A Lever Action .30-30 Winchester Still the Best? Madman Review
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It is time to take a look at a gun that is a symbol of the Wild West and one of the best deer hunting rifles out there especially when it comes in .30-30 Winchester. Yes, it is the good old lever action that we all know and love from the good old cowboy movies.
The lever action rifles in .30-30 have been around for quite some time, actually more than a century. In their lifespan, this round shot from this kind of gun has scored more whitetail deer than any one of the other cartridges out there. Given this record, it is no surprise that it is very popular and will stay around for quite a while longer.
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The AR platform is the ubiquitous "scary, black rifle," but wherever some people want it banned, you could easily have a lever action rifle. They are arguably the world's first assault rifle, and greatly underappreciated.
If it's a scary rifle in black then get it in Coyote tan.
@@dannyn6558 go even one better camouflage it .
The great thing is you can top load a chambered rifle without removing the mag or chambered round!.
Tubular magazines can be continuously reloaded. With practice a competant rifleman can fire without stopping for 50 rounds or more.
@@magicdaveable I never thought about that !!
Still shooting my Winchester model#94 after 45 years! My meat gun... one and done...
This is from an Outdoor Life article:
30-30 is better than ever. The 160-grain, flex-tipped projectile leaves the muzzle at about 2,400 fps, yielding 2,046 ft-lbs of muzzle energy. Velocity remains high-2,150 fps at 100 yards, 1,916 fps at 200 yards, and 1,619 fps at 300 yards-and so does the energy downrange. The bullet delivers 1,304 ft-lbs of energy at 200 yards. And at 300 yards, it still has 1,025 ft-lbs-plenty to kill a deer.
The first gun I bought was a Model 94 in 1974. I worked all summer for it and even though I was 17, I just paid for it and walked out the door. It still looks and shoots great. Best 74 dollars ever spent. I love my Henry Lever Actions in .357 and .45-70 but the 94 is part of my family.
I did the same in 1980, but my brother had to buy the rifle for me. Up here in B.C., they were $300 or so by 1980.
That’s a great story. 👍
I bought my first Winchester 94 when I was 13 with money I made that summer bucking hay and on the farms. $95
Man I wish I was around when you get get a rifle and a 2 boxes of ammo for $100. Sadly I was born in 2002. When me and my grandpa were shopping for new guns he looked at the price tag on a henry 30-30 and lost his mind😂 telling me he paid $90 for his model 94
74$ sends pain straight to my soul
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30/30 Winchester is a superb caliber. It’s an expert’s stalking hunting round.
Also capable in many other rolls as well.
I’ve used them for well over fifty years now.
I'm aware of the benefits of the lighter polymer tipped spi=e pointed bullets, but the majority of .30-30 hunters aren't purchasing the ; ... others do .
From my experience because of less than optimal sighting, open sights or cheap scopes; are less than optimal. Lower magnification, heavy crosshairs and see through (under) scope rings all contribute. Sure you can put an expensive "fine" reticle on a lever .30-30, but @ what expense ? The money would seem better spent on a more efficient rifle. A hunter with more resources probably wouldn't choose a 30-30 to begin with, probably wouldn't "need" more expensive ballistic ammo and wouldn't be purchasing an expensive scope.
Many years ago, being a handloader; I acquired an H&R single shot Handiricle as a camp rifle and loaded .30 cal.- 130 gr. Spire points. Plenty of oomph for dispatching coyotes and other nucience animals two legged or four and enough for turkey of deer within normal ranges.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
Best bush gun for hunting in thick woods, where most shots are taken at less then 100 yds.
Got my first deer with a Winchester model 94 . When I was 13 , got my last deer with the same gun 2 weeks ago . And many in-between
When I got my .30-30, I was able to borrow a Winchester and a Marlin at the same time before deciding. I chose the Marlin.
