I Fixed Jupiter Ascending (You're Welcome?)
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Yup, I tried to fix (by various means) the many, many action scenes in Jupiter Ascending. You're welcome? We analyse the major fights, do a breakdown of what is and isn't working, and then cut them out, cut them down, or fix them up in some other way.
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"Killed by falling plot" is probably my favorite line. I often speak of plot as an object or force when discussing movies with friends. So I liked hearing someone else do it too.
Rock falls, everyone dies is a classic D&D reference :)
I always say "because plot" when someone/friends complain over a poorly developed narrative in a movie.
Why does the male lead fail there? Because plot.
Why can't this one defeat the baddie even though they'll beat them later without a training montage? Because plot.
Why do female and male lead have to suck face with an explosion in the background? Because plot.
I also loved that turn of phrase, but simultaneously imagined a large plot of land (as in agricultural land) landing on him 😅
Sort of like what the _The Critical Drinker_ says, should have worn _"plot armor"._
😊😊😊
@@Etern1tyOne >>> They _unearthed_ it...😉
"... It is Sean Bean, we could just kill him off" ... Very nice
It's a ringer.... 😂
I laughed out loud at work when I heard that.
By keeping him alive she actually followed what me and my friends have noticed is the unofficial rule of Sean Bean, his chance of surviving a movie is directly in proportion to the length of his hair. If he is sporting short hair he tends to live, if he has long hair death is just waiting for its moment to grab him.
The *exact* moment I went to check the comments to see how others reacted. I feel so connected with part of humanity right now.
Thats why Richard Sharpe never died
"Let" "Sean Bean" "Survive"
I know what each of those words mean, but all together, in that order, it's just gibberish.
It's just not Sean Bean if his characters don't die in his movies. It's like horror movies without atmosphere and proper tension. it just doesn't work.
Well he didn't die in "national treasure"...
@@Quandry1 he didn't die in not one, but two horror movies and a crime film despite being poisoned. Sooo ... what do we make out of that?
I can't believe I forgot Sean Bean's character was part Bee
Let’s bee real, there was a lot going on. 🐝
I can't beelieve that I forgot Sean Been was in this movie, period.
@@JillBearup Oh beehive with all the puns.
@@maxximumb honey, I need help with the sting of all these puns.
Did it ever come back up in the movie?
I think my favorite part of this whole video is, "-and the... char... ac...ters?"
As you kept fixing (as much as anyone can) what is wrong with Jupiter Ascending, I really appreciated how you seemed to become more and more frazzled, culminating in tea. I thought it was a nice touch and it made me smile.
I did not intend for my hair to become increasingly Hermione as we went on, but I think it fit quite well 🤣
@@JillBearup >>> Must have been THE ONE DAY in the UK where the _humidity_ actually became significant...😉
{BTW, I was born and raised in Florida, where LACK OF HUMIDITY is sometimes a portent of an impending apocalypse...😊}
Not really a good movie but the costume design is *chef's kiss*
As is the worldbuilding.
I watch this movie for the space ships
I want: "I don't need to be cognisant of your mundane frame of reference" on a T-shirt or Mug
But rotated 120 degrees
Debatible
Yes please!
I want one too
@@samhansen9771 I'd buy it.
I recently had a discussion about B-movies and their potential to be good, and someone mentioned this movie, but I think this movie suffers from the fatal flaw of TRYING to be an A-movie but ending up as a B-movie, rather than just embracing the things that make B-movies good and therefore being enjoyable on a B-movie level.
Great video, though. I'd be interested to see someone whose professional job is video editing try to do a mockup of the changes you suggested, with either storyboards like you did or amateur actors filling in the scenes you completely rewrite.
A valid point. Haven't seen the film itself in full, but from what I can understand from this vid and various reviews I feel a bit more camp and a willingness to make fun at its own expense would have made it far more entertaining.
@@l0stndamned tbh it's really enjoyable if one doesn't take it too seriously
I feel like Eddie Redmayne knew he was in a B Movie and just went all-in
The funny part is that its by the same directors as the Matrix (which Jill used as an example of better fight scenes) and had a $200 million dollar budget. I really don't know what went wrong
The failure of this film is not trying too hard. It is not trying hard enough. It reaches for things then gives up having failed. Like a soft spoken bad guy, who you cannot hear. Or an action space princess who does not actually take any actions and might as well be an inanimate macguffin.
Good b movies also try and fail. They fail amusingly because we can see what they did wrong. Like a toy prop gun that floats, or a leading man who scowls like a toddler.
