Martin Miller's 21st-Century Picking Mechanics
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 พ.ค. 2016
- ➠ Join the Cracking the Code Community: troygrady.com/join/
➠ Browse our products & free downloads: troygrady.com/store/
➠ Head to the forum for questions!: forum.troygrady.com
---
Martin Miller's futuristic blend of pickslanting and crosspicking gives him cyborg-like alternate picking ability.
You can find both our interviews with Martin Miller here: troygrady.com/interviews/ - เพลง
Another incredible video!!!! Thank you all so much, as always, you're truly changing the face of guitar instruction.
+Ben Eller As usual you are too kind. ...but don't let that stop you!
@@troygrady l
Ben your lessons are gold as well
instablaster
Fact🔥
“The sheer lack of mistakes in the vast majority of the examples Martin played is a testament to the wide margin of error that his technique clearly has.” Excellent description. Thanks, Troy.
Holy crap, I've been practicing this for about two hours now and my playing has improved more than it has over the last 5 years. This shit is amazing. Thanks for these videos!
plus he is a composer, producer, improviser, sings,... All with excelency.
Unbelievable technique!!! Been practicing it for 4 weeks, and it really allows for near-impossible mechanics. I can now pick the end of the cliffs of dover intro without using finger-picking; just amazing.
Been a huge fan or Martin's for years now this was so cool to see
holy shite balls i know you
These videos have been invaluable for me in developing my picking technique, and approaching practicing exercises and licks from a completely different perspective. Cannot thank you enough for the work you're doing here!
Love it. Its interviews like this, and of course your magnet, that give me more insight than any other picking tutorials. His method works beautifully on two-note per string sequences.
Fantastic. These videos have changed my life, Troy. Thank you for all of your work!
Man, that is just kick ass! I'll be joining Cracking the Code today. Thanks, Troy!
Very interesting and a true testament to how phenomenonal Martin is! It would be awesome to watch something similar with Guthrie!
Troy you did it again! Thank you for for introducing me to this amazing player. And thank you Martin for sharing your secret sauce.
Thanks for introducing me to Martin's playing! Hey Troy, I'd love to see Rick Graham under the scrutiny of the magnet cam.
Hopefully by now you've encountered some of his band vids where they tackle Queen and Pink Floyd material. Insane.
The production of this video is top notch. Very fine and instructional. Thanks
Fantastic look into his mechanics. Great work as always Troy.
Beautiful video! This type of content is paving the way towards mastery. Sending love!
your videos are awesome! This Channel is so underrated it really deserves to be more recognised
it's interesting at 2:10 the way troy's fingers end up under the strings. it was the old MAB video that got me experimenting with three finger anchoring to enable a DPS (upwards escape) that basically lead me actually tucking my fingers under the strings to develop an inward/outward motion. i can now DPS/UPS without anchoring... but every once in a while i'll feel my fingers grabbing the bottom sidewall of the tray-style bridge of my tele. I'm naturally an UPS and can now just as easily DPS (Thanks to Troy and MAB), but the Andy Wood vids got me "re-embracing" my UPS mechanics for many things. I guess it's "keep everything on and the table and do whatever works."
YESSSSS! He may not be as known as these awesome fellows you usually frequent, but I really hope you can go into the details behind Rick Graham's playing. He is INSANE as well
Holy cow, that was one in depth video! Awesome content!
Sick! I came up with this concept a few weeks ago as an idea, just not practiced it much yet, and miller is amazing at it! Im blown away
This was nothing short of incredible to watch, thank you Troy for a fantastic video!
Those arpeggios from The Glass Prison are incredibly hard to play. The first time I heard them I was blown away. Rewinded and listened over and over. After a while I actually thought John Petrucci played them somewhat, well, not sloppy, but almost a bit behind the beat on certain passages. I double checked with live performances and Petrucci plays the arpeggios differently, sometimes with some sweep picking involved - and not very tight at all (we can lower the playback speed on youtube to 0,5x). You can hardly blame him, it's so fast. But the fact remains, Martin Miller is able to pick every note and through these techniques (that he is aware of) he plays the arpeggios more accurate than the original artist.
A true guitar technique engineer I would say. See the problem - apply techniques - solve the problem. Incredible.
