Oh and I guess this month is #MARCHintosh and it entirely slipped my mind while filming this. Honestly didn't plan on making this an official entry into that, but hey, it sure fits in with the theme. Definitely search for that hashtag on TH-cam to find a bunch of other Mac-related videos being posted by folks this month!
Dude the thumbnail gave me chills just seeing this! I was in grade one in Canada and due to the language barrier of only knowing Portuguese as a kid this mac was the machine that taught me to speak, read and write in English. Incredible to see something from so long ago buried in the depths of memory get pulled out. Thanks for this video LGR.
I got myself a Mystic because of ActionRetro’s build. I mean to be fair I collect retro gear that I upgrade and mod to the very top possible spec that it’s compatible with (stuff like classic iMac g3’s running the Summer 2001 700mhz CPU, max’d ram and SSD, etc… in this Apple context and wayyy more), but Action Retro’s videos made me finally pull the trigger on these insanely expensive rigs
My father brought one of those beauties home one day and I caught him playing Missile Command on it late one night. I was in awe of the system. Not only was it in color, but the carrying case it went into was a THING TO BEHOLD. He was always the first to chomp down on emerging tech trends. Even went so far as to introduce me to a guy at a PC shop when I was 11 to build five 386SX-16 clone PCs for my father. Learned a lot from that guy. Little did I know PC #5 would be mine... Or I'd be taking my father's ZEOS 386SX-16 laptop to high school... Funny thing about my introduction into computers... I was five when my father brought home a Compaq Portable. I was in awe watching the cursor move in a spreadsheet application. Never knowing the future impact my father would have with Lotus 1-2-3. Cut to 2022... I work in a field I NEVER thought I'd be in. Granted I wanted to work with computers. Often fixing things that could not be fixed. Never did I think I would work in healthcare IT. Or to have the amazing folks I work with to hand me a system and say "It's dead.", only to hand them the same system hours later saying "It's fixed!". Still... Needles... Not my thing.
Clint: I have a Mystic I built some years back. Mine is full blown: full 68040 CPU 130mb memory a rewire to the video circuits to get higher resolutions, Extra video memory and it has been over-clocked: (100mhz).Oh and a 2gb SCSI drive plus 2x external CD, a Asante ethernet card and a Apple II card. I used to write articles for retro-tech magazines back in the day and wrote this one up. Mystics are awesome
We got these at my elementary school in 94 or so? went out for Christmas vacation and when we came back the 25 or so Commodore 64's were all gone and these replaced them. Was quite the shock and change to 10 year old me.
I swear if I ever come across this for cheap, I'll renovate an entire room in my house to look like a 90s home office, just to make a shrine for this to properly be on-display.
I wish people wouldn’t modify these with a lc575, keep it og , I’m a proud owner of one and the limitations is part of the appeal for those that grew up with it. This was the first computer I ever used and started my love affair with tech
So many of us here remembering these little fellas from our elementary school days, I remember around Grade 4 they got replaced with G3 Macs, while we had these though they were seemingly magical little machines to my young mind. Alongside our old beige windows XP tower at home they both kinda set the roots of my love of computers to this day. I think if I saw one of these or a G3 appear locally I would be desperately scrambling to get it and give it a new home in my collection, and they are the only Apple devices I truely desire still. Even all my windows hardware runs Linux now but I would deffinitly preserve the original OS of these classic Macs
I had one spanking new. I upgraded it and it was awesome, I ran Aldus Programs in it, had a cd player/recorder and a modem oohhh and also an external HD with 40 MB, loved it
My elementary school was FULL of these! There's a sketchy computer repair shop close to where I live and if you go up to the window, you can see one with the name of the school corporation still written on it in marker! They used a Finder replacement called At Ease to keep kids from messing up all the settings and making sure that all you could launch was the approved edutainment software all of them had. Naturally I figured out how to bypass it and my parents got quite a few calls home...!
I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but those two smaller modules are for the system ROM and video RAM, not main system RAM. You can unofficially install a 128 MB SIMM to upgrade it to 132 MB total (combined with the 4 MB onboard), but that causes a very long delay of staring at a blank screen when you turn it on, since these Macs check the RAM before they initialize the video. And as mentioned by others, you can get a 3D-printed rear panel that matches the ports of the LC 575 logic board.
I think its time you call up your mother and tell her you forgiver her for selling the Mac. Its been many years. Thats a long time to hold a grudge over selling an old Mac computer. Its not worth the grudge.
I remember using one of these machines back in high school in early 1996. I think the school ones were outfitted with the default 4 MB of RAM and had OS 7.5 on them. They were so slow and painful to use they put me off of Macs for a number of years. My 1992 486 PC that had 12 MB of RAM and a CPU upgrade running Windows 95 seemed like a speed demon compared to any of the school Mac Color Classics! Still though it's very cool to see this surviving machine! I'm sure you'll give it the love and care it deserves!
It would feel like that…this crippled budget entry level Mac - even when new - was sporting a 16mhz 68030 cpu + with the OS updated to 7.5…..more like a 386 running win 95…..s l o w
People think these are ugly? I know swooping white/beige shapes have gone the way of the dodo in design but I don't know, it's quite a compact and neat design; I like it.
We had these in my elementary computer lab! I've been dying to remember what model it was, and as soon as I saw the thumbnail I couldn't believe it. Thanks for the hit of nostalgia.
Ahh the classroom computer from middle school. Cool fact I discovered, if you double clicked the paint bucket icon at startup you could bypass At Ease and get to all the applications they didnt want you to use like Sim City 🤯😁 That won me lots of hacker cred in 7th grade 🤣
Same. I went to a small K through 8 school. We had these ones, later on I think some Mac Performas from like 95 or so and then I think my last year they got some brand new iMacs, those neon ones. The older grades would get the better computers and they would essentially hand down the older ones to the younger classes.
