The Soviets were ahead in armored fighting vehicles until the late 80's. The T-64 was more expensive than anything the west was producing at the time. Their planes and air defense systems were also all very expensive. The Mi-8 and Mi-24 were specifically designed with the horrific losses of the US Airborne operations in Vietnam in mind (namely due to the single-engine Huey and the AH-1 Cobra being "cheap" and vulnerable to small arms fire). The core Soviet doctrine after the WW2 was Deep Operation. The idea their doctrines were designed around cheap meat wave attacks is a product of propaganda.
@@tedarcher9120 kinda weird to have nore vehicles than soldiers if you need atleast 1 guy to operate a vehicle? And i don't think the Soviets used drones in the 70s
@@stardekk1461 The soviets actually did have drones in the 70s, but I doubt they had more vehicles than personell. More vehicles than qualified personell probably
Well, Iraq had the same Soviet trash and look how well it performed. Besides, NATO had overwhelming air superiority, and their soldiers were even had training, something the Soviets were severely lacking in. And no, it's not a myth, both the Soviet Union and then after Russia's soldier had truly pitiful training in all branches of the military, so even if their stuff was decent, they would barely be able to operate it. Oh, and don't get me started on logistics, Soviets had a crushing lack of supply vehicles. The USSR had the exact same problems Russia still has today.
People tend to sleep on TKS because it is sold as Heimatschützen KDA light division. But it has some of the strongest foward deploy openers in the game, similar to 4. MSD, Green Berets, Satchel Recon and mobile AA. Afterwards you can reinforce quickly with Aeromobiles and somewhat quickly with Jäger or Pioniere (Armbrust). All to prepare to surgically remove the enemy AA with your airspam while covering with some of the strongest AA mix in NATO.
This is Mr. Penguin. He is depressed. “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “Are you still paying off that $300,000 Jet Ski loan you borrowed?” “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “Ah yes. As you said.” “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “You want to keel yourself, yes. Do you want to talk about something else now?” “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” Conceptualisation: He seems to be in some sort of loop. “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” Electrochemistry: Well, that’s not good. Looks fine over here. You sure it’s not some sort of glandular problem? “What is happening?” Reaction speed: No, it’s not that. It’s… I have no idea. This is bad. “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” Volition: Executive function is completely shot. I keep pushing buttons and nothing is happening. Rhetoric: Of all the things to be stuck looping this has got to be one of the most witless. “Sweetheart, please stop repeating that now.” Composure: This is going to be hard to recover from. “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “Please.” Logic: How do we get out of here? Suggestion: What makes you think we will? “Yes, yes, Rex Fontaine is helping you find your gun, Mr. Penguin.” “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” Half Light: Fear seeps into you as you say it… Shivers: Your skin crawls… “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “Do you want me to take you to a hospital, Mr. Penguin?” Authority: Things were going so well before. There’s no other option. The process must be interrupted. Inland Empire: You think we should… turn him off and back on again? “Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.” “Mr. Penguin...” Interfacing: Yeah, we need to pull the plug, there’s nothing else to do. Empathy: Are you not afraid it’ll kill him? Endurance: Physically he should be fine. Or at least no worse than usual… Encyclopedia: What if he forgets everything again? Interfacing: Okay, I’m gonna do it. Hold on…
There's a mod on the steam workshop for that, it's one of the most subscribed. They are doing it by division this time. Better for balance and better for Eugene (more money 🤑)
They can't give units too much realistic identity. Otherwise the USSR would have almost no logistics vehicles, all units would be unranked and NATO would deploy GPS artillery, which wouldn't end well for the Soviets. I guess it would be quite the experience though, to just throw all your untrained soldiers at a wall. There has been countless reports by Russian generals after the fall of the USSR, their army never a pear to the US, let alone NATO since the 60s. We have seen what happens when Abrams, Challenger 2s and Leopard 2s face T-72s, and it's not pretty. It would be way too frustrating in the game to have even your best tanks have their turrets go to space each time a TOW or a 120mm hits you in the face.
I think you hit it on the head. "No divisional identity"... It all just feels generic. Unlike the WG series; where each division had its own specific identity and good unit diversity and then you can also make general decks... Really WARNO has very limited divisions with "general deck" feel but bare-bones unit diversity. Its an aesthetic I've come to dislike.
Does anyone recall that WG decks used to have a "special forces" section as part of each division? They weren't just added to the infantry or recon sections.
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The Soviets were ahead in armored fighting vehicles until the late 80's. The T-64 was more expensive than anything the west was producing at the time. Their planes and air defense systems were also all very expensive. The Mi-8 and Mi-24 were specifically designed with the horrific losses of the US Airborne operations in Vietnam in mind (namely due to the single-engine Huey and the AH-1 Cobra being "cheap" and vulnerable to small arms fire). The core Soviet doctrine after the WW2 was Deep Operation. The idea their doctrines were designed around cheap meat wave attacks is a product of propaganda.