+Jonatan OTW Great comment. If I can add anything it's that I don't really believe so much in "hard" any more. It was "hard" to cure Polio before we knew what caused it, because we were essentially trying things that had no reason to work in the first place. The same would be true trying to play Yngwie with no knowledge of techniques like pickslanting. When you see someone like Martin, who can play these kinds of lines all day long with very little effort and a very high expectation of accuracy, what this really means is that he's found a way of doing it that makes them easy. All we have to do is figure out what it is!
+Troy Grady Very true! Thanks again.
+Troy Grady Yet we still live in a musical world where the dominant culture says "just keep practicing until you figure it out." Boggles my mind how so many guitarists (and even instructors) adhere to tenets that would be rejected by instructors in virtually any other domain. "You want to learn to program in Java? Just keep typing until you figure it out..." "You want to learn violin? Here's you're instrument, go experiment on your own until you find a technique that feels right to you..." "You want to learn to box? There's the ring, get to learnin'..."
+severalpaperclips Sad but true. Let's do our best by trying to change that, Troy's videos is a huge step in the right direction for guitar education.
Gotta agree with you, that has been bugging me for ages. Some people are lucky to just stumble across things, while others need specific guidance. Citing famous players as examples cause they claim to be self-taught is silly, because they are exceptions to the rule. If someone struggles with picking it's not because they lack the requirements to do it, but it's because they're using the wrong mechanics.
An instrumemt like the violin or piano is largely figured out and standartized, which is why music schools and colleges are having a much higher success rate when it comes to bringing forth virtuoso players. Hell, that even goes for classical guitar!
And like Martin, I never once put thought into "picking technique" up until a few years ago. 7 years of trial and error gave me a very similar picking style to his. I started out playing bluegrass with some older people when I was about 13. That's where my crosspicking abilities came from. I also spent a lot of time playing acoustic guitar and arpeggiating notes. I actually learned to arpeggiate notes before I ever started strumming chords. I never put much thought into inside vs outside picking, economy vs alternate, etc. I just played it the way it was easiest to play. It takes a lot more energy to play this way, but it's what is easier for me. Nice video. Thought I was the only weirdo.
simply amazing, thanks for these videos Troy, the best chanel on youtube
Not one time was the pick grip discussed - how tight he’s grasping the pick itself. Some people hold it very stiff and drive the pick through the strings but others let it move around a bit. This makes a huge impact in picking speed and articulation.
Very enlightening video! Bravo! One factor maybe I just havn't heard is how tightly one holds the pick. It looks to me like Martin lightens up on how he holds the pick when applying more crosspicking.
Incredible and astonishing! Fantastic job in making this video!
Love your content, it's been life changing as a guitarist! Might I suggest to go interview Wes Hauch as he's not only a staunch believer in what you've discovered, but he teaches it really well (and is one of the cleanest sounding shred monsters you'll hear..... like every not is just crisp and articulated so perfectly).
He puts SO much work into these videos!
How good can a video be? This is a real content creation masterpiece!
This video and Martin sharing this is sooooo awesome! Thank you
Brilliant. Another great discovery Troy. Funny you helped him discover his own technique! I always learn a lot from you and your guests.🖖🏼
Excellent video once again Troy! I can't tell you how many players I have turned on to your videos. And Martin so such an incredible player. This video affirms what I have been thinking about all of this… that mastery of cross picking is really where it's at. And this is because it removes the limitation of adhering to pick slanting rules and allows you to be ready for practically any melodic passage. Between Martin, Steve Morse, Albert Lee and the bluegrass players I think it's obvious that getting cross picking up to a high speed reaps the most rewards.
+Ben Butler Exactlly.It just gives you total freedom.
And one more thing.Tone.Alternate picked(cross picked)one note per string
lines just sound more dynamic(better)in contrast to flat sound of sweep picking...despite what someone(even Troy)is saying
+Ben Butler There is no question that crosspicking adds another layer of superpowers to what we can do with picking. But Martin is also equally reliant on pickslanting, and uses both systems to varying degrees for different licks. The Glass Prison example we look at here is just one of those, which is very clearly a 2wps lick where pickslanting makes some of the crosspicked string changes easier. The many ways he tackles pentatonic licks in the interview is another good example. They are sometimes uwps, sometimes dwps, and often with a little crosspicking movement baked in. It's very hard to call them one or another. No question this makes summarizing and teaching what he's doing a little harder. But Martin himself is a pretty analytical guy so hopefully he'll be able to shed some more light on this as he becomes more conscious of these movements.
