MFG Crosswind Pedals - Guide and Review Noobifier
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Great review as always Noob. Much love from Croatia! :)
Spent two years in Bosnia. Zgon, TSG, Dravar, Zagreb, Split... awesome place
Wow, very cool, I was pleasantly surprised while reading your reply this morning :). I am from Zagreb myself. Love your content! @@NOOBIFIER1337
I served in IFOR 1, then SFOR 8 & 13. I was part of the reconnaissance squadron. We patrolled 1600Km every 9 days.
I just got the pedals. I have used the Simped Vario pro usb, CH and Saitek pedals. Crosswinds are by far the best one I ever used or tried. Slaws and Baur are full metal but not even close so adjustable and comfortable (and Crosswinds are much cheaper than those two). Milan is a great guy and he will help every and each of his customers anytime. He deserves all the praise.
Glad i got mine before the rush this will bring.
A couple of friends got me a set of these a little over a year ago, one of the best Christmas presents I have ever received! I regularly use them for Star Citizen, DCS World, and a custom profile in GTA V. I have even set them up as gas and brake pedals in a couple of driving sims. They are totally worth it, high quality, smooth operating, and comfortable.
Great review! I picked up a set of these about 6 months ago to upgrade from the T-rudder pedals and couldn’t be happier!
Been using mine since 2013 second gen. They are solid peice of gear
That is how I used to fly in SC when I had time to play. Hotas and pedals. Its the best!
I just received mine. Less than a week from Croatia to New England, US. Worth EVERY penny!
I am happy you are happy
Love these pedals. They've made it worth going back to an actual flight profile with yaw on the pedals. Toe brake options while in flight are available to re-bind however you want so that even with a cheap (use just T--Flight HOTAS X myself) I bound it in a way that allows me to have intuitive 6DOF. Eventually will upgrade that but now I'm in no particular hurry to do it. Went back to left-right joystick being roll and quit fighting my atmospheric flight bias. I am happy with it and looking forward to seeing how this will work with the new flight model but I think it can only get better.
Excellent review. This and your other reviews always help me narrow down my process for purchasing equipment.
Just got mine!! Butter smooth and nicely adjustable :) Nice review!
one year ago there already were better pedals on the market, hell the Thrustmaster TPR were already available when this video was made. Crosswinds are good, but pendular motion with no axial movement on the pedals, much better sensor and all metal construction makes Thrustmaster way better option at similar price and much better availability.
I own those. I have not possessed other premium quality pedals before, so I can't say they are the absolute best. But I can confirm everything you said. They are rock-solid, very adjustable/customizable and easy to setup and use. I never regretted buying them and still enjoy using them with SC and flight sims.
It’s good to see such high quality in their manufacturing standards. I wish everyone would hit that mark.
It’s clear that lots of R&D was expended.
A comparison review between these and the WinWing pedals (with damper kit) would be awesome.
This is a great review and after looking at all the rudder pedals, this review is leaning me towards the MFG Crosswind. Awesome product.
Great review of what looks like an outstanding product, thanks Noobifier!
Great review. I just bought the Crosswind v3 set, along with the damper, and can't wait to hook them up. I'm checking out every review I can find, mostly for tips and tricks. I've been using a cheap set of pedals, flying GA aircraft in MSFS for about a year now. I plan to start learning rotaries, and these pedals seem like they'll work pretty well for both typs of aircraft. I've been ignoring my DCS aircraft as I'm spending a lot of time in FS2020. But Microsoft doesn't allow fuctional weapons, and I'm starting to get the itch to blow things up again. 😛 The last time I flew a jet in DCS I used my TM16000 twist joystick. This should...ahem...improve things a bit.
Your video is very straightforward with no fluff. I like that. Liked and Subscribed.
By the way...NICE WATCH!
WOW... What a great and excellent video review, of the MFG Crosswind... well done, sir... well done indeed !!!
Just ordered mine and VKB MCG arrived last week after a very long wait!
I got the Version 3 Pedals today, can't wait to try then out.