The problem here, like the star wars add ons, is that the failures aren't instantly obvious. They come through slowly, like a bad smell on your linguine.
“See also the Last Airbender”. Yeah, that’s probably the only way that the Last Airbender made something DARKER.
How can we see a movie that doesn't exist?
@@adisonlandon9883 Ah I see you have been to Lake Lao Gai!
@@blah7983 There is no M Night Shamalyan movie in Ba Sing Se
So you are saying it would be GOOD for *THE LAST AIRBENDER* to go to _The Dark Side?_ 😉
Your line "and the characters?" Reminds me of when I worked as a projectionist. As a projectionist, you cannot leave, no matter how bad, unless the entire audience walks out.
And hoo boy, Wild At Heart by David Lynch was a stinker.
It had: the roof of a dance hall, a match being lit in slow motion, a hand clutching a sheet, the wizard of Oz, and Elvis impersonation.
So overloaded with symbolism, you get the feeling shooting ended before anyone had the courage to ask "and the plot...?"
you must had work the booth before my time. I was up to 9 screeens and we needed to leave to start the other projectors. So must had been around when cig marks were needed to start a new projector on time as film were not put together into one reel when i was around. I only needed to check the film every so often to be sure the sound was working right. which was the start of the film after trailers and every so often to be sure stuff like someone putting one reel upside stuff or a bad splice wasn't a issue. normally that was stuff that happen within the first couple of showing that had to be correct and later in the week there normally no issue. Oh and of course light bulb going out.
@@Marveryn >>> The light bulb going out?
Would that make it a _dark comedy?_ 😉
Hearing a run-through of the plot of Jupiter Ascending just makes me realize how much it sounds like a Wattpad story.
i don't know what a Wattpad is, but from context i guess it means nothing good. gosh, what an utter hogwash this movie is. did not see it, only know from this vid here, and wikipedia, and am happy. feel sorry for mila kunis. she's not soooo bad actress, is she?
So, if I'm ever making a movie, I'm definitely hiring you as stunt coordinator.
She’ll definitely not be afraid to give you her opinion.
"Yes Jill, that sounds reasonable, but it's not in the budget, were still in season 1"
Continuity call out: How Jill's hair becomes unkept as the video progresses and the process takes it's toll
Much like the devolving state of Peter Jackson's hair throughout the filming of the trilogy(ies), as seen in the BtS vids.
Sadly, though, while LotR took 3 films worth of organized chaos to ruffle PJ's hair, it took only this one film's unorganized chaos to achieve the same end here. My condolences, brave youtuber. We're just glad you survived.
It’s to show her growing insanity at fixing the move
"Expensive and time consuming and it does not look good" - I feel like this pretty much sums up the whole movie.
To be fair, there were a lot of scenes that looked fantastic. It's just that, for the most part, those scenes didn't have people in them.
Man, every time I reflect on Jupiter Ascending, my brain melts. It's not just that it's so fundamentally broken in so many glaringly obvious ways, but that it's from filmmakers *who know better.* That's what I don't get. The Wachowskis understand how to tell a good story. They understand how to use clever editing in service to the film. They understand how to make amazing action scenes. They understand how to write... reasonably interesting characters. HOW DID THIS MESS HAPPEN? It's like they literally took crazy pills and forgot how to movie.
They were too invested in their own project.
Thought this was going to be about how the directors could have deleted the movie from their computers but this is cool too
That would have spared us all.
Wonder how much fiddling Warner Bros executives did....
I love this video. I found Jupiter Ascending a great idea / universe but terribly executed, so seeing how it could be executed well is really exciting!
Random thought: Could we get some Jill merch that reads, "The Story Goeth Thusly"? I feel the burning need for at LEAST a mug and a tshirt with that written on it.
_"What the Jeff?"_ would probably be popular as well...😊
I know that Jupiter Ascending is a peculiar flavor, but I genuinely enjoy. Even so, I have always wanted to ‘fix’ certain plot lines, visuals, the incessant rescuing by Kane 😅 ... so thank you for making this video. It was very well done with a fine mix of humor and serious critique.
