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- The guys discuss the Klay Thompson signing, OKC’s finals outlook, and power rank the Western Conference.
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Klay still top 5 shooter in nba on insane volume let’s stop the cap. Warriors had him in the no 2 role now he is the no 3. He will be great for Mavs he’s always been overrated defensively but he will be compete
So much of these conversations go back to gambling odds.
They sold out, it's pretty sickening
Yall really sleeping on the Mavs 😂 Stay on that side!!!
ok💀
House is the only one here with a brain.
Why is Minnesota easily assumed over Dallas lol? We saw how that went and Dallas improved.
Seriously wtf??😂
@@jaysmith4357 They acted like that shit was obvious too 🤣
@@xavier92991 Like where does the confidence in saying that stem from? What did I miss?? Do they feel that way because Rob Dillingham? Im from Lexington Ky,Rob is a great young talent but I don’t see him making a difference immediately anyways,plus he has no D lol
Like I said in my post, the Mavs with a hobbled sprained,bloody knee Luka shredded the # 1 in the league and all time Wolves defense in 5 games!! Now you most likely get healthy Luka,2nd year Lively, a better Josh Green in Grimes,a better DJJ in Naji,and a better THJ (who was dnp in that series btw) and idk second best shooter and best catch and shoot guy ever in Klay freaking Thompson!!
Like what are we doing here?🤣🤣🤣
@@jaysmith4357 No clue tbh. That series was not close and Mavs have had a much better offseason. Must be Ant’s “aura” I guess cuz they didn’t really give a reason in the video lol.
@xavier92991 they assume (wrongly) that the Wolves are younger and project to improve more than Dallas. In fairness, an Ant leap COULD surpass Dallas collective improvement, but that's not the most likely scenario.
I will disagree on one thing, while Naji is a better all around player than DJJ, DJJ is more equipped to shut down Ant than Naji. So that could be a step in the wrong direction specifically in a matching with MIN.
For OKC Presti made it very clear they didn’t make the playoffs before. They wanted to see what they had before they made a move. Makes sense
I don't get how Minnesota can be higher than Dallas. In previous play offs Dallas beat Wolves pretty easily like there was no real challenge there and the best addition for Wolves off season is a rookie. Meanwhile Dallas added a lot of shooting and is basically a better team then they were 2-3 weeks ago
My first time checking in on this channel and it will be my last😂
Yea just stop talking basketball fellas lol. If you can’t see that this Klay move is a match made in heaven for both sides then idk? As much talk as it was about the Mavs defense in the finals it wasn’t why they lost. They held Boston to their lowest offensive rating and ppg,it was ultimately the offense that failed them not being able to crack atleast 100 pts in the first 3 games. Why? because the PJ,DJj,Green,Hardaway,Exum,Maxi’s even Kai couldn’t hit open threes!
You now bring in the second best 3 point shooter ever who in a “WASHED” year shot 39% on 9 attempts. Naji Marshall is a better 3pt shooter than DJJ,and Grimes is better offensively than Josh Green!
Klay isn’t asked to be the second option any longer LuKai,and then the lob threats of DLive&Gaff will be the biggest threats for defenses. Klay is going to feast and rejuvenate his career.
Also why on earth do you put the Wolves over the team that just spanked them with an injured Luka in 5 games when Dallas got even better??
All I ask from these podcasts is to think logically without biases and know your hoops that’s all. Terrible analysis guys do better!!
No one reading your life story bro. You wrote a whole resume like chill
here for house!!!!
They must live in the universe where Minnesota won the wcf. What have they done to be above the Mavs?
They don’t watch ball 😂
tHeY HAvE aNT
Since they don't understand how the Mavs upgrade.
THJ - Klay
J Green - Q. Grimes
DJJ - N. Marshall
‘They did win one more playoff game’ 😂😂
1. Dallas Mavericks
2. Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Minnesota Timberwolves
4. Memphis Grizzlies
5. Denver Nuggets
Not a Warriors fan but Hield is a great pick up and a good fit. Warriors could climb the rankings significantly.
