Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: M4A1 Sherman part 2

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  • In the second part of the "Inside the Chieftain's Hatch" episode about the M4A1 Sherman, Nicholas Moran takes a look inside and talks about a surprising omission that left the loaders feeling disappointed, and also shows a stabilizer that only a few could use. Enjoy!
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  • @lafeelabriel
    @lafeelabriel 7 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    "the loudspeakers are optional" That just made my day. :D

    • @leeboy26
      @leeboy26 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      'and paint ammunition' would have been the icing on the cake.

    • @mu99ins
      @mu99ins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Off Topic - Loudspeakers...that reminds me of Paul, of Paul's Engine Machine Shop in Santa Cruz, CA. Paul liked to drive his Buick Toronado down to Mexico and give presents to
      the kids of a village down there. The kids knew his Toronado and would swarm around his car when he was trying to find a parking spot, so he had a loudspeaker installed on the car
      to tell the kid to get back. If you live in California, Paul was instrumental in pushing legislation to allow self-service gas stations.

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "Always with the negative waves".

    • @creativecorner2071
      @creativecorner2071 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      “Don’t hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning.”

  • @j.4332
    @j.4332 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I liked how he debunks a lot of the myths about Shermans.Its likely that in any tank that is hit,and you have crew trying to get out,there might be guys already injured,or dead,and if only 3 guys get out,you could assume that 2 guys were simply trapped,rather than dead.

  • @holtz3943
    @holtz3943 7 ปีที่แล้ว +433

    Holy crap, that's a quick dismount. Any faster and you'd need ejector seats on that thing.

    • @canadianodst2360
      @canadianodst2360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      now imagine the fact that the crew would be younger, not worried about damaging the tank, or hurting themselves. And the fact that there is a real fire. That'd probably cut the time by 25% maybe up to 50% due to the motivation

    • @holtz3943
      @holtz3943 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      If crew managed to squeeze out of the hatches on the Comet and the T-34 in a big, big hurry, imagine what they could do on this thing. Shell goes in, crew pops out like (hopefully) five Jacks-in-a-box.

    • @canadianodst2360
      @canadianodst2360 7 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      well 4 jacks-in-a-box because you know. Fuck the loader

    • @Kennethah81
      @Kennethah81 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Literally laughed out load at that! :)

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Seems to me as well (I know this is an old comment, they all are, I'm late) that for all positions but the loader, the ability to reach in and pull out a disabled crew member is fairly simple as well. Two guys reach in, grab clothes at the shoulders and pull...

  • @lexworx7267
    @lexworx7267 7 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    The " oh bugger the tank is on fire " is still making me chuckle ! Keep up the good work The chieftain and team !

  • @GeneralJackRipper
    @GeneralJackRipper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    Now you know why the Soviets called their Lend-Lease Shermans "Cadillacs". The crew positions were so outrageously comfortable compared to the T-34, because the Armored Force understood one basic fact: a comfortable crew will fight better, for much longer. Compare the basic design philosophy of the Sherman to the Panther. The Panther is designed for maximum fighting performance, at the near total expense of crew comfort and ergonomics. The Sherman is designed for crew comfort and ergonomics at some expense of battlefield performance. The story about the mounting of the 3 inch gun is an example of this: While the gun offered a good performance upgrade, it was not incorporated into the design because it negatively effected crew efficiency.

    • @olivierr.5752
      @olivierr.5752 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Chris Maillet
      Thanks for the info! This is very interesting!

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      You did watch the Inside the Chieftain's Hatch episode about the Panther, did you not?? That thing is an ergonomic nightmare. It's all well and good to talk about a Tank as it appears in a friggin' video game, it's a whole other thing entirely to live in the damn thing for weeks on end.

    • @GeneralJackRipper
      @GeneralJackRipper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Tigers were plenty comfortable, the only problem is they could only build about 1500 of the things. The manufacturing process was enormously complex.

    • @HarverTheSlayer
      @HarverTheSlayer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      In my opinion, his heavy criticism towards the crew comfort in the Panther came from a very obvious reason: "what he's used to". He's used to drive American tanks, which are known for being rather roomy, compared to other countries'. And while he isn't as redundantly harsh towards russian vehicles, simply because everybody knows how horribly dreadful those weaponized cans are, he probably was critic towards the Panther from the point of view of a tanker used to American tanks all his life.
      German crews probably found their tanks adequate for what they had to do, just because that's what they had to work with and, frankly, they were pretty decent in that regard. As for the russians... Well, let's just say they had a lot less short people in the country after WWII.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  7 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      I suspect it very well may be a case of not knowing any better. For a tanker coming out of a 38(t), StuG or Pz III and getting upgraded to a Panther, yes, it will be thought of as roomy. And for the gunner and driver in particular, I can't really find much to complain about in the 'roomy' category. But when you actually have the ability to compare the ergonomics of an American tank, to show what can be achieved if the designers consider it important enough, then failings in other vehicles are brought to light. Not a single round stored in Panther's turret? That could be a problem when shooting to the side.
      As to Firefly, it can come down to a cost-benefit analysis and opinion. Every now and then, a British crewman might be thankful that he's in a Firefly, as he can punch a hole in a Panther with greater ease at short range, for example. On the other hand, that same British crewman might be cursing that he's in a Firefly if he finds that his opposition is an AT gun, or Panzerfaust infantry, which are more common threats. For that advantage in penetration, Firefly loses rate of fire, fire-on-the-move capability, ammunition capacity, a machinegun, long-range precision, and a man to help with maintenance. The British made the decision that this was worth it. The US did not agree. You can't claim that either side is wrong, I don't think, but similarly, you can't ignore the 'intangible' benefits that the non-Firefly tanks had, as they were very definite benefits in battle.