I remember discovering that a file dialog in one of the Microsoft Office applications had a way to delete a file from the filesystem and you could use it to browse to the folder where the At Ease binary was and delete it which disabled At Ease (at least my memory says it worked for the exact combination of hardware, OS, At Ease version, MS Office version etc that the lab in question had at that time)
I was the technology specialist at a private school in 1992, and we used At Ease mostly successfully. One tech-savvy student got around At Ease a few weeks after we opened the lab with the new computers. We caught him and he was very apologetic. He was in fact a very good student and did not have ill intent other than to "see how to do it".
One of the first hacks I pulled off in the early 90's was to overwrite the At Ease extension with a ClarisWorks document and then reboot... full access to the entire machine after that! Lol!
We had one of these in our computer lab in grade 5 in addition to all of the greyscale Mac Classics. We would fight over access during typing class so we could get on and play Kid Pix in colour! Awesome blerb.
I appreciate that they fully embraced the curvature of the trinitron display and embedded that design language into every aspect of the front fascia of the machine. It does make it less inherently charming than a classic Mac like the SE30, but it still has its virtues. The display, for example, is excellent if you can find a low hour example. Displays produced under the Trinitron license are all universally lauded for their excellent quality.
The smaller SIMMs on the board are VSIMMs to upgrade video memory. I've actually got an LC575 with a battery eaten board, which it's just about impossible to find a replacement for because people use them for these mystic upgrades.
if you have a video card driving a second monitor at 640x480 or higher, its possible to start the game, resize it, and play it at 512x. I play it in that way on my SE/30 that way!
I remember using a Macintosh Centris/Quadra 650 (Yes, it has an internal optical drive) that one of my aunts owned back in the day. Seeing any Macintosh from that era boot up without fail always brings out the child in me.
I have a Color Classic. I put the LC550 logic board in it to make it more usable and love it. That board uses the same port layout and the computer identifies itself as a Color Classic II which is cool.
6:45 After Dark games were such a crazy idea: remember that they could only use the modifier keys for input, since these did not terminate the screen saver. But press any other key, or accidentally move the mouse, and the screensaver (and your game) was gone.
Yeah, I had a Quadra 650, quite a bit beyond this Mac, but I remember having no problems switching After Dark to some sort of game mode. I was also in my mid-20s at the time, so I would do things like read the directions... lol 😁 I'm pretty sure that was just you not knowing what you were doing, not a problem with the games.
Dang, I love (and loved back in the day) the hidden handle right on top of the case of these Macs. Sure, you sliced your fingers on the sharp corners but it was convenient and slick.
I have a '91 Macintosh Classic with the traditional black and white display (as well as a Classic II). This is the best look I've ever seen of the Color Classic! Thank you for this.
When I was in elementary school in the late 90's, I was the resident Mac nerd, I loved all the old Apple II's, LCs, etc. When my school got rid of everything to replace with the sawtooth G3s, they gave me A BUNCH of old pizza box LCs, LC575 all in ones, Apple IIgs, etc. Like 6 of each. I had my own little vintage mac lab set up in my room where'd I'd tinker with them, network them, tear them apart and put them back together, etc. Now I'm absolutely kicking myself for throwing them out in early-mid 2000s.
All the but the art teachers in my high school had a similar looking slightly newer Mac Colour Classic II sitting on their desks. Art class teachers had pizza box PPC Mac Perfomas. The AIO Macs were everywhere in education facilities here, but they were almost always larger 13-15" models. Never would've guessed old beige Macs would be valuable when I got rid of mine back in ~2007.
I bought this machine brand new in 1993. The 10” screen is excellent and has the coolest design. I still love this one, of course it needs a big power boost.
Expensive in 93, being sold at the university for way too much money to students I remember. You could loan money there and pay back during 5 years(!).
I don't have as much nostalgia for the Color Classic as I do for some other classic Macs, but it does remind me of a time when I went to a children's museum, and they had a Color Classic with Kid Pix in the section intended specifically for preschoolers/Kindergarteners.
That After Dark collection is pretty good. I was a beta tester when I was a kid for the Windows versions and it was so much fun. The Star Trek add-on was excellent, I still have a poster for it.
Definitely not as clean/sexy of a case design as like the SE/30, but still a lovely piece of color Mac history. I owned one of the early Mac II (68020) that I upgraded as far as I could before jumping into a Power Computing clone back in that time period.
I was just in the middle of a retro Macintosh deep dive on TH-cam (my first computer was a Macintosh Performa 630CD) and it's crazy nice that LGR and the algorithm has blessed me so.
I remember a few years back I turned one of these into a TAKKY (PowerMac 6500 300MHz PowerPC 603e motherboard swap). Was the hardest mod I’ve ever done but in the end it could run MacOS 9.1, Doom II at full FPS, and quake at an OK frame rate (however if I used a 3D accelerator card it would run well but only on an external monitor). The modding scene for these computers is crazy and it’s all well documented in This Does Not Compute’s video.
I grew up on a SE FDHD and then Mac II with almost *exactly* those peripherials, my aunt had a Color Classic. This, especially when you showed After Dark, is just the most wonderfully nostalgic thing i've seen in a while!
It's amazing how Apple made the decision to cripple the IIGS when it could have been the runaway leader over the Macintosh back in the late 1980s and ealry 19990s.
Yeah, the primary issue was that the IIGS, as brilliant of a piece of computer engineering as it was (due in no small part to Steve Wozniak Himself), was a rival of Steve Jobs' darling project -- the Macintosh, which itself was a nerfed version of Job's earlier "Lisa" system. Despite the fact that the IIGS's combination of newer, advanced hardware plus near-perfect backwards compatibility w/ older Apple ][ / Apple IIe software & peripherals made it a potential bridge to longtime Apple users who were willing to upgrade their systems as long as they didn't have to abandon their entire existing software library & throw out their investment in Apple ][ hardware accessories, Jobs was hellbent on launching his own in-company project to promote what he considered The Ideal Computer System ...which apparently had no native support for color video output nor an easy path for DIY hardware upgrades (in its original incarnation, the Macintosh required both a security-screw driver + a specialized tool to crack open the system case -- all just to open up the damn thing). Compared to the entire Apple ][ line which (except the //c which was designed to be highly compact) featured multiple hardware expansion board slots & easy access to the internals, the Macintosh was a huge step backwards.
