the rich, and for companies which have Tory shareholders. Invariably. It's not like the people who are actually suffering have to pay much tax anyway unles sthey make over a certain bracket (which she should have promised to raise the limit on)
The Tories are amazing! For their ability to find a regressively worse leader: from Cameron onwards I've wondered, could they find anyone worse? For their ability to foster myths: the party of responsible economic management, when they have borrowed more and paid back less than Labour, while forcing austerity. For the fact that people buy their trite slogans in spite of conclusive proof of their ineptitude and after suffering the resultant hardships. The fact that many people vote for them: I can understand self-interest but the fact that people support them through intellectual laziness or plain stupidity is alarming. Time to wake up and smell the coffee?
Yes but like... Labour is antisemitic (ignore that labour got more Jewish MPs, that most Jews are working class and would benefit from labour government, that the Tories are way more islamophobic AND antisemitic, ignore all of this) so the media claim, the media that is owned by the rich people who want more tax cuts, also the BBC news been sucking up to the Tories so hard...
As opposed to Labor where they wanna let kids transition genders, let every migrant in Europe waltz on in, and are deeply anti-semetic? Yeah there's a reason both the US and the UK have been systematically rejecting the left. Their policies don't work and the average working class voter in either regions just aren't having it anymore.
Yup, regurgitation, cant articulate very well and seems to pathologically lie / deny factual statements to maintain her image….remind you of anyone? Perhaps that blond haired buffoon leaving no 10?
I can't stand either of them but it baffles me that they'd choose Truss over Sunak. She seems genuinely dim and I can't see her successfully navigating through the coming issues very well, I feel like Starmer would have a much harder time against Sunak since he basically has the same grift (Nice suit, fancy hair cut and status quo conservative economics). I guess Conservative members are really dumb enough that if you say the words 'tax cuts' they'll vote for you.
Honestly, I can normally see people's motivations for both sides of any issue you care to mention: abortion, Brexit etc etc This leadership debate though - yeah, I've also got nothing but them doing reflexive seal claps for the words "tax cuts".
ngl this is the problem with 2 party states and i guess democracy in general. wanting your own country to tank under the leadership of the one you dont like to improve the standing of the one you do like is an awful state of affairs and it leads to very poor cooperation and more extreme ideological separation between parties as well as saboutage efforts like you see in the US with the dems supporting trump backed candidates over competent republicans for a hoped easier win. you should always be able to vote for the party you most believe in and see your country improve whether they win or not. compare germany and australia to the uk and us. its just not the same.
@@kevinh4869 Tfw you're to thick to realise that the Conservative members that vote for the leader have different priorities to the general population as a whole.
@DoomDutch Labour needs to be destroyed first, because their plans are even more moronic. When socialists are going to understand you need cheap energy first before getting common prosperity, then maybe they can make a chance. However, socialists most of the time only want populist wage increases while taxing the energy providers (which means they have less capacity to invest in increasing their energy output) which only creates more and more inflation.
@@kevinh4869 lol Kev you're on Copium thinking anything remotely good will come from Tories still being in power. Actually that's a lie my country will be free of the UK soon, so I'm all for Liz Thatcher. You also put Boris and woke in the same sentence? Hahaha nice typeo.
Tories will not win the next election with Truss as the head of the party that is certain. This is a mistake on their part, Truss’ debating abilities or lack thereof will exacerbate their chance to win again Starmer. Rishi can actually pull his weight in debating and has been generally charismatic in multiple instances, if his economic plans were to work out (which they are more likely to than Truss’ policies that borrow more from nostalgia than from realities) then the conservatives would most likely win the next election. But with the way this is turning out, it seems that sooner rather than later Labour will take power.
I can't see Labour winning an election for many years. They've won what, 1 in the past 50 years? Their social policies are simply very unpopular with the electorate. And Truss' plans on lower taxes will boost public support in general.
Neither candidate offers a solution to the cost of living crisis. They are a gang of sadists and charlatans. Both are inept; one is more vacuous than the other.
I blame Cameron...the ultimate aristocratic failson. A man who had so little business being in politics that he managed to utterly destroy an entire party and turn it into a rest home for the mentally diseased.
We're all focused on the cost of living with energy bills and difficulties getting on the housing ladder and she's complaining about farmers putting up solar panels...
Because she isn't going to win this by appealing to the general population. That matters next general election, which is a long way away. She needs to win over the Conservative party members - a population that is not at all representative of the country as a whole. She is saying the things that the party base want to hear: Woke-bashing, promises of tax cuts, and making fun of the left.
@@MosherMike she seems to be specifically against solar energy because solar panels "look ugly." and it doesn't really matter since the uk is screwed anyway, so might as well get the climate change denier supreme in charge.
I am not ready for 2 years of Maggie Thatcher 2.0....before the next election where she will ABSOLUTELY lose. I just hope that the opposition doesn't let this chance slip from their fingers.
@@ImmuneGEORGE Are they? Under the Torries we've had in the past 12 years about 3 risks of recession, the current one being extremely close. Rising costs of living to interminable levels, highest taxes we've ever seen with stagnant wages not marked against inflation (which is also on the rise under their leadership), a collapse of all social benefits and the NHS at it's closest risk of privatization it's ever been at since it's inception (which would throw millions of Brits into more debt if they actually had to deal with that), the most openly corrupt leaders we've seen in a decade with policies that only give them more power, influence and money funnelled into their pockets and pockets of their friends. Their climate policies being downright glacially paced and when not are just ludicrous buzzwords to try and gain favour (boris's 1 new nuclear plant being built per year until 2030 springs to mind). Scotland having thoughts of independence twice. Entirely upending the structure of the nation through Brexit that won a majority that would lose every single time if the vote was in the house of commons because it wasn't an absolute majority (meaning the margin was too small between aye and nay). And then they messed up the handling of the pandemic causing thousands of deaths, the current climate we're in now and still keep saying that this is the "best opportunity for our nation" despite being weaker than literally all the other EU member states are at the same time. After ALL that you still think the UK population is still preferring them over literally anything else? Labour's plan would be simple "fix all that shit". Their only slogan they'd need would be "we won't fuck up like the Tory's".
@@Mazder_Verhal I think they're both piss poor. I don't think Labour would do any better at all. My point is that the public have always preferred conservative values, and always will. The Tories are still odds on to win the next election. Half of your points are just stupid. We've just came out of a global pandemic and there is a war in Ukraine, if you haven't realised. The NHS will obviously never be privatised, it's ingrained in British culture and would be political suicide. etc. etc.
@@ImmuneGEORGE Yeah half those comments I made were set before the pandemic, or at least were present and contributed to the current problems by being the baseline for where we were. The rest were the direct influence of this government. The only thing outside of their control was the war in Ukraine and the virus's inception. Their responses were entirely in their control. Ukraine's defence and sanctioning Russian oil and gas (for which we barely use as a nation and can easily get elsewhere) would not have been as bad for us if the "low tax Tory" mindset was put in place and the fuel duties and taxes were slashed, but they didn't do that and even made a half measure that Labour has proposed to do better and they even only did it after being badgered for months on end to divert public attention from ongoing scandals. The NHS still desperately needs proper funding and to not be beholden to private companies as it is currently. But the Tories keep slashing it's funding, the "new nurses" being recruited included the number already on staff. Yougov polls right now suggest that the split between Conservative and Labour voters intentions are at C=33% L= 37%. Politico says C=34% L=39%. Electoralcalculus says C=31.8% L=40.8%. So I don't know where youre getting your polling info from but ever one I have seen has shown Labour being more favourable.
Modern politics have reached the point that the Backrooms have become lighthearted escapism for me. It's so much harder to deal with the reality of so many idiots voting for this absolute joker of a Prime Minister right after BoJo than jolly happy times like being chased by a screaming doodle monster through an infinite series of yellow rooms.
because truss' hopeless addiction to sycophancy will ensure that tory will push through ANY policy demanded by its corporate masters , no matter how ruinous, moronic, vicious, lawless, traitorous, lethal or myopic it may be.
