The sad part is that many people still don't know that Dev is an absolute weasel, thinking that he just had one bad take and gets treated unfairly. Thinking that all of this is just "TH-cam Drama" and taking him on his word that all of the complains about him just come from "dedicated Dev haters". He weasel'd his way into Side Scrollers the same way he got into EFAP, hiding behing their credibility and perceived "goodness" of Dev. I'd wish they would look into him like they look into a Boogie or Hassan, instead of just blindly believing him. I dream of a future where everyone realizes how malicious and odious Dev really is. Like the arc Vee is going through right now.
Vee has been trashing Dev for at least a year now, he just doesn't let that stop him from being his friend I don't know their relationship so I won't judge Vee on that, but it is interesting how Vee can absolutely thrash him for his idiotic takes and all his viewers can openly despise him to the point many tell Vee outright that be should stop associating with him, but Dev doesn't really seem to mind any of that too much(unless the dynamic has changed since the last time I watched an anti-Dev Vee vid) Maybe Dev is just a weird masochist or something lmfao
When you're winning, they will beg for your mercy, because that's what you believe in. When they're winning, they will crush you without mercy, because that's what they believe in.
Spicy Foxu seems to have learned The Art Of War very well. Because despite "The Fox Tism," Kirsche literally never interrupts her enemies when they make mistakes. Well done, Fox Woman. Well done. You confirm that having you as an oshi was a very good decision to make.
"How do these people exist?" These people always existed. They were doing this for years quietly in a pre-internet era where these types of lies could work. The game has changed. The people are the same.
Hot take; I blame Tumblr. Sure the internet has advanced so far that people talk more and often unchecked, but it gave young people an echo chamber to gaslight themselves and things evolved very very quickly. I'm just really Really glad 'Other-kin' never caught on. There's no way it can be taken seriously.
Jeez, I didn't know Dev got this dumb. He claimed she lied about him then started making fun of her in awful ways verbally. Then to my understanding, they sorted this out when they both appeared on Side Scrollers. It got me thinking that he didn't really hate Kirsche. Just hope no harm comes to her & Dev gets the mental/PSYCHOlogical therapy he needs.
@@elgatochurro It's a low point for him for sure and what he said was terrible but that doesn't mean if he hates you then you have morals. Destiny dislikes Vaush and Hasan and I doubt you like them either. I think he shouldn't have said that statement but criticize the double standards Republicans (the party and important figures) apply to themselves. They cancel and doxx people, say inflammatory statements like Trump saying "3rd world countries are shithole countries" ,feed people misinformation for example Republicans said Khelif is a trans woman when she is from Algeria and they don't recognize trans people.
SFO uses bad faith positions, but refrains from the other pitfalls. Then he says you're allowed to call him anything but bad faith. This way, none of your criticisms will stick because you can only criticize him for the stuff he's not doing. Literally bad faith attempt to stop criticism.
Ironically, they don't see people like Kirshe as "people" but as an enemy to be defeated in totality. That's how they can justify these awful acts in their minds.
That’s why many try to not bring in politics or social topics. Even the most level headed opinion like not thinking the Ukraine war is black and white will get you dogpiled. But, you also shouldn’t be afraid to voice opinions against the norm. Thats why I hope many Vtubers stay independent. Once they get bigger they sell out or censor themselves to the point where they aren’t the same anymore.
@@chriswihulu “bait” almost anytime someone says “erm well it isn’t black and white and actually Ukraine is bad too”, they are actually just trying to sit on the fence and justify the Russian government’s actions
@@Cm0N. You literally read a call for nuance and open debate, into direct support for only one side. You have to have close to zero reading comprehension, in order to read it as such and without even trying to make an actual argument for this, just that "almost anytime some says X, they actually mean Y". How else am I supposed to read a statement such as that, when you boil it down to a single sentence and nothing else?
I don't know what's more hilarious. The fact that Dev dug another 6ft down (I lost count how far he dug down over the long years) or the fact that he lost this badly to a vtuber.
think vee is the primary reason i watch a few vtubers as well, not that i watched any after vee talked about them, but when a lawtuber started talking about VTubers...i was like hey Vee used to talk about this. wonder what this is all about, then he had Kirsche and i laughed me ass off
I will allays remember that episode of "Side Scrollers" where that dude posted that Superchat! I remember hearing it and thinking "That doesn't sound like our fox woman at all! That's so weird" and it's wierd because comment like that pop up a lot in discussions of Pippa and even this one where someone was trying to say V-Tubing is conservative now" where some rando will jump in and be all "Oh their nazi followers attacked and doxxed me based on my identity" and never have proof of any kind. I've had a cancel mob come after me once (Allright fine SEVERAL times) and I'm not even famous yet!
debating with someone whose entire lifes purpose is to take everything you say wildly out of context is like willingly walking blindfolded into a firing squad.
