’t worth it unless your gaming at 1440p or less. There’s literally no benefit at 4k.
We did a video just before this one using the 5600X and the 7900XT and the only issues we had were at the lower resolutions. There is a small increase with the 5800X3D at 1440 / 4K but the 5600X allows the GPU to run.
Exactly.
Even at 1440p it's not worth it for many especially if you have a 120hz or 144hz screen you're likely over or close to your Max fps and the extra from the 3d are a waste. The 3d is a beast for 1080p though and exports games though but I don't play them or 1080p
Excellent video, just what I'm getting ready to do. Very helpful!
An amazing difference. Couldn't believe it to begin with and had to re-run all the benchmarks to confirm it.
Should have tested racing simulators like Assetto Corsa Competizione or iRacing. The fps can *double* in sims.
Im so confused , why wouldnt people just buy a better screen than playing at 1080p?
Surley 4k makes zero difference.
Higher resolutions won't make much difference which is why we game test CPUs at lower resolutions to show the performance difference. This is changing though as more and more games / enthusiast level GPUs are seeing bigger swings at those higher resolutions so it won't be long before we can really start showing them up there.
I'd like to see CPU tests at 4k ultra on an RTX 4090, That way people will have an idea of the 4k bottle Neck on high end GPU's a lot of people buy the best CPUs to pair with an amazing GPU waste of money. I've been their. 🙈
I'm on AM4 platform with a R9 3900X, looking to upgrade to a 5800X3D but still not sure at 4k. I'm guessing 15fps difference
RTX 4090
I play in 1440p ultrawide with a 6700xt. Most of my games are single player non-competitive graphics heavy and the sweet spot is around 90-100 FPS, so i'm 90% of my time GPU bottlenecked or don't care going over 100FPS for minimum improvement in gameplay. Going from a 5600X to a 5800x3d was gaining me ~5 FPS max. Not worth it in my case since both CPUs are still separated by at least $120,00. It's more future proof, sure, and i'm happy with it, but the upgrade is not all that massive for now, if you play games at my resolution and type.
So , for 5700xt it's not worth it. I might go 5700x route cause is much cheaper. Your thougts?
When you test the cpu ... you have to turn all the graphics setting lowest as possible .
Man, please take this as constructive criticism, audio quality is more important than video quality. Your video looks great but the audio is very lacklustre, other than that great video!
Amd hit it out of the park with this CPU, so much so its cannibalized their AM5 CPU sales lol
My new 5800X3D arrives tomorrow to replace my 5800X, I should see a big difference running my Sapphire Pulse 7900XTX
What were the result ..? Thank you for your reply❤
I recently upgraded from a 3800x to the 5800x3D and the difference in the one application i care about, MSFS, has been impressive. I was considering upgrading my 2070 Super as well, but performance in the sim at 1440 and high settings works good enough for me at this point in time.
2070 is crap. My 4090 eats your card for breakfast
@@Bk_owns ..and ??? you have a really problem,don't you ?
@@Bk_owns Umm... Of course a $1,600 card is faster than a $500 card... But here I am with a 3060ti, 5800x, 32gb ram and I play every single game I want on max / epic settings on my 27" 1080x60 monitor. Locked at 60fps, never go below. You don't always need the newest and best. It's just a waste of money most of the time.
Might be cause I’m 1440p but I only saw maybe a 5% increase from my 5600x to my 5800x3D. Using a 6900XT.
i just upgraded from an i7 4790k to a Ryzen 7 5800X3D and WHAT THA HECK DID I JUST BUY........??????????????????????????????????????????????
A really fast cpu 💪
i was on a old system mounting a core i7 4970s and a gtx 1060 6gb, so after 10 yesr decided to upgrade and did with the 5800x3d coupled with a rx 6950xt and 32 gb ram ,(new screens too) it churns every thing you pun on with no problem
I managed to find a deal on a 5900x running that now but wonder how would the 5800x3d compare?
Not sure but would be an awesome battle to have.
i tested it. first you got to undervolt the 5800x 3d, bios or software like pbo2tuner. then you gotta do the same with the 7900xt. 300W+ is nonsense .......but it is like it is.
