This is what happened with the family band LILIAC with America's Got Talent for the 2020. They got thru the initial audition, and then Covid hit, and while waiting for the next round, their well versed Music Producer father fully read the AGT contract and saw all the BS y'all just detailed, and was like, "Yeah, nah, we out..."
Fantastic video. You guys need to make a follow up or make this a recurring series!! I’m a stand up comedian, and this resonates within our community too. I know a bunch of comics who’ve gone on AGT (or auditioned) and they share similar stories, experiences. I was a Top 100 “finalist” on Last Comic Standing back in 2014 and yeah, there’s a LOT the public doesn’t see...
Great that both of you take the time to put out the facts that will help others in their own journeys. Your generosity will lead to greater success for each of you.
Congratulations on your success!!!! You're very smart not to be subjected and owned by company that will exploit you!! You are a unique, creative, artistic, innovative and impromptu on all your music, above all you have the gift. You negated above and beyond the politics and drama of the inclusion of music world!!!! GO beyond, your journey is a total joy to all people across the universe!!!!!
Very enlightening. I always knew it wasn't what it seemed when they dropped in the back stories of the contestants. I just didn't realize it went way beyond that. Thanks for giving us the behind the scenes.
AGT used to actually reward $1 million. When it was new. Then quickly it turned into 20 year annuity. Now, it is 40 years. So you only get $20k/year. Which after tax is like $12k. So yeah, it is a total scam.
Yeah, total scam. You enter a contest, and if you win, they award you the prize that they told you they would, then the government taxes your "income". Complete and total scam. Smh. Edit: You can't please some people.
@@michynature "That math doesn't add up." and then not post any details? First of all, you don't get the full $25k, some is withheld. You then still have to pay full taxes each year on that which is far more than the estimated witholding. You will notice many coming on the show are foreign now. They don't have to pay as much income tax. Second, this is about the scam of it not being a real $1mil prize when it takes 40 YEARS to pay it out!
I saw you on Lithuanian got talent. You were very confident and performed well. You did your best genre, "Blues". You came to America after you won the talent show. So I thought it at least gave you confidence. I lived in Klaipėda from 1997-2004. There are world class classical musicians who can't make a living in Lithuania because of the suppressed economy. Violeta Urmana, (Urmanaviciute) is an exception. She is an Lithuanian Opera singer who has sung main role at Met NYC. She and her husband celebrated Easter with our family...
yeah, easy for guy who joined talent contest and now has a pretty large audience, telling lesser known artists to not take that route, oh by the way, sign up for my affiliate link! so scammy. Just a video to get you to click their affiliate link. I guess that's what it's all used for in the end. So yea, not worth the effort. Much less desire to follow an artist downing on other people's paths to success while trying to sell me shit. poor form.
Thank you for this informative video. Do they really steal your content ? Do these judges know they support this by being a judge? So talented both of you. Love you Sean so glad I found your channel. You’re such a wonderful personality.
They don't steal your content, you are just not allowed to release anything without their permission, input, and control. Because they want to make money off of it. The judges are not the ones creating the contracts, and are often just hired by the show to judge. There may be some like Simon Cowell that have a stake in the show.
Awesome vid guys and yeah it really needed to be said lets hope any backlash is minimal but y'know negative comes back 3 times as hard (scoped the bracelet - blessed be !) peace out and keep rockin ]:o)
I know a finalist from the early American Idol years. She says she would never go thru that process again. You agree to give them like 75% of your earnings. The exposure may have been worth before the internet age but now that we have social media and you provide exposure for yourself and own everything you do. I know for a fact that Kelly Clarkson and few others went to court and settled with AM to get released from their contracts. Prince always said to own your own stuff.
Once you win they own your name. It’s like these mainstream artists who sign contracts they have stay the same and can’t recreate themselves. Have to be forced to make albums and stick to the same genre all the time.
Support Independant artists that write, record, sell their own music. No middle men. I do on patreon. A Canadian rocker living in Estonia just supporting his family. Selling himself, music, merch, doing small venues.
How about cellphone policy, I v never seen someone from the crowd filming any performances, never seen on social media even pictures from the family members presentation. Is there any cellphone policy for the crowd?
A court in Germany actually put into question if these contracts are binding. Case of Liliana, Germany's next top model. She started posting and telling what happened behind the scenes and is officially allowed now, to claim certain things about the show, which her contract explicitly forbid her to talk about. Not everything is set into stone as these TV channels want to make it look like. Good video.