Eh, depends. His "I want politics out of my entertainment" stuff from half a decade back was reasonably sensible. Not exactly an angle one should feel stupid over agreeing with.
25:59 Very sad, but true. Literally happened with the Actman leaking DMs from Mauler with the HeelvsBabyface Actman Controversy on Starfield. Trust and Friendship broken, reputations tarnished, enemies made, and the Internet is more toxic.
Hi. Actual Russian man here(no voice changer though. yet) just wanted to say on "dead people videos" part: The echo chamber in these communities is far heavier than seen from outside, so people spamming those videos, they really think (zealously believe) that these videos only come from side A, and only contain side B. Which leads to these packs containing videos from BOTH sides. Skimming first few videos for insignias and pointing out missidentified ones always does A LOT of damage in such cases. And by "a lot" i mean they never return. It doesn't take political knowledge to tell blue band from red one. try it. Just don't do it on youtube - they have banhammer here, fyi. love what you do btw.
got an up close and personal experience of how you cannot trust the official reports from anyone. was involved in what could have been a very serious international event about 18 years ago in poland involving US military but witnessed by polish russian and US media. literally all of them lied about what happened in one way or another. polish media, who wanted US military there, completly downplayed the incident. Russian media compeltly overplayed the incident, and US media more or less said what happened but completly lied about why it happened. said it was an accident by a very low ranking member. true, but happened because a very high ranking government official convinced a high ranking officer to completly break protical and international agreements because he thought it would look good for the papers.
@@DICEBOY22 : Maybe put Kirsche as a fill-in on the ballot this year? Way things are going, I'm more than willing to campaign for "Anime Fox Woman for President 2024", lol.
Dudes feels intimidated by a new trend thats gonna stay so he is using propaganda tactics to make sure he keeps his viewers and making sure he still relevent in the worst way possible or dude has major internet brain rot but who knows
@@waterking74I notice a lot of him clinging desperately to relevance, notice how hard he tried to latch himself onto sidescrollers after getting kicked out by the Archcast audience?
@@AzeharaCh I mean its not the first time he got into hot water with his take on a youtuber. The whole pikamee/hogwarts drama comes to mind. And lately he has been stepping into drama left and right too because he just cant stand being proven wrong.
I love this foxy lady so much especially after sending Vee the 300 pages essay about the *Sub-Average Height Chubby Canadian* and his shenanigans =)) "300 PAGES CHAT!" - Romanian TVee 2024 To Kirsche: Never change woman🍷😎
22:09 Literally happened with the Ava Kris Tyson situation. Brought back the long gone Shadman, and instead of the subject topic being about Ava Kris Tyson, the attention was instead turned to Shadman and those who interacted with him YEARS AGO like Akidearest. 😑🤦♂️
It's so crazy that a bunch of people standing in a building doesn't bring political gains in this modern day and age. Who would have thought, in a time of instant communication, that taking over a single hall, wouldn't accomplish anything on a national level. [/drippingwithsarcasm]
Its all political showmanship. They've had that January 6th committee who meets up every blue moon, usually during a long period of bad press, where all they do is sit on their bums and say "insurrection" like they're a pokemon. They don't name the supposedly "dead cops" the media kept hammering about, they don't bring up photos of people acting violent and hurting others, they just talk in circles until the end of their work day when they walk out of the building and collect a fat check for, again, sitting on their bums all day.
Kirsche, if you see this, thanks for confirming what I've been told by *DOZENS* of right wingers and libertarian right wingers have said about Dev for *YEARS* about him housing agents that facilitated and even cofacilitated gay ops. No wonder the lib-right circles I used to be involved in called him a Fed or glowie.
23:41 "Pippa is someone that I can absolutely trust, beyond the shadow of a doubt" Kirsche, July 26 2024 On December 1st 2024 Pippa proved her right when Short Fat Otaku entered her chat. Said things I'm not sure I can quote here without youtube getting angry. Based Pippa is a true friend to Kirsche.
Man i hate people like the the first dm, can't do much besides hate and parrot talking points and even with the points they are lacking. Really wish they would just chill out and try to realize that they are doing damage and are doing the exact opposite to what they should if they wanted to help. smh
I mostly agree with vee's opinions on the matter of dev. Until a few weeks ago, i thought dev was a bit of an ass, and a bit too lenient when it comes to bad people and government, him being a fence sitter and all, but thought he was generally honest. Guess i was wrong lmao. Also not releasing the trucker video was always a bit of a red flag, and i had a feeling if he did he would play defense for the government.