  • @meansartin
    @meansartin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The reason why you were encouraged to hide wrappers and cans from your rations was due to Aerial reconnaissance. Tin cans and rappers glisten in the sun and it would be very easy to figure out where troops have been or where they're heading to

  • @joba7671
    @joba7671 7 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    I love you tank Jesus. Never stop making content.

    • @TNX255
      @TNX255 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Agreed. Let's all go buy some gold and premium vehicles in World of Tanks so he can keep making these great videos :)

    • @eeeboytvr
      @eeeboytvr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The factual history is so much better than a game ;)

    • @sethvagi5180
      @sethvagi5180 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hi

    • @T3hderk87
      @T3hderk87 7 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Tank Jesus should do a face off with Gun Jesus from forgotten weapons !

    • @Dedfaction
      @Dedfaction 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Derek Frankovich Stop, I can only be so erect.

  • @allenatkins2263
    @allenatkins2263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "We need a loaders hatch!"
    "Why, are loaders in short supply?"

    • @coaxill4059
      @coaxill4059 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately I think this was true. Loaders can be relatively untrained, compared to commanders and gunners who need to be intimately familiar with their equipment and orders.

    • @duytranuc4025
      @duytranuc4025 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coaxill4059 bow gunner

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      @aresvincent2773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      I was stupid forgot the account password. I would love any tricks you can offer me.

    • @enzonikolai9939
      @enzonikolai9939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ares Vincent Instablaster ;)

    • @aresvincent2773
      @aresvincent2773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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      I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.

  • @kc5sdy
    @kc5sdy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I have been watching a lot of these videos and love them all. This one in particular hits close to home. I have a great uncle that was in the 3rd Armored Division, 33rd Armored Regiment in WWII. He died going into Cologne. We know he was a tank driver but are not 100% sure what he drove. From what research we have been able to put together, we are about 80% sure, he drove a Sherman. Thank you for what you do. Getting an inside view of what my uncle controlled is something extraordinary.

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Under LT Kellner's command?

    • @kc5sdy
      @kc5sdy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterson7082 I do not know off the top of my head.

  • @GARDENER42
    @GARDENER42 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This has to be one of the best presentations you've done. Truly excellent.

  • @Pyrela
    @Pyrela 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I hear the early Sherman tank's escapability was rated 4 out of 5 stars by the crew!

  • @AdamMann3D
    @AdamMann3D 7 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Please keep doing Shermans, I love the caliber of these videos.

    • @witmanntheinfinite
      @witmanntheinfinite 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adam Mann hello Adam. Didn't expect to see you here. Your videos are the best

    • @AdamMann3D
      @AdamMann3D 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks very much. Chieftain is a very legit armor historian, so even though I don't play WoT these videos are fantastic. I even plan to somethign similar with a few near me at some point.

    • @Skull-in-the-house
      @Skull-in-the-house 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      These 2 were very good, I thought it was because I am American.

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would be fun to see him squeeze into the turret of the Firefly since he keeps refering to how cramped it must be =)

    • @Skull-in-the-house
      @Skull-in-the-house 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lavrentivs Yea good point. I would love to see that from inside too

  • @Platinumsniper
    @Platinumsniper 7 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Sad thing is. Those rations are probably still good for consumption

    • @mattthew2429
      @mattthew2429 7 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Skystalker no ration is good for consumption...

    • @shidder_mutt
      @shidder_mutt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      +Matt Thew well someone has a week gut.

    • @ZoidFile
      @ZoidFile 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are people on youtube who actually consume such old rations.^^

    • @dylangreen9819
      @dylangreen9819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ZoidFile yeah like steve 1989 MRE info

    • @some2guy
      @some2guy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ykhm Steve1989 :D

  • @DanielWW2
    @DanielWW2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That was quick with part 2, I love it. :D

    • @interdictr3657
      @interdictr3657 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was expecting to wait weeks like usual!

  • @richstanton8545
    @richstanton8545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for 2 great videos that are both educational and entertaining.
    My eldest paternal uncle, Tommy, was a driver of an American M-4 Sherman in the ETO of WWII. Tommy was a good fit for the job considering that he stood 5'4" if you stretched him. He, like his middle brother, Phil, was extremely taciturn about their experiences in World War II. Phil had been a Seabee in the Pacific.
    Your 2 videos have given me a bit more insight in to what Uncle Tommy went through.
    Thank you, sir!