I like both, but also partial to the Marlin. I have a couple old 336s, a .35 and. 30-30. Used to have a pre-64 Winchester but I sold it to a buddy who coveted it for some years. Theres just something about a lever gun......
Marlin all the way
For some STUPID reason, I have owned two Marlin 336 in the .35 Remington over the years and ended up getting rid of them. Then I decided 3 yrs. ago to get another one. However, I was having a hard time finding one. Instead, I ran across a deal one the Marlin in a 30-30. It was such a good buy, I could not pass it up. Now, in the past 3 yrs., I have put down 5 deer and all dropped in their tracks. Granted, 4 of the 5 were around 75 yds. away and I had relatively open shots. However, the 5th. one (2 weeks ago) was a real nice 8 point buck and he was between 125 and 150 yds. away, through fairly dense woods. When I fired, the only thing I could see clearly was the head and neck. He dropped with a perfect neck shot. Of course, I was proud of the nice 8 point buck, but I was more proud of the shot from that simple Marlin 30-30.
"Dropped in their tracks" is wishful thinking unless they are hit in the head or neck.
@@oldgoat1890 I have had a few "drop in their tracks" due to shots other than head or neck. Most were head on shots to the chest.
@@oldgoat1890 high shoulder shot will also drop them in their tracks. But you lose the front shoulder.
Gotta love that 30. 30. Sure love mine. That baby will always put meat on the table(or in the deep freeze)
You are correct. That was a stupid thing to do!
Saw a 94 at a used gun store...bought it...friggen love it!!! Blew up cans of water, hit open site targets that took a scope with my 30-06...light, small, easy to get ammo for....best rifle I've ever owned! ....and I've got a lot of them!!👍👍👍
Love my pre-64 Winchester 94.
I've got a Winchester, Remington and Marlin 30.30. I grab the Marlin every time. Much smoother operation in my opinion.
my marlin my grandpa gave me is so smooth and shoots true every time. easily one of my favs
They side eject too, i like that
Ought to try my Savage 1898. You'd never bother with any of them again
@@ranchodeluxe1 ive heard of a savage 1899
Yup. It's more likely I don't know what I have than that I fatfingered a smart phone key.
The Winchester model 94 chambered in 30-30 is a true legendary classic! I've used one for more than 55 years! It can take any animal on the north American continent, from deer, elk, moose, and bear. 170 grain Winchester PowerPoint, 150 grain Barnes TX, and the 190 grain Buffalo Bore. Hard working and magnificent cartridges!
My daughter In-laws great uncle during the 2nd world war would guard the Hoover Dam along with other's with their Winchester 30-30 rifle's against Japanese fighter's.
The Canadian "Pacific Coast Militia Rangers" (PCMR), requested .30-30 carbines as their service rifles during WWII. Most of them are Winchester 94's, but there were some Marlin 36's(not 336). I have 2 friends with the 94's and one with the 36
@@nathanadrian7797 yeah and a few people doubted me. Of course today their are better rifle's for the job, but the 30-30 is still going strong. I couldn't imagine shooting down a plane with one. But in war you do what you have to do. I carried an M16 and my son an M4, plus his Abram's M1 tank. He loved the 50cal, he told me he misses blowing sh*t up.
My dad's old Winchester Model 94 is still taking deer 60 years from the day it was made.
My 1894 is a little bit older than most. It was made in 1901 and my great grandfather bought it in 1902. It is chambered in 32-40. It cycles smother then my Marlin that was made in 1971.
It cycles smother .........as is expected, 69yrs. difference
@@herman5eight it's 69 years older
Wow. Awesome stuff
Congratulations. I envy you. I remember an article years ago about those old Winchesters & how smooth they were. The author wrote, "This is back when skilled gunsmiths worked cheap".
They HAD to hand-work the older rifles, or they wouldn't function. The advent of computerized manufacturing, stuff is easily precise enough to eliminate hand-fitting and working. You can still hand-work a modern lever gun, but it's not entirely necessary.