I think I like it so much because I took a class in college specifically about fairytales and how their plots flow. There's the three times the heroine has to face the same but slightly different challenge, where the logic of the world is less important than the emotion and story, and where they reversed the usual ending of such plots. The drama acting I loved. Zorg is just as over the top a villain, and yet people love him? Idk. I kinda hope this movie gets a remake some day to buff out it's rough edges, but I don't think that's going to happen. :/
@@rowanwax THANK YOU YES Jupiter Ascending is a woman-centered Fifth Element and Eddie Redmayne's character is its Zorg
Thinking back on it, I enjoyed watching it... But not enough to ever really do it again. I really would've appreciated like... Any development of Jupiter's character if they ever give it another go. Like I'm glad Caine got his wings back and all, but Jupiter herself doesn't actually... Do much. Which ig can be a personality, but feels like a waste of Mila Kunis' talent tbh.
"No jokes, please"
*cries in 12 year old boy
_By Jove,_ any jokes would be _astronomical._ 😉
Haven't seen Jupiter Ascending, but uhh I guess I'm here for it?
It is _amazingly_ bad. Eddie Redmayne's plays it like he's on Xanax half the time and cocaine the rest.
I find myself curious to see it just because it looks really quite different to most of what Hollywood's putting out these days.
@@Valdagast some critics (half) jokingly said Redmayne should give back his Oscar.
She trashes the big final fight, but it's Channing Tatum, on skates, boxing a flying dinosaur. I can't imagine a better reason to watch a bad movie.
Watch it. It's bad in some ways, but glorious in others. Also, you won't be able to follow on first viewing, but if you watch it multiple times, things start making sense. I'm obsessed with this movie because of the worldbuilding, so I think that's time well-spent, but you know, you make your own decisions.
So you're saying we need an HBO series? That's what I thought. **nods** With more bees.
Fewer bees, more worldbuilding and philosophy, please. And silly, campy fun.
NO! NOT THE BEES!!!
I never watched it when it came out, because the trailers alone convinced me this would be a shit show, but the way you fixed it made me happy enough to think I would have watched it had it been your cut. Not enough to see it outside the dollar theater due to the everything in the kitchen sink problem, but still.
Having it laid out like this makes me REALLY realize why I've always said I want to like the movie, but can't quite bring myself to do so. There's a good core here, but the action is just too bland and repetitive to feel compelling. I think what really hurts it is how easily small changes to the script could have recontextualized the rescue-rescue-rescue, and just little bits of dialogue in said scenes could have made character arcs work and really solidified the development.
Just imagine if, as the movie progressed, Jupiter grew more willing and better able to participate in the action, not necessarily as a competent combatant, but just more willing to take risks and act, grab a stray weapon and use it (which then pays off by reaffirming her unwillingness to kill in sparing evil-bro and provides additional character context for putting a stop to soylent shenaniganery), show the growing bond of trust and the sense of betrayal after being rescued only to IMMEDIATELY have the shady political backstabbing bite her for trusting. It wouldn't have taken much to make the phrases rhyme but build on each other instead of being the same chorus in a new venue.
Also, making the delays during the big ship rescue where EVERY SECOND is supposed to be vital arise from external factors to be overcome rather than dilly-dallying would have sold the urgency rather than undercutting it.
Want to like it. Really, I do. But it's not just Jupiter that needs saving in this movie. Like you point out, what can you do when just all the choices that went into the movie are the way they are?
i think that what hurt the movie the most is the repeative action of her being kidnap and being rescue. It happen so much it may as week as be a joke. AT some point you kind of want her to say no i am rescuing myself this time. The film could had save a lot of grief by cutting out one of the sibling. I know you need the sister to be there to explain why she is important and what she can do to keep earth safe. Horay? but the marriage thing to the last sib. You can combine one of those sibs with the other and save some of that constant Kidnapping plot.
This... This is beautiful. It is so refreshing to hear someone who genuinely knows their stuff critique a "not good" film, explain WHY it's "not good", and try to actually make it better.
So much more satisfying than the usual complaints of "I didn't like it" I usually hear.
"That's a little beyond our scope here."
Aww that's not giving yourself enough credit. There's an excellent opportunity to also go old school with a "Stuff You Like (About Things You Know Are Objectively Terrible -- I Didn't Say It Was Good I Said I Liked It)". ;-)
Could you imagine how long the video would have been though? 😁
@@JillBearup so? I can listen to you talk about this for 90 min at least. I understand if you don't want to put in that much work for this movie. But please don't think your audience would be disinterested.
No idea what this movie is, but I can tell you're having fun
It was a pet project of The Wachowski sisters
(who wrote the Matrix)
@@matthewmcneany >>> Are those two the ones that started off as brothers?
Yep, I'm definitely adding "What the Jeff?!?!" to my vocabulary.