Really glad you did this. So many people watching your videos say "OMG why isn't that girl on The Voice" when someone comes up and slays. It had to come from YOU for them to hear it. The only thing I would add is for you to encourage these Voice watchers to go to their local bar and see real people putting in the work and blowing people away. I've always preferred the small acts in intimate settings connecting to audiences vs arena shows and big TV shows. Great video, keep speaking truth to power
@Russell Phelps I appreciate your very good point, I get what you are saying. This is however not a zero sum game but rather there is nuance. TH-cam can be a business card for artists to find out about them and eventually see them and then there are folks like Døvydas that use it as their primary vehicle. Døvydas' point is these shows are blood sucking monsters, mine was that there are live alternatives to them.
@@jackblah5842 you sir are correct,,..it’s what TH-cam is perfect for, and when this “key” is utilized approaching its full potential, magical lightning can ignite an eternal legend or touch off a blaze of glory. I’ve seen both over the years, I think you guys have some real potential and it’s exciting to see you approaching the edge of something…….good luck, have fun it’s going to be way fun than standing on a street corner,,..once you get out in front of a couple thousand screaming fans you will be hooked for life….
I have a nephew, he auditioned for American Idol, and passed both the Sacramento, and San Francisco, auditions. Next stop Hollywood, to meet Simon, and the crew. Where he sang a song by Prince. The judges liked him, but didn't like his choice of songs, and offered to give him a coach to try and change his image. My nephew said; no thank you! But before leaving my dad, brother, and other nephew joined him on stage to perform a barbershop quartet song, which the judges really enjoyed. Whether my nephew knows it or not saying no was the best lifetime decision that he may ever have to make.
Can you talk about the Susan Boyle audition???? Because I think it change her life forever. Coz I don't think she would have got that kind of publicity if she didn't do that audition. It had a positive impact in her life for sure.
There is always an option in life. Go where you are treated best for your bucks. Life is short to do the things you don't love doing. Be kind. Be cool. Take care from a genocide survivor under Pol Pot dictatorship!
Before this video, I was hoping all was well for you guys. Genuine concern. After just this first point , I realized why I had the concern. You guys are great for educating those trying to follow in music but need a solid road map to get there. Nice of you to share that.
I’d like to know if they give preferences to those with a better “sad story.” It’s become so redundant how these contestants each have some tragic event or circumstances to provoke sympathy from the audience and television viewers. Guessing there’s a line in the paperwork, “Please describe the saddest event you’ve experienced.”
It's made for tv. To be watched and consumed by millions, to grab their attention and get those ratingssss. Naturally, they choose the most captivating people/stories
Good video fellas you 2 are too funny together Thanks for speaking some facts that more people should know about these Talent Traps. I think people get the idea that these contracts are only for the winner but they apply to everyone on the show. My cousin got stuck in a contract with The Voice for years where they basically owned everything he did. You did forget to mention the most important thing though... You could go on one of these shows and end up losing to some dude who flicks his teeth
You always make great videos Dovy. I perform all the time but never in talent shows now I know what they do will never audition thanks for the heads up.
Hey Dovydas, I started watching and listening to you about a year ago. You have really inspired me to get back into music after a 20 year hiatus. Keep up the great work and thanks! Please come to Portland, OR.
I know what you've presented to be factual information because of my own personal experience (not with talent tv shows, but other similar venues). Think of those program producers as vampires who want to suck you dry, then you will think twice about ever getting involved with anything like that EVER. There are many horror stories where people have shared similar information about these "talent shows". Heed their warnings.
You talking about Irish...On Grafton street (Dublin) sing Allie Sherlock..It looks like she worked herself out. She is still a minor, so it goes without saying that her father manages everything as a manager. But he's a father. Not a trading company. Now she is rich girl.
How many extremely old performers are heard telling interviewers that they're back on tour "because (they) have the contract"? Dozens in last four years. You sign up and your image, name, characterization, performances, intellectual property related to the artist contract, and ALL your appearances are owned/controlled aa well. You can quit, but they are completely in their legal right to replace you with look alike while you're paying elsewhere. Mahe Ohna ✌️ Favour ALL
I remember seeing a video by someone who managed to invent a sob story that was sad enough that he got picked. And he kind of managed to get to the finals before he got discovered (I think it was the British version). It also feels like they're searching for a specific type of victim *eh* talent. One that can be 'coached' into doing what the record company wants. Actual talented people are far too difficult to manage, because (as you say) they will jump ship if they find a better deal. The ones that have just enough talent to do what they want, but not enough to get ideas above their station are what they really need.