I have a very small channel. Only about 314 subs and I'm being harassed by a larger channel. The Content Creator is accusing me of reporting her to Animal Control because she has 20 cats and an injured kitten. I didn't do anything, but had to take my channel down, because they keep harassing me. TH-camrs are the worse.
Taking public action against someone it would be smarter to avoid outright. The victim of gay ops is often an idiot who damages everyone associated with them, including their detractors, while the one doing the gay ops is often trying to troll yet finds that their target is too stupid or chaotic to react in a way that doesn’t somehow screw things up for everyone.
Something I’ve always noticed about destiny particularly is just how hopelessly bad he is at scientific analysis. That, and with just how brain dead some of the stuff he’s supported is I genuinely wonder if he can’t properly put together ideas of where things come from or originate in his mind. One of the most bizarre moments I’ve ever seen from a person online was when he said he just didn’t know how he would tell if affirmative action was working or not. How do you even make that mistake? Man has some certified moments sometimes and I can not understand why
In regards to falseyed, I doubt that he’d be inclined to report on sfo. He has spotty track record in terms of news reporting and a proven bias towards certain individuals and organizations.
People always want False to report on things because when it comes to "news" he is the biggest one but often he doesnt tend to cover drama like this and I agree with you, he does have bias towards certain individuals.
@@MisterGreis He has displayed a blatant bias for Vshojou and former Nijisanji talents which has been noted on how he reported on Nux vs Vshojou and anything Dokibird.
Just putting a TH-cam comment out there reminding people that ShortFatOtaku had done a stream with Flamenco and was a person Dev supported in the community. Even after Flam got found out to be a loser he is, Dev still has him as a moderator, I haven't checked if Flam still is a mod in Dev's chats on YT or Twitch but I can at least confirm he was up to early 2024 as that's the last time I could assume I saw him in one of the chats. Truth be told I started tuning out of Dev's streams because he's become very combinative with his audience and that just exposed how argumentative he is to the point of derailing streams or delaying the intro to a stream, just talking ethics like he's a modern-day Socrates whose always correct and nobody else is especially if it doesn't adhere to his world view.
I don't think giving the benefit of the doubt is a "woman brain" thing. I think it's just something good people tend to do. Or maybe I have some woman brain in me, lol.
Community notes existing reminds me that there is atleast a bit of good out there. Good job, Elon. Don't get used to it. Documenting 2 years of harrassment would make you accustomed to it. Loses the flavor a bit, but that is wild.
@@almalone3282 its why he will never make the trucker vid he hates they stood up to his beloved overlords and also it would be seen as supporting them and his own gov would not like that
9:20 They literally made Kirsche suffer for 2 Years. Getting compensation and milking the hell out of them is a good idea. Taking the moral high ground and being "merciful" towards scummy people who wouldn't and haven't shown you the same courtesy isn't really a good idea.
Thats the largest amount of messages for someone who supposedly wants to be left alone. And that attitude? Yeah no, thats not someone trustworthy even slightly, they act like they're doing a massive favor for wanting to bury the hatchet, while also threatening legal action and other stuff when the people who threaten lawyers out of the blue never would do it.
Actually Vtubers and politics go well together alot. Vtubers play a character the same as politicians. Vtubers seem to be the more honest of the 2.99% of politicians work til be reelected . At least Vtubers are honest about wanting more followers. I believe the beliefs you say you hold, not so much any government or media.
I personally welcome all conservative content creators, and knowing that there's more conservative VTubers on here now, makes me feel more confident about coming back to this platform. Automatically Subbing. 👍
Never debate anyone with bad faith. Research whoever you consider having on your stream.
'But i am not bad faith" - SFO
@@AzeharaCh "And if you disagree, you're banned."
Oh no don't say that. Dev will ban you and say he is standing up for himself.
@@DragonFruitXVI so true cant hurt is Canadian feelings
You know how to deal with Dev when you’re dealing with Breadtubers. Dev is just a lite version of these people
I swear this is the 2nd time ive seen this "I UsEd tO bE a REpUbLiCaN" type of post that is completely unhinged.