  • @AndrewArndts
    @AndrewArndts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Maj. me thinks you Sir need a wee bit of Jamison's before singing... that alone made watching to the end very much worth while.

  • @Zattk94
    @Zattk94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Now we need more Irish folk songs in each episode

  • @DanielWW2
    @DanielWW2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Still secretly looking at that Pz IV, mister Moran. ;)

    • @sam8404
      @sam8404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He finally got around to doing an Inside The Hatch on the Pz IV.

    • @badcornflakes6374
      @badcornflakes6374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1000 days later...

  • @norgeboy72
    @norgeboy72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like your series. Accurate, informative & fun. Giving honest opinions on historical afvs. Pros & cons. Keep going. I love it.

  • @georgewilson5303
    @georgewilson5303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this video. This is the tank that my uncle drove in the army. They got hit by what thinks was a tiger. He lost a larg part of his right leg. But he got out ok. Just wanted to let you know I appreciate the tour of his tank. Thank you

  • @kangeegold7177
    @kangeegold7177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So from what I gather about the Sherman in this video, is that it was rather mediocre in term of armour and firepower, but all of the secondary systems were what made it so much more capable. It's relatively easy and comfortable to use in almost all aspects. Quick to engage, comfortable to drive, easy to aim, easy to load. It seems to be built purely around the mentioned idea that the 1st to shoot is the 1st to win, and absolutely everything about the whole tank makes getting that first and second shot easier.

  • @mattf4u-496
    @mattf4u-496 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Saw that you uploaded this,stopped everything I was doing instantly.

    • @a_common_weeb
      @a_common_weeb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      *titanic 1912* hay look a new episode of cheftons hach. Cool. Oh a icberg. Huh.

    • @maxmustermann-ie6ic
      @maxmustermann-ie6ic 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      logan Random last name this is the Internet
      Hahaha

  • @lucisferre6361
    @lucisferre6361 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for including your singing of a tank chanty at the end of the video.

  • @rre9121
    @rre9121 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. Gratifying to see a tank that did so much right.

  • @tacticaltrex6490
    @tacticaltrex6490 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    if u ever get a chance.... id love to see an episode on the Merkava!

    • @askingstuff
      @askingstuff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trex Dave No modern vehicles.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's done some more modern vehicles. There's an older model of the Merkava that could fit the bill. It's more a question of being allowed to do a video on one, my guess.

    • @hansmueller3029
      @hansmueller3029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Alasdair Stewart lol. There'll always be an Ireland

  • @fluffycat087
    @fluffycat087 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Nice, as for the last clip. Don't give up your day job.

  • @jackjohnson83
    @jackjohnson83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my great grandfather served in shermans in the 40th btn royal tank regiment during the second world war never had the pleasure of meeting him. unfortunately he passed away in a car collision in the 80s but just watching this gave me a small view into his world. story my grandad passed down to me about his father is that he was say out of the hatch and had some shrapnel go through his forearm he was sent to get fixed up but some shrapnel was still lodged in his arm and my granddad said you could push it up and down his arm under the skin, another story he told was his commander stuck his headout and had it removed by a german shell direct hit to his commanders head, he told my granddad they pulled him down to then realise what happened.

  • @armedbrit493
    @armedbrit493 7 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The song at the end:
    [Triggered in 1916]

    • @collinfreese2987
      @collinfreese2987 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The song is The Foggy Dew

    • @armedbrit493
      @armedbrit493 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Celtic Resistance You misspelt foresters.

    • @InsertEvilLaugh
      @InsertEvilLaugh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@collinfreese2987 Sinead O'Connor and the Chieftans did a fabulous cover of it.

  • @HB45175
    @HB45175 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Oooh a K-ration! Someone call Steve1989 so he can eat it for us! It'll be nice™!

  • @dylangreen9819
    @dylangreen9819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Kelly's heroes is great

    • @tibne2412
      @tibne2412 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Woof Woof

    • @Ha22austme77
      @Ha22austme77 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The Ghost of the Flying Dutchman "it's a mark 6 and we got it by the ass".

    • @TheRandCrews
      @TheRandCrews 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Knock with them Negative Waves, Moriarty !

    • @dylangreen9819
      @dylangreen9819 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      only way to kill a tiger is to hit it in its ass

    • @billy007191
      @billy007191 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Ghost of the Flying Dutchman we have special ammo , its filled with paint, and when it goes off it makes beautiful colors

  • @Meditech509
    @Meditech509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Absolutely amazing. I really enjoyed the time and effort put into this series of videos.

  • @monkeydude3987
    @monkeydude3987 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos are among my favorite on TH-cam. Really enjoyed this one, and I look forward to other variants of the M4 you are able to review. Thank you!!!

