It's not just you - not having passive regen sucks. That's one of the reasons I was hesistant about using the gloves before and now they are so much weaker. :/
The 8% Attack speed probably comes from Grace, since u have more Aura effect on it from the grasing mail implicit. So it seems, the necro ascendancy takes the Influenced Aura implicit as multiplicative with other aura effect, not additive (6 x 1.3 = ~ 8). But Maybe thats just a PoB bug and not a ingame thing.
@Bigdaddy hello, I landed on this build while looking for something that can facetank almost all the uber bosses/content in the game. This build seems like it can. My question is can I achieve this build with a mageblood and about 700 DIVs or should i not even try? If no, what would you say i need minimum to even try? I am bit overwhelmed by what items are Nice to have versus mandatory in your build. I would hate to try to start building this and then hit a wall where build doesnt function.
would love to build an armour stacker, but there is not a single good non-bow attack skill out there for screenclear. best options are molten/lightning strike and they are both horrible
Always wanted to try an armour stacker for the first time! Just never had the currency since everything gets so expensive. Is it still possible to get decent tank/damage without voices and original sin? Little out of my budget currently!
Correct me if I'm wrong, trying to help ❤ On skill tree 1 with unnatural instinct, could you not path down the proj rather than resistance to get those. Would solve the forementioned ele Res? I assume I've missed something so pointer to why if not also be nice! 😊
Can you build an initial pob? like" this is the minimal to start farming for upgrades" but with the build functional and working? Because I don't know how to get so much money for these expensive items
Is there mf variant with hh that tanky enough to do 6k+ wisps with investment less than 200div? I already played penance brand mf so im getting bored from it, but the loot pinata is real when i swapped my chest with greed's embrace but easily died in the affliction forest. While the chieftain fulcrum build is tanky but i dont want to sacrifice my ehp for more quant and rarity.
Hi. thanks for ur Videos / Spreadsheet. Helped a lot. I was wondering, where u usually get the base Grasping mail? do you buy them with Global Def. and Cold overcapp? There are actually only a handfull on the market and they are more expensive then Mageblood. Or is there another way to get them reliably?
I buy my bases from trade. You can get them from handing in breach rings or buying un ID ones on trade. But the mods are very rare so in most cases your better off buying the base or mirroring one.
Add 4 more mirrors since 3 voices are only 6 mirrors and millitanth faith is mirror, helmet also+fee, chest myb also mirror+fee it is build worth 12+ mirrors at this moment all coz of mf-ing wildwood shit.
This league burst damage seems really funny. I've had more instances than I want to count where I feel invincible .. still feel invincible .. why did I just die?? Maybe it's because I'm used to ranged builds and I'm playing melee for the first time since 3.13, I'm not good at currency generation, or more accurately just not good at the game but something really feels off this league. Last league everything came together but this league something just isn't there.
Why dont you use unbreakable charms instead of transcendence. With the amount of armor you have i assume it would be as much tanky and would free up item and affix slots.
It's not as tanky vs hits. Maybe once you get like 8mill armour or so it can start to compete with Transcendence. Also, 2 of the builds in this guide use them.
Global defense is very nice for ES. Will help you get tankier basically but you can just buy a single overcap and the build will function. Osin is a huge dmg increase and consistent dmg. So if you have the money I'd get one for sure. You can still get very high dmg without it though.
I got the Scion up and running around 20-25 divine. Around 3k ES, 90 all res, 350k Armor. Pretty solid, but still randomly gets one shot by some bosses, died trying to do Shaper because of the amount of lightning damage the beam was just 1 tapping me. At this point each investment is quite a lot and I feel almost like I should have another build to farm the currency to feed this build.. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
This version uses a grasping mail instead of doryanys prototype so lightning degen is not that big of a problem. It is quite expensive to make however.