I have never seen this movie but I completely agree with everything you said
I couldn't help but notice that as your edits progressed towards the finale of this increasingly incomprehensible movie, your hair seemed to get messier. Now that could just be cause filming videos takes a long time and hair is definitely not static, but coupled with how everything gets better when the tea comes out, it seemed like a fitting metaphor for what this movie must have put you through. Well, I'm assuming its tea; if it's not tea, you earned that, too.
0:29 yeah, we all had thoughts on the characters. And story (?). And the acting (which wasn’t bad, I don’t think, just, they tried). And ....yeah, I like this movie.
"It *is* Sean Bean. So we could just kill him off."
This poor man has been tied to his role of the condemned like no other.
If you haven't already, you really should check out RWBY, starting with the Red, White, Black and Yellow trailers. The fight animation and choreography is out of this world
I love that your picture is Jaune because I read your comment as him.
@@siddiqsmouse5004 What can I say... I'm a little very obsessed with that show
I love RWBY. I love watching other people watch the trailers. I love the music.
@@ladyscarlette6289 Then let's hope Jill sees this comment!
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The point Jill makes about "not enough dialogue" in action scenes is a great one! Before the Revenge of the Sith movie came out, there was a video game that more or less spoiled the movie, and I played it before watching the movie. During the final boss fight, which is Obi-Wan vs. Anakin, every transition from one part of the battle to the next was accompanied by a few seconds of dialogue. For example, Obi-Wan gives Anakin an in-depth apology for failing him as a mentor. He says he wished he'd warned him about all the pit-falls of the Dark Side. I remember feeling a bit cheated when I got to the actual fight in the movie and they barely speak a word to one another. Having Obi-Wan try to talk him down every chance they got made it feel more like this really was an old friend he was trying to save rather than like he'd simply accepted the fact that Anakin was his enemy now.
In short, yeah, dialogue is HUGELY important in fight scenes.
Loved the ruthlessness of 'This scene would have been improved if the camera operator was hungover.'
Also the Busted reference.
I could not resist the Busted reference 😁
i watched Jupiter Ascending in its entirety, I listened to your synopsis, and I STILL don't fully understand this movie.... a true achievement in incomprehensibility by this film
I liked Jupiter Ascending. Still do. Guess there's no accounting for taste.
You're valid.
I like it as a cheesy action movie
This video made Jupiter Ascending worth the price I paid to see it.
I watched it on a free to air TV channel.
Your opinion is valid, even if I don't entirely agree with it.
I like it so much it was the first and only movie that made me want to search for fan fictions and even write a few. The possibilities this universe provides are immense.
It’s a sad day when the people who made THE MATRIX put out such lackluster action scenes
In fairness, a huge part of the POINT of doing The Matrix was the action scenes, so they hired accordingly. Namely, they picked up an established HK Cinema fight coordinator and introduced HK-style fight scenes to Hollywood. The story and world were more of a thing they snuck in under the cover of cool fights.
The point of Jupiter Ascending was a giant high-concept worldbuilding exercise, and the fight scenes are instead just a formality because of course a big Wachowski blockbuster has to have fight scenes.
@@Duiker36 Cinema is an inherently collaborative process, sometimes I think people (especially people outside the industry) forget how much a good director relies on a team of qualified experts and instead adopt a 'great man' approach to film making, as if a director just wills a great film into being.
@@matthewmcneany yes it’s a team effort, but at the end of the day the directors are the ones who have final say on whether something was good enough or not. At the end of filming these scenes, they looked at these sub-par action set pieces and said “Yep, that’s a wrap.”
@@Duiker36 They had some very real things they were trying to do with the first Matrix movie. Take a peep at Patrick Willem's or - I think? - Movies with Mikey's commentary about these things. The HK fight scenes were definitely a thing they plonked in, but they plonked into a movie with a complete, if nuanced, story and very clear, if complex, thematics.
The Matrix Reloaded has entered the chat
I think I used the phrase "cinematic clusterf--k" in my review of this film. Good video!
I actually genuinely love Jupiter Ascending for reasons that are not easy to articulate, but I appreciate this video anyway. The constant cutting and dark lighting in fight scenes definitely are not appreciated and take away from what I do love about the movie. "Show more of Channing Tatum's body" made me lose it
"Youth regenerating soylent green bubble bath," Nice!
Watched on Nebula, came here to applaud the Busted quotation. Also, I really like that you come at this subject with a real understanding of what serves the story, it makes your videos really insightful as well as entertaining :)
I genuinely did not expect more than one person to notice that, so Ten Internet Points for noticing that 😁
The perfect movie would be directed by FoundFlix, written by NandoVMovies, and have Jill Bearup as the Stunt Coordinator.