Marlin makes a pretty good one
Better than the Winchester….
Yeah , I prefer the Marlins.
My favorite if you ever see one is the Savage Model 99 .
@@garyquail4996 just got a Henry and it’s really nice
@@OhioGentlemenArms they are very nice but I've got one just for shooting rabbits and small game and have fun plinking and what I have to say is for the last of the American-made firearms that they action is so silky smooth that I think my next hunting rifle is going to be one chambered in 3030.
My real name is Michael McCluskey. I bought a Marlin Model 336W 30-30 rifle in 2012. I bought it as it has a side ejection port so I could put a scope on my rifle. The other 30-30 rifles had ejections out of the top of the rifle. Making putting a scope on the rifle would cause a jam trying to eject the spent cartridge.
Love my marlin 30 30
My son just picked up a Henry golden boy in 30/30 so I dug out my Winchester 94 and we went shooting yesterday and compared the two the Henry is a very nice shooting gun felt good in the hand's and very accurate but in my opinion nothing compares to a Winchester model 94 mine was made in 1927 and has no blueing left the stock has hundreds of scratches on it but it still cycles smooth and crispy and at a 100 yard's is Dead on.
I know what you mean, there are 2 types of lever guns, 1=Winchester---2=everything else.
@@nathanadrian7797 there's alot of very nice lever gun's that I would be very happy to own but in my opinion nothing else is a Winchester.
Thanks I have an old 30 30 and I can’t wait to use it
The old 30-30 is good within its range limitations, but I slightly prefer the .35 Remington, all other factors being equal.
people always ask whats the one guy you would grab to go, many say AR 556, I say one of my Marlin 336s , 3030 is accurate enough, handy and takes down any two or four legged animal in north america
My dad has one. He uses it for Caribou hunting
no longer produced but the savage model 99 was a work of art a shot great too. loved the unique cartridge counter in the oddly configured rotary magazine. just didnt want to carry it all day !!!
Dad and his brothers and father swore by them. 4 guns , all in .300 savage.
That is what my grandpa used we would set him up at the bottom of a canyon that we always pushed maybe two miles long he would just sit at the bottom and pick off several deer then the older people in camp would tag them I was only a young boy back then so I was in the bottom of that nasty canyon bushwhacking.
Ya. My 1899 carbine in 30-30 is money.
Pancho Villa's men carried Winchester 94 rifles with great success.
And so did Pancho Villa's arch enemies, the Texas Rangers!
TreeTop
Trienta y trienta
The 30-30 is an excellent brush gun.
I had a uncle who lived in interior Alaska off grid for 50 years. All he had for firearms was a 12 gauge, 22lr, a 44mag Ruger black hawk and a 1894 30-30. The 30-30 would not be my choice but it appears to have worked for him.
Classic fun outdoors man yes been shooting sixty plus years thanks
I own several lever-action .30-30s (both Winchester and Marlin) and prefer my Chiappa Wildlands lever-action takedown in .45-70!
I bought a Marlin 336 new in 1973, killed lots of deer no problem. Another great thing with the 30-30 ammo is it's available just about anywhere.
Back in 1973 you could still acquire a brand new Winchester Model 94 or Mar.in 336 chambered in .30-30 Win. for $ 49.95 and & $ 59.95 respectively or a used one for about $ 50.oo.
That used to be true. I haven't seen any on the shelves here in a while. Lots of 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62x55, 308, 450 Bushmaster, 350 Legend, and a couple of stray boxes of .30-'06.
@@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594 Shows us how worthless paper money is today, doesn't it?
My model 94 put down a mosey coyote just yesterday. There is a reason it is one of the rifles I have out by the doors. Still my favorite along with a model 92 in .22 short. I have owned more firearms than the majority of the population, the 30-30 is an icon and a great cartridge.
10” plate. At 330 yds all day. Open sights.
Winchester 30 30. Round tip bullet
I love my Marlin 336c.