That's the problem I'm seeing too. I blame my poor game skill for most of it though -- I just wish this archtype had a gentler ramp as it seems like you need a butt-ton of investment before things start feeling "really nice". Last league there were soooo many ways to get serious power early that a lot of builds that would normally cost hundreds of divines were actually league start viable and that is partially the trap I fell into. Gotta admit BigDaddy did say this isn't a build for those that don't know what they're doing :)
The only problem i have and its the biggest for this build, for the life of me i dont understand why Grace Aura is mana free in your build but in mine costs over 400 and i cant activate it
The gem nerfs really hurt but the charms open up so many new ways to play that I wouldn't say it's weaker. It may be in the strongest it's ever been actually. (Defense wise)
Not even really talking about gem nerfs, but Tattoos. Tattoos allowed to allocate any Keystone so easy Precise Technique or other powerful options. You could turn all strength passives into % armour / % fire resistance. Max fire tesistance was much easy to come by. etc. etc.@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr
this build is too much expensive even for the medium budget and its lvl 100 so for a level 95 cant do this build, if yes whats nodes to remove since every node matter
Ngl its kind of dumb builds like this exist while other level 31 juiced gems hardly do work on T14 mid juiced yellow mobs when all your skill points are directly into dps for that gem.. i’m being vague deliberately to make a point..
mehh, these so called "builds" are so overpowered. Magebloods, double corrupted six linked armours, voices...blah blah blahhhh.... When do you guys realize almost 90% of players collect 10-20 div max at per league?
This league actually collect quite a bit more divines than that but your point still stands because those high end items cost more divines cause of the increase to drop rate from league mechanic. But if you comment or watch video you're engaging so reality is it doesn't matter if they do or don't understand they got the clicks. Edit: sometimes it's still fun to see what can be done even if you may never get there yourself.
You are so right, all these entitled content creators making these videos should really focus on what we poors need and not what they want to create or care about. People who make 25+ divines a league are clearly god gamers and don’t need guides or content focused at them because they clearly have mastered the game and know all there is to know. I’m really glad you spoke up about this under vocalized issue………..😂
I too think they should focus on making useful content, but this is a ggg problem. They have made the game far too unwelcoming for the regular player. Every cool.and strong build is completely out of reach, including stuff that should be accessible, like everyone should be able to easily make a build that can safely farm fully juiced t16 maps, but what actually happens is that most players grind like crazy and can never reach a point with satisfaying tankiness and dps. I'm hoping poe2 will be easier, mostly because I'm only playing poe right now because all the other options cost money, and I don't have any.
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It's not just you - not having passive regen sucks. That's one of the reasons I was hesistant about using the gloves before and now they are so much weaker. :/
The 8% Attack speed probably comes from Grace, since u have more Aura effect on it from the grasing mail implicit. So it seems, the necro ascendancy takes the Influenced Aura implicit as multiplicative with other aura effect, not additive (6 x 1.3 = ~ 8). But Maybe thats just a PoB bug and not a ingame thing.
I think it is nultiplicative for speed from long time ago. you should try yourself. I think it works
@Bigdaddy hello, I landed on this build while looking for something that can facetank almost all the uber bosses/content in the game. This build seems like it can. My question is can I achieve this build with a mageblood and about 700 DIVs or should i not even try? If no, what would you say i need minimum to even try? I am bit overwhelmed by what items are Nice to have versus mandatory in your build. I would hate to try to start building this and then hit a wall where build doesnt function.
I had the same 100% phys to ele converted damage taken. In my experience bleeds are not infflicted on me. Did you test it?
What farming strats are best geared towards utilizing this build aside from simulacrum?
would love to build an armour stacker, but there is not a single good non-bow attack skill out there for screenclear. best options are molten/lightning strike and they are both horrible
Been looking at the PoB for ages now, where does the ES leech come from? Or is pob lying and there is none? Scion version
It's from the es on hit watchers eye.
@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr ah OK, thought the reference to max leech in pob implied there was actual es leech. Subbed thanks for the guide!
whats addon on 8:17?
How do I enable more than 1 introspection in POB? cant for the life of me figure it out...
Man this build looks awesome, I think that's going to be my goal for next league
Thanks for all the resources you put up, you're awesome !
Always wanted to try an armour stacker for the first time! Just never had the currency since everything gets so expensive.
Is it still possible to get decent tank/damage without voices and original sin? Little out of my budget currently!
Does the chieftain build provide more dps compared to all scion variants?
Correct me if I'm wrong, trying to help ❤
On skill tree 1 with unnatural instinct, could you not path down the proj rather than resistance to get those. Would solve the forementioned ele Res?
I assume I've missed something so pointer to why if not also be nice! 😊
You right, I missed that. Thanks
Hi, can you say roughly how much a build costs so that you can play well with it? I have around 100 div and a mageblood ( Transcedence build)
Can you build an initial pob? like" this is the minimal to start farming for upgrades" but with the build functional and working?
Because I don't know how to get so much money for these expensive items
Hi thanx for the video. Can i ask how much cost of build without mblood
this build works budget 200 div?