I do kind of think that the Wachowski's problem is that they have all these ideas, want to do them all at once, and no-one dares to rein them in because they're the duo that made the Matrix. Like, how much better could this movie have been if when they had said "Okay we want to do a big flashy set piece where kain rescues jupiter" there was someone like Jill in the room to go "what, again?" like she is in this video. Just because everyone considers them creative geniuses doesn't mean every idea is good, guys, don't be afraid to tell them no
"Bees. My God." Also, is that tea in that mug or is it something more... Irish?
Peppermint and liquorice tea, good for the vocal chords 😊
@@JillBearup And whiskey?
@@Valdagast No, see, she drinks the tea without the whiskey, I drink the whiskey without tea. Cosmicly, it balances out.
Whiskey is gross, so you're welcome to it!
(I'm not sure if it's a side effect of being a supertaster but alcohol just tastes disgusting to me, regardless of what other stuff is in the drink. Eurgh.)
@@JillBearup You do mean alcohol and not beer or anything right ?
I haven't seen it, I kinda wanna guilt watch it. Then come back to this.
I hope you did. I watched it on free to air TV and this video at least made it worth the price I paid for it.
I needed the "goeth thusly". Not the plot recap, I had seen it. But just hearing you say that :) cheers on this one, thanks for slogging through it!
Hooray for learning shiny new skills and doing a thing.
I feel like a majority of your fixes was to the overall “grammar” of phrases of the combat.
Very solid work. I very much enjoyed this.
“Cognizance of your frame of reference” is my new lo fi hip hop Spotify channel
It would have made for a great twist for Jupiter to rescue Kane once. It got very trite with Jupiter always needing rescuing by the hero. It would have been nice to see her gain some self preservation skills as the plot progressed. At a couple of points I found myself thinking, just let her die and we can move the plot along with a different twist, or just the end credits.
I felt very little empathy with any of the characters, they were just pretty looking versions of tired tropes in a movie held together with exposition and too many special effects. They had some good actors and Channing Tatum, but wasted their skills.
I think your edit would have made the film easier to watch, but the lack of character arc or any development would still leave me regretting spending money to see the film.
I've yet to watch a video of yours that I didn't like, but this is a step above in itself. Your ability to identify and articulate problems and their solutions as well as successes and what makes them noteworthy is uncanny, hope to see more of your re-edits in future uploads.
Love your video! You do make valid points and I think they could have done the action scenes differently.
I must confess, I do really like Jupiter Ascending. To me it feels like one of those self-insert fanfics brought to life, and I just dig it. It does have problems and is such a wild ride... I understand why it's not everyone's cup of tea. Super fun to watch it theatres though. The audience reaction was hilarious
Okay, I'm genuinely impressed by *both* of your plot summaries. They were both accurate, and pointed out differents sets of important things about the movie's ... plot? ... that get missed, and they made coherent sense in and of themselves. That's really hard to do for this movie (and it's telling that your two summaries go about it differently), so yeah. Very impressed.
Outside the scope of what you were going for, but I think the main problem with the movie is that it didn't know what story it wanted to tell. It had cool ideas for high concept (space bureaucracy, planet harvesting, reincarnation via DNA signatures), backstory concepts (what are gray aliens?), and probably specific character concepts (wolfman! dragonman!), but it didn't really know how to connect the dots to make it a *story*. They ended up trying to jam it into a Cinderella story and the result was something that has no depth beyond a Cinderella story, but was basically copy-pasted sequentially a few times to fill out runtime and create space to show off different parts of the universe.
Without that structure, it's not surprising that the individual scenes came off as chaotic and confused, since they had no structure to be fleshing out. I mean, there are five factions: the three siblings, Earth, and Aegis: and three of them are in play for every scene with a conflict in such a way that it makes the stakes pretty unclear. Ultimately, though the unifying problem is this: there didn't exist any proactive action for Jupiter to take such that she would win the day. For a movie that throws so many chips into the worldbuilding pot, it just needed that one thing to rebuild the story around and apparently no one had any ideas. (My solution is probably to make it so she had a way to disinherit the siblings, but legally requiring that she do so in-person so that they have a chance to dissuade her. That makes it harder to put her in a wedding dress, but I think that's the only genuine loss.)