  • @MongooseJakeNerf
    @MongooseJakeNerf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video as always.
    The entire portion you spent on the optics and stabilization system had me thinking: Shouldn't the advantage this provided be reflected in-game by the Sherman having one of the best aim-times of any of the mediums in tier 5? Seems odd that given the historical advantage the Sherman had in this regard that it would not be given the same.

    • @Orb_Pilot
      @Orb_Pilot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The stabilization is implemented in-game: Not only do the different Shermans have generally superior gun handling compared to similar mediums, but last time I checked the tier 6 Shermans (E8, Jumbo and Firefly at least, dunno about premiums) have access to the vertical stabilizer-module. You otherwise don't get access to it 'till tier 8.

    • @MongooseJakeNerf
      @MongooseJakeNerf 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not really referring to the tier 6 variants.
      The M4A1 featured here would be closest to the tier 5 Sherman, and simply look at the other tier 5 mediums. With the top turret and top gun (76mm) the Sherman has a aim-time of 2.3 seconds, which is tied for worst among non-howitzer guns.
      The better aim times are right at the 2 second mark, with the M7, Sherman III (with the 6 pdr), and G1R all being tied for that.
      With what Chieftan stated about being "turret down" and being able to very quickly engage a target, the M4 should have a faster aim-time than its fellow tier 5's to reflect this (or at least be on par with the class leaders).
      The Sherman already is not the most mobile, nor does it pack the most damaging gun, nor have the best pen (good all around however), but if it was able to snap shots off even better it'd be even better at working ridges which is its strong suit.

    • @Slayer_Jesse
      @Slayer_Jesse 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      At the very least, the Tier 5 Sherman should get access to the V Stab upgrade.

    • @MongooseJakeNerf
      @MongooseJakeNerf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Slayer Jesse That'd be pretty nice as well, and a fair way to implement what I'm referring to (faster aim time) since the Vstab makes your aiming circle 20% smaller.

    • @uni4rm
      @uni4rm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's called power creep.
      Back when the Sherman came out in the game, it was one of the best tanks at tier 5 outside the stupidly imbalanced KV, and 2.3 aim time was excellent, and most tanks didn't have anything better.
      Really, it still is one of the best tanks at tier 5, outside the silly, arcade 57mm machine-gun plink tanks.

  • @warrenchambers4819
    @warrenchambers4819 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was posted on my birthday. Thanks for the birthday gift Chieftain. Love the Sherman tank, currently building the old Monogram 1/32 Calliope Sherman kit. I know there's a better Sherman tank model kit out there, but this one takes me back to being a kid again.

  • @olivierr.5752
    @olivierr.5752 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Suggestion for the chieftain's hatch : It could be very interesting if you did a tour of the Toldi I or II. Sadly, the only remaining ones are in Kurbinka. But if you happen to get by it, I think it would be worth the detour :)

  • @74groundhog
    @74groundhog 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Kelly's Heroes reference. Looking forward to watching you get into an improved M4!

  • @eeeboytvr
    @eeeboytvr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thumbed up for the singing at the end :)

  • @tahunkwai5979
    @tahunkwai5979 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    thaxs for the video also great singing voice

  • @Dan-qp1el
    @Dan-qp1el 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoy this history and the way you present it! Thank you.

  • @stephenweaver7631
    @stephenweaver7631 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The "Snake anti-mine devise" was several lengths of bangalore torpedo that were pushed across a mine field by an M4 (in this case) and then a fuse was attached (the small hatch) and and the tank disconnected (also small hatch) and reversed to a safe distance and set off the torpedo. Boom, instant safe path across!

  • @pcharliep61
    @pcharliep61 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos, I have been watching you channel for a while now, very good please keep them coming.

  • @ericbrammer2245
    @ericbrammer2245 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I was a poor (well, I'm still 'poor') College student, in Phoenix, Az, i sold my 'Starfleet' and "Ro-Co" hand-painted models thru a Mall-shop north of town. I put out, at the shop Owner's behest, three Tank "battle Scenarios", along the lines of 3 Time-lines; WW-2, Korea-Nam-Era, and 'modern day'. My 'WW-2' set-up was a Pz-III, 2 Panthers, and a King-Tiger, Vs. a Comet, Churchill, and 2 Shermans, and a Hellcat. One of my 'Shermans' was modded to be a 'Firefly' (Ro-Co didn't make that, so a Scratch-built 'whatever' didn't kit out). I did the 'scratch-built' thing to make a FAV from a Kublewagen, because the Chenowith's were barely even in testing, yet. Anyhow, my Sherman-long-gun Vs. Panther set got the attention of two WW-2 vets, one Austrian/German, the other from New Mexico. They Argued, for about a half-hour, over both tanks, just outside the shop! The Austrian/German calling the Sherman's "Ronsons", the US Vet noting we could escape, but also noting that the 'Big-Gun' Shermans only feared King-Tigers, and JS-2's!! The two left, still bickering, but alongside each other. Two days later, my Shermans, a Panther, and King-Tiger, plus other things like some Jeeps, Opel trucks, etc, were marked as 'Sold'. No one took my Sheridan-inspired 4-x57mm Radar-controlled scratch-built AA gun system? Would've been in service by 1990, I swear! Oh well.. I wish those to Vets the best (I'm certain, by now, they're at Peace),; it was an enlightening discussion to over-hear! I hope they were happy with my attempts at painting the camo of the era.