Perfect timing! I am looking for one, thanks for another great video.
I think that you've given a fair review here. I've had V1's for about 5 years now. Great pedals! I also fly IRL and their response is very similar to real rudder pedals.
Mine are placed directly on the floor & my only slight gripe was the need to find a way to stop them sliding across the carpet, but winding the screws in the wall block parts right out did the trick. I also like the fact you can rotate the pedals to have a steep angle. This means my heels are only a few cms from the carpet and my feet are at a 50 degree angle, which keeps my calves stretched and more comfortable over long periods of use.
Would I buy another pair - without hesitation! Thing is, I'm very unlikely to need to do that as they are so well made.
Okay
Looks like an excellent product. I'm still about 2 years away from having the space to build (or should I say, be allowed to build) a sim pit. I will definitely be looking in to these at that time.
so, did the wife allow it? :D
is the hype real? Yes. I've had these for a few years as one of the first in NZ to order one. I would always tell someone to get a second hand set of CH/saitek pedals first to see if you even like using pedals at all. I would really love to know how the new Thrustmaster pedals stack up. Maybe you should ask them for a review set :D
I will look into it. They look super odd... Which usually means a bunch of R&D was put into them.
Man...this is a "must have"
Best Regards
I just got a whole sim set up for $60 and these came in that bundle thought it was a steal
Fact
Wow, I need to start saving my money...I definitely need a set up like that.
Im impressed by the CNC machining, at first glance it looked to me like anodised aluminium. Can imagine this composite material gives it a nice feel.
Looks great .... but needs more socks! Cat socks! In fact screw the pedals I want MOAR SOCKS!!!
I gotta have more cow bel... I mean Cat Socks!
Toe Socks!
Awesome video as always. Thanks for your insights.
Those look insane. And I understand why for the price. I’ve got some VKB mark IVs on the way. Clean, simple, all metal... and 2 NXTs. Can’t wait for them to arrive. Gonna put that new ultra wide to work.
I am a Slaw Viper man myself. If you want the best (and don’t mind paying a couple hundred dollars more), the Vipers are the best option.
It's official Noobs socks are hi-jacking his YT reviews!!!!
Nice review N00B! I look forward to having a setup like that one day.
The wider foot pedal range of this thing alone, makes me want it.
I use the plastic thrustmaster pedals, and they are almost uncomfortably close together.
None of the planes I've flow have them that close.
If I get to the point I'm using them in Star citizen, I'll give these another serious look.
I like these tech reviews you are doing. The sticks, throttles, rudders, and trackIR are all perfect areas for you to review. While I do enjoy the individual review videos of focused on a single product, I do hope moving forward you get enough support from the individual companies to allow you to do head to head comparisons.
I was planning to get TrackIR very soon (and use the discount offered in your review, thank you for that!), and was looking ahead to the next purchase, which needs to be pedals. I'm currently using dual T16ks with the TM FCS throttle as well (which is a surprisingly good/useful product for the amount of money I spent on it, might be worth a review from you as well), so the first step if I want to eventually move up to one of the premium flight sticks is settling the rudders. I don't like the idea of using the alternate rudder pedals on my throttle as so active a control, so I need rudders.
The 4 high end rudders are the VKB Rudders, the MFD Crosswinds, the new Thrustmaster setup, and the Viper. This order also happens to be their order of cost, VKB: @$220, Crosswinds @ $360, The new Thrustmaster set at $550, and the Vipers for $700ish. Personally I don't see going all in on pedals as the only difference (I'm told) is fidelity, and the VKB doesn't have toe-brakes, so I'm leaning towards the VKB. A comparison between the high end gear here from you would be awesome if you can manage to get the companies to hook you up.
As an aside, Thrustmaster at E3 showed some of their new products in their fresh focus from car sim gear to flight gear. They showed a new FA-18 replacement stick for the warthog, a USAF licensed headset, and the new pedals. In an interview the spokesman for the company made it sound like their would be something for the throttles as well, though I have no idea what he has in mind. Their plan is to focus on individual DCS modules and offer authentic pieces for each plane. I know VKB, is licensed with Heatblur to make an F-14 stick for their Gunfighter II base to support Heatblur's new F-14A/B module for DCS. Possibly more good stuff coming for all of us!