@@zenkim6709 I was just thinking that someone should reintroduce Apple to screws. A Mac enthusiast at work was saying that replacing the failed hard drive in his iMac will involve prising through glue.
I remember seeing one of these in a store back in 1993. I was really tempted to buy it, as I found the color Sony Trinitron display to be quite beautiful and sharp (up until that point, I'd only used a LC with a B&W monitor).
I used to install Performa motherboards into this model. It required a highly modified loom, plus modifying the monitor section to handle 640x480 video. Worked like a charm. Turned it into a real power machine. Well, in those days it was impressive. These days - not so much.
I love that you were so close to letting us know where you live before your brain said "NOPE". Thanks for yet another trip down memory lane. The design language of this Color Classic brings me back to my first Mac - a Performa 7200CD.
He's definitely mentioned it before. I seem to recall it was Winston Hills but I"m sure it's not because that's in Australia and Clint is in North Carolina.
I remember seeing a fleet of these at the computer lab at LSU back around 93-94’ when my friend Erik would take me there to hang out because his dad and mine were both teaching there. He showed me all the games that these could play and he was pretty stoked about them.
As I had used BOTH the Color Classic and the 500 series as a retired Teacher, that 10 vs 14 inch screen was a huge thing back then! I had an LC-II at home with a LC-575 as my main computer, and a color classic as my backup until the District bought in Windows Computers. Miss those old Macs so much!
i remember those from school. we had 90% classics, but a few color classics, and SE's and LC's. that was about it for us to use, teachers had other models in their classrooms though, even some still with the old apple IIc machines
Yeah, I remember the days I used to use the original Macintosh at high school. They let us play Prince of Persia after the lesson, so I got hooked on the game, which made me seek the SNES version later. Fun times!
Cool video! That Mac is very similar to the one my school had around that time; NumberMaze and Oregon Trail and that mac paint program with explosions. Fun times. Cheers!
Really cool seeing one of these again, when I was working at a local computer shop an older man dropped of this machine and a bunch of software and accessories for it. I believe it even included a very early version of photoshop. Still kicking myself to this day for not keeping it
I was wondering, I think 12/31/1969 was the usual "time zero" for Macs. This had to do with "Unix Time (or Epoch)". Before writing a proper calendar program, B&K just made a second timer count from the beginning of the year (this was around mid-March of 1970, on a PDP-7, I think) At this moment it's Unix Epoch 1647460917. Many Apple programmers used Unix, that was the inspiration for A/UX, which was whittled down to Macintosh Programmer's Workshop, which was about $400 in the mid-90s. A lot of history in that glitch!!
Okay, so my elementary school in the early 90s had Apple IIe's. Dozens of them. For the students. Teachers didn't have desk computers yet, so it was just the IIe's. Until fifth grade, when the school got one of _these._ Once a week a class would go to the library and the liberian would show us stuff on it. On the encyclopedia. It was cool. Students were not allowed to touch it. But. I, along with another girl in fifth grade were "junior librarians." Meaning we stayed after school to help put books away, and even excused from class for a little each day if the librarian had to leave. Anyway, _we_ were allowed to use the Mac and it was incredibly awesome. The girl, who was actually a friend of mine, would look up Beatles clips on the encyclopedia and just watch. In the time before TH-cam, that was a real treat.
(11:52) I have always been fascinated by boards that have a socket for some sort of chip. It always makes me wonder what it was for and what it could do with whatever was intended to get slotted in. Oh, the possibilities! The possibilities!🤪😉
It was for an 68881 FPU. Some Macs, like the LC and LCII, did not have a socket for a FPU, you had to use the PDS slot. Since there was only one PDS slot, this allowed you to have both the FPU and Ethernet at once.
@@CybershamanX geeze, I guess I'm old because I remember just about every board having a socket. Hardly any Mac owner actually got an FPU, it was stupid expensive. IBM PS/2s tried various proprietary sockets for chips and even RAM, and Compaq and other clones experimented as well. Very many of them stayed empty, sometimes the intended board never went into production. Manufacturers were still wondering if people would stubbornly hang onto the same computers for 20 years. Windows 3.1 and '95 showed people were willing to buy an entirely new PC, taking advantage of Moore's Law. I had the fascination, too, but it often turned to frustration, and now, still, vendors on ebay are charging extortionate prices for vintage upgrades.
Yep, the square socket accommodated a co-pro (IIRC though certain Macs needed a ROM upgrade, one reason why ROMs had a dedicated slot instead of discrete chips). Also the rectangular chip in a socket is the net boot (NetBIOS) chip - which allowed the Mac to operate like a dumb terminal and boot up over the network
I appreciate your channel. Very positive and it is cool seeing the retro technology from back in the golden age. I started on an 8086 running DOS 3.0... haha.
Iconic design. It was so different from the ordinary PCs... It was covered in this aura of being special and unique. Daaamn dude, that's a MAC. No, that's The MAC!!!
i saw one of these as a kid in the 90s in a display i believe at the entrance of a walmart, and lusted after it so hard. perfect kid-sized computer in the 90s
LC stood for Low Cost. There were buggy versions typically found in 68LC040-based Apple Macintosh computers. "Chips with mask set 2E23G (as used in the LC 475) have been confirmed to be faulty." from Wikipedia
@@vwestlife Macs typically had buggy revisions of the 68LC040. That's the motivation for re-labelling them, they aren't just lower-teir; They have a fault relating to pending writes being lost when the F-line exception is triggered. Also the microcode can't be updated, the only solution is to get an authentic 68040
I always wanted to get a Colour Classic and do a Mystic upgrade. The Japanese Mac mod scene was nuts in the late 90s/early 2000s, guys were packing G3 accelerator cards into these systems. So cool.