People aren't very smart an average: Friend of mine was writing a book, and were looking for publisher online. He found one, which were recommended to him by the some other friends. He was quite pumped up about this corporation, so because he ask, I go their homepage and read their standard contract: "The author/writer hands over all his rights to this material by this agreement, and get 0,x$ fee per sold book". So you if wrote a top selling book, you give away all your rights to your own work, and get 0,x$ per sold copy? While they get xx$ per copy + everything from the movie rights, from ancillary products etc. What if J. K. Rowling would have sign this kind of publishing deal? 🤣
Arrrg how'd you know I signed up for AGT. Just whated to get my grandkids in to music just wanted to show off new tech to making music The easy way!! thanks to the heads-up
I am a 56 year old father of three grown woman, I have no music ability at all, can't even beat my foot to music, but I love you guy's. So down to earth, keep it up guy's from sunny Dubai.✌
Thank you for the truth, it’s like everything else in life including government, people are waking up to this false world, be yourself and be true and loving and your life will be gifted , the world is changing, it’s us against the evil one , who is the evil one , have you woken yet ? ❤
Great chat. Couldn’t agree more. My playlists of artists that I listen to, are creative geniuses, such as yourselves, that have created their own space on various platforms, through their talent, dedication, sacrifice and hard work. When the internet was created, people discovered the true amount of talent across the world, that did not have record labels attached to their music, had not won any reality TV competition and it was mind-blowing. Love your channel.
Truth being told here. The Voice judges get paid around 13M per season. No wonder Blake and Gwen are both on there, that is quite a dual income! Meanwhile, the winner of The Voice gets a paltry 100K, and of course the record contract that even Blake Shelton acknowledges is crap. I really liked last year's Voice winner Girl Named Tom. Too bad they made a deal with the Devil. These shows suck their contestants dry, discard them, and move on to the next one...
Puddles the clown went on one of the major tallent shows.......he washed out in the second round. Puddles is a great tallent, no way he was bad enough to have been eleminated this soon. I agree, do not give them the power over you.
Hey there. That one guy who watches your videos. It is a great time to be able to put your talents into to world’s eye and be appreciated openly and on the artists terms. Talent shows thrives in an era before technology provided everyone the opportunity to platform and network without limiting contractual obligation/stipulations. Cheers on all of the success and blessed timings you have had. Watching your content has been quite a journey. Cheers to this and many, many more!
So you're in effect enabling the shows to take advantage of artists. I'm not gonna tell you what is right or wrong, but people need to be honest with themselves about the impact of what they do, watch, spend money on, etc.
@@Asshat237 No comparison. When someone goes on a talent show, they know the pros and cons or should. Things aren't always fair and square. Many of the acts benefit from just getting the exposure. They often show up somewhere.
An let's face it , I'm 62 yrs old an at this point in my life I'M LIVING DOG YEARS here..lmao no time to learn everything besides stoned an old not good learning environment butt good for me lmao
That all really sucks! It’s a wonder they can even get artists for these shows! I listen to your music on Amazon. Spontaneity is everything. Those moments serve to endear the Artist io their audience.
I went to college for commercial music and media. My teacher Mr. Anderson, a trombone player, educated us on the shady nature of the entertainment industry, broke down all our copyrights, contracts, licenses, and pretty much shattered all the dreams of his students who thought they would have a career in this industry. It's corrupt, and the laws are barely catching up to protecting artists. Songwriters and original works are either ignored completely, or they try to devour you and possess you. All recordings are digital now. The warmth to the music is less and less. Now we got AI making art images... i just don't see a happy future for humans entertaining other humans. It's sad, but there's far more restrictions in this industry than any other. It's a cult in my humble opinion. Grammy U recruits new members out of the college ranks each year....
This is what happens to Dimash in the world best. It's a disgusting vulture culture. Glad it back fire on them, and their gone now. While the talent Dimash is bigger than ever
Yes...followup definitely...these kids need to hear from experience...if I were actually talented, I would have signed my life away for a Trans Am and a new Harley...teach them well sensai...