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One of the "symbolic actions" that didn't really come together in Jupiter Ascending was the parallel falling and rising of Jupiter, both conceptually/thematically/psychologically and physically. She is constantly tumbling and falling through situations and physical spaces. We're given some sense of rising when she "stands up" to each sibling, refusing and defying them, but that feeling always gets lost in the noise. It's only during the literal escape from planet Jupiter do we get a literal sense of ascent. I think that could've been better executed and may have helped with the overall reception of the movie.
Also, for being the presented love interest, Mila Kunis and Channing Tatum couldn't get any chemistry to manifest.
"It is Sean bean so we can just kill him off", most likely a discussion brought up in every movie with Sean bean.
Thank you Ms. Bearup,
Not just for this one video in particular, but for the understanding you've provided in describing and discussing these scenarios that occur in movies and TV shows. I've often had a curious unease watching a movie and feeling something was wrong, but not having the insight to describe the problem to myself, let alone to someone else. All too often, I've looked at action scenes (or fights) as just ... action; not having the requirement of building a character or advancing a plot. It's something that, when done well, you don't notice it but just luxuriate in the moment. When it's not done well, there's a restlessness that occurs and I feel myself reaching for the fast-forward button, even in the movie theater.
Kudos to you. Thank you again for your insights. And I'm looking forward to more of your videos in the future.
Oh my! Now you're doing fight scene fanfiction... Good on you for bringing my two favourite shows on your channel together.
Jill, your suffering was not in vain; I enjoyed this video immensely (and not solely because of the aforementioned suffering) and am very happy to be subbed to your channel.
I still love Jupiter Ascending !
I won't be able to watch all at once. 😭
OK watched it now. Maybe I have just been single for way to long, but why does she need a bloke to rescue her. I mean if she saved him once or twice it might have been slightly more interesting?
I enjoyed this "behind the curtain of scenes" look very much! And also your delivery. I hope you had fun making this, because it definitely was fun to watch.
I'm honestly impressed you could summarize the plot. I couldn't describe it if I tried. Its just a hot mess of phrases that if I were to tell someone they'd think I'd gone mental. " bees detect royalty" or that a person chose cleaning toilets over ruling over an advanced alien race for reasons or saying that a person named Jupiter Jones is not the next marvel superhero. Good job!
I've always enjoyed these videos as they do something that very important, namely pointing out what can be improved while pointing out just how bad something is. Like many, I've had beer and bad movie nights with friends where we riff on B-movies, but to deconstruct these films in such away that we can see the particulars of why they don't work is refereshing. Seeing the structure of why this comes across as a slap dash mess serves as a learning experience for creative folk as well, and something I greatly appreciate!
Did you say the FIRST time you watched it? You...you...you KNEW what it was...AND YOU WENT BACK? Brave and self-sacrificing. Also, at 2:01? My name is not "Shirley". AND "doodley-doo description-thing" should be in the dictionary. I got to twenty minutes in...then you were mean to me. Well...Okay...whoever voted for you to do that was mean to YOU. However, I am SO completely impressed and excited by your vast knowledge and wide array of talent! You one woman production team, you! So this video, subject matter that movie, was in deed well worth it! I will sing it's praises...once you finish the sheet music (I assume you're doing that next) until then...I'll just talk about it and highly recommend it! Kudos!
Every time she says "shooty shooty" my smile gets bigger.
I totally love Jupiter Ascending, and I love it more every time I watch it, but I have to admit, the Jill Bearup cut would be much better!
Your videos are always impeccable and detailed even when the subject matter is an eldritch horror ground up and served to the masses with popcorn. It is for this reason that I enjoy them so much.
_"See? I told you we were keeping Sean Bean alive for a reason."_
😊😊😊
I am amazed. You have actually made me glad to have seen Jupiter Ascending. Because I just spent 23 minutes going "Oh my god, that was a thing wasn't it?" instead of "Surely you're making this up!"
I love that you keep referencing Soylent Green. Such a classic.
Two years later... I so enjoyed the visual design I just forgave all the badness. The idea of a cathedral ship, a habitable sphere in the center of a maelstrom, double penetration of a red spot... oh wait.
I found the movie and the scenes quite pretty. It seemed to me (at the time) like they tried to stuff three or four movies into one (that's why we get the excessive repetitiveness, the bits that would add variety are missing).
Any-who. Thanks for being you Jill! I hope present you is having even more fun than past you seems to be.
... more of a plot summary than you could possibly want... Thank you, oh so much, Jill. LOL I thought you meant you were going to make SENSE out of it. :)
Thank you. This movie is my trash and I appreciate all attempts to deconstruct or improve it. Fight scenes are a great place to start.