Clint, you unlocked a memory of pushing those buttons on the front. I 100% don't remember where or when it happened, but it had to have been in elementary/middle school.
@@squirlmy My dad questioned it, too. For whatever reason, the guy was able to shut it off completely by dragging "Mac HD" onto the trashcan icon. 🤷 He and my dad are long dead, so I can only repeat what they told me.
My father bought one of these back in the 90’s to do some writing on and from my experience it was an OK for that purpose but not a great Mac overall. The original Color Classic from 1992 was basically just a Mac Classic II (‘91-‘92) with a color screen and for around eight months you had a choice between the two similarly spaced Macs, one with color and one without. The Mac Color Classic II was release only eight months after the Color Classic I but only in Japan. It fixed some of the original Color Classic’s shortcoming by doubling the CPU speed, doubling the bus speed, and adding stereo sound (vs the mono sound it’s predecessor). Had it been released in North America it would have made for an OK color compact all-in-one Mac for the time period, cramped screen aside. Apparently the Mac Classic I & II were particularly popular Macs in Japan where many people live in cramped apartments and an all in-in-one Mac like this suited many of them better then the larger Mac tower & desktop computers with separate monitors. I’ve heard that a thriving third-party market developed for mods/upgrades of Color Classic I & II in Japan that keeped these Macs useful for longer then normal. I personally sort of like the design though I had issues with the specs/perforamnce on the original Color Classic I and it’s small 10” screen. The original Mac CC the sort of Mac that had it debuted a few years earlier would have been OK as budget/compact color Mac but by the time it actually came out, the Classic II platform it was built on was getting long on the the tooth.
Your first Mac was my first Mac. And my Mac was my first PC. I loved that thing to death. (Literally, because before a lightning strike made it a blue smoke generator, I couldn't even save a 1K file.) After that, I got a Gateway Windows machine with Windows ME. The 575 was what I learned all the PC basics on, it's what made me absolutely fall in love with anything PC. Hell, I still have my Myst journal from the big box Mac version I got when I was a kid. My 575 had the Performa badge on it, but it was essentially the same machine as yours.
Obviously the donator of this machine does not care about money because a very good condition working mac color classic sells for stupid amounts of money. LGR is one hell of a lucky person to have been donated this.
That Mac is great, but I can’t take my eyes off the Voodoo 5 6000 box in the background!! Please do a video on that sometime. So much nostalgia for 3dfx.
Oh and I guess this month is #MARCHintosh and it entirely slipped my mind while filming this. Honestly didn't plan on making this an official entry into that, but hey, it sure fits in with the theme. Definitely search for that hashtag on TH-cam to find a bunch of other Mac-related videos being posted by folks this month!
Happy #MARCHintosh anyways! :D
Works as a great entry!
Heck yeah, happy #MARCHintosh2022 to all! Great Color Classic you got there, I'm excited to clean it up and see it running for years to come.
is that a Quick Time Sticker on the front of that mac?
#MARCHintosh2022 if you don't want to look at time stamps of a #MARCHintosh post :)
Dude the thumbnail gave me chills just seeing this! I was in grade one in Canada and due to the language barrier of only knowing Portuguese as a kid this mac was the machine that taught me to speak, read and write in English. Incredible to see something from so long ago buried in the depths of memory get pulled out. Thanks for this video LGR.
As a Canadian, this brings back so many memories as well. My school growing up pretty much only had these, and I spent many years tinkering on them.
Brasileiro ou português? Reading this made me fuzzy inside
@@joshuaduplaa9033 Both of my parents immigrated from the Açores.
thats awesome
@@c31979839 I can't remember what Macs we had in school but this one looks familiar
Ooooh that's one classically colorful beaut!
That it is! Looking forward to seeing more of the one you've been working on
Hello Action! :)
What video game consoles dose lgr have? any games with them
I'm suscribes to both LGR and Action Retro, this vid appeared on my feed and I thought it was the part 2 for the Mac Frankenstein lol
I got myself a Mystic because of ActionRetro’s build. I mean to be fair I collect retro gear that I upgrade and mod to the very top possible spec that it’s compatible with (stuff like classic iMac g3’s running the Summer 2001 700mhz CPU, max’d ram and SSD, etc… in this Apple context and wayyy more), but Action Retro’s videos made me finally pull the trigger on these insanely expensive rigs
My father brought one of those beauties home one day and I caught him playing Missile Command on it late one night. I was in awe of the system. Not only was it in color, but the carrying case it went into was a THING TO BEHOLD. He was always the first to chomp down on emerging tech trends. Even went so far as to introduce me to a guy at a PC shop when I was 11 to build five 386SX-16 clone PCs for my father. Learned a lot from that guy. Little did I know PC #5 would be mine... Or I'd be taking my father's ZEOS 386SX-16 laptop to high school...
Funny thing about my introduction into computers... I was five when my father brought home a Compaq Portable. I was in awe watching the cursor move in a spreadsheet application. Never knowing the future impact my father would have with Lotus 1-2-3.
Cut to 2022... I work in a field I NEVER thought I'd be in. Granted I wanted to work with computers. Often fixing things that could not be fixed. Never did I think I would work in healthcare IT. Or to have the amazing folks I work with to hand me a system and say "It's dead.", only to hand them the same system hours later saying "It's fixed!".
Still... Needles... Not my thing.
Clint: I have a Mystic I built some years back. Mine is full blown: full 68040 CPU 130mb memory a rewire to the video circuits to get higher resolutions, Extra video memory and it has been over-clocked: (100mhz).Oh and a 2gb SCSI drive plus 2x external CD, a Asante ethernet card and a Apple II card. I used to write articles for retro-tech magazines back in the day and wrote this one up. Mystics are awesome
"Well that's a good sign, we got ourselves a bong."
-LGR, 2022
We got these at my elementary school in 94 or so? went out for Christmas vacation and when we came back the 25 or so Commodore 64's were all gone and these replaced them. Was quite the shock and change to 10 year old me.