So watching this was very enlightening. I'm a 50 something DJ/karaoke guy. I loved to sing. But over the last three years because of COVID, my health and old system. Which was top notch in the 2007-2016 era but now not so good. Even tho my makes are cool. (They don't make them anymore. Fire at factory.) So plus my voice isn't as strong as it used to be. But anyway, I'm thinking of doing a TH-cam show for older people to watch. Please let me know how to do it. If I can make a little bit of money singing karaoke songs by overweight people. Maybe I can help encourage others like me to sing. That was my greatest joy. Watching someone who was self conscious and watch them blossom in one song. Made my day.
yes! do a follow up! i know you can't get the into the dark side of the music business on this platform. just like Hollyweird's dark side of the movie/ TV business. i really feel for these talented singers on these shows who want fame so bad and i know how much it will cost them in the music industry. much better to follow your advice. Taj Farrant is doing his own thing with his dad as manager and is doing well, as an example. keep playing and doing your thing. Both of you rock. 💗
damn David and Sean~ Just think of how many bubbles y'all have burst in the world of produced Talent shows. True talent... true artistry... is the culmination of unharnessed passion of your expression... whatever the talent may be! 💯
All Sean and David did was shine a light on some quicksand and say, Hey. ya'll, don't step in that, here's how you step around it." For new talent, how cool is that?!
This extremely important to pull the band-aid off the infection of fake musical talent shows. Its not about being real it about setting up a fake environment that people find entertaining. Its like a beauty contest in which the which is proclaim the most beautiful person in a state, country, or world. Yea like they compared them to every person in the world to determine it. Its all about money and fantasy entertainment in the most wrong way where the person that is proclaim by the producers in the background and the judges are charged with making that choice look like theirs and is real. Its pretty ugly. Maybe you should pull questions out of the comments and do a show of taking the questions and answering them. I really like this show. Breaking the chains of illusions (name of a old book) is a to get to what is real and really valuable like you guys. Thanks!
Talents shows are a business & like EVERY business is "Run for Profit" where the worker (the talent) MUST be paid less than the worth of your product so the company can make a profit. Simon Cowell would not be making all these shows if he wasn't getting richer off of the blood, sweat & tears of the people that go on these shows. While the best might get a contract & make some money most will get nothing & for "Entertainment Value" talentless performers will be aired so they can be mocked for the amusement of the viewers & l feel genuine sympathy for them as they go home broken & dejected instead of encouraged to continue trying in a more realist way, ie street performance, community shows or hospital/retirement shows.
This is what happened with the family band LILIAC with America's Got Talent for the 2020. They got thru the initial audition, and then Covid hit, and while waiting for the next round, their well versed Music Producer father fully read the AGT contract and saw all the BS y'all just detailed, and was like, "Yeah, nah, we out..."
Fantastic video. You guys need to make a follow up or make this a recurring series!! I’m a stand up comedian, and this resonates within our community too. I know a bunch of comics who’ve gone on AGT (or auditioned) and they share similar stories, experiences. I was a Top 100 “finalist” on Last Comic Standing back in 2014 and yeah, there’s a LOT the public doesn’t see...
Great that both of you take the time to put out the facts that will help others in their own journeys. Your generosity will lead to greater success for each of you.
Congratulations on your success!!!! You're very smart not to be subjected and owned by company that will exploit you!! You are a unique, creative, artistic, innovative and impromptu on all your music, above all you have the gift. You negated above and beyond the politics and drama of the inclusion of music world!!!! GO beyond, your journey is a total joy to all people across the universe!!!!!
Where's the Beato book discount code?
Hell yeah. Love seeing behind the curtain.
Very enlightening. I always knew it wasn't what it seemed when they dropped in the back stories of the contestants. I just didn't realize it went way beyond that. Thanks for giving us the behind the scenes.
AGT used to actually reward $1 million. When it was new. Then quickly it turned into 20 year annuity. Now, it is 40 years. So you only get $20k/year. Which after tax is like $12k. So yeah, it is a total scam.
Yeah, total scam. You enter a contest, and if you win, they award you the prize that they told you they would, then the government taxes your "income". Complete and total scam. Smh.
Edit: You can't please some people.
wow
Wow I didn’t know that?
That math isn’t adding up…
@@michynature "That math doesn't add up." and then not post any details?
First of all, you don't get the full $25k, some is withheld. You then still have to pay full taxes each year on that which is far more than the estimated witholding.
You will notice many coming on the show are foreign now. They don't have to pay as much income tax.
Second, this is about the scam of it not being a real $1mil prize when it takes 40 YEARS to pay it out!
Nailed it dovydas and Sean always respect your vids , thanks for telling it like it is ...
I saw you on Lithuanian got talent. You were very confident and performed well. You did your best genre, "Blues".
You came to America after you won the talent show. So I thought it at least gave you confidence.
I lived in Klaipėda from 1997-2004.