I lean toward Truss as I think the end of Tory rule will arrive faster under her leadership. I would prefer a fast colapse to a slow and drawn out decline.
Sunak though it could win by talking like a Prime Minister ...to members of the Tory party. *FAIL* By the time he realised that Liz was playing as the home team, all the back-pedalling in the world wasn't going to save him.
The last bit, about the economy, highlights one of the more troublesome issues with democracy... if you let a bunch of people choose between magical thinking and economic realism, they'll pick the one that puts more money in their pocketbooks, more often than not. After all, there's no way that any significant percentage of the electorate will actually have the necessary background to understand whether lowering taxes during out-of-control inflation and a major recession is actually a good idea or not... so of course, they're gonna listen to the message that sounds sweeter.
"After all, there's no way that any significant percentage of the electorate will actually have the necessary background to understand whether lowering taxes during out-of-control inflation and a major recession is actually a good idea or not" Indeed, same applies to promises to increase pensions. Few pensioners see beyond the very short term and the impact this will have on a nation's future, they see the short term impact on their pension payments and demand that political parties provide this. Now consider the increasing weight and size of older demographics in most of the world and you have an extremely explosive situation.
@@perlasandoval7883 That is absolutely true... though, more specifically, democracy relies on an educated *and informed* electorate in order to function well. Hence, not only would a good democracy need a good education-system, it would also need a way to prevent the spread of misinformation, political propaganda and fake news - which is a tall order to say the least - AND the populace would need to actually be WILLING TO STAY INFORMED. I mean... educational standards aside, all the information IS out there, available for anyone who wants to read up on it. But nobody does - or at least, the MAJORITY doesn't, which is all that matters in a first-past-the-post election-system.
Literally everybody said whoever stood against Sunak would be the favourite. So fun all this is, Truss may well have hidden in a fridge. I think she has failed to loose against Sunak’s bloody hands more than turn the membership to her side.
RIP UK. The Conservative Party is faced with a choice, between getting the UK's public finances into a reasonable state, or pushing them further off the cliff... And so of course they choose the latter!
Tbf i think there was someone who put it best. Sunak broke your leg but he promises he won't break the other whilst Truss has yet to do you any harm but she promises to break your other leg
@@deadmanomegagaming4061 Yeah that would be correct if sunak caused the recession. The thing is he didn’t cause it. Covid, Brexit, inflation, supply chains caused the UK recession not sunaks policies.
To me Rishi seems incredible slimy. He’s in the same camp as Gove and Javid where it seems like they just say stuff to people to make them like them and then refuse to go through with any of it. Even though Rishi has changed his tune recently, I just don’t trust a word he says.
he also seems way more educated and intelligent lol. he also doesnt benefit from enriching himself very much. i would be more comfortable with an intelligent slimy person who will have a better idea what to do to keep himself and his party in power (involving improving the lives of those in the country) than someone who has no idea what to do who will be beholden to the interests of people who are in it to benefit themselves. truss will be a shambles almost inevitably, which will definitely get labour elected. hopefully if that happens, they will fix most of the terrible things that happened or will happen in the past few years and next couple. sunak might at least prevent some of those things from being even worse.
David Cameron created this whole mess with Brexit, listening to Boris Johnson and Farage and others from the right of the party then bailing out when he didn't win. If anything Theresa May is the most competent, or at least the most "honourable" from all of them (even with all her blunders with the brexit deal).
@@Daniboi971 yes she was the worst since Gordon Brown. Cameron and Boris had charisma. We tend to alternate between charisma and boring. It’s boring’s turn.
To be fair, there aren't many politicians in the UK who can hold a candle to Sturgeon. Neither rhetorically nor intellectually. And I say that as an outside observer.
Truss as politician is absolute 0 , Rishi at least knows the real picture and he much younger so he is not lacking understanding of how things work today ! Please vote for Rishi if u want proper changes in positive way , vote Truss and you’ll get classical Tory-swamp for a year or so without real changes !
We're so screwed! I'm probably a bit more screwed than most as I'm one of those evil trans women that Tories & our media hate. I'm so scary I've been attacked by random groups of men in public enough to have PTSD & agoraphobia. Whoever takes over out of these two it's gonna be a rough couple of years, Sunak wants to rob from the poor to give to the rich & Truss will just say whatever her crowd wants as all she cares about is being cheered (seriously, watch her face during older speeches before she learnt to hide how much her ego swells when people clap her!) . On the bright side, whoever gets in I can't see them winning the next election. Back to the downsides, most people have been conned into thinking that the only viable choice is between Labour or Tory (I've previously voted Labour, Green or Lib Dem in my life). As most will only think in terms of Lab/Con let's look at who'll currently be against a Tory MP. . . hmm, that's not filling me with hope, I looked over at Labour & saw Kier 'fence sitter' Starmer. So what does he stand for? That was a real question, what does he stand for? I know he's against Labour supporting unions, that's not a great look for the leader of Labour. About the best thing he's got going for him is that he's not a Tory. Now I want Tories out, I had my milk snatched, I was at school when section 28 came in (that was hell in the early years, even teachers bullied me), I really really want Tories out but I'd like to have some faith in who I vote in, Kier gives me no faith. I really hope Labour ditch him fast, if they did it now they could be ready with a new leader long before the Conservative party recover from all the inner division the last couple of months have caused. If I have to vote Starmer to help get Tories out then I'll do it, I'll just have a sour taste in my mouth
Yea, clearly race and colour isn’t a factor. It’s weird how the media was bashing on Sunak and making a fuss on everything about him, to the point where they even dug out things he said in the distant past. But on Truss, I’ve not seen or heard 1 single negative news about her. Weird isn’t it? She’s not even a sensible leader. Her stand on tax cuts look like bribery to win. Her speech on “opening up the pork market” was the dumbest shit I’ve heard. It’s really sad that once a country everyone looked up to is a joke. Pretty much a third-world country at this point. Energy crisis, inflation, poor healthcare system, political clowning, housing crisis and now a possible water shortage as well.
Hmm so even in a contest when MPs nominated 4 non white candidates out of 8, but one of those in the final two, and where members were preferred the female black candidate to either, you still see racism? Actually they have raked up her early political views on the monarchy, Lib Dem past; her affair with another MP, this supposed gaff speech in 2014, so I think they have been even handed, she has just dealt with it better.
The EU was your only chance to thrive and you lost it, dreaming about past times of british supremacy and getting tainted by the populist rethoric of leaders who didn’t even care about anything but their wallets. Now, the UK is, indeed, a country of a clowns.
@@leehallam9365 I’m not really sure whether Truss has “dealt with it better”, depending on how you define “dealing with it”. She has been “better” in the sense on blatantly lying or U-turning without ever acknowledging that this is what she’s doing, which is basically BoJo’s approach as well. Sunak seems to simply be much worse at this kind of barefaced lying and always starts stuttering and mumbling instead of just plowing on with the shameless dissembling. So, yes; if “dealing with it” means either pretending you didn’t say what you clearly said (i.e. lying) or just pushing on regardless, Truss, like BoJo, is better at “dealing with” her numerous issues than Sunak. Not that Sunak is much of a leader anyway, being willing to go completely off the right wing rails in a desperate move to win the “craziest Tory standing” contest that the leadership race quickly turned into. This simply shows that he’s willing to adopt any view that might help further his career, but since Truss has previously had her share of U-turns and continued with them during her campaign, it’s hard to say which one of them is the bigger opportunist.
It's no surprise really that the candidate promising tax cuts and committing to not raise taxes on large corporations is getting more favourable treatment from most mainstream media. It's clear who the private interests favour
Oh God! She seems even worse than Mr Sunak! Well - those 2% I guess are entitled to decide the future for all Brits 🤷🏻♂️ what a funny version of democracy! Lots of love from Denmark 🤗
If you went to the conservative members with a vote on ‘taking more money from young people and putting it towards retirement holiday funds’ you’d have a fun retirement.