Fantastic video and observations of a phenomenal player. Thank you TG and team, regards! Jz
This is so nice to see. Somewhere along my learning path I naturally became an MP extender, and before I saw this video I thought I was going to have to try to unlearn it in exchange for the other techniques you describe. It's nice to know that I accidentally developed a superpower that I can keep and now use to greater effect!
Thank you Mr troy for your awesome research and sharing with us....
Very important to mention is his use of the whole arm for string placement, like Steve Morse does.
It is the combination of the whole thing together: Shoulder, arm, wrist, fingers.
Wow! This is pure inspiration! Thanks Martin and Troy. :)
Again Troy, thanks for this. Not only is the presentation entertaining but the scientifically analytical angle you take from a mechanics standpoint is really appropriate and needed.
And kudos for throwing Dream Theater in there :D. Would love your take on Jari Maenpaa's odd 4-string sweeps and the like in Wintersun, though it's probably something you've covered already.
Great musicians as always, Troy.
1) I hope there will be studio albums with great compositions, that will deploy fully Martin Miller's or Marshall Harrison's great talents.
2) I feel that one day you will be interviewing Yngwie himself!!! A cycle will close.
Been a fan of this dude since the Petrucci Forum was a thing. An amazing player and a good dude.
Another great episode - thanks Troy!
These categories sound like bizarre insults: "Eric is a downwar pick slanter" hahaha great video man!
Hshahhahaha true
Hi Troy, I didn't read the fine print and sent you a private message. Oops. In any case, the issue I was having being a cross/alternate picker for 30 years and always hitting the 'speed wall' has finally opened up. I had never consciously thought about pick slanting. Each technique you bring out in your videos adds to a versatile arsenal of possibilities. As one example, I worked out my diatonic descending fours just adding an upward pick slant on the 1st note of each group and that unlocked my right hand. It also makes it effortless to vary the accent on each beat. I could go on and on talking about how these techniques are so simple yet often elusive. Suffice it to say THANK YOU, Troy for sharing your mastery and passion, and giving me a key to something I've been trying to do for a long time!
hey troy. I just wanna thank you. about a year ago I already had an understanding of alternate picking (or so I thought). but early last year I decided to really devote myself to studying the technique as it was a hurdle I had reached but not yet crossed in my mind. long story short one year later I am applying concepts I encountered in your videos to 4 note per string diatonic scale patterns (and the poptarts lick) and consistently reaching well over 20 nps . thank you for your insight and time and effort. I never would have been able to apply my actual potential picking speed to actual licks had I never encountered pick slanting.
I'm a cross alternate picker too. And one thing that would be worth mentioning is how hard/soft to hold the pick. It makes a huge difference. And also how far back/forward on the pick one could/should hold to allow natural tilt (Or slant as you call it) I had to figure that out for myself. And yes it's a very individual thing, but a good starting point never hurt anyone. And again Troy, very entertaining video! 😉
Martin Miller is one of the greatest guitar players of this generation. One of my favorite episode(added to my Fav list) Amazing Job Troy.
i'm happy to discover I've been doing that MP motion forever without knowing it was a thing
Troy... as usual, excellent work...your contribution to the guitar community is immense.
Having purchased both the 'Volcano' and ' Anti-Gravity'....
+Dinesh Veliath Doesn't Antigravity kick so much ass it's ridiculous? Glad it came out within my lifetime.
+severalpaperclips : very true.... i remember back in the day...when i used to watch the likes of Yngwie , Marty shred to heaven and back....and wonder "how do these guys do it"?!!
kudos to you Troy...u have removed the 'physical' block between creativity and expression
amazing work Troy! It would be great to see more international players in the series ( of course when logistics allow ) One player comes to mind from Brazil: André Nieri - another monster.
Excelent video! Thanks Troy!!!
Hi Troy. Big fan of both you and Martin. I am a subscriber of MiM. I watched this interview many times, and what I actually found was Martin's arm motion played a major role in his technique. His hand/finger movement is very small comparing to Steve Morse but he can still do cross picking. From what I saw, Martin uses his arm to compensate his hand/finger motion (Is this called tracking in MiM? I forgot.). I tried it and it was very effective to me.
Gotta say, you have the greatest guitar video/lesson/tutorial ever!