There are world class classical musicians who can't make a living in Lithuania because of the suppressed economy.
Violeta Urmana, (Urmanaviciute) is an exception. She is an Lithuanian Opera singer who has sung main role at Met NYC.
She and her husband celebrated Easter with our family...
yeah, easy for guy who joined talent contest and now has a pretty large audience, telling lesser known artists to not take that route, oh by the way, sign up for my affiliate link! so scammy. Just a video to get you to click their affiliate link. I guess that's what it's all used for in the end. So yea, not worth the effort. Much less desire to follow an artist downing on other people's paths to success while trying to sell me shit. poor form.
Thanks.
Actually, dovydas lost to a contestant who performed by clicking his fingernails on his teeth
Holy cow! You look like a true rockstar now! I haven't seen your videos in awhile. It looks like you've been spending a lot of hours in the gym.
I didn't realize he was so buff💪 🤯🤯
That's me buddy, I watch them all!!
Wait me too
Thank you for this informative video. Do they really steal your content ? Do these judges know they support this by being a judge?
So talented both of you. Love you Sean so glad I found your channel. You’re such a wonderful personality.
They don't steal your content, you are just not allowed to release anything without their permission, input, and control. Because they want to make money off of it. The judges are not the ones creating the contracts, and are often just hired by the show to judge. There may be some like Simon Cowell that have a stake in the show.
Awesome vid guys and yeah it really needed to be said lets hope any backlash is minimal but y'know negative comes back 3 times as hard (scoped the bracelet - blessed be !) peace out and keep rockin ]:o)
Finally meeting the video guy! Ive wondered who produces your videos? They are fantastic! Great information! Thank you guys!!
Very informative. Thanks guys for enlightening new struggling music artists..
Damn dovydas looking shredded af
Thanku so much for sharing you guys are awesome much love an God bless always from Cyprus x
I know a finalist from the early American Idol years. She says she would never go thru that process again. You agree to give them like 75% of your earnings. The exposure may have been worth before the internet age but now that we have social media and you provide exposure for yourself and own everything you do. I know for a fact that Kelly Clarkson and few others went to court and settled with AM to get released from their contracts. Prince always said to own your own stuff.
Love you two!!
Thank you both for the valuable information.
Dovydas, you are sooooo dreamy! I swear I am not cringe. You are beautiful! Love you!
Great stuff!
Once you win they own your name. It’s like these mainstream artists who sign contracts they have stay the same and can’t recreate themselves. Have to be forced to make albums and stick to the same genre all the time.
I wanna grow up to be as awesome as you two! I would love to see a Dovydas Compilation of the Talent shows...
nicely explained DOVYDAS and Sean thanks very informative
Hopefully people are listening to the lessons
Very interesting. Can I just say...Fuck Talent Shows! Gig it!!
Support Independant artists that write, record, sell their own music. No middle men. I do on patreon. A Canadian rocker living in Estonia just supporting his family. Selling himself, music, merch, doing small venues.
These guys are so special to me keep me going like my babybooboo keeps me going makes me happy
Raw is always best versus polished. Punk music teaches you that..
How about cellphone policy, I v never seen someone from the crowd filming any performances, never seen on social media even pictures from the family members presentation. Is there any cellphone policy for the crowd?
I think many parents are also pushing their kids, having no clue, or worse, HAVING a clue!
Video saved! Thanks
I love it. Great video.
Been there..done that. I agree with everything you just said.
dovydas upload moment
Wow! Nothing is as it seems, corruption everywhere…..sad
Interesting and informative.
What is Sean gonna do now that his mentor is moving away?
Lmfao gotta cop that beato book
👋 what do you guys think of NOCOVER ?
"The Voice" launched my career said no one ever.
Dovy you look like you could be the lead singer to a hair metal band 😂
FOLLOW UP please!!!
Please do a Follow Up. Your INteresting..Thanks!!
A court in Germany actually put into question if these contracts are binding. Case of Liliana, Germany's next top model. She started posting and telling what happened behind the scenes and is officially allowed now, to claim certain things about the show, which her contract explicitly forbid her to talk about. Not everything is set into stone as these TV channels want to make it look like. Good video.
Yes not all terms are enforceable, the problem is it cost money if they take you to court.
Really glad you did this. So many people watching your videos say "OMG why isn't that girl on The Voice" when someone comes up and slays. It had to come from YOU for them to hear it. The only thing I would add is for you to encourage these Voice watchers to go to their local bar and see real people putting in the work and blowing people away. I've always preferred the small acts in intimate settings connecting to audiences vs arena shows and big TV shows. Great video, keep speaking truth to power
If you air anything on TH-cam,,..aren’t you giving it up right at the moment of broadcast??,,..yeah that’s it right???,..Including this comment??