It’s curious that tldr has completely skipped race as a possible factor here, despite the entire video being about discussing a set of possible factors that make truss more likely to win compared to sunak
her stance on the Gender Recognition Act, Equality Act and ECHR is genuinely terrifying she is going to make lives even worse for Transgender Britons and other minorities and yet she's going to be voted into power by less than 0.2% of the population meaning less people have a say on her becoming prime minister than the 5% of Britons who are Trans and will be seriously impacted by her policies.
Don't want to be that guy because you've got a point but there is no current data available on the number of trans people in the UK. Its currently estimated to be approximately 1% of the population including non-binary, still more than the amount of people voting for our prime minister.
@@kf-95 that’s official polling from the government. I and every trans person I know would not say we were trans on a survey it simply isn’t safe. When polls have been done my private groups admittedly this is only of under 25s they found it was around 10-12% were trans or some other form of gender non conforming. It’ll be slightly less due to people not being out or repressing particularly in the older generations.
Pre-Brexit Main message from remainers - "We need to maintain the status quo." Brexiteers - "People are struggling. We need to shake things up." Post -Brexit Liz Truss - ""We need to maintain the status quo." Tory voters - "People are struggling more than before. We're open to the possibility that politicians have something to do with this." Tory members - "People are struggling. We need to maintain the status quo." Economists - "Cost of living is high. This much be because people have too much money to spend, which is driving up prices. We can cool things down by raising interest rates to suck money out of the economy." Me - "Cost of living in the UK is through the roof. This is because the supply of goods has decreased, so competition to get what little there is is driving up prices. The energy crisis is exacerbating this as the economy runs on energy - higher energy costs means that everything else gets more expensive. Sucking money out of the economy will mean that there's less money to keep people employed. The UK must invest in renewable energy infrastructure to ensure energy security and stabilise prices, as well as create jobs. The UK must invest in its own production - more sustainable and stabilises prices. No one has to suffer - things can get better pretty quickly." Most of you - "tl;dr"
Can you even imagine picking a prime minister who makes you miss Boris? Perhaps this is the whole reason for choosing Truss? The way she lies and glibly contradicts herself reminds them of a lower rent and lower intelligence Boris.
There is one simple reason why Truss will win the Member vote - a reason that very few will admit to publicly. The spirit of Smethwick 1964 is still alive.
If that was the case Kemi wouldn’t have polled so well among Conservative members… Rishi’s optics aren’t good i.e. extremely wealthy tax dodger who raised taxes, recent chancellor and Bojo loyalists view him as a snake.
@@Daniboi971 fun fact: in the Victorian era, Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (the same guy who crafted for Queen Victoria the title "Empress of India", giving her imperial dignity on par with her European colleagues) proposed to move the imperial capital and the royal family from London to Dehli. To his vision, the British Empire was an Asian power more than it was European; India was its biggest and richest region, and the source of Britain's power, wealth and international prestige. The British Empire, more like the Indian Empire.
I think the biggest factor in this competition is Truss has simply understood her audience better. Sunak, with his financial realism and more left leaning policy, is I'm sure more popular in the country as a whole, but we don't decide who becomes PM, a group of about 115,000 very right wing boris supporters decide, and they see truss as a continuation of boris' leadership, one of the only tories who stood by him until the end, whilst Sunak is forever known as one of the leading figures in boris' betrayal. Sunak did eventually realise how right leaning the tory members are, hence his sudden flipflopping and that whole culture wars rant he put out, but all thats done has solidified (perhaps deservedly) his reputation as an untrustworthy political animal. Not that I think Truss is really any different, but she has just played this much better, and obviously has always kept in mind that when the chips fell, it was the tory members, not the general public, that she needed to appeal to.
@Utabain I dunno, 5th strongest economy in the entire world is still pretty rich if you ask me. In the sense of the nation, the people in it though, not so much.
@Utabain True, but then their bills are usually a lot higher in some cases too. it's all a balance. But I agree that the UK population are not as well off as they could be.
Either way, we were screwed. Neither her nor Rishi have a CLUE how to handle the electricity crisis, let alone run a country. They're deluded as eff, living in their bubbles, oblivious to real people's struggles.
Federalism could have saved us. But remember guys Westminster knows best. Sure we lost an Empire thinking people didn't need more representation but it's okay it won't happen with our own country.
Truss is genuinely embarrassing, I just hope labour can hold it together enough to make it to the next election because we need any alternative to this mess!
With how many Tory-leaning voters defend BS Boris, Lib/Labour are expected to be perfect to even be considered an alt option to them 🙈 It's like Conservatives can get away with 3-4 scandals for any Labour gaffe :/
I've voted for Truss, although it was a very hard decision and not for the right reasons. I'm waiting on seeing Starmer's housing policy to decide whether or not I'll be ending my membership and voting Labour on the next GE.
It's interesting that one potentially significant factor is missing here: Sunak's ethnicity. While race seems to be less significant in the UK than in the US, less-overt racism is certainly still widespread in the country. Most of the UK's bigots lean Tory, so is it really any surprise that someone of Indian descent wouldn't perform well due to the latent racism of this voting bloc within the Conservative Party? This probably isn't the main reason Sunak is behind, but it is a dubious proposition that racism plays no role within a party generally hostile to migrants (a la Channel-Rwanda Policy). Indeed, it is rather surprising that British Indians are so well-represented in the Conservative Party, but then again, voting for a brown person calling for immigration restrictions might make some prejudiced Tories feel good about themselves, since how could they be racist if they voted for an colonia- I mean British Indian politician. It's a taboo topic but an important one, at least in the post-Brexit content of xenophobic nationalism in England.
In my opinion, I feel if Sunak cared so much about getting Britain back on track again he would put in laws to prevent people having a non-dom status. But instead he is making everyone else pay those taxes. So basically as long as it doesn't effect his own pockets he's happy to make the British people pay
"Not discussing the issue and hitting back at the press for it being reported isn't really a winning strategy." That feels like an increasingly common strategy in the United States, and it seems to work well here.
...And the fourth is that she is white and that Sunak is of Indian descent. This is a right-wing party, even is not conscious of it, people will vote judging by people's appearance. You forgot that.
@@nathanfurnival8724 I beg your pardon?! I’m just puzzled as to why Dishi which has done a 3times better campaign than Truss, who is, I’m not afraid to say it, completely unfit to govern, still leagues behind.
@@miloPRcohen Ask the Tories then. Less bad option, not a 'snake' etc. The minority of overt racists who won't vote for a non-white person aren't swinging this like you're suggesting.
Like half their candidates were non-white, the tories are terrified of being branded racist to the point of immediately rolling over and shitting themselves the second you call them a bigot
It's because the MP's are sick of Johnson's non-Tory policies so her talking about tax cuts fixes that (even if it's completely fiscally irresponsible) and the members didn't want Johnson to go in the first place so they can play the angle that she was always loyal (even though she told him to resign as well) and overplay this entire traitor angle from Sunak even though he and Javid didn't co-ordinate it and it's clear that Sunak and Johnson are worlds apart on key economic decisions
Both are painfully inadequate, little better than Johnson, but Truss is making promises that will be paid by the middle and lower classes while her rich friends will toast happily.
Truss huh... Still coping on that British Empire revival... Well if she actually becomes the leader then we will see her attack EU by weakening Germany and so on...
Excellent presentation! Excellent analysis explaining why Truss has improved her position and why Sunak has not. I like also that I can see you speaking: that is an improvement.
Shocked I say, Shocked that White English people are failing to mention the REAL reason that Sunak was never going to win a Competition where those making the decision are White English people.... After all, many of those same White English people got their family wealth by NOT treating people who look like Sunak like Humans!
So this is what our friends across the pond went through in 2016. Out of the whole nation they came up with either Trump or Hillary as their best potential leaders?! I know its not a general election but come on!! We surely can do better than this? I don't like or trust either of them. I'd of liked to see Ben Wallace, I've only seen him a handful of times on TV and I dunno, He just seems more trustworthy than the other 2. A great shame he's not running.
i would raver have truss, only because at least what you see is what you get, you know she is evil, whilst sunak pretends to me nice and smarmy yet is actually evil
A video on the nature polling more generally would be good. Radio 4's More or Less has done somthing like this recently, so it would be intereting to hear your take on it.