Shells now $50+ a box. Ouch
Or $24 at Walmart
This guy sounds like the announcer from the old price is right show. “ Andy Jones… come on down. Your the next contestant on the price is right !”
No-one is hunting further than 200yrds unless your an ex sniper and a 30-30 with 190 gr. In that puppy you'll drop almost anything in the Americas.
Buffalo Bore 190gr using the Hawk bullet.
They will always be a place in my gun cabinet for a 30-30 mine will be passed down to one of my sons one day
I have a 1969 Marlin 336 and I'm in the process of pimpin' it with a modern mount and optic. The latest .30/.30 ammo is impressive and makes this caliber as relevant today as ever. The low recoil makes follow up shot super quick.
I had the Marlin 336 and always thought it superior to the more popular overrated Winchester.The action on the Marlin is much smoother in comparison
@@Hodado both are good guns and historic
A 7MM-08 makes a follow up shot unnecessary.
Round nose tips are excellent for slower cartridges, the wound cavity's are huge where the deer is hit (blunt Force trauma) 30/30 rifles are short range, it demands the hunter develop still hunting skills, which is a good thing. there's nothing like defeating the senses of a deer to get close for the Bag and tag........Deer jerky..........yum
Got 30 wcf. 26" octagon Barrell. Made 1907.great condition.
Velocity smelocity, for an overall round in timbered area a 3030 standard round is well within most ranges you're gonna shoot and the need for a scope, except in low lighting conditions, is nil. Going west or hunting a relatively treeless area where longer ranges are called for get a rifle for it, but where I hunt a winchester lever action 3030 in carbine configuration and a standard round is the best gun I've ever picked up.
Don't fix what ain't busted! I watched my older brother drop his first bull elk at 165 yds. with a 94 Win, shooting 170 gr. bullets
@@nathanadrian7797 it's a good gun. I've got other hunting rifles, both bolt and lever but I always reach for my old battle scared 94. I don't hunt much at dusk but a scope is handy in poor light conditions. The old 94 is just handy. I'm 68 and you could fill up a room with the number of deer that old gun has taken, most at ranges no more than 50 yards and most much closer. But it will drop them at 100 yards I know for a fact for I broke a running deers neck at that yardage. Luck, yes, but I think a lot of it was due just to the cartridge and to the way the gun handles. It's handy.
@@larryreese6146 I have no doubt that your shot on that running buck was 98% skill, luck doesn't usually play much of a part when a well used rifle is aimed at game.
@@nathanadrian7797 doubt if you will accidents do happen. Deer running straight out in the open over a pond bank. Pointed the bead on the nose and swung with the deer. Broke the neck. Course I'd already hit brush twice. I was 18 and still at home. From the back of garden to the top of the pond bank was 100 steps. Couldnt do it again if my life depended on it.
Don't really need a scope, but there's much better things in iron sights than the factory buckhorns. Try a nicely calibrated peep, and a night fiber optic front.
5:58 thats cool
It is pretty cool that a lot of the time you are showing a Marlin.
Most of the lever action rifles seen in westerns including those of John Wayne were not rifle cartridges like 30-30 Winchester but actually chambered in handgun rounds such as 44-40, 38-40, 45 Colt and a few others.
I still carry my grandfather's saddle rifle when I head into the outdoors. It is a Savage 1899 in 30-30 Winchester (or 22 Savage Hi-Power) which I have loaded with 150 grain XTP bullets. Imagine a saddle rifle as versatile as a modern AR-15.
I had 30-30 & 300sav in Savage lever action..My dad left them to me..I can't use alever action..So last year I sold both of them $500 for the 30-30 and $700 for the 300 Savage.But I still have a Modn170..Savage 30-30.this is my deer rifle..
MyFavorite Hunting Gun, merci.
I love my 45-70 and my 44 mag 30-30 is next on my list
Love a lever action rifle. Mine is a Marlin Mdl 30AW
Love my lever 30/30. It kills deer dead.