7th at best😂
We didn't get klay for his defense. If we get the 18 he averaged last season we're good
People don’t understand how Derrick Jones Jr. helped Luka by being a secondary Lob threat on the court when he was out there with Gafford or Lively. Klay struggled with one of the best ball moving teams in the NBA not sure how he will fare ball watching Kyrie and Luka.
Best ball moving team doesn’t mean he has the cleanest shots or other athletics options to playmake. Not having to run so much will help him in Dallas. He’ll also have lob threats that he can playmake for. He’ll get the cleanest most open shots playing with a playmaker like Luka, who is worlds ahead of Curry in that regards. And Mavs play at a top 7 pace in the league which is a lot faster than Warriors.
@@angelsaint-hilaire4372 will he get more shots with Dallas he averaged 14.7 last year while Tim Hardaway jr avg 12.4 those are pretty much the shots he will be getting this year. Although I think he will be fine on Dallas I do think that the team didn’t improve if anything they have gotten worse.
@@krisstrong it doesn’t matter the amount of shots. He shot 39%3PT on 9 attempts in a down year. Shot 45% on open 3s. But more than the 3-4 3s that he can make for the Mavs, he provides gravity. Luka and Kyrie in the playoffs were getting doubled and then and dudes helping in the paint because they didn’t need to guard DJJ or PJ from 3pt. Let me see one defender leave Klay open. This will open the floor for Luka and Kyrie who are some of the best one on one and paint finishers in the game.
THJ in the playoffs averaged 4pts per game and barely played. Not only was he a bad shooter, but a bad defender. Klay isn’t the guy he used to be, but he still has size and strength and can still hold his own in spots. Also, if you look at a team like Boston, THJ and DJJ were too skinny for their big wings. Having Klay, Naji and PJ will help against those bigger wings.
@@angelsaint-hilaire4372 amount shots always matters for effectiveness. While I don’t think it’s a terrible addition Klay had offense ran for him occasionally which is why he was able to get into rhythm. I do think he creates some gravity but Dallas may force him to be more of a stand still corner shooter which he can probably excel at but doesn’t necessarily compliment his full game. Also if Klay starts it shrinks the teams length from last year. Like I said I don’t think the moves are terrible it just creates new deficiencies.
Silly talk. Denver ahead of Dallas with 4 starters and no bench? OKC? Caruso and Hartenstein are a touch better than Naji and Klay. The problem with your argument is that OKC LOST to Dallas….with home court advantage! The biggest problem? Luka was playing on one leg in the series.
OKC is going to fondly wish for 2024 when they have to face a healthy Luka. I love Caruso, but he said himself you can’t guard Doncic. Luka can put up 50 on Alex. You want Dort? Luka put up 3 consecutive 28pt triple doubles on him in 4, 5, & 6….ON ONE LEG.
You guys are clueless.
I'm a Mavs fan, and a lot of the takes here were awful, but its completely reasonable to think OKC > DAL.
Btw iHart and Caruso are way better than Klay and Naji.
@@AdamHammond-The real reason why OKC will most likely be better than the Mavs next season is because J-Dub and Chet will improve along with added role players. And SGA and Dort will get a lot of experience in the Olympics. It will be an interesting season and for Dallas it really depends on how Klay plays if he’s good then it’ll be a good season. In the playoffs if Klay pulls some crazy shit like making 10 threes in a game against OKC then of course they can win.
@@AdamHammond- i dont agree at all. hartenstein is a solid reserve big man that they way overpaid and i think they will struggle to integrate into their offense. he doesnt fit anything they do and their unique style of play was a large part of why they were successful. going more traditional and slower may end up being a negative when its all said and done but we'll see
@@AnthonyHall-ls6yi to be very clear, I didn't say OKC > DAL, I just said it's not an unreasonable take.