One thing you don´t touch on in this video but, in my view, the most significant: Sunak has no chance as a brown-skinned person in a poll, essentially, of racist pensioners.
You don't have evidence to substantiate the idea that the reason Sunak is losing is because he's brown. It's much more likely the case that Sunak is more no nonsense, requiring austerity policies and tough economic reality, while Truss lives in fantasy land and wants to magically pull money from thin air, and people want to live in a fantasy land right now
Brilliant! 👏👏👏 Truss is a perfect candidate to continue the downfall of the British 'Empire' ! And looking at the track record of the British in their choice of leaders, they always manage to choose the leader whose best for the job to continue the downfall. So if Liz Truss is chosen I won't be surprised. Everyone knows Rishi Sunak is far better than Liz Truss on every spectrum of competency. Its as clear as day. Liz Truss is a joke, a really bad joke! But this election will expose the of priorities of the British - and if they can still make the right choice when it is as clear as day keeping besides all the differences and choosing competency over the 'British Entitled Nepotism' !
Sir John Redwood, Ms Truss's proposal seems to be at polar opposites to Sunak. To keep it simple, Sunak seems to favour 'handouts' whilst Truss favours tax cuts. If pensioners and the low paid do not pay tax or NI then how will Truss put real money into peoples bank accounts? This also includes those with private pensions and not yet on the state pension and do not receive any state benefits or reductions of any description... It assumes that these pensioners are below the tax allowance threshold (12570) for paying tax 2022/2023... So, my question is still simple. How will Truss ensure these voters and people of the UK are supported?
@@SirAntoniousBlock You really would like a common average man leading the country instead of a Oxford - Stanford graduate and Goldman Sachs alumni. Shows about how rarted you are. Not that Rishi didn’t come from an immigrant family anyway.
When they talk about "lowering taxes", why does no one ask them "lowering taxes _for whom_ ?"
This needs more likes seriously
Yes, and after over a decade of under funding essential services, how will they fund them? Oh right, they'll just obliterate them instead.
exactly
the rich, and for companies which have Tory shareholders. Invariably. It's not like the people who are actually suffering have to pay much tax anyway unles sthey make over a certain bracket (which she should have promised to raise the limit on)
Last i heard about them talking taxes.
Truss specifically mentioned CORPORATE tax.
Hmmmmm.
The Tories are amazing! For their ability to find a regressively worse leader: from Cameron onwards I've wondered, could they find anyone worse? For their ability to foster myths: the party of responsible economic management, when they have borrowed more and paid back less than Labour, while forcing austerity. For the fact that people buy their trite slogans in spite of conclusive proof of their ineptitude and after suffering the resultant hardships. The fact that many people vote for them: I can understand self-interest but the fact that people support them through intellectual laziness or plain stupidity is alarming. Time to wake up and smell the coffee?
I ask the same questions everyday 😂😂
Easier for the ERG to control
Yes but like... Labour is antisemitic (ignore that labour got more Jewish MPs, that most Jews are working class and would benefit from labour government, that the Tories are way more islamophobic AND antisemitic, ignore all of this) so the media claim, the media that is owned by the rich people who want more tax cuts, also the BBC news been sucking up to the Tories so hard...
@@LillyP-xs5qe very true. I also read many articles by Jewish Voice for Labour before the last election. Very revealing.
As opposed to Labor where they wanna let kids transition genders, let every migrant in Europe waltz on in, and are deeply anti-semetic? Yeah there's a reason both the US and the UK have been systematically rejecting the left. Their policies don't work and the average working class voter in either regions just aren't having it anymore.
She's winning because she doesn't care what she says and will be say anything no matter how stupid, wrong or incomprehensible.
Indeed - everything she's saying is playing to those who have a say in choosing her this time around.
Relatable
yep Boris 2.0
Sounds like Trump.
Johnson and Trump are identical except that Johnson still cared a bit what people thought of him.
Truss is too stupid to notice.
Truss’s speech is the best promo for public speaking courses
and staying in school
Trussmp Style?
I've aleays thought every word she says is an excellent advert for birth control.
@@RIPBlueInk works better than Priti Patel? We have competition!
😂😂😂♥️
Truss communication is improved in repeating the same thing, regardless of the question.
Agreed! It only gets worse!
Jokes aside, this strategy really works wonders... but only if you're a Tory member. Doesn't work on sane human beings
Yup, regurgitation, cant articulate very well and seems to pathologically lie / deny factual statements to maintain her image….remind you of anyone? Perhaps that blond haired buffoon leaving no 10?
Classic right wing politicians behavior (sadly)
I can't stand either of them but it baffles me that they'd choose Truss over Sunak. She seems genuinely dim and I can't see her successfully navigating through the coming issues very well, I feel like Starmer would have a much harder time against Sunak since he basically has the same grift (Nice suit, fancy hair cut and status quo conservative economics). I guess Conservative members are really dumb enough that if you say the words 'tax cuts' they'll vote for you.
Honestly, I can normally see people's motivations for both sides of any issue you care to mention: abortion, Brexit etc etc
This leadership debate though - yeah, I've also got nothing but them doing reflexive seal claps for the words "tax cuts".
It's not only just that, conservative members are racist. They would rather pick Truss - a white woman over Rishi, who is a brown hindu man.
They want the hot crazy lady not the boring accountant man
@@djtomoy Mate if you think Liz Truss is "hot", you've got problems no politician can fix.
@@tomgl6684 I want her to punish me 😈.... by destroying the economy and putting me out of work
It helps that her last remaining opponent, Sunak, is having a third act breakdown.
He's gone from courting the right of the Party to full FOX News neo-fascism
@@nickrobinson7096 someones been missing the show lol
@@nickrobinson7096 look at some of his policy announcements in terms of immigration and trans rights. He’s gone full culture war
@@SomeBritishGal1 Seems nobody's had the courtesy to tell him his skin's a few shades past gaining the vote of rabid fascists.
@@nickrobinson7096 he quite literally wants to criminalise criticising the UK
Having to choose the lesser evil, I'd rather have Sunak.
At least with Truss the Tories have even less chance to win the next election.
ngl this is the problem with 2 party states and i guess democracy in general. wanting your own country to tank under the leadership of the one you dont like to improve the standing of the one you do like is an awful state of affairs and it leads to very poor cooperation and more extreme ideological separation between parties as well as saboutage efforts like you see in the US with the dems supporting trump backed candidates over competent republicans for a hoped easier win. you should always be able to vote for the party you most believe in and see your country improve whether they win or not. compare germany and australia to the uk and us. its just not the same.
@@kevinh4869 Tfw you're to thick to realise that the Conservative members that vote for the leader have different priorities to the general population as a whole.
@DoomDutch Labour needs to be destroyed first, because their plans are even more moronic. When socialists are going to understand you need cheap energy first before getting common prosperity, then maybe they can make a chance. However, socialists most of the time only want populist wage increases while taxing the energy providers (which means they have less capacity to invest in increasing their energy output) which only creates more and more inflation.
And nobody wants inflation.
@@kevinh4869 lol Kev you're on Copium thinking anything remotely good will come from Tories still being in power.
Actually that's a lie my country will be free of the UK soon, so I'm all for Liz Thatcher. You also put Boris and woke in the same sentence? Hahaha nice typeo.
She is saying, what everyone wants to hear, not what is good for the country.
You know better right? 🤣🤣🤣
The Pork Markets bit is so reminiscent of Jeb’s “Please Clap” moment.
Her weird smile after saying that is hilarious
@@trees9363 smile of a narcissist.
Exactly my thoughts
I know, right! The second she said it I thought "Who the f*** cares about pork right now?!"
Her delivery is really awkward. But in fairness, it is somewhat ridiculous that we're relying heavily on imports for all those basic foodstuffs.