@Russell Phelps I appreciate your very good point, I get what you are saying. This is however not a zero sum game but rather there is nuance. TH-cam can be a business card for artists to find out about them and eventually see them and then there are folks like Døvydas that use it as their primary vehicle. Døvydas' point is these shows are blood sucking monsters, mine was that there are live alternatives to them.
@@jackblah5842 you sir are correct,,..it’s what TH-cam is perfect for, and when this “key” is utilized approaching its full potential, magical lightning can ignite an eternal legend or touch off a blaze of glory. I’ve seen both over the years, I think you guys have some real potential and it’s exciting to see you approaching the edge of something…….good luck, have fun it’s going to be way fun than standing on a street corner,,..once you get out in front of a couple thousand screaming fans you will be hooked for life….
I have a nephew, he auditioned for American Idol, and passed both the Sacramento, and San Francisco, auditions. Next stop Hollywood, to meet Simon, and the crew. Where he sang a song by Prince. The judges liked him, but didn't like his choice of songs, and offered to give him a coach to try and change his image. My nephew said; no thank you!
But before leaving my dad, brother, and other nephew joined him on stage to perform a barbershop quartet song, which the judges really enjoyed. Whether my nephew knows it or not saying no was the best lifetime decision that he may ever have to make.
Can you talk about the Susan Boyle audition???? Because I think it change her life forever. Coz I don't think she would have got that kind of publicity if she didn't do that audition. It had a positive impact in her life for sure.
There is always an option in life. Go where you are treated best for your bucks. Life is short to do the things you don't love doing. Be kind. Be cool. Take care from a genocide survivor under Pol Pot dictatorship!
Before this video, I was hoping all was well for you guys. Genuine concern. After just this first point , I realized why I had the concern. You guys are great for educating those trying to follow in music but need a solid road map to get there. Nice of you to share that.
I’d like to know if they give preferences to those with a better “sad story.” It’s become so redundant how these contestants each have some tragic event or circumstances to provoke sympathy from the audience and television viewers. Guessing there’s a line in the paperwork, “Please describe the saddest event you’ve experienced.”
It's made for tv. To be watched and consumed by millions, to grab their attention and get those ratingssss. Naturally, they choose the most captivating people/stories
It's all about the emotional roller coaster.
Good video fellas you 2 are too funny together
Thanks for speaking some facts that more people should know about these Talent Traps. I think people get the idea that these contracts are only for the winner but they apply to everyone on the show. My cousin got stuck in a contract with The Voice for years where they basically owned everything he did.
You did forget to mention the most important thing though... You could go on one of these shows and end up losing to some dude who flicks his teeth
You always make great videos Dovy. I perform all the time but never in talent shows now I know what they do will never audition thanks for the heads up.
Hey Dovydas, I started watching and listening to you about a year ago. You have really inspired me to get back into music after a 20 year hiatus. Keep up the great work and thanks! Please come to Portland, OR.
So glad you did this topic again ..ppl werent understanding ..you guys are awesome working together 🙌🏼
I know what you've presented to be factual information because of my own personal experience (not with talent tv shows, but other similar venues). Think of those program producers as vampires who want to suck you dry, then you will think twice about ever getting involved with anything like that EVER. There are many horror stories where people have shared similar information about these "talent shows". Heed their warnings.
You talking about Irish...On Grafton street (Dublin) sing Allie Sherlock..It looks like she worked herself out. She is still a minor, so it goes without saying that her father manages everything as a manager. But he's a father. Not a trading company. Now she is rich girl.
How many extremely old performers are heard telling interviewers that they're back on tour "because (they) have the contract"?
Dozens in last four years.
You sign up and your image, name, characterization, performances, intellectual property related to the artist contract, and ALL your appearances are owned/controlled aa well.
You can quit, but they are completely in their legal right to replace you with look alike while you're paying elsewhere.
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I remember seeing a video by someone who managed to invent a sob story that was sad enough that he got picked.
And he kind of managed to get to the finals before he got discovered (I think it was the British version).
It also feels like they're searching for a specific type of victim *eh* talent. One that can be 'coached' into doing what the record company wants.
Actual talented people are far too difficult to manage, because (as you say) they will jump ship if they find a better deal.
The ones that have just enough talent to do what they want, but not enough to get ideas above their station are what they really need.