3 x 1 passive voices are kinda xdd cause theyre 1.5 mirrors each..... is there a pob for before voices?
I'm still using Doryani's. With the current prices for the upgrades , I don't think ill be transcending anytime soon
What did you use in the lveveling In the campaign ؟
Hollow Palm
Is there mf variant with hh that tanky enough to do 6k+ wisps with investment less than 200div? I already played penance brand mf so im getting bored from it, but the loot pinata is real when i swapped my chest with greed's embrace but easily died in the affliction forest. While the chieftain fulcrum build is tanky but i dont want to sacrifice my ehp for more quant and rarity.
I have the version I used for easy 12k+ t16 abyss deli in my compendium but it's a lot more than 200d.
@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr do u have the pob?
Is it worth it to get a +4 helmet with 15% inc aura effect synth? Or is the defense loss too much?
For Transcendence you cannot, but for the other 2 builds yes, that's definitely worth getting
Hi. thanks for ur Videos / Spreadsheet. Helped a lot. I was wondering, where u usually get the base Grasping mail? do you buy them with Global Def. and Cold overcapp? There are actually only a handfull on the market and they are more expensive then Mageblood. Or is there another way to get them reliably?
I buy my bases from trade. You can get them from handing in breach rings or buying un ID ones on trade. But the mods are very rare so in most cases your better off buying the base or mirroring one.
Hi guys thx for Work. Thierry build can work with transfigure gem lightning strike of arcing???
Yeap, any attack skill that can be used with a sword works! You will need to still use smite for the dmg huff though.
@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr thx for your return. I Will test this one. Gl for your league and thx for your time. Im following your Google doc its amazing
When i have 5-6 mirrors extra i will try this build
Add 4 more mirrors since 3 voices are only 6 mirrors and millitanth faith is mirror, helmet also+fee, chest myb also mirror+fee it is build worth 12+ mirrors at this moment all coz of mf-ing wildwood shit.
This league burst damage seems really funny. I've had more instances than I want to count where I feel invincible .. still feel invincible .. why did I just die?? Maybe it's because I'm used to ranged builds and I'm playing melee for the first time since 3.13, I'm not good at currency generation, or more accurately just not good at the game but something really feels off this league. Last league everything came together but this league something just isn't there.
I'm putting together the medium budget variant with mb. It's kinda exciting that there are always upgrades available.
Medium budget with mage blood? Lmao what
@@charlespanache7047 welcome to armour stacker XD
Why dont you use unbreakable charms instead of transcendence. With the amount of armor you have i assume it would be as much tanky and would free up item and affix slots.
It's not as tanky vs hits. Maybe once you get like 8mill armour or so it can start to compete with Transcendence. Also, 2 of the builds in this guide use them.
Played Lightning Strike Aegis version in Crucible I think it's time to take it for another spin.
is this build tanky enough for tormented feared in valdo boxes?
I haven't tried but it should be able to tank it es recovery is questionable though.
1 degen and you're dead
I have 2500 div and mage blood , can I play whis this budget ?
Yea for sure!
@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr is origin sin important and grasping mail whisout global def can play? Or mirrored 2 pref bodi armour ?
Global defense is very nice for ES. Will help you get tankier basically but you can just buy a single overcap and the build will function. Osin is a huge dmg increase and consistent dmg. So if you have the money I'd get one for sure. You can still get very high dmg without it though.
Idc what the build is. If it has a Dual Wield varient i want to run it.
Hello thanks for this awesome guide. Can I build aegis version with around 7 divines ? Aegis is cheap this league.
No
Nice build!
I got the Scion up and running around 20-25 divine. Around 3k ES, 90 all res, 350k Armor. Pretty solid, but still randomly gets one shot by some bosses, died trying to do Shaper because of the amount of lightning damage the beam was just 1 tapping me. At this point each investment is quite a lot and I feel almost like I should have another build to farm the currency to feed this build.. Maybe I am doing something wrong.
This version uses a grasping mail instead of doryanys prototype so lightning degen is not that big of a problem. It is quite expensive to make however.
That's the problem I'm seeing too. I blame my poor game skill for most of it though -- I just wish this archtype had a gentler ramp as it seems like you need a butt-ton of investment before things start feeling "really nice". Last league there were soooo many ways to get serious power early that a lot of builds that would normally cost hundreds of divines were actually league start viable and that is partially the trap I fell into. Gotta admit BigDaddy did say this isn't a build for those that don't know what they're doing :)
Many cheaper builds that aren't as niche and cost less.