Tories will not win the next election with Truss as the head of the party that is certain. This is a mistake on their part, Truss’ debating abilities or lack thereof will exacerbate their chance to win again Starmer. Rishi can actually pull his weight in debating and has been generally charismatic in multiple instances, if his economic plans were to work out (which they are more likely to than Truss’ policies that borrow more from nostalgia than from realities) then the conservatives would most likely win the next election. But with the way this is turning out, it seems that sooner rather than later Labour will take power.
well said!!!
I can't see Labour winning an election for many years. They've won what, 1 in the past 50 years? Their social policies are simply very unpopular with the electorate. And Truss' plans on lower taxes will boost public support in general.
I see this as a small plus, the sooner tories are out the better
Thank god it's time Tories were kicked out
Neither candidate offers a solution to the cost of living crisis. They are a gang of sadists and charlatans. Both are inept; one is more vacuous than the other.
Imagine having a political party in such a state that Less Trust is the best option for leader.
I blame Cameron...the ultimate aristocratic failson. A man who had so little business being in politics that he managed to utterly destroy an entire party and turn it into a rest home for the mentally diseased.
is not like the other parties offer any better
There’s always lib dems… wait
@@ihatehandles3 of course they do. greens, libs, labour all vastly superior to these crooks.
I love the way she waits for applause, which sometimes slowly comes. 😆
Pork markets.🙂
Loll
and the look on her face as she waited was like 'Do I get a gold star now?'
@@xzaviayifu3581 😆 Yes, just like a puppy waiting for a pat.
We're all focused on the cost of living with energy bills and difficulties getting on the housing ladder and she's complaining about farmers putting up solar panels...
Because she isn't going to win this by appealing to the general population. That matters next general election, which is a long way away. She needs to win over the Conservative party members - a population that is not at all representative of the country as a whole. She is saying the things that the party base want to hear: Woke-bashing, promises of tax cuts, and making fun of the left.
She seems to be incompetent, greedy and malicious. A worthy new PM who will make the UK slide further into oblivion.
So...how is she any different to Sunak?
@@MosherMike she's supported by the extremist factions.
@@MosherMike she seems to be specifically against solar energy because solar panels "look ugly." and it doesn't really matter since the uk is screwed anyway, so might as well get the climate change denier supreme in charge.
yes lower taxes on the rich, that wealth will trickle down anyday now!
Yep. Annnyyydaaay now..!
I am not ready for 2 years of Maggie Thatcher 2.0....before the next election where she will ABSOLUTELY lose.
I just hope that the opposition doesn't let this chance slip from their fingers.
I highly doubt Labour will win an election any time soon. They've won 1 in nearly 50 years? Their social policies are unpopular with the electorate.
@@ImmuneGEORGE Are they? Under the Torries we've had in the past 12 years about 3 risks of recession, the current one being extremely close. Rising costs of living to interminable levels, highest taxes we've ever seen with stagnant wages not marked against inflation (which is also on the rise under their leadership), a collapse of all social benefits and the NHS at it's closest risk of privatization it's ever been at since it's inception (which would throw millions of Brits into more debt if they actually had to deal with that), the most openly corrupt leaders we've seen in a decade with policies that only give them more power, influence and money funnelled into their pockets and pockets of their friends. Their climate policies being downright glacially paced and when not are just ludicrous buzzwords to try and gain favour (boris's 1 new nuclear plant being built per year until 2030 springs to mind). Scotland having thoughts of independence twice. Entirely upending the structure of the nation through Brexit that won a majority that would lose every single time if the vote was in the house of commons because it wasn't an absolute majority (meaning the margin was too small between aye and nay). And then they messed up the handling of the pandemic causing thousands of deaths, the current climate we're in now and still keep saying that this is the "best opportunity for our nation" despite being weaker than literally all the other EU member states are at the same time.
After ALL that you still think the UK population is still preferring them over literally anything else?
Labour's plan would be simple "fix all that shit". Their only slogan they'd need would be "we won't fuck up like the Tory's".
@@Mazder_Verhal I think they're both piss poor. I don't think Labour would do any better at all.
My point is that the public have always preferred conservative values, and always will. The Tories are still odds on to win the next election.
Half of your points are just stupid. We've just came out of a global pandemic and there is a war in Ukraine, if you haven't realised. The NHS will obviously never be privatised, it's ingrained in British culture and would be political suicide. etc. etc.
@@ImmuneGEORGE Yeah half those comments I made were set before the pandemic, or at least were present and contributed to the current problems by being the baseline for where we were. The rest were the direct influence of this government. The only thing outside of their control was the war in Ukraine and the virus's inception. Their responses were entirely in their control. Ukraine's defence and sanctioning Russian oil and gas (for which we barely use as a nation and can easily get elsewhere) would not have been as bad for us if the "low tax Tory" mindset was put in place and the fuel duties and taxes were slashed, but they didn't do that and even made a half measure that Labour has proposed to do better and they even only did it after being badgered for months on end to divert public attention from ongoing scandals.
The NHS still desperately needs proper funding and to not be beholden to private companies as it is currently. But the Tories keep slashing it's funding, the "new nurses" being recruited included the number already on staff.
Yougov polls right now suggest that the split between Conservative and Labour voters intentions are at C=33% L= 37%.
Politico says C=34% L=39%.
Electoralcalculus says C=31.8% L=40.8%.
So I don't know where youre getting your polling info from but ever one I have seen has shown Labour being more favourable.
Labour is the master of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Modern politics have reached the point that the Backrooms have become lighthearted escapism for me. It's so much harder to deal with the reality of so many idiots voting for this absolute joker of a Prime Minister right after BoJo than jolly happy times like being chased by a screaming doodle monster through an infinite series of yellow rooms.
Writer should not be so self-centered that writer understand his or her writing better.
because truss' hopeless addiction to sycophancy will ensure that tory will push through ANY policy demanded by its corporate masters , no matter how ruinous, moronic, vicious, lawless, traitorous, lethal or myopic it may be.
Why or? I have full confidence the Tories will push policies that are ruinous, moronic, vicious, lawless, traitorous, lethal AND myopic!
It'll be 1950s Cuba, but 20 times worse. Expect there to be uprising and riots by next year
Liz Truss : we import so much food, that's unacceptable!
Also Liz Truss : *signs a ton of free trade deals*
I lean toward Truss as I think the end of Tory rule will arrive faster under her leadership. I would prefer a fast colapse to a slow and drawn out decline.
Agree. Rishi actually seems to know what he's talking about. Best to end it with Truss.
They are still currently odds on to win most seats at next election.
Interesting tactic. :-)
@@anand1kenobi356 Are you related to Sunak ?
True
Sunak though it could win by talking like a Prime Minister ...to members of the Tory party. *FAIL*
By the time he realised that Liz was playing as the home team, all the back-pedalling in the world wasn't going to save him.
The last bit, about the economy, highlights one of the more troublesome issues with democracy... if you let a bunch of people choose between magical thinking and economic realism, they'll pick the one that puts more money in their pocketbooks, more often than not. After all, there's no way that any significant percentage of the electorate will actually have the necessary background to understand whether lowering taxes during out-of-control inflation and a major recession is actually a good idea or not... so of course, they're gonna listen to the message that sounds sweeter.
"After all, there's no way that any significant percentage of the electorate will actually have the necessary background to understand whether lowering taxes during out-of-control inflation and a major recession is actually a good idea or not"
Indeed, same applies to promises to increase pensions. Few pensioners see beyond the very short term and the impact this will have on a nation's future, they see the short term impact on their pension payments and demand that political parties provide this. Now consider the increasing weight and size of older demographics in most of the world and you have an extremely explosive situation.
what we need is a more educated populace because democracy relies on education to survive
@@perlasandoval7883 That is absolutely true... though, more specifically, democracy relies on an educated *and informed* electorate in order to function well. Hence, not only would a good democracy need a good education-system, it would also need a way to prevent the spread of misinformation, political propaganda and fake news - which is a tall order to say the least - AND the populace would need to actually be WILLING TO STAY INFORMED. I mean... educational standards aside, all the information IS out there, available for anyone who wants to read up on it. But nobody does - or at least, the MAJORITY doesn't, which is all that matters in a first-past-the-post election-system.
