Just so you know the reason that the case loader is slower is because it is using a bigger loader which the smallest loader option is 3,300 pounds the self leveling is higher I don’t know the specs on that. Also this tractor is comparable to the new holland power star 75 which is why the loader is slower the work master has a smaller loader that lifts depending on which loader from 2,400 to 3,100 which that loader has much faster cycle times than the one on their and the smaller loaders have much better visibility but less lift. Great video!
Yes I agree the small pump on the CNH units plays the biggest factor. I assume when your talking about the lift capacity of the CNH loaders your looking at pivot pin measurements which are always significantly higher than forward measurements. Based on the CASE website the L565 lifts 1940lbs and the L620 lifts 2478lbs both measured 31.5 inches forward. That puts the base model 931X Massey loader right between the two with two heavier loader options above them. I also just noticed the Massey loader lifts 22 inches higher than the L620. I didn’t think there was that big a difference personally. Thanks for watching.
I know im a year behind, but it was pretty obvious that the massey loader was mounted higher than the case in the video. At the end of the day, it comes down to price and dealer support after the sale with farm equipment. Perhaps a little bit of brand favoritism thrown in to boot.
Do you have an estimate on weight of the 4707:as equipped here? I have a 75C now but like the 4707 better but can’t go any heavier than I already have.
My Dad is Red and I am Green...His new 150Puma is slower up and down then my 24 year old Deere that's 80 HP... I'm into a bale and reversing before he's all the way into the hay bale.
Yeah there’s a obviously several factors affecting loader speed primarily: hyd flow, lift cylinder size, loader geometry and plumbing. Often loaders with less lift capability move quicker. Thanks for watching!
It’s crazy how expensive they are yet in comparison to Belarus 82hp tractor they’re not even close to being durable and reliable which can be bought for under 6k 😅
Just got a quote for 80,500 and far from decked out. Three scvs in back, the nicer loader, hook up for grapple, rear wheel weight set. Pretty standard stuff that should come on a decent tractor.
I’m looking at tractor house and see no reason to buy this tractor when I can can get a used 5090R with 200hrs on it for roughly the same money. John Deere is a much better tractor in my humble opinion. I’ve just seen so many videos with this specific tractor failures.
Great comparison between the 2 tractors. In my opinion it definitely proves the Massey is the right choice. Keep up the videos, they're educational.
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Great video. Great comparison!
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Just so you know the reason that the case loader is slower is because it is using a bigger loader which the smallest loader option is 3,300 pounds the self leveling is higher I don’t know the specs on that. Also this tractor is comparable to the new holland power star 75 which is why the loader is slower the work master has a smaller loader that lifts depending on which loader from 2,400 to 3,100 which that loader has much faster cycle times than the one on their and the smaller loaders have much better visibility but less lift. Great video!
Also both the work master and power star which are the equivalent have 12.6 gallons of flow which is why the bigger loaders are slower
Yes I agree the small pump on the CNH units plays the biggest factor. I assume when your talking about the lift capacity of the CNH loaders your looking at pivot pin measurements which are always significantly higher than forward measurements. Based on the CASE website the L565 lifts 1940lbs and the L620 lifts 2478lbs both measured 31.5 inches forward. That puts the base model 931X Massey loader right between the two with two heavier loader options above them.
I also just noticed the Massey loader lifts 22 inches higher than the L620. I didn’t think there was that big a difference personally.
Thanks for watching.
No those lift capacities on the new holland are out in front of the pivot points and also had a question how tall are those Massey tires?
I think the new holland loaders are different than the case ones but I’m not sure
@@kalebmcdaniel9147 yeah that’s what I’m finding.
Massey seems very similar to the Kioti RX 7320
I know im a year behind, but it was pretty obvious that the massey loader was mounted higher than the case in the video. At the end of the day, it comes down to price and dealer support after the sale with farm equipment. Perhaps a little bit of brand favoritism thrown in to boot.
Yes the loader is mounted higher and we 💯 agree with you on dealer support which is what we are known for!!!
Do you have an estimate on weight of the 4707:as equipped here? I have a 75C now but like the 4707 better but can’t go any heavier than I already have.
It’s going to be heavier by about 2000lbs. That’s the one downside we give more tractor but you’re getting more tractor.
75c and 4707 poullugh? 🇹🇷
My Dad is Red and I am Green...His new 150Puma is slower up and down then my 24 year old Deere that's 80 HP... I'm into a bale and reversing before he's all the way into the hay bale.
Yeah there’s a obviously several factors affecting loader speed primarily: hyd flow, lift cylinder size, loader geometry and plumbing. Often loaders with less lift capability move quicker. Thanks for watching!
It’s crazy how expensive they are yet in comparison to Belarus 82hp tractor they’re not even close to being durable and reliable which can be bought for under 6k 😅
I think, what I comes down to is , how big your pocket book is. 😅
No actually super close in price.
@PR Equipment well, than the Massey it is.
powerstar
Thanks for watching!
Yep looks more like a Powerstar
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Massey is definitely a better tractor but its $70k the Case is $56k. If I'm paying 70k
Only 70 if decked out. Come see us.
Just got a quote for 80,500 and far from decked out. Three scvs in back, the nicer loader, hook up for grapple, rear wheel weight set. Pretty standard stuff that should come on a decent tractor.
I’m looking at tractor house and see no reason to buy this tractor when I can can get a used 5090R with 200hrs on it for roughly the same money. John Deere is a much better tractor in my humble opinion. I’ve just seen so many videos with this specific tractor failures.
Very helpful information!
Glad it was helpful!