"Never argue with an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" also applies for people who argue in bad faith like dev
@@Kurai_69420 LOL you said "idiot" and "experience" in the same sentence. (- meaning an "experienced idiot" XD)
The sad part is that many people still don't know that Dev is an absolute weasel, thinking that he just had one bad take and gets treated unfairly. Thinking that all of this is just "TH-cam Drama" and taking him on his word that all of the complains about him just come from "dedicated Dev haters".
He weasel'd his way into Side Scrollers the same way he got into EFAP, hiding behing their credibility and perceived "goodness" of Dev. I'd wish they would look into him like they look into a Boogie or Hassan, instead of just blindly believing him.
I dream of a future where everyone realizes how malicious and odious Dev really is. Like the arc Vee is going through right now.
Vee has been trashing Dev for at least a year now, he just doesn't let that stop him from being his friend
I don't know their relationship so I won't judge Vee on that, but it is interesting how Vee can absolutely thrash him for his idiotic takes and all his viewers can openly despise him to the point many tell Vee outright that be should stop associating with him, but Dev doesn't really seem to mind any of that too much(unless the dynamic has changed since the last time I watched an anti-Dev Vee vid)
Maybe Dev is just a weird masochist or something lmfao
EFAP is ran by grifters though, so they fit well with each other.
@@cookiebaker2660 what's the grift? Do they actually like dogshit film?
😂 y would they send money to an organization called EFAP?!? Sounds like a troll name ffs.@@cookiebaker2660
@@cookiebaker2660 Uh... evidence of this?
VTubers are new to these problems. My first boss told me "Never send an email or a text that you wouldn't want to read out in an open courtroom."
When you're winning, they will beg for your mercy, because that's what you believe in.
When they're winning, they will crush you without mercy, because that's what they believe in.
Hey Dev I know you're here lurking
Fellow Nikke enjoyer pfp, I see you bro.
We love Kirsche here.
Spicy Foxu seems to have learned The Art Of War very well.
Because despite "The Fox Tism," Kirsche literally never interrupts her enemies when they make mistakes.
Well done, Fox Woman. Well done. You confirm that having you as an oshi was a very good decision to make.
"How do these people exist?"
These people always existed. They were doing this for years quietly in a pre-internet era where these types of lies could work. The game has changed. The people are the same.
All that changes are the faces, the names and the trends.
Highschool never ends
@@Drocksas Damn, unfortunately you're correct
@@SigmaMan1448 you can thank Bowling for Soup for that one!
Hot take; I blame Tumblr. Sure the internet has advanced so far that people talk more and often unchecked, but it gave young people an echo chamber to gaslight themselves and things evolved very very quickly. I'm just really Really glad 'Other-kin' never caught on. There's no way it can be taken seriously.
"Thankfully i used to be a Republican"
Press X for doubt!
He was probably a neocon, but that crowd might as well be leftists anyway.
Jeez, I didn't know Dev got this dumb. He claimed she lied about him then started making fun of her in awful ways verbally. Then to my understanding, they sorted this out when they both appeared on Side Scrollers. It got me thinking that he didn't really hate Kirsche. Just hope no harm comes to her & Dev gets the mental/PSYCHOlogical therapy he needs.
SFO was always this bad. he's just breadtupe lite. and always has been that.
Dev is bad faith.
He loves to say he isnt.
@@AzeharaCh I think it's the thing that upsets him the most.
"yep, you're banned"
"i dont believe anything without sources."
Based and source pilled
Tbh if destiny hates you, you must be someone with morals
Not really.
Have you seen his content?
@@danieloyeleye3257 I seen him say there's nothing wrong with a father sleeping with his daughter and his he encouraged his friend to self delete.
@@elgatochurro It's a low point for him for sure and what he said was terrible but that doesn't mean if he hates you then you have morals.
Destiny dislikes Vaush and Hasan and I doubt you like them either.
I think he shouldn't have said that statement but criticize the double standards Republicans (the party and important figures) apply to themselves. They cancel and doxx people, say inflammatory statements like Trump saying "3rd world countries are shithole countries" ,feed people misinformation for example Republicans said Khelif is a trans woman when she is from Algeria and they don't recognize trans people.
@@elgatochurro You forgot where he thinks 10 year olds are hot and the age of consent should be lowered.
@@MisterGreis didn't hear that
Hi Dev I know you or your mods are lurking here
If he or they are
Dev is a ho
hello dev, i know you're watching
That DM towards Kirche definitely sounds like a Fed post. Unless someone is legitimately that brain dead...
is there a difference?
Man. Simpler answer is it was a TDS left. They're legitimately like that.
People are crediting too much to feds. People in general really are that stupid.
@@DAFORCEFilms 100% this
Some people are like that.