Gotta love the Levalution ammo!!
Was called the 30 WCF(Winchester Center Fire) first by Winchester but Marlin didn’t want to put their competitors name( or initials)on their rifles so they called it 30-30.. 30 caliber bullet pushed by 30 grains of smokeless powder.
An early model of computer disk (hardware) was called "Winchester".
Why?
It had dual 30 megabyte disks in a hermetically sealed unit. So 30-30.
Nothing more perfectly fitted together than this combo. 1873 Winchester with high powered scope attached. The true hunters weapon of choice!. Feel free to use that slogan? 😆
The true hunters weapon of choice!!
I like 30-30 Winchester but I like the 35 Remington much better because it's better in the brush and that's all we have unless you hunt the power lines then you need a 300 Winchester magnum !
I agree ,I have a 30 30 and a 300 weatherby for the reason you stated above ( wish I had a .35 ..... But the ammo situation)
Adequate penetration and internal hemorrhaging is what kills an animal. You can kill an animal faster with the high velocity, but both cartridges will accomplish exactly the same thing, so it's not quantifiable to deal with all the added cost, recoil, shortened barrel life, sound pressure of magnums. If you absolutely cannot get closer than 350-400 yards, then it's understandable to go with more power.
@@lifted_above
Evidently you've never hunted in the brush.
@@benjimenfranklin7650 Evidently you're assuming things about someone you've never met.
@@lifted_above
Anyone who hunts knows what a brush gun is. A 30-30 isn't a brush gun but the 35 Remington is so is the 444 marlin and the 45-70 government and so is the 450 Marlin
Sorry, Marlin takes the cake
Marlin 336C for the win. It feels right and has a good balance. Bought mine new in 1969, my first gun purchase. Killed many deer with it, used it as a saddle rifle and friends who borrowed it also had great luck. I let my daughter-in-law borrow it a few years ago and she got her first buck, a large 7 point. To celebrate her success, I gave her my 30-30. It was still in like-new condition even after all those years of use. I never cared for the Winchester with its top eject.
I prefer the Marlin levers.
The Henry 30-30 is the best without exception.
Except for the Savage 1899
Especially if you work for Henry or buy their products. Best without exception. Except when you own competitors' .30-30's then it's different.
For nominal shot up to 175 yards you can't beat a 30 30,,,on deer.
Better than the same rifle chambered in 44 mag if a person understands the bullet drop at that range?
"Nominal"?
@@filippocorti6760: I think he means “typical” or “usual,” but it was an unnecessary addition to his idea it seems to me.
Within 175 yards, you can easily take down a big moose with a .30/.30.
My first deer rifle was a Winchester 30-30. It was a nice gun, but not a great gun.
I sold it, and I wish I hadn't, because when I sold it, it was in MINT condition, but
I wanted more hitting power and better range. Still, would I buy another one now?
Probably not. They are too expensive and there are so many other rifles that
will outshoot the Winchester 30-30. It is now basically a "nostalgia" rifle now.
Yes, it is light, good looking, and has a great history.
Yes it does have a nostalgic aspect to it that makes it appealing but it is also very relevant for deer hunting still. Where I hunt in PA there’s no chance of shooting more than 200, which is perfect for my old man’s marlin model 30AW in 30-30. Killed my first deer with it this past season dropped her right in her tracks at about 75 yards. I love the gun and it’s perfect for how I hunt plus it’s super fun to shoot and looks badass
With the right man behind the trigger, a round nosed 150 grain round, and iron sights, that rifle is still good for 200 yards. That gun is the reason manifest destiny was so successful.
That's a very handsome rig
What is the 30.30 used in your thumbnail with the scope
I have the shortest legal Marlin 44 Mag with a red Dot and ihits has unless you shoot ar 500 steel it is Going Through. I spent years between Marlin and Winchester every Time i Bought one The other would release a shorted version so i Have the Marlin 1894 44 Mag. I hated Winchester when Marlin built a side ejector model with Pre Drilled Scope Ring Mounting Screws That did it for me.