It was more of a Steel Axe than a meat wave. They had more vehicles than soldiers, as they were supposed to fight in nuclear blast zones.
Boooooorrrriiiinnnnggggggg. Give me meat wave any day
@@tedarcher9120 kinda weird to have nore vehicles than soldiers if you need atleast 1 guy to operate a vehicle? And i don't think the Soviets used drones in the 70s
@@stardekk1461 The soviets actually did have drones in the 70s, but I doubt they had more vehicles than personell. More vehicles than qualified personell probably
Well, Iraq had the same Soviet trash and look how well it performed. Besides, NATO had overwhelming air superiority, and their soldiers were even had training, something the Soviets were severely lacking in. And no, it's not a myth, both the Soviet Union and then after Russia's soldier had truly pitiful training in all branches of the military, so even if their stuff was decent, they would barely be able to operate it. Oh, and don't get me started on logistics, Soviets had a crushing lack of supply vehicles. The USSR had the exact same problems Russia still has today.
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People tend to sleep on TKS because it is sold as Heimatschützen KDA light division. But it has some of the strongest foward deploy openers in the game, similar to 4. MSD, Green Berets, Satchel Recon and mobile AA. Afterwards you can reinforce quickly with Aeromobiles and somewhat quickly with Jäger or Pioniere (Armbrust). All to prepare to surgically remove the enemy AA with your airspam while covering with some of the strongest AA mix in NATO.
Yeah 100%
This is Mr. Penguin. He is depressed.
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“Are you still paying off that $300,000 Jet Ski loan you borrowed?”
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“Ah yes. As you said.”
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“You want to keel yourself, yes. Do you want to talk about something else now?”
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
Conceptualisation: He seems to be in some sort of loop.
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
Electrochemistry: Well, that’s not good. Looks fine over here. You sure it’s not some sort of glandular problem?
“What is happening?”
Reaction speed: No, it’s not that. It’s… I have no idea. This is bad.
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
Volition: Executive function is completely shot. I keep pushing buttons and nothing is happening.
Rhetoric: Of all the things to be stuck looping this has got to be one of the most witless.
“Sweetheart, please stop repeating that now.”
Composure: This is going to be hard to recover from.
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“Please.”
Logic: How do we get out of here?
Suggestion: What makes you think we will?
“Yes, yes, Rex Fontaine is helping you find your gun, Mr. Penguin.”
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
Half Light: Fear seeps into you as you say it…
Shivers: Your skin crawls…
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“Do you want me to take you to a hospital, Mr. Penguin?”
Authority: Things were going so well before. There’s no other option. The process must be interrupted.
Inland Empire: You think we should… turn him off and back on again?
“Rex Fontaine is helping me find my gun.”
“Mr. Penguin...”
Interfacing: Yeah, we need to pull the plug, there’s nothing else to do.
Empathy: Are you not afraid it’ll kill him?
Endurance: Physically he should be fine. Or at least no worse than usual…
Encyclopedia: What if he forgets everything again?
Interfacing: Okay, I’m gonna do it. Hold on…
lol
NOOT NOOT
Noot Noot
Good game!
So how would you have set up this game? Would you have given the heavy tank/spam division to PACT/NATO only?
PACT would be full spammy rubbish and NATO would be quality over quantity
TKS? YOU MEAN TK-BEST.
win or lose with TKbest I'm always smiling.
Yeah it's a really fun div lol
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I bought the early access when i got the game how come i can’t build multi country decks?
There's a mod on the steam workshop for that, it's one of the most subscribed. They are doing it by division this time. Better for balance and better for Eugene (more money 🤑)
They can't give units too much realistic identity. Otherwise the USSR would have almost no logistics vehicles, all units would be unranked and NATO would deploy GPS artillery, which wouldn't end well for the Soviets. I guess it would be quite the experience though, to just throw all your untrained soldiers at a wall. There has been countless reports by Russian generals after the fall of the USSR, their army never a pear to the US, let alone NATO since the 60s. We have seen what happens when Abrams, Challenger 2s and Leopard 2s face T-72s, and it's not pretty. It would be way too frustrating in the game to have even your best tanks have their turrets go to space each time a TOW or a 120mm hits you in the face.
I get your point tbh
I think you hit it on the head. "No divisional identity"... It all just feels generic. Unlike the WG series; where each division had its own specific identity and good unit diversity and then you can also make general decks... Really WARNO has very limited divisions with "general deck" feel but bare-bones unit diversity. Its an aesthetic I've come to dislike.
Does anyone recall that WG decks used to have a "special forces" section as part of each division? They weren't just added to the infantry or recon sections.
Yeah it's basically 1 div 1 playstyle