The old school Mac "BONG" definitely is nostalgic for me. So nice to see one of these old machines again.
It's funny because the one they still use on modern macos sounds like a 64kbps sound file ripped straight out of 1993.
I swear if I ever come across this for cheap, I'll renovate an entire room in my house to look like a 90s home office, just to make a shrine for this to properly be on-display.
sponging on the walls, carpeted floors, external modem, bbs list printed out on the wall, AOL floppies reformatted.
renovating an entire room ain't cheap, the price of the computer will be a minor factor
Go all Frasurbane on the home office look
@@mgjk and decorations with extra squiggly lines
I wish people wouldn’t modify these with a lc575, keep it og , I’m a proud owner of one and the limitations is part of the appeal for those that grew up with it. This was the first computer I ever used and started my love affair with tech
I had the tray loading CD ROM for my LCIII back in the day! They are huge.
So many of us here remembering these little fellas from our elementary school days, I remember around Grade 4 they got replaced with G3 Macs, while we had these though they were seemingly magical little machines to my young mind.
Alongside our old beige windows XP tower at home they both kinda set the roots of my love of computers to this day.
I think if I saw one of these or a G3 appear locally I would be desperately scrambling to get it and give it a new home in my collection, and they are the only Apple devices I truely desire still.
Even all my windows hardware runs Linux now but I would deffinitly preserve the original OS of these classic Macs
I had one of these in high school, loved it.
I had one spanking new. I upgraded it and it was awesome, I ran Aldus Programs in it, had a cd player/recorder and a modem oohhh and also an external HD with 40 MB, loved it
My elementary school was FULL of these! There's a sketchy computer repair shop close to where I live and if you go up to the window, you can see one with the name of the school corporation still written on it in marker!
They used a Finder replacement called At Ease to keep kids from messing up all the settings and making sure that all you could launch was the approved edutainment software all of them had. Naturally I figured out how to bypass it and my parents got quite a few calls home...!
So glad I stumbled across this video! The Color Classic was quite an amazing machine! I miss my Color Classic!
I'm sure it's already been mentioned, but those two smaller modules are for the system ROM and video RAM, not main system RAM. You can unofficially install a 128 MB SIMM to upgrade it to 132 MB total (combined with the 4 MB onboard), but that causes a very long delay of staring at a blank screen when you turn it on, since these Macs check the RAM before they initialize the video. And as mentioned by others, you can get a 3D-printed rear panel that matches the ports of the LC 575 logic board.
he wont do that
@@everythingpony It's not that he won't, but he could.
wow this is cool
Ooh, the Mac Color Classic! My mom had one of these back in the 90s! I’ll never forgive her for selling it at that garage sale…
How much she get for it?
@UCOGvM_OYBgR96lMuAop05Pg No clue. She sold it back in ‘97 so probably not much at all.
Could be worse, my parents sold all their Apple stock a couple years before the iPod was released 🤦
I think its time you call up your mother and tell her you forgiver her for selling the Mac. Its been many years. Thats a long time to hold a grudge over selling an old Mac computer. Its not worth the grudge.
How I feel about my Apple IIgs and all its software and books.
When the gentlemen that gave that too you shows up to your house wearing a sweater with the same bears on it as the OS background….run!
I remember using one of these machines back in high school in early 1996. I think the school ones were outfitted with the default 4 MB of RAM and had OS 7.5 on them. They were so slow and painful to use they put me off of Macs for a number of years. My 1992 486 PC that had 12 MB of RAM and a CPU upgrade running Windows 95 seemed like a speed demon compared to any of the school Mac Color Classics!
Still though it's very cool to see this surviving machine! I'm sure you'll give it the love and care it deserves!
It would feel like that…this crippled budget entry level Mac - even when new - was sporting a 16mhz 68030 cpu + with the OS updated to 7.5…..more like a 386 running win 95…..s l o w
I always thought it was a very nicely designed machine.
People think these are ugly? I know swooping white/beige shapes have gone the way of the dodo in design but I don't know, it's quite a compact and neat design; I like it.
The 3D-printed thingy looked a lot like a RaSCSI, which would actually be quite a good thing.
I love the more off-the-cuff style of Blerbs. It gives off the feeling of hanging out with a buddy, geeking out over something cool.
We had these in my elementary computer lab! I've been dying to remember what model it was, and as soon as I saw the thumbnail I couldn't believe it. Thanks for the hit of nostalgia.
Ahh the classroom computer from middle school. Cool fact I discovered, if you double clicked the paint bucket icon at startup you could bypass At Ease and get to all the applications they didnt want you to use like Sim City 🤯😁 That won me lots of hacker cred in 7th grade 🤣
Same. I went to a small K through 8 school. We had these ones, later on I think some Mac Performas from like 95 or so and then I think my last year they got some brand new iMacs, those neon ones. The older grades would get the better computers and they would essentially hand down the older ones to the younger classes.
Wow, I’ve been trying to figure out what that alternative desktop from my memories was called…At Ease. Thank you!!
I remember discovering that a file dialog in one of the Microsoft Office applications had a way to delete a file from the filesystem and you could use it to browse to the folder where the At Ease binary was and delete it which disabled At Ease (at least my memory says it worked for the exact combination of hardware, OS, At Ease version, MS Office version etc that the lab in question had at that time)
Yes! when randomly clicking on stuff could get you into unauthorized stuff!!!🥰 Good times.
I was the technology specialist at a private school in 1992, and we used At Ease mostly successfully. One tech-savvy student got around At Ease a few weeks after we opened the lab with the new computers. We caught him and he was very apologetic. He was in fact a very good student and did not have ill intent other than to "see how to do it".
One of the first hacks I pulled off in the early 90's was to overwrite the At Ease extension with a ClarisWorks document and then reboot... full access to the entire machine after that! Lol!