@@AnthonyHall-ls6yiIsaiah is a strong rebounder, a strong passer in the post which allows Chet to go to his natural fit as a stretch 4 and J Dub as a small forward, as well as another shot blocker that teams can’t pull both up to get easy alley oops.
its saddening how a bulk of Luka’s tenure in Dallas, the conversations are almost never about basketball. Constantly finding reasons why Dallas won’t succeed.
House may be the SAS of Ringer; entertaining but wrong more often than right.
Mavs are BY FAR the best team.
Depends on how good shape Luca comes in. He needs to be in better shape to play good defense.
He can’t even say Doncic and the Mavs didn’t get lucky at all.
I just don’t know who else people wanted the Mavs to play, that they keep saying Mavs got lucky. They beat the #1 seed in West who were top 5 in offense and defense and they beat the #3 seed in Wolves who were top defense in the league and just beat the champs. How is facing the #4, #1, #3 seeds lucky? Yet Jokic last year faced the play-in Lakers and Heat and everyone crowned them a dynasty. Make it make sense!
@@angelsaint-hilaire4372 yeah people just hate the Mavs, so they try to act like not having to beat 1-3 made it easy. And the whole Denver thing drives me crazy because if they were that good they wouldn’t have lost. I know matchups are everything but they couldn’t even beat the team we gentlemen swept and were supposed to believe they’d easily beat us.
@@haydengreen3677 plus, we saw the Mavs beat them on a Sunday afternoon in the last game they played and their entire team was healthy. So I think Mavs could have beaten this hobbled Murray and bad shooting MPJ.
@@angelsaint-hilaire4372 Dallas had a lot of help from the referees
@@haydengreen36771. Murray played the entire Minnesota series injured. How well do you think Dallas would have done if Kyrie played injured? 2. Denver was up 20 in the 3rd quarter of game 7, then they flat out ran out of steam. That’s on Malone for running the starters into the ground and not trusting the bench. Denver’s starting 5 player far more minutes than any other starting 5 in the league, of course that has a negative effect in the long run. But being up 20 in game 7 shows you that of course they could have won. 3. You completely contradicted yourself “I know matchups are everything” yes, that’s why you got destroyed by Boston. Denver beat Boston both times they played this last season lol. Dallas is mid. You’ll see next season.
The Mavs have the best young player, not OKC, or Minnesota. Luka took them out being extremely hurt. Then we add Klay Fn Thompson and add 2 dogs in Grimes and Marshall. Plus we’ll have Lively in year 2, and better continuity with Pj and Gafford. The only team still slightly better is Boston.
Luka didn't take OKC out though lol nor kyrie. It was Washington and Jones who both got weirdly hot that series that did their damage. And OKC suddenly couldn't hit a thing, even wide open. Their youth finally showed up and thunder beat themselves 🤷♂️
@@scottpaddlety8741Check Luka’s stats in game 5 and 6 and say that again.
@@scottpaddlety8741 Washington and Jones were getting wide open corner 3s. In that context their shooting wasn't outlandishly hot.
Part of what Boston did so well against Dallas was force above-the-break 3s. Which is why Dallas off-season pickups are probably underrated in terms of matching up better against Boston.
@@scottpaddlety8741 Dallas is young themselves and that was most of our players first time in the playoffs.
@@angelsaint-hilaire4372luka had 8 turnovers in game 6 bestie
I like OKC in the regular season. But in the postseason I dont like the match up with the Wolves, with Denver or with the Mavs. They miss size at the 4.
You missed their offseason moves
@@thesocratescamden They only have Chet, Hartenstein and Jaylin who are taller than 6'6. By trading Giddey 6'8 for Caruso 6'5 they got smaller too.
what 4 is gonna beat the thunder? KAT? lmao
@fabianfrey7649 the average height of OKC is still 6'6 lol
@@alexlawson7022 OKC hadn't enough size to defend Luka on one leg. It will be the same against Lebron, Aaron Gordon, KD, Zion, Sabonis, ...
get rid of the background graphics. its distracting
Strawhter remember that name
He's terrible.