The only problem i have and its the biggest for this build, for the life of me i dont understand why Grace Aura is mana free in your build but in mine costs over 400 and i cant activate it
you need inspiration linked, have 25% reduced mana cost craft on flask + reduced mana cost and one -mana cost ring.
Needs 99% reduced mana cost total, check mana cost of grace in calcs page in pob to see all sources of this stat
are you getting all of this gear from just farming simulacrum?
That and crafting stuff
I havent watched the whole video, but is this attainable without MB? I'll watch it later at home. Thanks.
Mb isnt even that expensive compared with the rest of the gear :D
@@Monkkae, yeah i just watched the whole video a while ago and saw it too =(
Mageblood this league will be the cheapest of history due to t17 farming with some crazy build.
man you gear look insane ho dow you make mirror and mirro and mirror of gear everyday..
Armour Stacking is much weaker this League, right? It peaked in Tota with tattoos?
The gem nerfs really hurt but the charms open up so many new ways to play that I wouldn't say it's weaker. It may be in the strongest it's ever been actually. (Defense wise)
Not even really talking about gem nerfs, but Tattoos. Tattoos allowed to allocate any Keystone so easy Precise Technique or other powerful options. You could turn all strength passives into % armour / % fire resistance. Max fire tesistance was much easy to come by. etc. etc.@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr
whats the budget?
about three fiddy, but mirrors
Yes!
If you're asking then you don't have enough
Dude, what did you league start to afford such endeavors?
is this doable in stand league as i have much more stuff their and have a lv91 scion that i made years ago so her tree has been fully reset also
Yeap, there's some real crazy items you can mirror in standard too
@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr will see what i have next time i play her
looks fun
How do u find the crazy stuff to mirror@@Bigdaddytehpwnerereerr
this build is too much expensive even for the medium budget and its lvl 100 so for a level 95 cant do this build, if yes whats nodes to remove since every node matter
x8 Orbs of Augmentation
It's a very interesting build for me, but I'm afraid I just won't be able to build it correctly unfortunately :)
Nice build. Body armour 1 mirror... Ring 0.6 mirror. What else???
> Mageblood
Into the trash it goes!
Original Sin is 0.6 mirror :/
how does anyone have enough money for this holy shit
It seems armour stackers took quite a nerf.
Yea lots of things are nerfed :(
Glove nerf, ashes nerf, tattoo removed, this build is so much weaker. Not worth it now. I only play it in standard with my 25k fire res 😄
max degen: 100/s
First :P
Ngl its kind of dumb builds like this exist while other level 31 juiced gems hardly do work on T14 mid juiced yellow mobs when all your skill points are directly into dps for that gem.. i’m being vague deliberately to make a point..
Doesn't look that strong
honestly at this point just uninstall. if you have a single shred of a brain cell left, uninstall.
Scion bad
mehh, these so called "builds" are so overpowered. Magebloods, double corrupted six linked armours, voices...blah blah blahhhh.... When do you guys realize almost 90% of players collect 10-20 div max at per league?
This league actually collect quite a bit more divines than that but your point still stands because those high end items cost more divines cause of the increase to drop rate from league mechanic. But if you comment or watch video you're engaging so reality is it doesn't matter if they do or don't understand they got the clicks.
Edit: sometimes it's still fun to see what can be done even if you may never get there yourself.
The build is an endgame one ofc it's a couple mirrors; Armour stacking isn't exactly a league starter yk?
You are so right, all these entitled content creators making these videos should really focus on what we poors need and not what they want to create or care about. People who make 25+ divines a league are clearly god gamers and don’t need guides or content focused at them because they clearly have mastered the game and know all there is to know. I’m really glad you spoke up about this under vocalized issue………..😂
I too think they should focus on making useful content, but this is a ggg problem. They have made the game far too unwelcoming for the regular player. Every cool.and strong build is completely out of reach, including stuff that should be accessible, like everyone should be able to easily make a build that can safely farm fully juiced t16 maps, but what actually happens is that most players grind like crazy and can never reach a point with satisfaying tankiness and dps. I'm hoping poe2 will be easier, mostly because I'm only playing poe right now because all the other options cost money, and I don't have any.
Also Poe: any DD casting mob can KO Ur build in valdo map