SFO uses bad faith positions, but refrains from the other pitfalls.
Then he says you're allowed to call him anything but bad faith.
This way, none of your criticisms will stick because you can only criticize him for the stuff he's not doing.
Literally bad faith attempt to stop criticism.
"I have longer receipts than CVS". Hahaha. I like that.
"send videos of russians died" what are the chance that they confused her with smugalana
Bruh. Sending videos of people getting added to an obituary to try and "win" an argument is next-level deranged. And these are the "love wins" people?
Ironically, they don't see people like Kirshe as "people" but as an enemy to be defeated in totality. That's how they can justify these awful acts in their minds.
Deranged yes but let's be honest, it's definitely creative.
@papascronch no its not,when someone draws the ire of the twitter freaks your guaranteed to get death threats,doxxed,and gore
Dev is a fence sitter and he's also pro-jab.
Why am I finding you in all the comment feeds.
*Coughs* but your absolutely correct.
He needs to do at least say something about all this shit.
he's a leftist pretending to be a enlightened centrist
Dev Sucks, no Respect for Commies.
"Well what do you expect they're Canadian"
@@austin9568AuraMasterDX im not a Commie myself.
The amount of projection in that first DM was crazy.
Man, that hate DM essay shows how utterly unhinged some people are.
That’s why many try to not bring in politics or social topics. Even the most level headed opinion like not thinking the Ukraine war is black and white will get you dogpiled. But, you also shouldn’t be afraid to voice opinions against the norm. Thats why I hope many Vtubers stay independent. Once they get bigger they sell out or censor themselves to the point where they aren’t the same anymore.
Whenever people say this, they’re trying to defend russian actions
^^ Wow, that is nuclear-level bait! ^^
@@Cm0N. Same logic as Israeli paki war?
@@chriswihulu “bait” almost anytime someone says “erm well it isn’t black and white and actually Ukraine is bad too”, they are actually just trying to sit on the fence and justify the Russian government’s actions
@@Cm0N. You literally read a call for nuance and open debate, into direct support for only one side. You have to have close to zero reading comprehension, in order to read it as such and without even trying to make an actual argument for this, just that "almost anytime some says X, they actually mean Y".
How else am I supposed to read a statement such as that, when you boil it down to a single sentence and nothing else?
“I don’t believe anything without sources”
Sub.
I don't know what's more hilarious. The fact that Dev dug another 6ft down (I lost count how far he dug down over the long years) or the fact that he lost this badly to a vtuber.
"I used to be a conservative" why lie?
They are of their father who was a liar from the beginning.
It was thanks to this drama that I discovered Kirsche (saw Vee's "leave me out of it" video). 😅
welcome
think vee is the primary reason i watch a few vtubers as well, not that i watched any after vee talked about them, but when a lawtuber started talking about VTubers...i was like hey Vee used to talk about this. wonder what this is all about, then he had Kirsche and i laughed me ass off
@@iamnotyu5548 Vee was how I found Pippa and Kirsche.
I will allays remember that episode of "Side Scrollers" where that dude posted that Superchat!
I remember hearing it and thinking "That doesn't sound like our fox woman at all! That's so weird" and it's wierd because comment like that pop up a lot in discussions of Pippa and even this one where someone was trying to say V-Tubing is conservative now" where some rando will jump in and be all "Oh their nazi followers attacked and doxxed me based on my identity" and never have proof of any kind.
I've had a cancel mob come after me once (Allright fine SEVERAL times) and I'm not even famous yet!
thats why its called gay ops. they use sock puppets to harrass themselves and say its some conzervative doing it.
also known as a juicy small ye.
man i bet that person was a totally well adjusted individual, absolutely radiant with good vibes, acceptance and kindness and loved by everyone...
The timing of the Dankula clip was perfect
9:32 that smile from Anya and Azehara being like "Hehehe..." made me laugh. :D
Someone woke up with their ceral pissed in.
I think they enjoy drinking piss
debating with someone whose entire lifes purpose is to take everything you say wildly out of context is like willingly walking blindfolded into a firing squad.
I'd say it's more like charging into No-mans land alone.
I still feel stupid that I fell for Dev’s crap for so many years.
At least you were smart enough to eventually realise how stupid his crap was.
Same
Eh, depends.
His "I want politics out of my entertainment" stuff from half a decade back was reasonably sensible. Not exactly an angle one should feel stupid over agreeing with.
Unsubbed from dev, nasty guy.