For 1080p, with Vsync, you could have great power consumption, like minus 200/150w or less.
With ray tracing it's another thing. you gotta, without help of fsr 1/2, raw 3080 power.
and without RT, you got the raw power of a 4080.....which is not that useful, unless you use unreal engine 5.......ray tracing with lumen, not rt cores.
So Nvidia's gpu are better.....but they are taking us for fools.
7900 xt is not a bad choice, counting on drivers improvements, implementation of FSR3, and games engines that won't run mostly on RT cores.
it's better priced than nvidias offer. and futureproof with 20 Gb of RAM. especially when recents games often need 10 Gb+ of gpu RAM.
Pairing it with a 5800x 3d, or 5900x,5800x,5700x, 5600x is a smart choice.
tbe 7800x3d should get the benefict of higher frequencies, or higher memory bandwidth with ddr5. Get "expo" rated memory for amd.
But it will be pricy.
and when the need to change the 7900xt will occur......you could upgrade. but it should last a while.
Chosing the resolutions is alsi a question of power consumption.
@1080p, you can get 120+ fps/to 240 maybe, with RayTracing sometimes, for less than 200W
@1440p, it's higher, 250W maybe
4k, you're getting 300w+ all the time, for mostly 60 fps....not talking about RT
unless you activate FSR 1-2-3
So , not everyone may like the 7900xt but its worth the bet.
5800x3D also. undervolted, i get around 4400 mhz all core for les than 50W.
the gain in fps is unconsistent for average fps. but it exists for the 1% lows.
you got the grunt to compensate the ddr4/ddr5 difference, with the big L3 cache.
so worth the bet........
less frequency, for 8 cores.....that should last a few years.
The difference witj 7800x 3d should be from 15 to let's say 40 fps, between those 2 cpu's, paired with 7900 xt. So. either you upgrade, either you buy new.....
Those products are good either way
ho, i forgot. the 20 gb RAM quantity.......is a masterchoice 🙂
From my testing, I have found the following. This cpu is pointless for now. It does great at 1080p, with a gpu that lets it stretch its legs. But if I have to get a 1440p/4k gpu, my performance in 1080p is already going to be amazing regardless. As you can see in the video, most games gained anywhere from 20-50fps. When you already have well over 120fps, are you really going to notice 40 additional fps? No.. and why would I want a 4k gpu for 1080p gaming?
I have two of the same pc, one with a 5800x3d and one with a 5600x. With my gpu at 1080p, the performance is identical. If I play in 4k, it becomes gpu bound so the 5600x becomes plenty. It just kinda feels like a waste of money to me. For now.. In 5-6 years if you’re still hanging on to a 6900xt/3090, this cpu will make sense.
Yeah, I can't notice a difference between the 5600X and 5800X3D at 4K with a 4090FE.
Dead island 1 was great imo but 2 should be great also.
Looking forward to it so much and now with this system it should have no issues with full fidelity.
@@TechLabUK Anxious to see if they can match the gameplay.
@@sxsoutcast7651 Been watching the previews and it looks very good so fingers crossed it comes out like the trailers lol
Why would you max out AM4 rig then only play at 1080p???.....😒
You wouldn't but you bench CPUs at lower resolutions otherwise the GPU is doing all the work.
I use the Der8auer offset mounting kit on my 5800x3d I noticed a small but consistant difference by doing so
Where can we buy that bracket?
im doing the same got a rx 7900xt and will upgrade the cpu to 5800x3d
What a beastie worthwhile for a high end gpu like this.