Stay tuned. I’m doing all of that
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Awesome, that was my hope!
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Oh, and you need brighter socks!
I will see what I can do. I am doing a review of my driving sim gear plus my last couple of videos were sponsored by VKB
Cheers, Mister Noob. Good info.
I got the BRD-F3, with both SU27 and BF109-F Einheitspedale. It's a full metal construction with rivets, and is certainly the very best set out there - better than the MFG Crosswinds. Unfortunately, they are no longer available, as the guy got hired to another company and moved away from Sochi. The MFG Crosswind now are the best on the market. If you want to get high quality pedals, get these.
Brd and slaw are much more expensive and out of reach for many of us...no comparison..
I always get this response. It's false though. I paid 257 EUR for BRD-F3 on today's price (279 EUR in Dec 2017), with both kinds of pedals included... it's 1 EUR more. *shrugs* Anyway, the Crosswinds are amazing as well. And the BRD-F3s are not available anymore anyway. MFG Crosswinds = best available to buy.
@@MrCatlolz Depends which type od slaw and BRD...maybe basic. Then again for EU buyers the VAT and shipping is crazy expensive additional cost...Also there is no store so the buyer is left with google translate communication with makers via forum PMs. No, thanks. Mr. Milan, the maker of MFGs is very responsive, he gives 2yrs of limited warranty and is very fast in responding via email. Usually he is very attentive so he will do everything to help his customers and he is constantly improving his pedals so now we have MFG V2 which has better electronics and more durable materials and springs.
It looks amazing, I need to start saving for them and also a pair of socks that you need for them (Blue Cat Superman socks)
They were a gift from my sister in law. She took a picture of my Sphinx Cat, Montie, from Facebook and had them made custom.
Very cool!! Thanks, Noobifier!!
I got myself these are great couldn't ask for better
Pedal to the space metal!
Those are made of wood.
Nice to know these exist!
Thanks for the review!
I've had my eyes on these for awhile. Glad to see your opinion on these.
How hard/easy was it to secure to the Monstertech frame? It looks like it's slightly bigger than the footrest support beams. Did you have any issues with the base sliding around when they are installed on the Monstertech frame?
gonna play SC with my plain old keyboard and mouse.
maybe after the release, i can pump the money i... "have left", because i dont shove it into CIGs as* anymore, to buy me some pedals, sticks and other stuff :D
until then: all goes to CIG! ^^
now i know whats available, and can plan ahead! :) thx for that
how do you manage all those controllers in windows? i have many and I find that it get messed up often. They have to be plugged in the right order, and still some game has controller issues.
Loving the Speedmaster!
It’s been my daily watch since 2014
Of course the hype is real its some amazing tech right here!
I have #3256 and I think its been over 5-6 years, just cannot remember. I adjusted my rudder and its great, but I tried to make the brake pedals easier to push down
by loosening the Allen key bolt near large spring and it did nothing, Could You help me on what to do please ?
I watched more of Your video and it answered my questions nicely, Thank You so much !!!
For the money compared to everything else on the market, they are the best price-to-performance flight pedals available. Yea, the hype is real my dude.
I know this is an older video, but would you recommend these for SC if I already have a hosas setup? Was thinking about these or the Vkb t-rudder since I really only need one extra axis. Although I know we always can use an extra axis or two with the addition of toe brakes.
Yes, get version 3 with the gas shock
Wow, the ability to customize is nice. and looks built to last.
With dual sticks that give you more than enough for 6dof, what do you plan on using the pedals for?
Yes the hype is real. I’ve had mine for a year now and they are hands down the best pedals I’ve ever owned.
Can not recommend them enough.
Really wanted a pair of flight pedals for SC, however I decided against it as for the cost it didn't seem you got as much compared to a joystick. I'll first focus on getting some quality joysticks before I consider pedals again as the ones I have currently are sub par.