1:09 What are the rich people doing to that toilet that requires Jupiter Jones to get down on her knees and give it such an intense scrubbing?
people and particular those that can afford cleaning service went there toilet spotless as it show you are a very clean person that don't enjoy germs
Thanks for doing this. As much as I found your fight scene analysis interesting, I was a little sad when I realised it would be displacing your traditional critiques of the work as a whole, so I am happy to see you come back full circle.
(Also I've also had an unreasonable soft spot for this movie because Jupiter makes the same decisions that I would for so much of the movie, and I was so happy to find a reasonable non-action heroine in an action movie.)
I hated that he saved her in every single action scene. Like at least let her save him once!!! Just once - and I don't care if it is by diplomacy or luck.
It’s understandable that a normal earth girl can’t fight dinosaurs, but she could have pulled a reverse Wakanda thing, O’h I’m the Space Princess now, that means the Royal Guard answers to me now “arrest Junior Volidmort over there and don’t be gentle “
This whole review and you didn't even mention how her owning the earth meant nothing because they weren't going to harvest it in her lifetime anyway....
In fairness, it would have relevancy for her descendants.
See they should have just had him teach her how to fight but her not being the best and then use her wits to get out at the end. Would have allowed her some agency if she knew how to fight or was shown saving herself with her smarts
(1) such an amazing video. There's a lot of... room for improvement... in Jupiter Ascending's action, and these suggestions are very much the Tim Allen 1990s sitcom of improving rooms (because he had a show called Home Improvement and I wrote a minute ago that it had room for.. *loses train of thought and gives up*).
(2) I get the impression that most viewers seem to have taken Jupiter Ascending seriously, but I thought it was the funniest film I've seen in years. The "bees don't tell lies" part nearly killed me. Then again, I'm not *entirely* sure the comedy is intentional. But that's why it works!
With the best will in the world though, the action is objectively terrible, and it's hard to believe it's made by the same people behind The Matrix, home to some of the greatest sequences ever filmed. At this point they really do need a Jill in the editing room.
Since you've done a fair amount of analysis of Wachowski projects, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on some of the fight scenes in Sense8. Specifically, the fight at the end of episode between Capheus and the SP gang (which is more Sun than Capheus, but whatever), the fight between Lito and Joaquin which culminates his arc, and since you love flirty fights so much, the second fight between Sun and Mun (he's Korean and it's pronounced "Moon", so... Sun and Mun ;P).
I got this movie as part of a 2-pack with The Cloud Atlas and I agree with all your thoughts on it.
Made the first scene 25% more watchable. That is true skill
Honestly the Warhammer Scene (rescue from second sibling) is one of my favourite Sci-fi moments CONCEPTUALLY, as it shows a Weaponized Kessler Syndrome*! Yes it's visually messy, but honestly I wouldn't know how else to show it... Maybe get the folk who made Gravity in?
*Kessler Syndrome is the chain-reaction of debris in space crashing into eachother, making more, smaller and faster debris that will shred any vessel trying to traverse areas affected! Weaponized it essentially creates an impenetrable field on the cheap! I honestly love all of these little clearly thought-through scifi concepts. Is it a mess at the end of it? Yes. Am I super glad the Wachowskis got to use their cred to make something this ridiculous and have it EXIST? HELL YES!
Would love to hear your take on fight choreo in The Old Guard - felt like a great example of storytelling through fight choreo: really *showing* how Charlize Theron and her crew have been a team for a very long time. Really enjoy your videos.
Not gonna lie, even with its flaws and shortcomings, I still love Jupiter Ascending. I am sad we probably won't get any more stories set in that universe.
Congrats, you saved the earth with editing!
Wow, Linus could take pointer from you on Sponsor segues. Well done.
Some movies are so messy that the correct approach is to snip everything between the studio/publisher splash and the end credit. Then insert a nice one shot of the studio head reading the following: "We considered actually putting the movie here, but we felt horrible about taking your money and wasting two hours of your life. So, we've opted to just take your money and save you time. Thanks for giving us your money. We'll try to do better next time."