People aren't very smart an average: Friend of mine was writing a book, and were looking for publisher online. He found one, which were recommended to him by the some other friends. He was quite pumped up about this corporation, so because he ask, I go their homepage and read their standard contract: "The author/writer hands over all his rights to this material by this agreement, and get 0,x$ fee per sold book". So you if wrote a top selling book, you give away all your rights to your own work, and get 0,x$ per sold copy? While they get xx$ per copy + everything from the movie rights, from ancillary products etc. What if J. K. Rowling would have sign this kind of publishing deal? 🤣
Arrrg how'd you know I signed up for AGT. Just whated to get my grandkids in to music just wanted to show off new tech to making music The easy way!! thanks to the heads-up
I am a 56 year old father of three grown woman, I have no music ability at all, can't even beat my foot to music, but I love you guy's. So down to earth, keep it up guy's from sunny Dubai.✌
one daughter plays the piano, one plays the violin, one plays flute and dad plays the radio..... ;-)
"an't even beat my foot to music"
You could just beat your chest 🤣
@@itsafunnyoldworld sorry couldnt understand that, youve been in the pyramids too long dear... 😁
"you guy's"? Guy's what? Try 'guys', plural. Why the apostrophe?
Thank you for the truth, it’s like everything else in life including government, people are waking up to this false world, be yourself and be true and loving and your life will be gifted , the world is changing, it’s us against the evil one , who is the evil one , have you woken yet ? ❤
Great chat. Couldn’t agree more. My playlists of artists that I listen to, are creative geniuses, such as yourselves, that have created their own space on various platforms, through their talent, dedication, sacrifice and hard work. When the internet was created, people discovered the true amount of talent across the world, that did not have record labels attached to their music, had not won any reality TV competition and it was mind-blowing. Love your channel.
Truth being told here.
The Voice judges get paid around 13M per season. No wonder Blake and Gwen are both on there, that is quite a dual income! Meanwhile, the winner of The Voice gets a paltry 100K, and of course the record contract that even Blake Shelton acknowledges is crap.
I really liked last year's Voice winner Girl Named Tom. Too bad they made a deal with the Devil. These shows suck their contestants dry, discard them, and move on to the next one...
I just want to appreciate the arrangement of this video💗💓💞 It’s great for watching 🔥👑💝
Did Sean let you bench press him?
How many of you would be here for a Dovydas and Sean talent show?
Thank you for making your voice heard its important that people know this. Because making music is a passion.
✨✨✨👑✨✨✨ MAY THE FORCE of YOUR OWN TALENT SHINE ✨ Without TV shows ! 🌟
Lindsey Stirling had a similar experience with a talent show like you did, Dovydas.
Like Dovydas, Lindsey Stirling is totally awesome!
Check the Soul relinquishing section of the contract.
my guy your getting huge!
Really good advice.
Bro looking absolutely huge
Puddles the clown went on one of the major tallent shows.......he washed out in the second round. Puddles is a great tallent, no way he was bad enough to have been eleminated this soon. I agree, do not give them the power over you.
Hey there. That one guy who watches your videos. It is a great time to be able to put your talents into to world’s eye and be appreciated openly and on the artists terms. Talent shows thrives in an era before technology provided everyone the opportunity to platform and network without limiting contractual obligation/stipulations. Cheers on all of the success and blessed timings you have had. Watching your content has been quite a journey. Cheers to this and many, many more!
Great advice♡ Grow at your own speed. Stay original!☆☆☆♡♡♡♧♧♧
Good on you both for exposing them.💝
Well done. Look forward to more collaboration between you two.
I knew there had to be myths involved with these shows, but I still enjoy watching the talent & following them after the show.
So you're in effect enabling the shows to take advantage of artists. I'm not gonna tell you what is right or wrong, but people need to be honest with themselves about the impact of what they do, watch, spend money on, etc.
@@Asshat237 A talent show used to be just that. The public watches for entertainment, nothing more.
@@MrJohnw2454 so if I push my air conditioner out my window and it crushes someone, no big deal, right? I did it for entertainment.
@@Asshat237 No comparison. When someone goes on a talent show, they know the pros and cons or should. Things aren't always fair and square. Many of the acts benefit from just getting the exposure. They often show up somewhere.
@@MrJohnw2454 did you even watch this video?