  • @forthleft
    @forthleft 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really admire the way you do these things.

  • @3DBlockBuster
    @3DBlockBuster 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you, Nicholas for a great review of the great tank of WWII! I have a particular question about the subject that is wildly debated, and the one you already touched a few times in your previous tank reviews... That is a gun stabilization in Sherman tanks, but unlike firing from a concealed position(as you mentioned in this vid) how much accurate firing on the move this tank is? What speed, distance and battle situation would this stabilization would make a difference in a tank battle? I know that engineers of Panther tank kinda thought of implementing of "accurate" fire on the move by making a Panther suspension very smooth, or was it to fire effectively on distances over say 400 meter, was only to completely stop a tank, and even then its not a guaranty to hit it on a first shot? What does it takes(gun stabilization in vertical and horizontal planes, target ranging, some ballistic computer) to fire effectively on the move in a modern tank? And again what is the reasonable speed and distance for firing on the move for modern tank? I'm sure I'm not the only one who curious about it, and unfortunately can't find this info in a books on armored vehicles. Oh, BTW love the way you present a material, just keep 'em coming. Your loyal fan, BB.

  • @dposcuro
    @dposcuro 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Chieftain, another excellent pair of videos done!

  • @Perfusionist01
    @Perfusionist01 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nick - terrific video. I hadn't ever read or heard about the balance qualities of the 75mm gun in the M34A1 mount. By the way, those screws around the inner gun shield - they were not for "upgrading" as much as they facilitated pulling the entire mount when the weapon or mount was damaged or needed heavy maintenance. There are several WW2 photos from rear areas showing Ordnance personnel pulling the gun mount with the aid of a wrecker truck. Then the gun could be replaced and the tank was put back into service. Those screws were part of the "Shermans are easy to repair" equation (along with a steady stream of replacement parts). Tank fans who focus on the guns and armor failto appreciate that the Germans were chronically short of spares for their tanks and new tanks were often canabilized to keep others running/fighting.

  • @cjmj26
    @cjmj26 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite part of these videos is that you are wearing the appropriate footwear...I'm planing to go to Bovington in March, and will be bringing mine too!

  • @ThumperLust
    @ThumperLust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks!

  • @Ph33NIXx
    @Ph33NIXx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Optics is very nice! being able to find the target in "body hide" as a periscope is a target you'll seldom see in a tree line or towards the top of the hill

  • @mihalybalint8969
    @mihalybalint8969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Oh bugger! The chieftain is singing!

  • @donvanduzen8944
    @donvanduzen8944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for helping to dispel the old " deathtrap" myth. In North Africa, the Pacific and most of the Italian campaigns, the Sherman was equal to or better than the enemy armour. It was in the bocage hedgerow country in Normandy that the Sherman got its poor reputation which wasn't fair. No tank ,even Panthers, would have faired well in the close quarter short range engagements . Once out of the hedgerow country, the Sherman's numbers, effective dual purpose gun, and reliability overran the Germans. Yes allied airpower helped of course.
    In the Pacific the Japanese had nothing even remotely to counter Sherman's. They had good antitank guns and soliders willing to sacrifice themselves to destroy a Sherman though.
    All tanks will burn when penetrated. Tigers and Panthers were not exceptions. The German commanders envied the over numbers of allied tanks, as they knew at the end of the day that was was counted. 100,000 Sherman's and T-34 vs 5000 Panthers, 1500 Tigers of all types, 8500 Pzkfw IV tell the story. And very few tankers on the Western front EVER encountered Tigers. They were very rare beasts and on any day only a handful would be in action over thousands of miles of front.

  • @BatmatYT
    @BatmatYT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I demand 80mph Shermans in WOT :p

  • @AlphaGator9
    @AlphaGator9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy your tank reviews. Very interesting. :) Thank you.

  • @dragonsword7370
    @dragonsword7370 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So glad for the video but especially d for the Kelly's Heroes reference, especially the loud speakers!

  • @ur2c8
    @ur2c8 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am reading a book written by a British officer who commanded a platoon of Sherman tanks in WWII and he states that the gun recoil guard was removed by tank crews to create more room. Also, extra ammunition was stored on the floor.

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That extra ammunition was the main reason why so many M4's burned up after being hit. The M4's fired a lot of HE rounds when advancing so their crews like to bring along extra rounds out of fear of running out of ammo during the heat of a battle.