What an absolutely beautiful and generous gift to the channel. That is not a cheap gift (I googled the prices, WOW), love to see the support for LGR.
We had one of these in our computer lab in grade 5 in addition to all of the greyscale Mac Classics. We would fight over access during typing class so we could get on and play Kid Pix in colour! Awesome blerb.
I appreciate that they fully embraced the curvature of the trinitron display and embedded that design language into every aspect of the front fascia of the machine. It does make it less inherently charming than a classic Mac like the SE30, but it still has its virtues. The display, for example, is excellent if you can find a low hour example. Displays produced under the Trinitron license are all universally lauded for their excellent quality.
The smaller SIMMs on the board are VSIMMs to upgrade video memory. I've actually got an LC575 with a battery eaten board, which it's just about impossible to find a replacement for because people use them for these mystic upgrades.
Sounds like a good candidate for a RaspberryPi case... The biggest problem being how to interface to the display.
I have an lc575 in the basement, I better check the board to make sure battery hasn’t destroyed it!
Watxh his video about the warehouse in Texas. How far are you willing to go…..
@@scurvy3113 I've been to Computer Reset four times. Nothing like this has been there for a long time at this point.
This plus Kid Pix? Fun. lolz
"The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy FART." lmfao
Doing the 640x480 mod makes it more compatible with games and programs that require minimum 640x480. Sim City 2000 is one of them I think.
if you have a video card driving a second monitor at 640x480 or higher, its possible to start the game, resize it, and play it at 512x. I play it in that way on my SE/30 that way!
Mannnnn that takes me back! My middle school was full of these back in the day. Great find Clint. You are the nostalgia king!
I remember using a Macintosh Centris/Quadra 650 (Yes, it has an internal optical drive) that one of my aunts owned back in the day. Seeing any Macintosh from that era boot up without fail always brings out the child in me.
I have a Color Classic. I put the LC550 logic board in it to make it more usable and love it. That board uses the same port layout and the computer identifies itself as a Color Classic II which is cool.
great video and what a sexy computer. really into the mid-to-late 90s curvy look Apple was going for
6:45 After Dark games were such a crazy idea: remember that they could only use the modifier keys for input, since these did not terminate the screen saver. But press any other key, or accidentally move the mouse, and the screensaver (and your game) was gone.
I had no problem playing Lunatic Fringe module/game using the keyboard or even the Gravis game pad on the LC II.
Yes, I -wasted- spent many hours playing Lunatic Fringe ...
Yeah, I had a Quadra 650, quite a bit beyond this Mac, but I remember having no problems switching After Dark to some sort of game mode. I was also in my mid-20s at the time, so I would do things like read the directions... lol 😁 I'm pretty sure that was just you not knowing what you were doing, not a problem with the games.
Dang, I love (and loved back in the day) the hidden handle right on top of the case of these Macs. Sure, you sliced your fingers on the sharp corners but it was convenient and slick.
OMG yes! My school had a lab FULL of these! Along with another full of Apple 2Es
Oregon trail time!
Nice! First computer I ever used was an Apple IIe at school
@@LGRBlerbs I can just see a young Clint slowly typing farts into his apple II with a wide maniacal smile growing on his face
@@LGRBlerbs Nice! They were my second computer. My family had a Commodore 64 at home. I should pull that beast out of storage haha.
We had one of these at my grade school back in the 90s. Something about it's tall design always intrigued me.
I loved my 128K Mac. I got it when they first came out and championed its cause for many years.
from an Average Joe, no less! 😄
I have a '91 Macintosh Classic with the traditional black and white display (as well as a Classic II). This is the best look I've ever seen of the Color Classic! Thank you for this.
When I was in elementary school in the late 90's, I was the resident Mac nerd, I loved all the old Apple II's, LCs, etc. When my school got rid of everything to replace with the sawtooth G3s, they gave me A BUNCH of old pizza box LCs, LC575 all in ones, Apple IIgs, etc. Like 6 of each. I had my own little vintage mac lab set up in my room where'd I'd tinker with them, network them, tear them apart and put them back together, etc. Now I'm absolutely kicking myself for throwing them out in early-mid 2000s.
All the but the art teachers in my high school had a similar looking slightly newer Mac Colour Classic II sitting on their desks. Art class teachers had pizza box PPC Mac Perfomas. The AIO Macs were everywhere in education facilities here, but they were almost always larger 13-15" models.
Never would've guessed old beige Macs would be valuable when I got rid of mine back in ~2007.
I bought this machine brand new in 1993. The 10” screen is excellent and has the coolest design. I still love this one, of course it needs a big power boost.
Expensive in 93, being sold at the university for way too much money to students I remember. You could loan money there and pay back during 5 years(!).
I don't have as much nostalgia for the Color Classic as I do for some other classic Macs, but it does remind me of a time when I went to a children's museum, and they had a Color Classic with Kid Pix in the section intended specifically for preschoolers/Kindergarteners.
That After Dark collection is pretty good. I was a beta tester when I was a kid for the Windows versions and it was so much fun. The Star Trek add-on was excellent, I still have a poster for it.
Definitely not as clean/sexy of a case design as like the SE/30, but still a lovely piece of color Mac history. I owned one of the early Mac II (68020) that I upgraded as far as I could before jumping into a Power Computing clone back in that time period.
why is he not understanding that this i not the classic you need.
I was just in the middle of a retro Macintosh deep dive on TH-cam (my first computer was a Macintosh Performa 630CD) and it's crazy nice that LGR and the algorithm has blessed me so.
I remember a few years back I turned one of these into a TAKKY (PowerMac 6500 300MHz PowerPC 603e motherboard swap). Was the hardest mod I’ve ever done but in the end it could run MacOS 9.1, Doom II at full FPS, and quake at an OK frame rate (however if I used a 3D accelerator card it would run well but only on an external monitor). The modding scene for these computers is crazy and it’s all well documented in This Does Not Compute’s video.