I've had one for two years, really oustanding! goes with virpil ;)
Great info, thanks for the review. Are you planning on doing any setup/flight model customization videos around how you would use all the peripherals you have reviewed in game? I would love to see them all working in conjunction.
Glad to get your official take on these. They've been on my personal Star Citizen purchase roadmap for a long time. Does this mean you'll transition from your standing setup?
Thanks for trying products for the game!
No problem, I will never stop.
What kind of table/ stand are you using? Been looking at the crosswinds but don't know what I could put them on to achieve the angle yours are at or that I'd like beside on the ground?
For sure. This is mounted on a Monstertech MTS simulation rig. I do have videos on the platform
Thank you for the quick reply (: ill be shure to watch your video on it! Finding a good stand/table has been the hardest part of my dcs journey sofar
I really need that lottery win... 🤣
You may just have me there with all those degrees of freedom!
I loved my mfg. I do not have them anymore because I bought a pro flight trainer puma for helicopter and the set comes with helicopter pedals but I preferred the crosswind for anything else than helicopters. I miss the toe brakes as the pro flight trainer has not... Yet... But that will soon change...
What did you use for the construction of your setup, meaning the metal scaffolding?
Search Monstertech MTS
these may be my next rudder pedals that I will buy. currently using thrustmasters cheap ruddera. my biggest con with them is that the pedals are too close to eachother. these mfg's seem to be much wider :)
Decent pedals but not great. If you don't fix them in place, don't even bother, and same goes for Virpil pedals. TM are the best for non cockpit users that can put them against the wall, if not VKB is the way. You don't need wheel breaks axes, you have more room under the desk, and rudder axes does not push the unit away.
Well done as usual.
Looks good.. finally a set of pedals that won’t crush my balls cuz they’re so close
Thanks for your video- is there a noticeable center detent or is it smooth through the center position? Does it spring back to the center or stays wherever you leave them? What's the stock width of the outside edge of the pedals? (Trying decide between these and the Thrustmaster TPR pendular rudder pedals) Thanks for your feedback
There are a couple of cams that can basically eliminate the bump if you like. The spring can be set pretty slack as well while still working perfect.
How are they compared to the thrustmaster pendular ?
Damn! First time I saw them, they were at 220,- Euro. Worth every penny but Star Citizen was only a tech demo and there were no other games, that interested me. I damn myself I did not got them, when they first came out.
yes these are great, the TM Pendulum Rudder System is better though and quite more expensive for a reason :)
Must investigate
I'm very happy with mine as well.
Ordered one just now. Great review 👍🏻
Is that a custom made flight control stand? If yes, would like to know more.
It is made by Monstertech. It is a fairly complete sim rig
I really like this. It would be great for my DCS stuff. It looks more comfortable than my Thrustmaster pedals.BUT 256 Euro is still pretty expensive for any controller. I think most people would be better served by a good twist grip joystick and find better utility from that. If you have a mega budget then by all means have the best of everything. I cant really afford that :(
Nope....a good set of rudder pedals are light and day from a twist stick joystick and well worth the money
Daz Barnes I already have both. But for twice the price of my Thrustmaster pedals I'll probably pass for a simple upgrade. 😀. But a nice new vkb Joystick that I can get behind 😀. I like but don't love my Warthog.
@@silentone11111111 I highly recommend the T50 Mongoose Virpil base. You can directly connect the Warthog stick to it
Daz Barnes I,ll give that a look. Thanks 😀
Would you advise these for roll and accelerate/decelerate? Using duel sticks now, want to add it bit more.
I plan yaw. Don’t know what I want to do with toe
I know you normally use dual sticks to fly, do you also like to use pedals? If so, what particular function do you use them for in Star Citizen. I've been debating on whether or not I need pedals and would appreciate your input. Thanks.
You should probably wait to decide until 3.5. I love dogfighting and it has sucked BALLS since 3.0... 3.5 will change this hopefully. I will make a bunch of content .
I have the V2 model of these, and agree they are fantastic. But isn’t it kind of a waste with the flight model of SC?