  • @richardschaffer5588
    @richardschaffer5588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10 seconds from “O Bugger” to boots on the ground! Stuff like this is invaluable historical research, especially now when most of the WWII vets are gone:(

  • @Colinke
    @Colinke 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    the best part in this vid is 18:13 - 18:20

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For those who haven't seen the segments yet, Major Nick also says nice things about Panzer III and Panzer IV crew positions.
    It seems possible that everyone had trouble fitting big guns into tanks. Thus the inefficiencies of the Panther's 7.5cmKwK42/L70, and the need for bigger turrets on the Sherman/76 and T34/85, both derived from other projects, in order to mount larger guns.
    Panzer IV, oddly enough, was perfect for upgunning (from the 7.5cmKwK40/L24 gun to the L48 "Lang"). The problems with front heaviness (later coming to roost on the JdPz IV and StuPz IV) might've been part of the reason its turret front armor was not increased to 80mm in the G and J. Overall weight concerns are there, too, but the StuPz was pretty weighty, so a better protected turret might not have been out of the question.

  • @AN_PVS-2
    @AN_PVS-2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the M4, thank you for doing this.

  • @zombiehampster1397
    @zombiehampster1397 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The foggy dew rebel song at the end was a nice touch :)

  • @gavinplunkett977
    @gavinplunkett977 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I am a fan of the Sherman (M4) and when I play World of Tanks it is my go to tank.

  • @alorikkoln
    @alorikkoln 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some things that Mr. Moran did not mention. Mortality rate was about 25% if the Tank was knocked out. Compared with the T-34 which had about 85%. Compared with the T-34, the Sherman driver did not get a stiff neck after driving the tank a couple of miles, which would have impaired his driving capability. The T-34 used to be my favorite tank, but the Chieftain convinced me, that the Sherman was a superior tank and much more ergonomic, even though I find the T-34 more beautiful.

    • @TheEvilmooseofdoom
      @TheEvilmooseofdoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It actually changed depend on what took out the tank. The average was closer to 20% but gunfire was about 24% casualty rate.

    • @justforever96
      @justforever96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't bother choosing 'favorites', because what's the point? I like them all for their good points, and their interesting points. The world doesn't care into what order I personally rank them, and it's almost certain to be wrong anyway, since it all depends on what the situation is, what factors you are counting, how you weigh your priorities.
      That said the Sherman, T-34 and Pz IV all appeal to me, because they were the real war winners, plain workaday tanks that did their duties in every battlefield. They weren't the "best" by metrics others use (it seems that most people rate the "best" tanks as the ones that "kill other tanks the best", but that was really a secondary duty for most tank units, except the Germans who badly needed to kill lots of tanks). That and these are the tanks that people are always badmouthing and talking down about, based on whatever books they've read, their "stats", etc. The M4 may be the most appealing of the bunch, because it doesn't even get the credit that the T-34 gets. PLenty of people claim the T-34 was "the best tank of the war" without any real reason, almost no one says that about the M4. Yet the M4 was at least as good as the T-34, and was at the very worst still on of the top ten best tanks in the entire world in 1945. Almost all of the negative stuff people say about it is just because it was at a disadvantage against the Tigers and the Panther. As if tank-to-tank fighting was the only reason that tanks existed. The M4 was a wonderful mobile, cheap, easy to repair armored vehicle, good at fire support, infantry support, able to cover a lot of ground in a hurry. It was not meant for going out and fighting enemy tanks (although it was meant to be able to handle itself). I think the M4 was an excellent design overall, when all the factors are weighed. Even if it wasn't as good as some German tanks (which is only true if you are only counting tank-killing ability and nothing else), it's stupid to say that it was a "terrible" tank. Not being as good as the very best does not make something "terrible". Japanese and Italian tanks were terrible (and even that is a dubious statement; each should be viewed in context). Most nations didn't even HAVE tanks, or if they did they were relics from the 30s, 20s, or even WWI veterans. IN terms of numbers produced, the M4 was better than 95% of the tanks in the world, by number. And that is, again, assuming that the "best" tank is the one that kills other tanks the best. In fact, that was ALL the later German tanks did well, at the cost of effectiveness in all other roles. And while a tank-killing tank may be a big deal in a game where all you do is go around and blast other tanks, in real warfare there are other more important things to worry able. Also, in a video game the tank rarely breaks down in the middle of nowhere, and you don't need to spend hours and hours maintaining and repairing it keeping it running. These things matter in real warfare.

    • @billwilson3609
      @billwilson3609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The T-34 did look impressive for being an utterly unreliable piece of crap that had major design and production flaws. They performed better after Stalin took US automotive engineers' advice to redesign some components, have trained machinists to manufacture critical parts, add shock absorbers and to have the engines and transmissions removed for inspection and repairs after ever 50 hours of run time. Stopping their tank armies to do the engine and transmission inspections/repairs caused delays that allowed the Germans to set up new defensive positions and bring up more supplies.
      The M4 was supposed to run for 200 hours before the users would start experiencing engine problems yet the Army decided to swap out the engine and front drives after 150 hours of use for refurbished ones to ensure those stayed operational at all times. The mechanics with their forward repair stations monitored the condition of all the tanks so would have that done after 50 to 80 hours of use to tanks that were being abused by inexperienced drivers and experienced drivers that tinkered with the engine speed governor so they could go faster in all gears by running the engine at higher RPM's.