Literally everybody said whoever stood against Sunak would be the favourite. So fun all this is, Truss may well have hidden in a fridge. I think she has failed to loose against Sunak’s bloody hands more than turn the membership to her side.
Lower taxes = EVEN MORE jobs lost, cuts to NHS, cuts to all other emergency services, cuts, cuts, CUTS!
Higher taxes = EVEN HIGHER price of Greggs sausage roll
@@faboolean7039 HORRIFYING PROSPECT
And more money for the tories donors the russians
The fact that brainlets want more taxes is horrifying.
We need to dismantle this bureaucratic leviathan. What has London ever done for me?
@@zaksharman until the gravy train derails
I can see starmer somewhere behind a lamp laughing maniacally
RIP UK. The Conservative Party is faced with a choice, between getting the UK's public finances into a reasonable state, or pushing them further off the cliff... And so of course they choose the latter!
Tbf i think there was someone who put it best. Sunak broke your leg but he promises he won't break the other whilst Truss has yet to do you any harm but she promises to break your other leg
@@deadmanomegagaming4061 Yeah that would be correct if sunak caused the recession.
The thing is he didn’t cause it. Covid, Brexit, inflation, supply chains caused the UK recession not sunaks policies.
Sunak betrayed the party. That's what it really comes down to. Betrayed Johnson. I never thought he had a chance of winning after that.
He's a snake and a backstabber.
Racist country
To me Rishi seems incredible slimy. He’s in the same camp as Gove and Javid where it seems like they just say stuff to people to make them like them and then refuse to go through with any of it. Even though Rishi has changed his tune recently, I just don’t trust a word he says.
he also seems way more educated and intelligent lol. he also doesnt benefit from enriching himself very much. i would be more comfortable with an intelligent slimy person who will have a better idea what to do to keep himself and his party in power (involving improving the lives of those in the country) than someone who has no idea what to do who will be beholden to the interests of people who are in it to benefit themselves. truss will be a shambles almost inevitably, which will definitely get labour elected. hopefully if that happens, they will fix most of the terrible things that happened or will happen in the past few years and next couple. sunak might at least prevent some of those things from being even worse.
Agree
Remember he was the dude who printed money like there was no tomorrow just 2 years ago and now he promises to repair public finances.
ok now people happy with liz then happy britain economy shrink more open pork markts haa good joking prime minister comedy gold
I'm glad it's going to be Truss at the helm as the UK slides farther down the socio-economic slope. That will be such an enormous boon to Labour.
Labour needs to make itself electable first
David Cameron, decent > Theresa May, okay > Boris Johnson, terrible > Liz Truss & Rishi Sunak, terrifying.
I'd object against putting Cameron and "decent" together in a sentence.
David Cameron created this whole mess with Brexit, listening to Boris Johnson and Farage and others from the right of the party then bailing out when he didn't win. If anything Theresa May is the most competent, or at least the most "honourable" from all of them (even with all her blunders with the brexit deal).
We've had a piece of shit, a pile of shit, a tsunami of shit and guess what: there's still more shit to come!
Theresa May- OK? This is revisionism, she was terrible. Terrible.
@@Daniboi971 yes she was the worst since Gordon Brown. Cameron and Boris had charisma. We tend to alternate between charisma and boring. It’s boring’s turn.
If she debated with Nicola Sturgeon she would be taken apart and likely left weeping.
To be fair, there aren't many politicians in the UK who can hold a candle to Sturgeon. Neither rhetorically nor intellectually. And I say that as an outside observer.
Sturgeon is just another Farage though. Good debater, absolutely backwards politician.
Perhaps this has something to do with her saying she's going to "just ignore" Nicola Sturgeon completely, branding her an "attention seeker", lol
It's always difficult to debate a populist like Sturgeon.
Truss as politician is absolute 0 , Rishi at least knows the real picture and he much younger so he is not lacking understanding of how things work today ! Please vote for Rishi if u want proper changes in positive way , vote Truss and you’ll get classical Tory-swamp for a year or so without real changes !
We had Sunak in charge of the economy already and he made no real changes. Either way its a clusterfuck of government
They prefer truss because she is
White. That's why they nitpick everything
@@renegadepuppy @FPUCKTRUSS
Is it just me or does the Tory party seem to emulate the Republican party in the US?
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪🇪🇺
Absolutely. They are even importing the concept of "culture wars", which is stupid in a UK social environment IMO.
@@ElHipokondriako exactly, as polling shows that almost nobody gives a toss about the well...toss the Tories are spouting.
100% correct
Not quite as bad but they’re on their way.
Ha ha, no. The Republicans over there actually cut taxes. Tories are ideologically the same as Democrats. We have no right wing Parties in the UK
We're so screwed! I'm probably a bit more screwed than most as I'm one of those evil trans women that Tories & our media hate. I'm so scary I've been attacked by random groups of men in public enough to have PTSD & agoraphobia.
Whoever takes over out of these two it's gonna be a rough couple of years, Sunak wants to rob from the poor to give to the rich & Truss will just say whatever her crowd wants as all she cares about is being cheered (seriously, watch her face during older speeches before she learnt to hide how much her ego swells when people clap her!) . On the bright side, whoever gets in I can't see them winning the next election.
Back to the downsides, most people have been conned into thinking that the only viable choice is between Labour or Tory (I've previously voted Labour, Green or Lib Dem in my life).
As most will only think in terms of Lab/Con let's look at who'll currently be against a Tory MP. . . hmm, that's not filling me with hope, I looked over at Labour & saw Kier 'fence sitter' Starmer.
So what does he stand for?
That was a real question, what does he stand for?
I know he's against Labour supporting unions, that's not a great look for the leader of Labour.
About the best thing he's got going for him is that he's not a Tory.
Now I want Tories out, I had my milk snatched, I was at school when section 28 came in (that was hell in the early years, even teachers bullied me), I really really want Tories out but I'd like to have some faith in who I vote in, Kier gives me no faith.
I really hope Labour ditch him fast, if they did it now they could be ready with a new leader long before the Conservative party recover from all the inner division the last couple of months have caused.
If I have to vote Starmer to help get Tories out then I'll do it, I'll just have a sour taste in my mouth
"Inappropriate gaff-prone communicator?" - Boris Johnson's base readies their vote.
I hadnt that old clip of her looking like a weird amateur, so thanks for including, her pause and smile are so creepy
Yea, clearly race and colour isn’t a factor. It’s weird how the media was bashing on Sunak and making a fuss on everything about him, to the point where they even dug out things he said in the distant past. But on Truss, I’ve not seen or heard 1 single negative news about her. Weird isn’t it?
She’s not even a sensible leader. Her stand on tax cuts look like bribery to win. Her speech on “opening up the pork market” was the dumbest shit I’ve heard.
It’s really sad that once a country everyone looked up to is a joke. Pretty much a third-world country at this point.
Energy crisis, inflation, poor healthcare system, political clowning, housing crisis and now a possible water shortage as well.
This was honestly just a test to see which the Tory base are more of; racist or sexist?
Hmm so even in a contest when MPs nominated 4 non white candidates out of 8, but one of those in the final two, and where members were preferred the female black candidate to either, you still see racism? Actually they have raked up her early political views on the monarchy, Lib Dem past; her affair with another MP, this supposed gaff speech in 2014, so I think they have been even handed, she has just dealt with it better.
The EU was your only chance to thrive and you lost it, dreaming about past times of british supremacy and getting tainted by the populist rethoric of leaders who didn’t even care about anything but their wallets. Now, the UK is, indeed, a country of a clowns.
@@leehallam9365 I’m not really sure whether Truss has “dealt with it better”, depending on how you define “dealing with it”. She has been “better” in the sense on blatantly lying or U-turning without ever acknowledging that this is what she’s doing, which is basically BoJo’s approach as well.
Sunak seems to simply be much worse at this kind of barefaced lying and always starts stuttering and mumbling instead of just plowing on with the shameless dissembling.