Somebody get Dev a snickers
25:59 Very sad, but true. Literally happened with the Actman leaking DMs from Mauler with the HeelvsBabyface Actman Controversy on Starfield. Trust and Friendship broken, reputations tarnished, enemies made, and the Internet is more toxic.
the amount of self importance that one dm has of someone who just "saw the light" around 2:50 is fucking insane
Jesus. Real life politics really do rot your brain
Its interesting to see.
It's why I I've taken drastic step back... I noticed how unhappy I was getting the more I looked into the political abyss.
Hi. Actual Russian man here(no voice changer though. yet) just wanted to say on "dead people videos" part:
The echo chamber in these communities is far heavier than seen from outside, so people spamming those videos, they really think (zealously believe) that these videos only come from side A, and only contain side B. Which leads to these packs containing videos from BOTH sides. Skimming first few videos for insignias and pointing out missidentified ones always does A LOT of damage in such cases. And by "a lot" i mean they never return. It doesn't take political knowledge to tell blue band from red one. try it.
Just don't do it on youtube - they have banhammer here, fyi.
love what you do btw.
Based, thanks for the insight Ivan.
got an up close and personal experience of how you cannot trust the official reports from anyone.
was involved in what could have been a very serious international event about 18 years ago in poland involving US military but witnessed by polish russian and US media. literally all of them lied about what happened in one way or another.
polish media, who wanted US military there, completly downplayed the incident.
Russian media compeltly overplayed the incident, and US media more or less said what happened but completly lied about why it happened. said it was an accident by a very low ranking member.
true, but happened because a very high ranking government official convinced a high ranking officer to completly break protical and international agreements because he thought it would look good for the papers.
Kirshe for President!
I'd gladly call her "Madam President"
@@DICEBOY22 : Maybe put Kirsche as a fill-in on the ballot this year?
Way things are going, I'm more than willing to campaign for "Anime Fox Woman for President 2024", lol.
Dev seems to have some issues with Vtubers as a whole... weird hill to die on though
Dudes feels intimidated by a new trend thats gonna stay so he is using propaganda tactics to make sure he keeps his viewers and making sure he still relevent in the worst way possible or dude has major internet brain rot but who knows
Anime woman make him tard out
@@waterking74I notice a lot of him clinging desperately to relevance, notice how hard he tried to latch himself onto sidescrollers after getting kicked out by the Archcast audience?
Jealousy.
@@AzeharaCh I mean its not the first time he got into hot water with his take on a youtuber. The whole pikamee/hogwarts drama comes to mind. And lately he has been stepping into drama left and right too because he just cant stand being proven wrong.
the count dankula clip, based
I love this foxy lady so much especially after sending Vee the 300 pages essay about the *Sub-Average Height Chubby Canadian* and his shenanigans =))
"300 PAGES CHAT!" - Romanian TVee 2024
To Kirsche: Never change woman🍷😎
man, i remember watching SFO vids about anime series, then dropped it when he got into this brony/let's play phase and lost track of him ever since
9:30 lmao Azehara. Thanks for the clips. True colours shine through eventually. Glad so many people recently have been showing theirs
Tried to summarize things as much as I could while having the clip serve as a sort of advice/warning to new people.
22:09 Literally happened with the Ava Kris Tyson situation. Brought back the long gone Shadman, and instead of the subject topic being about Ava Kris Tyson, the attention was instead turned to Shadman and those who interacted with him YEARS AGO like Akidearest. 😑🤦♂️
There are no friends on the internet, there's no crying in baseball, and there's no sex in the champagne room.
I'm just gonna paraphrase a comment about Dev I read somewhere: Dev has a pathological need to be correct.
Between his appearances on sitch & adam's show and archcast, that is 100% true
I think this applies to almost everyone. That said Dev will go out of his way to argue in bad faith just to make the other person look bad.
Just like his former Liberalist (tm) "friends."
They don't understand that they can disagree but if they have to lie to convince others they are right it just removes their credibility.
They're post Gen-X. Don't act shocked.
Not an excuse though. I'm a millennial and a dumbass and even I understand that @@dubuyajay9964
Dude wasted how long writing that hate mail? Lol. Wow.
Mind you that no one was ever charged or convicted of Insurrection over Jan 6th.
I dont think people care. To them, the people being there means they are in the wrong.
It's so crazy that a bunch of people standing in a building doesn't bring political gains in this modern day and age.
Who would have thought, in a time of instant communication, that taking over a single hall, wouldn't accomplish anything on a national level.