I just bought the 5800X3D to replace a 5600x. Aiming 2560x1440p gaming with my Palit 4080 OC. I have some concerns about the temps.... we will see
Undervolt, almost always a must. The chip is harder to cool because of the extra height on the 3d vcache. It's relatively easy and doesn't require going into your bios.
jumping from a 5 5500 on a b450 with a 5700xt from xfx thicc III ultra to this
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the support
I still run it. Such a great CPU, like dude said down below, one of the best gaming CPUs ever released. Even if he went AM5 with a 7800x3d he would get 20-30 fps more, BUT for what he would have to do, new mobo, ddr5 ram, and the CPU would have been way more expensive for 20-30 fps that he doesn't need to switch. When the 5800x3d can no longer handle modern titles, that's when I'll upgrade, which I can safely assume will not be for at least a few more years, maybe longer. I'm not bashing the new tech, but I game AND run 3D renders with this CPU and I just don't see the need for anything else. Especially, you have to watch out on this new tech, look at Intel with the 13th and 14th gen cpu's, burning up, crashing, mass instability. I know I can TRUST this CPU to handle what I throw at it. The new tech, cant trust it, till it proves itself. Great stuff man. Drew from BeanieBro's.
Can't let mine go tbh, it's now in the benching rig and still running strong.
You guys could have easily sold your 5800x3D , board and hardware and already been on AM5 7600x for about the same price.
I had a 5600x then 5900x for a long time. Then got my hands on a used $263 5800x3D. It certainly was better for my 1% lows. I realized I could sell a low end x570 board and 5800x3D for $380, the 32gb of ram for $50 and went to a x670 Aorus Elite, 7600x and Gskill Trident CL30 6000MT for about $40 more out of pocket. The extra 1000mhz of clock speed makes up for the cache in most cases. 5450mhz vs 4450mhz.
I’ve since found new 7800x3D for $220,260 and 340. Prime day this last week I ordered three B650 Aorus Elite boards for $80 each. I will be selling off very good MSI x570s tomahawks and edge WiFi, 5600x,5700x,5800x , basic 3200mhz / 3600mhz ram kits and will be trying to run 7600x or better as the used market is about to have them likely around $120. Out of pocket will be easily around $50 each to upgrade from good am4 builds to better am5 upgrades. Sell while people still want to buy AM4.
@@45eno My 5800X3D was in my home system and then I moved to Intel and reused the 5800X3D at the studio. I also do have AM5 boards and CPUs at the studio so I don't really need to sell the 5800X3D tbh
@@45eno why would I get the 7600x. Check the numbers, wouldn't even be an upgrade. Now the 7800x3d, but honestly 20 % is not big enough upgrade especially when I can run everything ultra with no problem. I don't need extra fps. I don't chase fps not that I have a problem in that area, I go for quality, and the 5800x3d doesn't even stretch it's legs. To be honest I believe AMD has 1 more ace up the sleeve, I think there going to create 1 more x3d for AM4. I'll probably wait until the next socket comes out. 2027 is right around the corner. I run a blocked 6950xt with the 5800x3d and IF I have to upgrade before then I have the 4090 to lean on but I don't believe it'll be necessary. I don't need the newest of the new. Again the quality, and I get that with no sweat. I game and a little bit of 3D rendering and have no need for 16 cores and infinite amount of threads. The people that know, know and the people that don't, THINK they need the newest products. The 3D V Cache tech in my opinion is the best tech created for gaming since AMD created the smart access tech. I have never had a CPU like this where full heavy gaming and it's like the CPU doesn't even need to be used. It's on a different level than normal CPU's. Keep gaming. Drew from BeanieBro's.
@@BeanieBrosPC The 7600x is on avg 3% faster than the 5800x3D. 3D cache is great I own three 7800x3D. When you can sell a 5800x3D and buy newer and better for basically the same price is why I recommend it.
Will it make a difference with 4k gaming since the GPU usually carries at higher resolution?
Doesn't make much difference in higher resolutions tbh.
Hello, I have a 5600X + 1070. I want to upgrade to the 7900XT. Will I find a bottleneck with the 5600X? At a display resolution of 1440
I would suspect you will be fine at the higher resolutions tbh
This information is irrelevant for me. I sonr game at 1080. 1440p has been put so long why people keep doing these test i have no idea..
Yep!
I'm partnering it with a 4090 for a VR sim rig.
Thanks for the vid I guess it can sufficiently back up an xtx card as well :)
going from r5 3600 to this beast. i have a 3060 ti.