So, yes; if “dealing with it” means either pretending you didn’t say what you clearly said (i.e. lying) or just pushing on regardless, Truss, like BoJo, is better at “dealing with” her numerous issues than Sunak.
Not that Sunak is much of a leader anyway, being willing to go completely off the right wing rails in a desperate move to win the “craziest Tory standing” contest that the leadership race quickly turned into. This simply shows that he’s willing to adopt any view that might help further his career, but since Truss has previously had her share of U-turns and continued with them during her campaign, it’s hard to say which one of them is the bigger opportunist.
It's no surprise really that the candidate promising tax cuts and committing to not raise taxes on large corporations is getting more favourable treatment from most mainstream media. It's clear who the private interests favour
Oh God! She seems even worse than Mr Sunak! Well - those 2% I guess are entitled to decide the future for all Brits 🤷🏻♂️ what a funny version of democracy!
Lots of love from Denmark 🤗
If you went to the conservative members with a vote on ‘taking more money from young people and putting it towards retirement holiday funds’ you’d have a fun retirement.
It’s curious that tldr has completely skipped race as a possible factor here, despite the entire video being about discussing a set of possible factors that make truss more likely to win compared to sunak
her stance on the Gender Recognition Act, Equality Act and ECHR is genuinely terrifying she is going to make lives even worse for Transgender Britons and other minorities and yet she's going to be voted into power by less than 0.2% of the population meaning less people have a say on her becoming prime minister than the 5% of Britons who are Trans and will be seriously impacted by her policies.
Completely miserable watching sunak and truss race to the bottom trying to appear more transphobic than each other.
Don't want to be that guy because you've got a point but there is no current data available on the number of trans people in the UK. Its currently estimated to be approximately 1% of the population including non-binary, still more than the amount of people voting for our prime minister.
@@kf-95 that’s official polling from the government. I and every trans person I know would not say we were trans on a survey it simply isn’t safe. When polls have been done my private groups admittedly this is only of under 25s they found it was around 10-12% were trans or some other form of gender non conforming. It’ll be slightly less due to people not being out or repressing particularly in the older generations.
@@kf-95 we are less progressive than more than half of Europe right now and we push ourselves closer to American nonsense every day
why should someone representing less than 1% take power?
you just made people like her even morep
I'm digging your hair in this one Ben. Good job.
TBH it is a disgrace about how much food we import; sadly since then SHE has gone on to exacerbate this situation!
Totally reminds me of that episode of The IT Crowd where everything with the Made In Britain sticker sets on fire lol
It's because Liz is appealing to the Tory membership and sunak is trying to appeal to the Tory electorate.
And in this contest, only the membership matter.
We're fucked
5:44 Conspiciously? Is that a portmanteau of conspicuous and suspiciously?
Britain will elect the Prime Minister it deserves - which is really sad.
You guys are missing another big reason why she's beating Rishi. Rishi has the wrong name, wrong color, wrong tax policy.
I knew this would come up
Pre-Brexit
Main message from remainers - "We need to maintain the status quo."
Brexiteers - "People are struggling. We need to shake things up."
Post -Brexit
Liz Truss - ""We need to maintain the status quo."
Tory voters - "People are struggling more than before. We're open to the possibility that politicians have something to do with this."
Tory members - "People are struggling. We need to maintain the status quo."
Economists - "Cost of living is high. This much be because people have too much money to spend, which is driving up prices. We can cool things down by raising interest rates to suck money out of the economy."
Me - "Cost of living in the UK is through the roof. This is because the supply of goods has decreased, so competition to get what little there is is driving up prices. The energy crisis is exacerbating this as the economy runs on energy - higher energy costs means that everything else gets more expensive. Sucking money out of the economy will mean that there's less money to keep people employed. The UK must invest in renewable energy infrastructure to ensure energy security and stabilise prices, as well as create jobs. The UK must invest in its own production - more sustainable and stabilises prices. No one has to suffer - things can get better pretty quickly."
Most of you - "tl;dr"
Good read. Definitely took a lot of effort.
Sunak made the same mistake Rory Stewart made; people don't like to hear bad news even if it's true
Does that mean: Sunak is is not lying enough ? OMG!
Truss is incredible. She has firm political opinions, and if they're not popular, she is happy to change them.
Can you even imagine picking a prime minister who makes you miss Boris?
Perhaps this is the whole reason for choosing Truss?
The way she lies and glibly contradicts herself reminds them of a lower rent and lower intelligence Boris.
There is one simple reason why Truss will win the Member vote - a reason that very few will admit to publicly. The spirit of Smethwick 1964 is still alive.
If that was the case Kemi wouldn’t have polled so well among Conservative members… Rishi’s optics aren’t good i.e. extremely wealthy tax dodger who raised taxes, recent chancellor and Bojo loyalists view him as a snake.
Good. We are a European country, not a province of India. Yet.
@@Daniboi971 fun fact: in the Victorian era, Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli (the same guy who crafted for Queen Victoria the title "Empress of India", giving her imperial dignity on par with her European colleagues) proposed to move the imperial capital and the royal family from London to Dehli. To his vision, the British Empire was an Asian power more than it was European; India was its biggest and richest region, and the source of Britain's power, wealth and international prestige.
The British Empire, more like the Indian Empire.
@@Daniboi971 would I be right to assume you voted Leave?
@@renegadepuppy Yes she is. UK is Europe. Europe is the only land where whites are native. Go back.
I think the biggest factor in this competition is Truss has simply understood her audience better. Sunak, with his financial realism and more left leaning policy, is I'm sure more popular in the country as a whole, but we don't decide who becomes PM, a group of about 115,000 very right wing boris supporters decide, and they see truss as a continuation of boris' leadership, one of the only tories who stood by him until the end, whilst Sunak is forever known as one of the leading figures in boris' betrayal.
Sunak did eventually realise how right leaning the tory members are, hence his sudden flipflopping and that whole culture wars rant he put out, but all thats done has solidified (perhaps deservedly) his reputation as an untrustworthy political animal. Not that I think Truss is really any different, but she has just played this much better, and obviously has always kept in mind that when the chips fell, it was the tory members, not the general public, that she needed to appeal to.
UK was a prosperous developed rich country until somebody thought french are taking a couple of fishes more from Bri'ish wo'ars
@Utabain I dunno, 5th strongest economy in the entire world is still pretty rich if you ask me. In the sense of the nation, the people in it though, not so much.
@Utabain True, but then their bills are usually a lot higher in some cases too. it's all a balance. But I agree that the UK population are not as well off as they could be.
God help us all if she is next prime minister 😱
What an exciting new season of Brexit: Battle for Northern Irland.
Either way, we were screwed. Neither her nor Rishi have a CLUE how to handle the electricity crisis, let alone run a country. They're deluded as eff, living in their bubbles, oblivious to real people's struggles.
Lovely to see that the Union is going to die at a quicker pace.
Can't wait for Scottish independence
Federalism could have saved us. But remember guys Westminster knows best. Sure we lost an Empire thinking people didn't need more representation but it's okay it won't happen with our own country.
Truss is genuinely embarrassing, I just hope labour can hold it together enough to make it to the next election because we need any alternative to this mess!
With how many Tory-leaning voters defend BS Boris, Lib/Labour are expected to be perfect to even be considered an alt option to them 🙈
It's like Conservatives can get away with 3-4 scandals for any Labour gaffe :/
I've voted for Truss, although it was a very hard decision and not for the right reasons. I'm waiting on seeing Starmer's housing policy to decide whether or not I'll be ending my membership and voting Labour on the next GE.
this is where thing will go from bad to worse!
7:37 In Liz we Truss
LOL
Especially considering one of the definitions of truss is "to secure tightly, bind." Welcome to your coming oppression!
It's interesting that one potentially significant factor is missing here: Sunak's ethnicity. While race seems to be less significant in the UK than in the US, less-overt racism is certainly still widespread in the country. Most of the UK's bigots lean Tory, so is it really any surprise that someone of Indian descent wouldn't perform well due to the latent racism of this voting bloc within the Conservative Party?