I know very little about firearms, but the lever action rifle is way cooler and classier than the souped up military assault rifle lookin things. It's like a vintage Ferrari vs a new one.
They both have their pros and cons and there's no reason why you shouldn't own both either.
The majority of lever action rifles seen in cowboy movies were probab.y N0T .30-30 Winchesters. The .30-30 was the first bottleneck cartridge introduced just prior to the turn of the century; which would make them historically inaccurate for the time period.
Prior to the .30-30 lever action rifle they were firing, short, straight was revolver type cartridges.
RIFLE ESPETÁCULAR !
All I think about is Bravestarr the cartoon show I'd stay up and watch late at night
Very nice video, and at times you kind of sound like the guy that describes prizes during The Price is Right.
We need Ruger to start manufacturing the 336 dark as soon as possible. And more 30-30 ammo availability.
Per Ruger rep talking with Tom Gresham on his radio show, the new 336 should be on the market before 2022 fall hunting season begins. Probably incorporating the improvements made to the 1895 SBL (cold hammer forged barrel, standard style rifling, adjusted size forarm, forged receiver and lever, maybe helical fluted bolt, etc).
@@lifted_above that is cool to know. Don't think I can talk the wife into another gun right now. Just bought a low number Springfield M1903 today.
@@Catgat37 Based on the demand and pricing of the 1895 SBL since Ruger released them, I doubt the prices on the new 336 will be all that affordable either. Having more models on market will ensure the prices are a bit less crazy, but still. That 1895 has been going for 1500 to north of 2000 on Gunbroker.
@@lifted_above yeah, I figured that would be about the price. I still am curious.
It's blasphemy to put an optic on these rifles.
Like ALL rifles it has its place. The cartridge has its capabilities and limitations. Use the rifle in accordance with what the cartridge can do and what the shooter can do. We all know its not a plains rifle, but if you can stalk/ambush a pronghorn at 150-200 yds, then go for it.
Has anyone else experienced key holing with lever revolution bullets, I have a 1958 Marlin 336 C in 30/30 microgrove barrel. Shots most amo just fine but winchester silver tips also will keyhole, I reload and bullets mic to specs.
I tested several .30-30 hunting rounds years ago in a Marlin 336c micro-groove. The leverevolutions had the least drop over distance and the absolute worst grouping.
Sometimes I've heard that a primer change may correct that. I'm not experienced with reloading for microgroove barrels though. Good luck 👍
Wouldn't mind seeing some of the new AR heavy bullet loads into a lever action if possible.
Henry has them in 223/556!!
Called the ranger series
@@enricomandragona163 what about the 450 bushmaster or 350 legend?
@@Squishysforbreakfast no they don't . Alaskan lever guns has those caliber
Do you know how much is the gun costs
Marlin has side ejection.Can you put a scope on a Winchester? I think top ejection is a problem for scopes.
Pre angle eject off center mount or scout mount barrel
@Henry Payton Winchester is svelte marlin chunky both are good guns and historic
@Henry Payton both are good I've owned both
Yep, modern Miroku Japan model 94 runs a pre-tapped receiver and angle eject for scopes. Or you can just mount up any number of iron peeps, or a tang ladder style peep. It's every bit as versatile as a Henry or Marlin these days.
Winchester most elegant, smooth, and beautiful. Marlin #1 much stronger and more reliable.
Model 94's breaking left and right, just falling apart.
Winchester screwed up when they botched the rollout of the 307 and 356. These two were the best model 94s ever made. They were far superior to the 30 30.
Then marlin did the same 308 me 338me
Increased velocity in the same caliber isn't always "far superior". Adequate penetration and internal blood hemorrhaging is what stops any animal, and dead is dead, whether from .30-30 or .30-378 Weatherby. How much cost, recoil, reduced barrel life, sound pressure, flinching, and increased meat loss do you want to deal with?
