Worst Fish Store Experience - KG Tropicals
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- John has been keeping aquariums since 1993 at the age of 19. In 2011 he and his wife Lisa started the KGTropicals TH-cam channel to educate new hobbyists.
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Man looking back now I realize how much this hobby has evolved and changed and how easy is to get help and info for it these days
john is a natural crowd speaker
One thing I wish I would’ve known back then and no one ever told me was to Not deep clean the tank, either clean the filter or gravel or large water change at different times, not at the same time. I would lose fish left and right after tearing the tank down, Scrubbing the rocks and decor, replacing filter cartridges and adding brand new water to the tank, and could never figure it out, and like John said, the fish store owner would just sell me more fish sayin the last one’s must of been sick or something. Now I’ve had a few tanks set up for years and fish older than my kids thanks to the interweb.
fam did the same yet we never lost anything, but we did use water that stood for 5/6 days.
there always 1 bag of ceramics that i never clean the sponge always and the pree filter plastic balls get a rinse works fine for me tank scrub every 6 months water change weekly. feed once times a day .tank away from sunlight it keeps algae down
I haven't had a tank in thirty-odd years. The books and magazines didn't have a lot of info compared to the TH-cam videos today. I've learned way more from John/Lisa, Jason/Joanna and Cory than I ever knew then. After Hamvention (No it's not a pork convention) this year I'll be building a stand and setting up a 55 gal. Thanks for all the help.
How's the tank coming along? :)
I'm so grateful that I didn't get into this hobby until after all the info I could ever want is available on the interwebs.
What a story! Love all the work you’ve put in since then and never let the bad shop owners detour you from your passion for the hobby!🇦🇺💚
Amazing story and thanks for sharing. You never stopped trying. I had similar experience when I was 14-15 and after a while just stopped trying to get more fishes. I was told to clean the tank with salt whenever it gets dirty and I unknowingly reset the cycle and had a new set of fishes every 2 weeks. Now I understand thanks to internet and channel like yours. I am hoping I keep learning and enjoy my fresh water fishes for a long time.
You should consider changing the title of this video. It sounds like this is a video degrading KG Tropicals.
Dude that was basically my story and a few of my friends back in tha day. We learned it like a searching for a light switch in the dark.
I believe books and libraries existed in Virginia in 1993. He could have done his research, assuming he was literate. I got started a couple of years before that, at age 14 in a small town in Finland, and being the nerd that I was, read a few books before ever buying fish. Nobody in my family had had an aquarium, but a neighbor did. I didn't have access to much English-language material at the time, just the books in Finnish in the local library, some of them translated from English. I did reasonably well with that from the start, give or take having some fish that should have not been the lone representatives of their species in a 60 L tank, etc.
I went to petsmart a couple months ago to get my usual bag of hills dog food ,,,, saw a blue crayfish and bought him on the spot ,,,set him up in a 55 gallon tank I had from ten years ago and just stuck in the basement ,,, I now am running 2 twenty gallon tanks ,the 55 ,a 29 and a ten breeding guppies for my crayfish to eat lololol this shit is snowballing outta control and I love every second of it …..👍🏻🍻🇨🇦
Awesome presentation bro!!! Thank you for sharing your story, I appreciate all that you and Lisa do for the hobby. Your energy and enthusiasm is contagious and your content is always on point. Hope to meet you in person someday and share some stories
Hi John, wow, I never expected to hear that horror story from YOU!! I am very happy to say that I got into fishkeeping in the early 70's because my hubby (then) had been keeping fish for a long time. So ,thankfully, he was a GREAT help! Well, that was long ago + my life took a drastic change. I started in CT moved to AZ + Now I'm in ME, living with my Daughter. My son in law has a 75gal tank here, and he knows NOTHING about fish KEEPING- he is a FISHERMAN and that's totally different. Well, I immediately got "the bug" to get my own tank, after seeing his fish die one after the other. I bought him a fishkeeping book, but I don't think he read it. Anyway, on to MY story. I had a silver Arrowana in my 125 gal tank (like I said many years ago) so I knew right away why the Tetras were disappearing from the Oscar tank-- DINNER. I thought the Arrowana tank didn't have time to cycle and any good bacteria that had actually grown......you killed it when you CLEANED OUT THE TANK + DID THE WATER CHANGE! LOL-- I have learned quite a bit over the years, even tho I didn't have a tank setup while living in AZ. I can't wait to clear out space for my tank! I plan to have a planted tank and for the 1st time--- BETTAS! 😂 John, I really get a lot out of your videos and I will continue to watch them. Hey, you were YOUNG!
I laughed several times during your story. I could relate to it because I had tanks back then as well. I remember under gravel filters and asking people in the stores for guidance. I also bought lots of books in order to learn the hobby. When I came back to the hobby, things had changed dramatically. There are endless resources for people these days. Thank you for your contributions.