This probably isn't the main reason Sunak is behind, but it is a dubious proposition that racism plays no role within a party generally hostile to migrants (a la Channel-Rwanda Policy). Indeed, it is rather surprising that British Indians are so well-represented in the Conservative Party, but then again, voting for a brown person calling for immigration restrictions might make some prejudiced Tories feel good about themselves, since how could they be racist if they voted for an colonia- I mean British Indian politician.
It's a taboo topic but an important one, at least in the post-Brexit content of xenophobic nationalism in England.
FINALLY somebody said it
Don't most South Asians vote tory? Hell I'm aware the Pakistanis voted for brexit.
Tbf its not like Sunak is some progressive leader.
In my opinion, I feel if Sunak cared so much about getting Britain back on track again he would put in laws to prevent people having a non-dom status. But instead he is making everyone else pay those taxes. So basically as long as it doesn't effect his own pockets he's happy to make the British people pay
Not next maggie 😭
The polling was accurate in 2019, Johnson won by the expected margin.
Pork lol 😆
5:45 "conspiciously"? Let's go with "conspicuously.
"Not discussing the issue and hitting back at the press for it being reported isn't really a winning strategy."
That feels like an increasingly common strategy in the United States, and it seems to work well here.
"Give us one minute to talk about nebula"
* sneaks in a 2 min ad *
7:59 to 10:13 talks exclusively about nebula (and curiosity stream)
I wonder how Sunak would have done if he had the same sort of Norman ancestry as Penny Mordaunt?
He probably would be front runner by now
What colour is Norman ancestry?
@@brianlowe3529 Exactly. It's the elephant in the room.
...And the fourth is that she is white and that Sunak is of Indian descent. This is a right-wing party, even is not conscious of it, people will vote judging by people's appearance. You forgot that.
In your racist mind
@@nathanfurnival8724 I beg your pardon?! I’m just puzzled as to why Dishi which has done a 3times better campaign than Truss, who is, I’m not afraid to say it, completely unfit to govern, still leagues behind.
@@miloPRcohen Ask the Tories then. Less bad option, not a 'snake' etc. The minority of overt racists who won't vote for a non-white person aren't swinging this like you're suggesting.
Like half their candidates were non-white, the tories are terrified of being branded racist to the point of immediately rolling over and shitting themselves the second you call them a bigot
Wow 😲 you don’t beat around with words
Thanks TLDR News!
It's because the MP's are sick of Johnson's non-Tory policies so her talking about tax cuts fixes that (even if it's completely fiscally irresponsible) and the members didn't want Johnson to go in the first place so they can play the angle that she was always loyal (even though she told him to resign as well) and overplay this entire traitor angle from Sunak even though he and Javid didn't co-ordinate it and it's clear that Sunak and Johnson are worlds apart on key economic decisions
Both are painfully inadequate, little better than Johnson, but Truss is making promises that will be paid by the middle and lower classes while her rich friends will toast happily.
Truss huh... Still coping on that British Empire revival... Well if she actually becomes the leader then we will see her attack EU by weakening Germany and so on...
Excellent presentation! Excellent analysis explaining why Truss has improved her position and why Sunak has not. I like also that I can see you speaking: that is an improvement.
You missed the main reason the Tory membership are not going to vote for anyone brown!
Okay brown nose
Shocked I say, Shocked that White English people are failing to mention the REAL reason that Sunak was never going to win a Competition where those making the decision are White English people.... After all, many of those same White English people got their family wealth by NOT treating people who look like Sunak like Humans!
So this is what our friends across the pond went through in 2016. Out of the whole nation they came up with either Trump or Hillary as their best potential leaders?!
I know its not a general election but come on!! We surely can do better than this? I don't like or trust either of them.
I'd of liked to see Ben Wallace, I've only seen him a handful of times on TV and I dunno, He just seems more trustworthy than the other 2. A great shame he's not running.
But what about wider public?
As a non-British, I'm curious, who of them is more popular among all citizens and shouldn't this be consideration too?
i would raver have truss, only because at least what you see is what you get, you know she is evil, whilst sunak pretends to me nice and smarmy yet is actually evil
So your choice is someone who is evil, and someone who is evil but too stupid to lie about it?
You know what, fair enough.
How do you know he is evil
What's so wrong about exporting cheese? And even more weirdly... Why does she wait till the audience starts clapping? LOL
I shouldn’t laugh but it’s going to be hilarious under Truss
A video on the nature polling more generally would be good. Radio 4's More or Less has done somthing like this recently, so it would be intereting to hear your take on it.
7:33 in liz we truss 🤣
My initial gut says she is going to be a bigger clown than Boris
god help us all
If she was so popular, why she (Truss-113) got less votes of members than Sunak-137? And he was in the lead in each round.
Because the opinions of Conservative MPs (as is increasingly reflected in the outcome) do not really reflect the opinions of the Party membership
Intelligent MPs would not have given us these two choices
Soooo ...we're not going to mention the fact that Truss is the "right" colour for Tory Party members, are we? - that's not any sort of factor?
One thing you don´t touch on in this video but, in my view, the most significant: Sunak has no chance as a brown-skinned person in a poll, essentially, of racist pensioners.
Yeah it's actually just cos Sunak doesn't fit the Tory voter preferred aesthetic.
Y'know, cos like, y'all got some spectacular racists over there.
She promised tax cuts.
This is the most diverse leadership contest in British political history and the members preferred candidate was Kemi Badenoch you absolute melt
That's simply untrue. Watch the video, Rishi was actually far more popular till some recent scandals.
Not Tory voters: it's Tory members here, which is a specific subset of Tory voters
You don't have evidence to substantiate the idea that the reason Sunak is losing is because he's brown. It's much more likely the case that Sunak is more no nonsense, requiring austerity policies and tough economic reality, while Truss lives in fantasy land and wants to magically pull money from thin air, and people want to live in a fantasy land right now
But Rishi is Too Dishy for this Job
🏴 F The Tories 🇪🇺
Sturgeon is a 🤡
Karen brave heart cringe 😬
I'd be camping in a government building at reception desk for my heating this winter
Brilliant! 👏👏👏 Truss is a perfect candidate to continue the downfall of the British 'Empire' ! And looking at the track record of the British in their choice of leaders, they always manage to choose the leader whose best for the job to continue the downfall. So if Liz Truss is chosen I won't be surprised.
Everyone knows Rishi Sunak is far better than Liz Truss on every spectrum of competency. Its as clear as day. Liz Truss is a joke, a really bad joke! But this election will expose the of priorities of the British - and if they can still make the right choice when it is as clear as day keeping besides all the differences and choosing competency over the 'British Entitled Nepotism' !
They always manage to Choose the WORST 🤣
Liz Truss is the Best Option to Continue the British Downfall 👍👍
@Cool Waves Sarcasm!!!!
What I mean is people have become stupid enough to prefer incompetent Liz Truss over a much more competent Rishi Sunak!
@Cool Waves Of course, that's what I mean by choosing the worst,
Sunak is a lesser evil, Liz Truss is the Worst!
Sir John Redwood,
Ms Truss's proposal seems to be at polar opposites to Sunak. To keep it simple, Sunak seems to favour 'handouts' whilst Truss favours tax cuts.
If pensioners and the low paid do not pay tax or NI then how will Truss put real money into peoples bank accounts? This also includes those with private pensions and not yet on the state pension and do not receive any state benefits or reductions of any description...
It assumes that these pensioners are below the tax allowance threshold (12570) for paying tax 2022/2023...
So, my question is still simple. How will Truss ensure these voters and people of the UK are supported?
Sad to see that Sunak won’t win. He’d be a good PM
Yep, a billionaire who really understands the common man. 😂
@@SirAntoniousBlock You really would like a common average man leading the country instead of a Oxford - Stanford graduate and Goldman Sachs alumni. Shows about how rarted you are. Not that Rishi didn’t come from an immigrant family anyway.
@@keki4578 I'd rather a dead rat in the gutter than this lot of criminals.
Still don't understand how Liz truss won the debates...
She didn't win any debates