An let's face it , I'm 62 yrs old an at this point in my life I'M LIVING DOG YEARS here..lmao no time to learn everything besides stoned an old not good learning environment butt good for me lmao
That all really sucks! It’s a wonder they can even get artists for these shows! I listen to your music on Amazon. Spontaneity is everything. Those moments serve to endear the Artist io their audience.
I went to college for commercial music and media. My teacher Mr. Anderson, a trombone player, educated us on the shady nature of the entertainment industry, broke down all our copyrights, contracts, licenses, and pretty much shattered all the dreams of his students who thought they would have a career in this industry. It's corrupt, and the laws are barely catching up to protecting artists. Songwriters and original works are either ignored completely, or they try to devour you and possess you. All recordings are digital now. The warmth to the music is less and less. Now we got AI making art images... i just don't see a happy future for humans entertaining other humans. It's sad, but there's far more restrictions in this industry than any other. It's a cult in my humble opinion. Grammy U recruits new members out of the college ranks each year....
This is what happens to Dimash in the world best. It's a disgusting vulture culture. Glad it back fire on them, and their gone now. While the talent Dimash is bigger than ever
Psychologically those type of shows demotivate young people who now think they can never be as good as contestants.
Your humor absolutely makes me laugh out loud! PLEASE, do another video! Yeah, my mind went there, too!!😁
Yes...followup definitely...these kids need to hear from experience...if I were actually talented, I would have signed my life away for a Trans Am and a new Harley...teach them well sensai...
Great advice coming from two very handsome gentleman. Thank you .☺️🌷🎼
So watching this was very enlightening. I'm a 50 something DJ/karaoke guy. I loved to sing. But over the last three years because of COVID, my health and old system. Which was top notch in the 2007-2016 era but now not so good. Even tho my makes are cool. (They don't make them anymore. Fire at factory.) So plus my voice isn't as strong as it used to be. But anyway, I'm thinking of doing a TH-cam show for older people to watch. Please let me know how to do it. If I can make a little bit of money singing karaoke songs by overweight people. Maybe I can help encourage others like me to sing. That was my greatest joy. Watching someone who was self conscious and watch them blossom in one song. Made my day.
Love learning new things I have a MOTO I take everywhere!! in whatever I'm trying to learn, I MIGHT SUCK TODAY BUTT SOMEDAY I WON'T..
I used to believe that about myself but at my age I'm beginning to realize I might just suck forever
yes! do a follow up! i know you can't get the into the dark side of the music business on this platform. just like Hollyweird's dark side of the movie/ TV business. i really feel for these talented singers on these shows who want fame so bad and i know how much it will cost them in the music industry. much better to follow your advice. Taj Farrant is doing his own thing with his dad as manager and is doing well, as an example. keep playing and doing your thing. Both of you rock. 💗
Thanks for the heads up.... Really appreciate the information.
By the way really love you both contents man
Thanks for sharing your experience and teaching the young and dumb as it’s the only way we grow old and wise! Respect 💯👌🏼👍🏼
Hey Juan 👋🏽, being from the moon I understand universal contract negotiations.
I also have transfer of immortal soul forms if anyone is interested?
damn David and Sean~ Just think of how many bubbles y'all have burst in the world of produced Talent shows. True talent... true artistry... is the culmination of unharnessed passion of your expression... whatever the talent may be! 💯
All Sean and David did was shine a light on some quicksand and say, Hey. ya'll, don't step in that, here's how you step around it." For new talent, how cool is that?!
This extremely important to pull the band-aid off the infection of fake musical talent shows. Its not about being real it about setting up a fake environment that people find entertaining. Its like a beauty contest in which the which is proclaim the most beautiful person in a state, country, or world. Yea like they compared them to every person in the world to determine it. Its all about money and fantasy entertainment in the most wrong way where the person that is proclaim by the producers in the background and the judges are charged with making that choice look like theirs and is real. Its pretty ugly. Maybe you should pull questions out of the comments and do a show of taking the questions and answering them. I really like this show. Breaking the chains of illusions (name of a old book) is a to get to what is real and really valuable like you guys. Thanks!
Talents shows are a business & like EVERY business is "Run for Profit" where the worker (the talent) MUST be paid less than the worth of your product so the company can make a profit. Simon Cowell would not be making all these shows if he wasn't getting richer off of the blood, sweat & tears of the people that go on these shows. While the best might get a contract & make some money most will get nothing & for "Entertainment Value" talentless performers will be aired so they can be mocked for the amusement of the viewers & l feel genuine sympathy for them as they go home broken & dejected instead of encouraged to continue trying in a more realist way, ie street performance, community shows or hospital/retirement shows.