[/drippingwithsarcasm]
Its all political showmanship. They've had that January 6th committee who meets up every blue moon, usually during a long period of bad press, where all they do is sit on their bums and say "insurrection" like they're a pokemon. They don't name the supposedly "dead cops" the media kept hammering about, they don't bring up photos of people acting violent and hurting others, they just talk in circles until the end of their work day when they walk out of the building and collect a fat check for, again, sitting on their bums all day.
Kirsche, if you see this, thanks for confirming what I've been told by *DOZENS* of right wingers and libertarian right wingers have said about Dev for *YEARS* about him housing agents that facilitated and even cofacilitated gay ops.
No wonder the lib-right circles I used to be involved in called him a Fed or glowie.
This really makes it a salient point for how important it is to just save receipts for every interaction. Anai was right record every interaction.
23:41 "Pippa is someone that I can absolutely trust, beyond the shadow of a doubt" Kirsche, July 26 2024
On December 1st 2024 Pippa proved her right when Short Fat Otaku entered her chat. Said things I'm not sure I can quote here without youtube getting angry. Based Pippa is a true friend to Kirsche.
Kirsche's laughter is contagious 🤣
The first DM: Absolute kool-aid addict
It was probably Dev on a burner account if it wasn't Dev blatantly being Dev under his own ID.
I'm kinda thinking not, just because of the "ashamed to share a country" bit. Dev is Canadian, and would probably gloat about it.
Man i hate people like the the first dm, can't do much besides hate and parrot talking points and even with the points they are lacking. Really wish they would just chill out and try to realize that they are doing damage and are doing the exact opposite to what they should if they wanted to help. smh
i found kirsche thanks to this channel, love her based takes
Remember that SFO was part of Trout 'n Tears d0xxing and "academics, please respond" ring back in the day.
That explains a lot.
No clue what that even is.
@@AzeharaCh Oh my it is quite a rabbit hole.
@@AzeharaCh look up mister metokur's tales of trout videos, the original is gone but there are several archives
He was also a part of sargoon's liberalist squad. He dodged talking to Jim like three or four times as well.
I mostly agree with vee's opinions on the matter of dev. Until a few weeks ago, i thought dev was a bit of an ass, and a bit too lenient when it comes to bad people and government, him being a fence sitter and all, but thought he was generally honest. Guess i was wrong lmao. Also not releasing the trucker video was always a bit of a red flag, and i had a feeling if he did he would play defense for the government.
Remember, without free speech, we wouldn't get messages to drink up like this
I have a very small channel. Only about 314 subs and I'm being harassed by a larger channel. The Content Creator is accusing me of reporting her to Animal Control because she has 20 cats and an injured kitten. I didn't do anything, but had to take my channel down, because they keep harassing me. TH-camrs are the worse.
You can ignore them if its too bad then expose their shit behavior on Twitter.
@@AzeharaCh thanks. Any particularly effective ways to expose them? I'm very new at this.
@@TheArmchairCatAdvocate Bring the receipts.
The more time it passes I start to believe more and more that Dev is a grifter
These people don't know what dictators are. But they do show their hand and it shows us all that they are down with the Brown shirts.
3:24 Kirsche pregnancy arc to own the haters?
What the hell is gay ops? I too old to keep up with the kids (im 26).
Taking public action against someone it would be smarter to avoid outright. The victim of gay ops is often an idiot who damages everyone associated with them, including their detractors, while the one doing the gay ops is often trying to troll yet finds that their target is too stupid or chaotic to react in a way that doesn’t somehow screw things up for everyone.
The actions of federal agents, but done by presumed non-federal agents.
Something I’ve always noticed about destiny particularly is just how hopelessly bad he is at scientific analysis. That, and with just how brain dead some of the stuff he’s supported is I genuinely wonder if he can’t properly put together ideas of where things come from or originate in his mind. One of the most bizarre moments I’ve ever seen from a person online was when he said he just didn’t know how he would tell if affirmative action was working or not. How do you even make that mistake? Man has some certified moments sometimes and I can not understand why
Being cucked 24/7 for years messed up his brain.
Bro was a loser carpet installer/cleaner, you can't take him seriously. All he does is just rage bait
The "I used to be stupid" self report is never not funny to me.
it takes a lot of guts to try and take the moral highground after spamming someone with gore.
Shaming tactics and pushing narratives.
Damn bro needs some water and a nap
Needs jesus
In regards to falseyed, I doubt that he’d be inclined to report on sfo. He has spotty track record in terms of news reporting and a proven bias towards certain individuals and organizations.
People always want False to report on things because when it comes to "news" he is the biggest one but often he doesnt tend to cover drama like this and I agree with you, he does have bias towards certain individuals.