    • @sheilaolfieway1885
      @sheilaolfieway1885 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The T-34 is a mechanical marvel The sherman is a Cadillac. The T-34 may have a nicer look and sloped armor but if the crew can't use it well that's not very helpful is it? the one thing that bugs me is that in warthunder the T-34's 4 man crew make it less survivable.....

  • @WildBillCox13
    @WildBillCox13 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice pair of episodes and thanks for posting!
    Glad you did the M4 (as separate from your enjoyable, but technically not as descriptive, 360 with WoT eu opposite number, Mister Cutler, the Challenger) at long last.
    I will be happy to see the M4(L) episode also, of course, the T23 turret being a much improved item of equipment and the GAA and GAZ being rated for higher power.
    And . . . what? No canister? No APCR? No Shillelagh? No Anti-helicopter rounds?
    A question for your technical folks, if you haven't addressed it in other work: whose radios were the best for range, clarity, endurance, and ease of replacement/repair?

  • @williambinkley8879
    @williambinkley8879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The size of ammunition fascinated me. I was a gunner in the Navy working on a 76.2mm gun system. So basically the same diameter of shell. That’s where the similarity ends. Our round was easily twice the size. We had a nearly flat trajectory over the range of the gun.

  • @stephenbirks6458
    @stephenbirks6458 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    An amazing insight into the Sherman Tank - Very informative & once again very interesting !
    I am here really to see what the Tiger Tank interior was like ! - Before I start bulding it ?
    Obviously not a real one - But a 1/16 scale magazine build its all there collected over nearly 2 years and parts still in bags & packets - nows the time to build it ( C19 Detention) plenty of time on my hands !

  • @jltaco85
    @jltaco85 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "oh bugger the tank is on fire, try doing that in a t-34.....wont work".......god i love this guy!

  • @Nikarus2370
    @Nikarus2370 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    26:04, I've got you clocked at around 9.25 seconds from the end of "oh bugger the tank is on fire" to your feet hitting the dirt.
    I'm rather impressed. Wonder how fast you could do it if the tank was actually on fire?

  • @MrLemonbaby
    @MrLemonbaby 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your visual essays, best I've ever seen. Keep up the good work.
    Here's some things I would like to see in the future and yes, I still put out cookies and milk on Christmas Eve.
    Starting with each tank I would like a quick run down on the weight/to power ratio, the pounds per square inch ground pressure, gun caliber and velocity and how many degrees the gun can be depressed. The latter would indicate how good a tank it would be in ambush mode. I've read that in the 60s American tanks had 10% depression of the gun while the Soviets had zero.
    A very nice feature of your reviews is the livability of the tank; more of that please i.e. fumes from the guns etc. Could you mention the evolution for cleaning the main gun and/or general tank maintenance?
    Also, what do you think is the minimum number for a tank crew? Some have said that only three crew is too few for the ongoing tasks need to maintain the vehicle.

  • @Dutch1951x
    @Dutch1951x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Would love to see you do one on the M-48.

    • @Anolaana
      @Anolaana 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris VanOsdol: He did the M47, which is essentially the same less some upgrades. Have you seen that one?

    • @Dutch1951x
      @Dutch1951x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lots of turret difference.

    • @Dutch1951x
      @Dutch1951x 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anolaana Seranaar the hull is much different as well.

  • @Wallyworld30
    @Wallyworld30 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch this video about once a month. I love the Sherman thank you chieftain!

  • @jetgold
    @jetgold 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent history information, plus that is my top favorite tier 5 in the game on the American tech tree.

  • @Axemantitan
    @Axemantitan ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is having an escape hatch in the floor a liability in the case of landmines? I would imagine that it makes a weak point in the armor.

    • @TheChieftainsHatch
      @TheChieftainsHatch  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A reasonable assumption, though I have not seen any official analysis on the subject

  • @mattnixon7728
    @mattnixon7728 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like the reference to Kelly’s Heroes! One of my favorite military movies.

  • @everythingsalright1121
    @everythingsalright1121 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Chieftain,
    Would you ever consider doing modern vehicles if given the chance? I love your sense of humor and how thorough you are with every vehicle you enter, you always have so much to say. I've had trouble finding videos done in your "style" with modern vehicles, and well, heh, I'm not too keen on joining the armed forces to find out first hand.
    Of course WWII tanks are good too, so even if such a thing won't ever see the light of day, I'm happy enjoying what content you already put out :D

  • @phil20_20
    @phil20_20 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Drilling a hatch hole that big in the field is some feat indead.

  • @Theduckwebcomics
    @Theduckwebcomics 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the singing at the end there!