Depends on how much you play, I suppose
Hey Noob, thanks for the review! Recently the VKB Kosmosima SCG (Space Combat Grip) has been released, a left or right-handed joystick made for Space Sims by VKB...
If you ever get your hands on one of those (as they sell out in seconds), could you please review it?
Looks nice but i would always perfer my Slaw Device Viper RX. Did you take a look at those?
Rx are 3 times more expensive and out of reach for many of us..
I’m a Slaw Viper v.2 owner myself. They are the best.
$PRICE$? I seen $320US (might be wrong from site) so are they really worth the money over others?
Yes
I am new to space sim and flying, so forgive the noob question:
What are you binding the pedals and the brakes to? (In Star Citizen)
Pedals to roll i suppose...
Brakes to ???
Many thanks in advance for clarification
Greetings from Germany
Hi, can I ask You where You buy the pedals stand? I really need it cause the normal position on the floor is really no confortable for me.
Thx.
Bye.
Yes, no problem. The pedal stand is part of and included with Monstertech Sim Base. th-cam.com/video/y6ANB3zGPIc/w-d-xo.html let me know if there are other questions .
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Hi, I just look at the Monstertech website but what they sell as rudder pedal stand is not what I see in the video, have You made some modifications?
Can I ask You, if possible, some shot of Your base and the measures of the various pieces? I'm start thinking that i will made a DIY base :)
Gabriele Ragano it’s MTX SIMULATION it’s part of a sim rig
You have them mounted to a base, can they operate on their own or do they need additional mounting?
They just sit on the floor
I've had these for years and they are great and durable, and no thread-locked screws nonsense to replace the cams (I have no idea what certain flight-stick manufacturers were thinking).
But I thought you were a standing gamer... how will that work out?
I have both full setups now, I can stand or simpit. Please see the last video before this one.
Noobifier, what did you mount the MFG's to? And where can I get it?
They make that too th-cam.com/video/WNBiv6h2DpY/w-d-xo.html
3-axis pedals... my dream for nearest few months
i will it !
Having tested the crosswinds myself I personally prefer the VKB T-Rudder MK IV but they only have 1 axis, so not recommended for people needing brake axis.
I will hopefully be testing those soon
I returned my MK4 pedals. Didnt like unrealistic up and down movement and they arent so customizable and they are pretty narrow. Also they squeak, knock and boing all over the place after some time (unless you lubricate them with silicone spray). Recently VKB is adding rubber tube over spring so "boing" is less. MFGs are fantastic.
Are you going back to HOTAS then or dual stick with rudder pedals? I absolutely love my MFG's and fly with a warthog set. I was wondering if a dual stick with pedals would work well.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 so when is the Virpil vs VKB space sim stick and base comparison video coming? 😁
Today or tomorrow.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 That is most excellent news! Now I can stop reading reddit posts on what to buy!
Sean Lambert I hope to get it out soon. Latest will be 24h from now
Gosh I wish I can afford this XD!
The only pedals that are arguably better are a Slaw Device.
Still waiting for Virpil to release their pedals they have been teasing on their store page for a year now...
What is the platform that you have mounted these to?
It is attached to a monstertech MTX sim base. I have done some reviews of that if you like
@@NOOBIFIER1337 awesome, I'll check it out. Thanks for the superfast reply.
I wonder how the new more expensive Thrustmaster pedals compare to this?
I would like to know as well
I have these, worth it more than the TM warthog stick imho
Lol silly me. I'm watching your video lol
where to get software for windowes 10
There is no software for MFG pedals
So im torn between buying the new mfg pedals with damper or the virpil warBRD. do you have any suggestions?
Its a hard choice, they are both equally good but for different reasons. I really like the MFG crosswind because of the material used, the warBrd are a tank.
warbirds are shit compared to these no question. and you have to mount the warbirds for them to be stable.
@@nick-dm3if “Shit” is a bit of an overstatement.
These look great but does this mean no more standing for you Noob?
No, I have the sim pit also set up. There are two systems