Excellent talk 👏👏. I wish there was a camera on the audience to see there reaction. I love John and Lisa ❤️❤️
I lived in Stafford (610 area) for 8 years. We ended up moving to the Eastern Shore area of MD at the end of 2020. Housing went up and we weren't able to afford to buy there. I miss living up there. Great schools and very nice neighbors. Unfortunately our experience has been the complete opposite moving to the Salisbury MD area. Thank you for your videos. I have learned a lot since watching. I went from a 5 gal cube to a 20 gal long. I haven't killed anything yet. Lol.
You generally seem like a nice person. The customer is not always right but customer service is very important.
The easiest fish I’ve ever kept were zebra Danios. I love fresh water angelfish. So much so that I would love to have a dedicated tank.
Great story. We all have different stories of getting into this hobby 🙂
Was fortunate enuff to get into the hobby in the mid-80's by a very helpful and knowlegable pet store who referred us to the local Regina Aquarium Society group in my city in Saskatchewan. Within a few short months we had a dozen successful freshwater species tanks and one community tank all with UG filteration including a hex tank of paradise fish. Like Lisa my fave was bettas and I was soon breeding bettas and we had a successful wet/dry coral reef system 100 gallon saltwater tank along one wall of our living room. A helpful tip we got was to stock the tanks slowly in small numbers and feed sparingly only every second day for the first 6 weeks. We never had cycling issues using this method. We learned on our own that a batch of juvenile bettas shouldn't be moved from their breeding tank temporarily into a tank with a black ghost knife fish in it......duh on us..... and that one should definitely re-enforce their wood floors when setting up a custom built 100 gallon tank...... nuff said! We learn as we go !
I started fishkeeping in 1993 at 10 years old with my very own 15 gallon :) remember going to local library checking out any books I could to read up. Pre internet days it was so much more of a trial and error situation!
Like you I started with undergravel filtration, kept kuhli loach and didn't know where they went......turns out they went under the filtration n bred! Found tonnes of them when I changed the filter. Upgraded to a Fluval 2 as soon as they hit the market!
At the age of 16 I started working in my local fish shop because I was in there so much 😂
Am i having a stroke or is tis video in 1.25x speed?
Its definitely sped up, if you slow it down to 0.75, he sounds normal again
This blows my mind. When I was 16 my first job was in the fish dept at a local fish store. It was 97 so a bit later but still not a ton of houses had internet. We had a whole care and parameter discussion to everyone who came in to buy anything more aware than brine shrimp. It was to avoid having to refund fish of course but still it was accurate individual to the fish instruction...for that time. We also had arowana plus some adorable brackish puffers
Now we wouldnt necessarily refuse to sell a fish as it was against policy but you did have to listen to our spiel and sign that you heard it
John does a great job!💕👍
John I have never laughed so hard in my life! As always good content!
Cool story John👍🏾👌🏾
I love all the videos of Aquashella I would love to make it to you one of your shows that is my dream
Us old timers knew what a library was and how to use the Dewey decimal system.
Us old-timers also know that not every library had current or useful information.
I thought this video was gonna be about someone having a bad experience with KGTropicals. Glad I was wrong!
I've been feverishly watching various aquarium youtubers now that I got back into making an aquarium after over a decade out. I had NO idea about the nitrogen cycle, I only knew "beneficial bacteria is good", but I didn't even know why, thought it was just good for them to breath or something. I didn't know about cycling, I only knew about the temperature accumation.
Now I know enough that a fish store owner told me something that I KNEW was wrong, but me being not confident listened and thought "maybe I'm the one that's wrong, after all, I was clueless a few months ago" but later confirmed the information later and yes, I did buy a CAE that I knew was not a SAE and can't get the bugger out of the tank cause he's too zippy.
Not everyone has access to libraries or good ones. Some libraries I spent ages in growing up had a ton of very outdated information and while some was useful, a lot was trash. Getting new books in with info you wanted was hard as your interest might not be high on the priority list for them to get.
Most likely they were red eye tetras. Every pet shop in the DMV in the early 90’s carried neons and red eyes
Lol. When I first started in the hobby back in '95, and experienced my first failures, I went to a library. I guess they didn't have those in '93 ;)
Seriously, though, there's so much information, and having to pore through books and sort through which have good and not so good data wasn't easy. And then? When you think have a good grip on the hobby? You get a surprise, and the tank crashes.
Everytime i go to petco i get bad info lol
At least you didn’t give up
All I want is an oscar (and pleco 🥰). I got the largest tank I've ever owned. I set it up and let it cycle ... then my son put in two axolotls 🥺. After a year my son got his axolotls a new tank so I had hope again... now my daughter is using my tank as a turtle tank. 😭
Love the story. You made every newbie mistake. Lol
Great story
I know he's not a professional speaker but I wish he would have cut the story shorter, it wasn't that fascinating imo
wth?
I read tons of books and magazines in 94, and learned about keeping fish.