  • @sasquatchishere7453
    @sasquatchishere7453 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the great video. Keep up the good work!

  • @johnfyten3392
    @johnfyten3392 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great videos man. I love learning about this stuff.

  • @americanpatriot2422
    @americanpatriot2422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Outstanding video and presentation

  • @Crackelacks
    @Crackelacks 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video, amazing content. Keep up the good job

  • @scottgray3945
    @scottgray3945 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should try the Ropkey Armor Museum in Indiana. I'm pretty sure they have a few M4A3E8s on display.

  • @TwinklesTheChinchilla
    @TwinklesTheChinchilla 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching that spotlight move around is trippy.

  • @johnnysager8899
    @johnnysager8899 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A beautiful tank and thanks for the great information

  • @justforever96
    @justforever96 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was more to it than "drilling a hole and installing a hatch". You need to change the tools and jigs, stop production while the new ones are set up, you need to set up a production line to build the hatches and hinges, etc. All this takes longer than you think, and at that point they were only interested in getting lots of tanks built. A loaders hatch doesn't make the tank a better fighting tank, so it just wasn't worth slowing production for such a minor detail. They got the project underway as fast as they could, especially once more lethal German tanks and guns started showing up. Remember, BEFORE 1943 the M4 was perhaps the best tank in the world.
    Also the pintle gun could be fired from the hatch. No one was going to climb out on the rear deck to use it. Why would they bother mounting it in that case? The gun rotates 360 degrees, and was primarily meant to shoot at aircraft (originally). You are making the assumption that you'd always have the turret facing forward, but in reality it was easy enough to just rotate the turret to face backwards, leaving the commander standing at the hatch with the .50 facing forwards (or whatever way you wanted). They probably figured that first, it was in the way up front, and second, that since there was already two .30s and a 75mm covering the front quadrant, the biggest threat was an enemy getting behind the tank. Thus the .50 mounted where the commander could easily pop out and spray the rear area of the tank with bullets. Simple. The Soviet KV and IS tanks had a dedicated 7.62mm MG mounted in the back of the turret for this purpose (although they could again rotate the turret to bring i to the front, if for some reason they wanted another MG to spray the area ahead, if advancing on a field of infantry for example.)

  • @samanthaholmes8294
    @samanthaholmes8294 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man he was not kidding when he said pistol grip for the spot light. It looks like it even has wood grip panels

  • @3rdrevant
    @3rdrevant 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really hope you can do a Panzer IV and/or III. Love to see how they compare to others. Also, are there pre-85 T-34's still around? Mostly, I'm interested to see how many changes were made.

  • @momotheelder7124
    @momotheelder7124 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So there are two very nice things about this tank compared to it's contemporaries: relatively spacious and good visibility for the crew. I like that there is more than one periscope for each crew member.

  • @Jay_Mac1775
    @Jay_Mac1775 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Sherman doing 80 would be a terrifyingly spectacular sight

  • @MeetDannyWilson
    @MeetDannyWilson 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    23:42 Regarding the Snake anti-mine system, it was a mine-clearing line charge, an "oversized Bangalore". According to Wikipedia:
    _"A mine-clearing line charge (abbreviated MICLIC ... or "mick-lick") is used to create a breach in minefields under combat conditions. ... The British and Commonwealth developed their systems during the Second World War. The Canadians developed "Snake", an oversized application of the Bangalore Torpedo in 1941 to 1942."_
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine-clearing_line_charge

  • @bigpappahemi4263
    @bigpappahemi4263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "...goes up to 80. There's optimism." LOL

  • @jeffhoward9186
    @jeffhoward9186 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job in showing the tank and dispelling the myths and providing facts. Interesting that they were not called hatch’s… to me a door has a door knob while a hatch has dogs to open and close/lock it. Maybe that is the sailor in me to debate. The old saying is that on shore it’s a door while onboard a naval vessel it is a hatch.

  • @sirboomsalot4902
    @sirboomsalot4902 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks like the most comfortable tank you've been in!

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant! That's made my Friday evening. Well, that and the Guinness I'm drinking ;)

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job with the overview.

  • @lightdot459
    @lightdot459 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for doing this video

  • @thalfis
    @thalfis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:58 - This is Nicholas Moran, he is an unequivocal tank guru. Today Nicholas is going to demonstrate how not to be seen...

  • @mattziegler2969
    @mattziegler2969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It gets a bad rap, but the Sherman was really an awesome tank. I also never realized how well armored it was, compared to the Panther

  • @ralach
    @ralach 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A tear-inducing rendition of "Foggy Dew"..? ;)

  • @Thebonesoftrees
    @Thebonesoftrees 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    fantastic episode

  • @Red0100
    @Red0100 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any plans for more Swedish vehicles? I'd love to see inside the hatch of a Strv 103

    • @DornishVintage
      @DornishVintage 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Here's the driver's position. And, moving to the back of the tank, here's the other driver's position!"