@@lifted_above as much as my 307 will give me.
It may not be the best or may not shoot as far but for my purpose it is the beat and wouldn't use any other rifle period !
The 30-30 was always a 200-250 yard gun. The new ammo pushes it ps effectiveness out to 300-350 yards and makes is a slightly faster and more level shooting round.
Is that you Chef John?
30-30 tied with 25-35 for time of introduction. Both were "the very first."
38-55 is the parent case for 30-30. It's also a great round, running heavier slugs at lower speed.
150 grain Winchester Power-Points perform better out of my Marlin 336 than Hornady’s; buy two boxes men, unfortunately guns can’t speak (our language), so you have to shoot to find out what does and doesn’t work. (Did I mention they’re CHEAPER!)
The Marlin model 336 was a way better gun than Winchester
I have a Marlin 336 SC, anyone know what SC stands for?
Sporting Carbine. Neat guns. I have a Marlin 36, the predecessor to the 336, in SC configuration.
.223 is hard to beat for home defence.
The animation of a spinning bullet still attached to the casing is bothersome.
They Model 99 Savage is the best lever action rifle.
I find (Here in Canada) the 30-30 Winchester to be in a weird category. The people who have them, love them to the point they make them overrated. The people who use modern bolt action rifles (6.5 Creedmoor or 300PRC) will tell you they're obsolete and make them heavily underrated.
Not true. Henry Lever Action is almost impossible to find here in Canada.It's not obsolete by far. It's practical and historical.
Do you know what cartridge the 30-30 was derived from? Most people don't and have never heard of it!
.38-55 is the parent case.
@@lifted_above you are correct!
@@jonathanfrecking1210 I'm a bit of a nerd however.
Do I get a cookie? hahaha
@@lifted_above i don't have any cookies lol! There's nothing wrong with being a nerd.
I wouldn't say they are the best at anything but for the average person they will do anything that needs doin good enough
not anymore cant find ammo for it or pay a mad price for it online to shoot it
Question for you
I own a 1958 Winchester 30-30 that is in pretty good shape.
Would that be considered rare, valuable or collectable?
It was my dad's gun so I'm not planning on selling. Just curious.
Thanks
I have seen them sell for as high as $ 850.00, depending on condition.
First off there is no such thing as a Winchester 30-30, that's an ammunition. The riffle is the Winchester mod. 94. The Winchester 94 was a good design, but not the best. Marlin surpassed it in reliability, is more robust and the obvious solid top which allowed scope mounting. The Browning BLR and Savage 99 are better in my opinion. But the bottom line is that it comes down to personal preference, all will put venison in the freezer.
I'd still take a 35 Remington over a 30-30.
When is a good gun company going make us some new 30-30 bolt action rifles.
And maybe even a 30-30 pump action rifles!!
Both Savage and Remington have made bolt actions in .30-30W and Savage made a pump in .30-30W, in the past. You should be able to find them in pawn shops, now days. Hope this helps! TreeTop
edit to add: the bolt action Remington model 788s are still very desirable and therefore, pricey.
@@TreeTop1947 savage pump is pricey now as well 170 and 340 has gone up too
I have a Stevens 325-A. It's a bolt action 30-30. Stevens bought WW2 surplus machine gun barrels
after the war and made the 325-A. It has a contoured bolt handle. Looks very sexy. I like it better than my Marlin 336.
@@UPLINKUSA good gun for the money but sexy sexy c'mon it's so ugly it's endearing kinda like the usmc bulldog
@@UPLINKUSA good gun for the money but sexy sexy c'mon it's so ugly it's endearing kinda like the usmc bulldog
Not impressed with the Hornady ammo. Tends to fragment. My rifle groups the 170g round nose better. And, the deer die way faster after being hit with the round nose bullets.
Too bad they have become so expensive. They used to be one of the affordable guns.