You need to chime in on Mac84 as he does a lot of recapping
I grew up on a SE FDHD and then Mac II with almost *exactly* those peripherials, my aunt had a Color Classic. This, especially when you showed After Dark, is just the most wonderfully nostalgic thing i've seen in a while!
It's amazing how Apple made the decision to cripple the IIGS when it could have been the runaway leader over the Macintosh back in the late 1980s and ealry 19990s.
Yeah, the primary issue was that the IIGS, as brilliant of a piece of computer engineering as it was (due in no small part to Steve Wozniak Himself), was a rival of Steve Jobs' darling project -- the Macintosh, which itself was a nerfed version of Job's earlier "Lisa" system. Despite the fact that the IIGS's combination of newer, advanced hardware plus near-perfect backwards compatibility w/ older Apple ][ / Apple IIe software & peripherals made it a potential bridge to longtime Apple users who were willing to upgrade their systems as long as they didn't have to abandon their entire existing software library & throw out their investment in Apple ][ hardware accessories, Jobs was hellbent on launching his own in-company project to promote what he considered The Ideal Computer System
...which apparently had no native support for color video output nor an easy path for DIY hardware upgrades (in its original incarnation, the Macintosh required both a security-screw driver + a specialized tool to crack open the system case -- all just to open up the damn thing). Compared to the entire Apple ][ line which (except the //c which was designed to be highly compact) featured multiple hardware expansion board slots & easy access to the internals, the Macintosh was a huge step backwards.
@@zenkim6709 I was just thinking that someone should reintroduce Apple to screws. A Mac enthusiast at work was saying that replacing the failed hard drive in his iMac will involve prising through glue.
I remember seeing one of these in a store back in 1993. I was really tempted to buy it, as I found the color Sony Trinitron display to be quite beautiful and sharp (up until that point, I'd only used a LC with a B&W monitor).
Nice to see a vintage mac here!
Brilliant :) looks a little like weird eMacDog, WALL-E or Bender waiting for cigarette in his disk port :D
I used to install Performa motherboards into this model. It required a highly modified loom, plus modifying the monitor section to handle 640x480 video. Worked like a charm. Turned it into a real power machine. Well, in those days it was impressive. These days - not so much.
Content like this makes me love your channel. I just love it.
I love that you were so close to letting us know where you live before your brain said "NOPE". Thanks for yet another trip down memory lane. The design language of this Color Classic brings me back to my first Mac - a Performa 7200CD.
He's definitely mentioned it before. I seem to recall it was Winston Hills but I"m sure it's not because that's in Australia and Clint is in North Carolina.
I remember seeing a fleet of these at the computer lab at LSU back around 93-94’ when my friend Erik would take me there to hang out because his dad and mine were both teaching there.
He showed me all the games that these could play and he was pretty stoked about them.
As I had used BOTH the Color Classic and the 500 series as a retired Teacher, that 10 vs 14 inch screen was a huge thing back then! I had an LC-II at home with a LC-575 as my main computer, and a color classic as my backup until the District bought in Windows Computers. Miss those old Macs so much!
"that's a good sign, we've got ourselves a bong" said every college student.
i remember those from school. we had 90% classics, but a few color classics, and SE's and LC's. that was about it for us to use, teachers had other models in their classrooms though, even some still with the old apple IIc machines
13:16 I thought this was a retro computing channel!
Yeah, I remember the days I used to use the original Macintosh at high school. They let us play Prince of Persia after the lesson, so I got hooked on the game, which made me seek the SNES version later. Fun times!
One review I remember described the styling as “porcine”.
Cool video! That Mac is very similar to the one my school had around that time; NumberMaze and Oregon Trail and that mac paint program with explosions. Fun times. Cheers!
Really cool seeing one of these again, when I was working at a local computer shop an older man dropped of this machine and a bunch of software and accessories for it. I believe it even included a very early version of photoshop. Still kicking myself to this day for not keeping it
14:20 That particular “time zero” was apparently the birth date of one of the Apple engineers. It’s mentioned in an old Technote somewhere.
I was wondering, I think 12/31/1969 was the usual "time zero" for Macs. This had to do with "Unix Time (or Epoch)". Before writing a proper calendar program, B&K just made a second timer count from the beginning of the year (this was around mid-March of 1970, on a PDP-7, I think) At this moment it's Unix Epoch 1647460917. Many Apple programmers used Unix, that was the inspiration for A/UX, which was whittled down to Macintosh Programmer's Workshop, which was about $400 in the mid-90s. A lot of history in that glitch!!
No, the Mac time zero used to be 1st January 1904.
Okay, so my elementary school in the early 90s had Apple IIe's. Dozens of them. For the students. Teachers didn't have desk computers yet, so it was just the IIe's. Until fifth grade, when the school got one of _these._ Once a week a class would go to the library and the liberian would show us stuff on it. On the encyclopedia. It was cool. Students were not allowed to touch it.
But.
I, along with another girl in fifth grade were "junior librarians." Meaning we stayed after school to help put books away, and even excused from class for a little each day if the librarian had to leave. Anyway, _we_ were allowed to use the Mac and it was incredibly awesome.
The girl, who was actually a friend of mine, would look up Beatles clips on the encyclopedia and just watch.
In the time before TH-cam, that was a real treat.
It looks like a landscape photo squished into portrait aspect! Definitely an interesting model!
I had an SE running 7.5 OS, all the peripherals and software, locally, for $50.00 🖥
I loved this computer as a kid. In grade school it was awsome to use.
We used these in 1993/4 for the school yearbook and newspaper. Only time I ever used one.
I wish I had all those AfterDark modules! I remember getting exceedingly good at playing Lunatic Fringe on our old LC II.
(11:52) I have always been fascinated by boards that have a socket for some sort of chip. It always makes me wonder what it was for and what it could do with whatever was intended to get slotted in. Oh, the possibilities! The possibilities!🤪😉
It was for an 68881 FPU. Some Macs, like the LC and LCII, did not have a socket for a FPU, you had to use the PDS slot. Since there was only one PDS slot, this allowed you to have both the FPU and Ethernet at once.