Guthrie Govan next !!!!
That would be awesome.
please no
That would be pointless.
Guthrie picks a small fraction of his notes and his picking technique is really simple braced economy style. He's all left hand
James Rockford fuck you, he is the best guitarist
How the hell Troy has only 100K subs?!?!?!?!?! This channel deserves at least a 1M.
An honor to study with such a gifted player and instructor that is Martin Miller!
Thanks man,great video!!!
fascinating, great work very illustrative!
Hi, Troy Grad. I think a missing component/topic in the series (I think I understand why) is the amount and kind of pressure you apply to the pick (usually wuth thumb and index). Here we see Martin Miller is lightly holding the pick, so the pick flops considerably. The physical sensation and proficiency can change considerably based on that said pressure (or lackof). Another thing the series might have missed is discussing a bit of the pick themselves: calibers and types. Your videos are awesome, thanks!
Pure gold at 4:30!
You're videos are really setting a new standard in the study of the picking mechanics! Keep up the good work Troy!! :)
Great video. Thanks!
Wow what an amazing video! Thanks
great lesson thank you troy and mark
Awesome video.. I can't imagine doing any of this without Jazz III picks though. Those picks changed my playing forever.
+Lukesifer sixsixsix I find that for one-way pickslanting, virtually any pick will work. But for two-way pickslanting, the sound of my attack on my secondary slant really suffers without a sharp pick. But for me the prescription is the Jazz III XL, only downside being that the nylon is less grippy than I'd like. I used the regular black stiffo Jazz III for a couple of years, but I've come back to preferring regular-sized picks. I've got to track down some Tortex Jazz III XLs to see if they give me the best of all worlds...
That lick at 10:00... Holy fucking fuck.
that's the main melody of "tumeni notes" by steve morse
9:58, the way he executes "tumeni notes" of Steve Morse, this is mindblowind
On a more primitive level I can relate to this. I started playing when I was 15 without any guidance from anyone yet I developed pretty good alternate picking skills. I could (still can, it's like riding a bike) quickly run the major scale up and down in different ways and people were easily impressed by it. Unfortunately I lacked the ear or talent to play anything else so I ended up with a nice tone and the ability to play along with simple music using single notes but never developed a broader understanding of music. I think had I been better in understanding the musical language, I would have developed my playing further and the fingers and picking would have followed. That just falls into place automatically if it is the most effective way to play something, it becomes like walking. Finger movements get linked to musical phrases in your control system after being repeated a number of times. Typical in this regard is Yngwie, when asked about his right hand technique his answer was "I don't know, I never looked. I just knew what I wanted to hear". I never knew what I wanted to hear, I just went through the motions and sometimes I was like "O, that's cool!". At age 54 I know that is not the way. I acknowledge that sometimes you need to be shown the basics to get you on the right track but I am skeptical about the usefulness of all this to the typical guitar student.
Holy shit!!! This is happening to me, thank u for the advice
You need to check out Dave Disanto of Vektor. He has a very unique picking style. It resembles "snap picking" or "circular picking" but it uses a LOT of thumb snapping.
Would love to see Andy James on here!! Show us upward pickslanters some love! Great interview Troy!
Amazing video, bro! Thanks for the care to explain the technique.
I'm pretty sure Gus G does this too!
One of a kind
It's so strange to se this motion. It looks like pick is moving too away from the strings in unefficent way. They always tell you in order to be able to shred high speed you need to make your movements as small and as economical as possible. Great video!
Best episode yet
Martin's picking reminds me a lot of Kiko Loureiro's (ex-Angra guitarist/current Megadeth guiarist)
I'm sure he does this 'Miller Picking'
+Paul Farrell I agree! Probably he does. Also, would be interesting to analyse the whole mechanics Kiko uses.
Ex angra?
+Onkel Bin yer :s He's officially left Angry, hasn't he? The guitarist from Almah has replaced him right? I'm sure I remember Rafael posting a statement that Kiko has officially left since he's in Megadeth.
Paul Farrell
:(, i thought angra took a break from touring, thats why he was able to make an album for megadeth.
+Onkel Bin Nope :/ Kiko and Rafael were a great guitar team too.
sick technique! and amazing analysis by Troy who, BTW is also an awesome guitarist!
Get Jason Richardson on here.