Thumbnail photo background looks awfully familiar 😎
It never occurred to you that the Oscar was eating the tetras?
These tetras must be a bad batch, the heads are falling off and the bodies are disappearing. Even stranger, the Oscar seems to have tripled in size..hmm.. lol
my new tank was cloudy like that never did figure it out just took all the water out and put new in then that solved it
I had books on the subject 30 years ago to be honest. I was keeping sharks back then and befriended people at a public aquarium for guidance too so no excuse even then for murdering fish, you were just over excited and impatient and inexperienced
He did ask several people for advice and they were incorrect and assholes about it
Most people don't realise the complexity involved when they start
Hi hope all is well i just love my fish I'm really into cichlids of late just wondering I have had many of Oscars over the years I have recently bought my first lemon Oscar and his friend a longfin abino tiger Oscar I have never had Oscars move all the rocks substrate so there is a clear bottom why are they doing this please
You were building out a basement of a townhouse @$7.25\HR?
The basement was in his own home. $7.25 was for installing cable, which is why he thought he was being called out to the fish store but when he got there he was told to put his tools up.
There was books available, should have read those.
where did my fish go? 😄
Hole in the wall fish store are great. Everything is illegal
Disappearing fish 😂😂 sorry but I think it’s funny
What a load of crap. There was research in 93, 83, 73 and back. It was called a library. They are mythical places now that contained books. Those books have information on all sorts of things. This dude, got into the hobby as an adult in 93 and still did not know where to find out where he could find information about things. In 93, I was using dial up internet and finding out that it was also supplying the world with information and thought to myself. But it wont replace libraries! It has and there are still people out there that use a fish group as their library rather than accessing a world of knowledge themselves through a browser search bar. Are they scared of having to read more than they have too? The hobby has gotten dumber, not better.
mine is pets R ----- cannot say the name because of the i can sue law .fish in the family 50 years of experience in fish keeping he refused to sell me fish because i was smirching when he was trying to tell me how to look after them. then the manager sold me the said fish to then overdose them with meds. never go there again thy died in 3 days i will manage to keep them longer than that without treatment my last fish was a ripe old age of 20 years .if you going to buy fish get them from true fish keepers. not some snotty nose collage kid are manager that no fuck all about them
More like KG cringe
not really i enjoyed this vid
Books back then sucked
Know books back then?
There were no where near as informative as nowadays
I'm sorry. John's a great guy but this talk is based on a lie. You can go on amazon and eBay right now and buy books and magazines from 30 years ago packed with information. Aquarium stores and libraries were full of books and magazines.
There was information available but unless you knew it existed you wouldn't have known it existed. There was a long period of time when I only got information from the people at pet stores because I didn't know that there was actual reference material available and the encyclopedia wasn't much help. None of my local fish stores carried magazines or anything like that. There were also no fishkeeping magazines available at my library, just books that were decades old and were only slightly more useful than the encyclopedia was.
Hindsight is 20/20 so it's easy to look back on a period of time and say "you should have known" to go to the library (and demand that they buy stuff you weren't sure existed?) or to drive hours away to see if a different store had anything (that you weren't sure even existed) but clearly, not every place has that information. Trust me, 30 years from now you're going to have someone saying "you should have known" to you regardless of whether you had access to the information or not.
@@girrl88 sorry, but about 50% of the comments on this post say the information was available. Just in a different format than it is today. If this was John posting a story on his TH-cam channel, that's fine but this is Aquashella's channel and a talk he chose to give to a paying audience. He could have shared some fascinating information with hobbyists, anything at all and that's what he decided to go with. Based on that level of information offered, I'm going to assume he hasn't learnt much more than the basics from the internet era either.
@@keithcolley3837 So that means that about 50% of the comments agree that the information wasn't all that easy to find.
As far as the talk, it is clear that he was already speaking before this clip was taken so we don't know what he shared.
@@girrl88 Not necessarily, it could mean half the posts are from people who don't know whether the information was factual or not.
As I say, John seems a really nice bloke and for what it's worth, my criticism isn't aimed at him. It's aimed at aquashella.
If I had paid $25 to spend the day at aquashella and spent an hour of my 8 listening to that talk. I'd feel my money would be better spent on a subscription to the aquarium coop membership. 2 hour livestreams once a fortnight from a leader in their field of fishkeeping. Personally, I like to spend my spare time and money learning how to be better at the hobby. But each to their own.
My only aim was to point out the irony of standing on a stage talking how about there was limited information about fishkeeping. When that time could and money could have gone into a talk that shared some expert information with the aquarium hobby as a whole.
How is it a lie? Of course they existed but he didn't know that. He clearly didn't consider trying the library if he didnt have the sense to realize his fish were being eaten.
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I feel better lol Hannibal my ghost knife ate 42 neons over night live & learn 👍😥
Maybe Hannibal thought they were Romans 😉