He ran interference for froot didn't he?
@@MisterGreis He has displayed a blatant bias for Vshojou and former Nijisanji talents which has been noted on how he reported on Nux vs Vshojou and anything Dokibird.
In b4 Liability Devon shows up in the comments section.
SOON TM
Just putting a TH-cam comment out there reminding people that ShortFatOtaku had done a stream with Flamenco and was a person Dev supported in the community. Even after Flam got found out to be a loser he is, Dev still has him as a moderator, I haven't checked if Flam still is a mod in Dev's chats on YT or Twitch but I can at least confirm he was up to early 2024 as that's the last time I could assume I saw him in one of the chats. Truth be told I started tuning out of Dev's streams because he's become very combinative with his audience and that just exposed how argumentative he is to the point of derailing streams or delaying the intro to a stream, just talking ethics like he's a modern-day Socrates whose always correct and nobody else is especially if it doesn't adhere to his world view.
How is Kirsche not drowning in marriage proposals daily?
She probably is. The chat usually has at least one per stream. Granted, I don't think anyone expects that to go anywhere.
@@Aim54Delta Honestly getting rejected by Kirsche is a higher honor than getting accepted by a normal woman.
@@StarboyXL9 that is a fair point.
Because her voice is as ungodly annoying as a T-1000 violently raping a cheese grater.
Yeesh woke up on the wrong side of the bed I see. @@potatortheomnipotentspud
Give an inch takes 100k miles
5:12 That sound Kirche made was too cute, someone needs to make that a sound effect
18:30 I WASN'T EXPECTING THAT LOL
Dev is the anxiety character from Inside Out 2 except fat.
I don't think giving the benefit of the doubt is a "woman brain" thing. I think it's just something good people tend to do. Or maybe I have some woman brain in me, lol.
Damn, that DM ventures into the realm of hilarity.
damn i like kirsche more and more
@Kirsche ,Remember you are dealing with the party of tolerance and free thinking.
That thumbnail is wild 😏
Kirche is underrated on the sexy scale. Way more powerful then most give credit.
Just a bit sexy while still being TOS friendly
A pinch of sexy with a cup load of schizo
@@AzeharaCh fair enough. Hook me with the bait lol
To quote an old movie called Oliver & Company:
"If this is torture, chain me to the wall." Lol
I hear about her and dev all the time, but I never hear how it started.
Community notes existing reminds me that there is atleast a bit of good out there. Good job, Elon. Don't get used to it.
Documenting 2 years of harrassment would make you accustomed to it. Loses the flavor a bit, but that is wild.
28:11
i truly hope he gets a lawyer..tgey will charge him a fortune reading his crap then laugh at him and tell him he has no case
Sounds just as bad as as a battered wife trying to get away from an abusive husband.
God i Love this Woman.
Shes special but lovable
anyone who believes there was an insurrection in jan 6 should be allowed to vote or claim government benefits
Universal enfranchisement is what opened the floodgates and allowed things to get that bad in the first place. Heinleinism FTW
devs canadian he doesnt have rights just a taste for totalitarian boot
@@Nomadic_GamingI remember he oddly supported the trucker protest but also supported the Canadian banks freezing their bank accounts.
@@almalone3282 its why he will never make the trucker vid he hates they stood up to his beloved overlords and also it would be seen as supporting them and his own gov would not like that
boo checked and the community note is gone.
Despite that, the internet will never forget.
9:20 They literally made Kirsche suffer for 2 Years. Getting compensation and milking the hell out of them is a good idea. Taking the moral high ground and being "merciful" towards scummy people who wouldn't and haven't shown you the same courtesy isn't really a good idea.
Thats the largest amount of messages for someone who supposedly wants to be left alone.
And that attitude? Yeah no, thats not someone trustworthy even slightly, they act like they're doing a massive favor for wanting to bury the hatchet, while also threatening legal action and other stuff when the people who threaten lawyers out of the blue never would do it.
Android 16, man 😢
He was a good boy
Actually Vtubers and politics go well together alot. Vtubers play a character the same as politicians. Vtubers seem to be the more honest of the 2.99% of politicians work til be reelected . At least Vtubers are honest about wanting more followers. I believe the beliefs you say you hold, not so much any government or media.
1:42 bro is literally "men used to go to war"
I personally welcome all conservative content creators, and knowing that there's more conservative VTubers on here now, makes me feel more confident about coming back to this platform. Automatically Subbing. 👍
Its nice to see more diversity when it comes to Vtubers.
It took me like 3-5 videos to see thru dev
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