Mavs roster considerably worse. They needed defense and added one old streaky shooter. The Mavs are now dependent on Derrick Lively getting even better, considerably better.
Braun is German, and pronounced Brown. Denver's bench has been a problem for years, and they still made it to the Finals. There are things CB does that KCP doesn't, and vice versa so I think that's a wash. 🤷♀️ I think we'll see more staggered lines this season with the rookies and starters. Michael Malone knows he ran his starters into the ground, and I think Calvin Booth purposely let KCP go so the young guys will play. We shall see what happens...
I personally think Dallas would have never beat Denver and that Denver would have beat Boston in 5 or 6.
Bill you need to put two of these guys in remedial reading. Thompson had an off year? 39% from three? Yikes, Bill, yikes.
Come on man, Klay was awful last season.
bro in the middle participates in race politics fs
Heck no the Kings are not the best team in Cali. They are clearly the worst. It’s not even close
Fan boy wants ESPN to notice him so bad. Mavericks disrespect will not be tolerated 🙅🏽♂️! Don’t start glazing when the Mavs run through the league like the 73-9 Bulls
Lol 73-9 Bulls doesn't exist. You mean the 72-10? Or the 73-9 Warriors? Guy knows ball 😂
I highly doubt they can pull that off given how Luka & Kyrie love to coast through the regular season.
dallas fans are funny man
The Memphis disrespect is fascinating
Everyone has just forgotten about them and tbh it's fair enough. It's up to Memphis to prove they're still up there.
Facts. People forgot they were the 2 seed before everyone got hurt. Edey will be a star and Temetrious is HIM
Recency bias have people in hell
West is much more stacked now, I don't see them getting further than the 2nd round.
@@jan279 Temetrious when healthy is one of the top guards in the Association. He's better than Can't Man
Klay couldn't maintain a starting spot on GSW who were not a playoff team, he's going on 35 and is losing steps by the day. Dallas took a step back.
The majority of OKC's growth will come from the fact they were the second youngest team and are going to develop way more than people realize. Adding top defenders in iHart and Caruso in place of their weakest defender in Giddey should be a big improvement as well.
Klay scored 22ppg on 11 3s per 36 minutes at 39% in a down year.
If he plays at that level thats a hell of a 3rd option and a great fit with LuKai.
Mavs also have a ton of young players who can get better.
We made the Finals, and then just added Klay F’n Thompson, Grimes, and Marshall. We also still have Luka F’n Doncic.
Klay is also playing 3rd banana in a Mavs team where Luka and Kyrie are taking the scoring load for themselves. He could be streakier but he's a better kind of streaky than the last wing the Mavs had for that shooter role in THJ. OKCs growth for the playoffs season really depends on how much of a leap Chet makes. The playmaking promise is there and if they can run sets with him besides their inverted screen actions, they just have to see how much more shooting they need. Either from their roster or to trade for one.
IHart doesn’t improve OKC’s advantage 5 out offense. If anything, it makes them traditional and they’re easier to guard that way. He’s not an offensive threat at all and you can put your weakest defender on him. Also, OKC is acting like they just got Dwight Howard.😂
@@Mrjvc163OKC favorites in the west. Sorry about it.
Anyone who says dallas was lucky are pure stupid or just hating,tell me how can they be lucky?
Minnesota over Denver but honestly they created their own luck and beat the toughest competition possible.
check the okc series, dallas’s role players shot like crazy from 3 and okc’s overall better shooters shot like 25%. in a series where the overall score was tied, that’s luck
@@alexlawson7022 They left PJ completely wide open all series long. Also Luka shot like ass all series. OKC was too young.
L video
Memphis can beat okc.
All y’all mavs fans are always mad 😂😂 just like Luka and his complaining