@@straightpipediesel Wow. Thanks! 😀
@@CybershamanX geeze, I guess I'm old because I remember just about every board having a socket. Hardly any Mac owner actually got an FPU, it was stupid expensive. IBM PS/2s tried various proprietary sockets for chips and even RAM, and Compaq and other clones experimented as well. Very many of them stayed empty, sometimes the intended board never went into production. Manufacturers were still wondering if people would stubbornly hang onto the same computers for 20 years. Windows 3.1 and '95 showed people were willing to buy an entirely new PC, taking advantage of Moore's Law. I had the fascination, too, but it often turned to frustration, and now, still, vendors on ebay are charging extortionate prices for vintage upgrades.
Yep, the square socket accommodated a co-pro (IIRC though certain Macs needed a ROM upgrade, one reason why ROMs had a dedicated slot instead of discrete chips). Also the rectangular chip in a socket is the net boot (NetBIOS) chip - which allowed the Mac to operate like a dumb terminal and boot up over the network
I appreciate your channel. Very positive and it is cool seeing the retro technology from back in the golden age. I started on an 8086 running DOS 3.0... haha.
Iconic design. It was so different from the ordinary PCs... It was covered in this aura of being special and unique. Daaamn dude, that's a MAC. No, that's The MAC!!!
That's a cool little computer. Brings back many memories. Thanks for sharing!
Oh my god. My elementary school was full of these things. Probably my favorite compact Mac.
i saw one of these as a kid in the 90s in a display i believe at the entrance of a walmart, and lusted after it so hard. perfect kid-sized computer in the 90s
i love hypercard
Love the color classic. I always wanted one as a kid.
10:22 As I recall, the 68LC040 was a cheaper version of the 68040 without the built-in hardware floating-point capability.
You can replace the 68LC040 with a full-blown 68040 chip, but be careful to get a real one. There are a lot of 68LC040 chips relabeled as 68040s.
LC stood for Low Cost. There were buggy versions typically found in 68LC040-based Apple Macintosh computers. "Chips with mask set 2E23G (as used in the LC 475) have been confirmed to be faulty." from Wikipedia
@@vwestlife Macs typically had buggy revisions of the 68LC040. That's the motivation for re-labelling them, they aren't just lower-teir; They have a fault relating to pending writes being lost when the F-line exception is triggered. Also the microcode can't be updated, the only solution is to get an authentic 68040
You know, that Mac eject sound never ceases to please me.. Takes me back so it does..
I always wanted to get a Colour Classic and do a Mystic upgrade. The Japanese Mac mod scene was nuts in the late 90s/early 2000s, guys were packing G3 accelerator cards into these systems. So cool.
I LOVE IT! This reminds me of my childhood... (Actually the one I remember is the black & white screen ones)
its so on my list of macs to get one day is one of these, your so lucky to get one that works
Clint, you unlocked a memory of pushing those buttons on the front. I 100% don't remember where or when it happened, but it had to have been in elementary/middle school.
Omg!!! So much love for this computer. I would list after it as a kid.
This reminds me of a friend of the family who used to shut down his Apple machine by dropping the HDD icon onto the trashcan.
That shouldn't have worked. Are you sure he wasn't just "shutting off" the Hard Drive, (or was it a removable SCSI drive?) and letting it run 24/7?
@@squirlmy My dad questioned it, too. For whatever reason, the guy was able to shut it off completely by dragging "Mac HD" onto the trashcan icon. 🤷 He and my dad are long dead, so I can only repeat what they told me.
My father bought one of these back in the 90’s to do some writing on and from my experience it was an OK for that purpose but not a great Mac overall. The original Color Classic from 1992 was basically just a Mac Classic II (‘91-‘92) with a color screen and for around eight months you had a choice between the two similarly spaced Macs, one with color and one without. The Mac Color Classic II was release only eight months after the Color Classic I but only in Japan. It fixed some of the original Color Classic’s shortcoming by doubling the CPU speed, doubling the bus speed, and adding stereo sound (vs the mono sound it’s predecessor). Had it been released in North America it would have made for an OK color compact all-in-one Mac for the time period, cramped screen aside. Apparently the Mac Classic I & II were particularly popular Macs in Japan where many people live in cramped apartments and an all in-in-one Mac like this suited many of them better then the larger Mac tower & desktop computers with separate monitors. I’ve heard that a thriving third-party market developed for mods/upgrades of Color Classic I & II in Japan that keeped these Macs useful for longer then normal. I personally sort of like the design though I had issues with the specs/perforamnce on the original Color Classic I and it’s small 10” screen. The original Mac CC the sort of Mac that had it debuted a few years earlier would have been OK as budget/compact color Mac but by the time it actually came out, the Classic II platform it was built on was getting long on the the tooth.
Your first Mac was my first Mac. And my Mac was my first PC. I loved that thing to death. (Literally, because before a lightning strike made it a blue smoke generator, I couldn't even save a 1K file.) After that, I got a Gateway Windows machine with Windows ME. The 575 was what I learned all the PC basics on, it's what made me absolutely fall in love with anything PC. Hell, I still have my Myst journal from the big box Mac version I got when I was a kid. My 575 had the Performa badge on it, but it was essentially the same machine as yours.
Obviously the donator of this machine does not care about money because a very good condition working mac color classic sells for stupid amounts of money. LGR is one hell of a lucky person to have been donated this.
That teddy bear background is adorable and looks familiar somehow, even though I've never used a older Mac (other than my 2008 MacBook Pro LOL)
Back when this was new was right when I was graduating from high school, but in computer lab the machine I would always try to grab was the LC II.
That Mac is great, but I can’t take my eyes off the Voodoo 5 6000 box in the background!! Please do a video on that sometime. So much nostalgia for 3dfx.
I havent seen your videos recently, but i like the new shelving! I outghta start spring cleaning before, well, any time now. Good video