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Finally, a video in which I disagree with you almost the whole time. Jupiter Ascending has become one of my favorites, warts and all, and many of your objections, I feel, come down to stylistic choices that you simply don't like, while I, within the context of this movie, either enjoy them as-is or give them a pass. I'm not going to go through point-by-point, except to say that I absolutely DO agree on: 1. the length of the chase/fight scene early on where Caine saves Jupiter from a fleet of spaceships (It's crazy long, and gets a bit wearing), and 2. the whole "rescue" scene inside Jupiter's Red Spot. Honestly, that entire scene needs a rewrite, although I love seeing Caine use his magic flying boots, and I like everything about his fight with the dinosaur. But the FALLING and the continual, ever-more-drawn-out breakdown of all of the structures around them, along with her NOT DYING, for SOME REASON, and then the big baddy being killed by something that looks no more or less dangerous/deadly than 99 other things that have already happened to both of them, that's just off-putting. Also, I'm never a fan of the hero/heroine just throwing away a weapon, I assume to show some sort of moral superiority. That's just stupid, no matter who you are.
I remember watching Jupiter Ascending.
I remember it feeling very short and very incomprehensible. And I found every minute of over the top absolutely hilarious.
I absolutely loved this video! Please do more like it!
I actually love Jupiter Ascending but couldn't figure out why I struggled to watch it more often and the things you explained about the lighting and editing of the action sequences helped put words to what I had felt but couldn't articulate. Thank you!
So happy that I found your channel. Your videos are always very informative and you have a great sense of humour too! You are obviously very talented at theatrical fighting, and the passion you have for your craft shines through. Keep up the good work, girl!
Somehow I completely missed the existence of this movie, and I think I do not regret that
I'm forever distracted by how great your hair is.
Hair can never be too red.
Also, Jill is insanely charismatic.
Thank you for your noble sacrifice
Appreciate the Dress up! Time Princess mention, I have a deep abiding fondness for the game
"Plotually confusing"; that's a phrase that needs to be added to the critics' toolkit.
As a viewer, Jupiter Ascending is one of those terrible movies that I vaguely enjoy because pretty colours and interesting stuff going on.
As a writer, Jupiter Ascending is my nightmare. Many writers, artists, oc creators, etc, often get carried away and create Mary Sue characters, much like Jupiter, overcomplicate things, and throw in a bunch of stuff that doesn't make sense but we want in there because it seems cool at the time. Everything about this movie screams to me "things you write before you know better". The title is a play on the main character's name. This can be an actually fun and effective thing, but not when it doesn't clearly manifest itself within the story (technically she's ascending the throne or whatever but that just isn't enough to justify it) and is used in conjunction with a bunch of other such things. Speaking of the main character's name, it's unusual and highly meaningful, which doesn't tend to happen in life that often beyond being named after someone - someONE, not someTHING. Next up, something that could really go either way is Jupiter's backstory and life. At first glance, it seems really great as writers can sometimes be afraid to go into things they haven't experienced, hence lots of these Mary Sue-y stories have really basic or badly executed backstories (this is a personal problem of mine, and the reason for my tendency to write white characters). But, some details with the cousins and stuff just don't add up, and there is the thing you mentioned about it making more sense if they go to Britain which personally I missed the British thing entirely but yeah overall the backstory could use a little help. The part where they are Russian might be (idk if it is, but it very well might be) a case of the writer randomly using their own nationality, again something I've done before. I've rambled on an absolute ton already (sorry) which is why I'll stop there but the are a bunch more of these little mistakes you make along the way, that in most cases get removed by the final version or the story just doesn't get put out there. I don't know how Jupiter Ascending came to be, but it honestly fits more like a Minecraft Roleplay than a film with known actors. I think this is the only Mila Kunis movie that I've watched and don't love.
I genuinely want to see the redone piece. I've never seen the movie but I got excited for your version. For reasons.
I lovingly described this movie to my partner as "my Twilight space trash," which is very accurate. There are very very very many problems with this movie, but there are entertaining or wonderful things about it too (the space DMV sequence! the costumes! grouchy dragon administrators!).
The fact that Jupiter cannot fight for shit so her emphasized strengths are internal and she's not considered weak for it, and wanting her to be just a normal, somewhat wish-fulfillment-ish protagonist who fell into a fairytale that has a uberfighter space boyfriend was one of the points that Lana and Lily fought for (studio wanted Cain to be the POV character), and I appreciate it because it's honestly an unusual female POV character that we see in action blockbuster movies nowadays (not that having the "I am woman hear me roar" is bad in female characters, but it does get boring having that be the only female blockbuster archetype after awhile, I enjoy variety). Of course, this maybe didn't need to be an action blockbuster and could've taken a much less serious tone proportionate to the goofyass plot, but I still love this flawed movie. I appreciate so much that you did a 24-minute dissection of this!