Or Sims Cashion or Rick Graham
I'd love a Rick Graham study. His sound is perfect.
Yes!
i have my doubts about Jason's teaching ability, but he is an insane player definitely
Cool ...you know SIMS!!!!
Dats ma BOIII!!!
@@unfetteredaxes1032 sims is everyones boi
I also love Martin's identifiable tone - warm and soulful.
What a beast of picker! I’ll never stop tell I’m as good as a picker like Martin!
Love that Ibanez. Bad ass player. Awesome vid.
Brutal gut!. Awesome. Thanks for sharing this. Very inspiring :)
martin is one of the best technical player of this generation, his picking stuffs are like a god level.....
Of all the players examined by Troy in my opinion Martin Miller has the best, most accurate picking technique.
With all the other players there will always be some accidentally hitting strings above or below the one that should be picked only at higher speeds, but with Martin this is never the case!
It has to be those extra small finger movements (thumb and index) which makes it so unbelievable accurate at those blistering speeds.
I'm everytime in awe watching it happen.
Just, WOW!
Man ! Your work is awesome. Thank you so much for sharing .could you study Jason Becker and make a video ?
this is the fucking best channel for guitar players who like to do the shits right....good job sir, and thanks you so much
Amazingggggg video. Deserves a million plus views. Was interested to know how he works palm muting into his picking
only 56k subs? you deserve 1 million!
Oh damn. I was naturally doing his kind of picking, except I was over tensing and assumed I needed to change the overall technique, but I guess I could've just relaxed a little and stuck with it ;)
Troy, thats amazing!
thanks!!! very nice video
This is brilliant!
Awesome video!!!
Great stuff! It confirmed my own opinion. I've been looking at Martin Miller and Tom Quayle picking for some time because we had a few lessons with both back on the DIME Guitar degree. I had notice it. Also, Troy, you know one guy that, IMO, does the same type of "finguer swing technique"? Daniele Gottardo and Govan too I noticed it because I had the privilege of sitting one-on-one the amazing Gottardo and I attended a few workshops and gigs by Govan. Is the "swing pick technique" a tendency for 2020!? Amazing work, keep it up pls! New knowledge is beeing created.
If Guthrie Govan is ever in your area you should totally do an interview. For the good of humanity.
Nape Star amen!!!
Wow, nice explanation.👏
This appears to be the thing I was missing in my technique that led to me giving up guitar 20 years ago. John McLaughlin was the super fast picker back in those days ... Whom I wanted to emulate and could never get it, so I moved on to other pursuits.
"Cascades: I'm not your lover" arpeggios - I try to play it 8 years and nothing!! max 130 bpm! And now I have a chance finally play it well)) Thanks!
I've watched most of your Masters in Mechanics videos and I've enjoyed all of them... What I find particularly interesting is that many of the players you put under the microscope have very different techniques, which shows that if you relax, make small movements, and really stick with a particular technique, almost anything can work (within reason)... By the way, Martin is from outer space - unreal.
+Monitor Lizard Music (Dan Johnston) With respect, I disagree re: "almost anything can work (within reason)". Even with the differences we've seen, there are profoundly important similarities among the players investigated. The only technique we've seen where pickslanting isn't a critical ingredient is crosspicking a la Steve Morse or Carl Miner. Martin Miller has interesting variations that introduce new possibilities, but his variations rely on the foundation of his intuitive mastery of pickslanting. I don't think either crosspicking or pickslanting are things that a majority of players figure out on their own, or in the case of pickslanting, many people might have a superficial idea of it but without unlocking the possibilities through the "escape hatches" of the Yngwie/Eric system. And as Troy has aptly observed, small movements aren't required to make one-way pickslanting work.
I understand what you're saying, but there was a reason that I used the words "within reason". I agree that all of the aforementioned details are definitely important, but if one plays in a relaxed, patient, and focused manner, often these things will emerge by themselves.. Many of the players mentioned had no idea what they were doing until someone had pointed it out. They were just playing how they play, and they are all amazing, yet all very different in their approach.. I also think it's worth mentioning that upward and downward pick slanting become much more important when someone already has a highly developed picking technique to work off of... Troy has been brilliant in his research and execution of this project. It's probably my favorite channel on the web.
This is the best made guitar video and I only just discovered it. Wow
These videos are genius, learn so much.
Wow, very insightful stuff