Have ya ever wondered if there was some mysterious super dreadnought just floating out in the galaxy some where just waiting for the perfect chance to emerge and destroy a fleet in minutes?
I’d argue Replicators, they have the Asgard beams which Star Wars can’t really answer and they can quickly assimilate most of the stuff the Star Wars universe can through against them, they don’t really have the tech to build ARGs and they don’t have or don’t use bullets often enough
It could have been a lot more effective than an Executor-Class Star Dreadnaught. The Bellator Star Dreadnaughts had the speed, the firepower, and the intimidation factor. It was the perfect compromise between the Mandators and the Executor Star Dreadnaughts, so while it's costlier than an Imperial Star Destroyers or an Allegiance Heavy Star Destroyers, the Empire could have built more of these ships in greater quantities than a few dozen Executors. A Bellator could have been a versatile and deadly ship under the hands of a brilliant and experienced commander. Imagine more of these big bad mofos with interdictor mines and missiles, more anti-starfighter defenses, and proton missiles arranged in a phalanx formation to destroy ships in broadside exchanges. Sounds badass, right? Now add a complement of Skipray blastboats, TIE Defenders, TIE Hunters, and shielded TIE Interceptors. With all of these combined, you have the perfect Rebel-busting ship that would work in tandem with improved Venators, enhanced Victory-Class Star Destroyers, and beefed up Vindicator Cruisers.
@@jaymikevillanueva1212 also TIE PHANTOMS. Give Thrawn one of these along with Dreadnought class heavy cruisers and he has a Flexible and badass fleet.
@@bradmorales4002 What if Thrawn wants to do probing or hit and fade attacks? He could very well work with improved Dreadnaught cruisers with networked systems along with Carrack frigates to soften Rebel strongholds. He'll need speed for that, which makes enhanced TIE Interceptors and Skipray blastboats for those assaults, too. As for TIE Phantoms? Great idea but why not merge that technology with TIE Defenders or TIE Hunters? Either TIE advanced fighters are perfect surgical strike fighters that can do anything from destroy ships and enemy fighters alike to stealth ops. Just add a cloaking device and an advanced AI to work closely with the pilot. Now what if you want more destruction with a heavier payload while integrate some stealth tech? Well, imagine all that TIE Phantom tech on a Scimitar-class strategic bomber. The Rebels won't know what hit them.
JayMike Villanueva you have a taste for tactical ships made my friend, these ships are cheaper than a typical imperial ship, and are far more effective if used right I would have my dreadnought escorted with 4 improved/upgraded Venators as you said, 2 enhanced victory-class star destroyer’s, and 3 beefed up Vindicator cruisers, along with anti star fighter Carrak and Charger c70’s, and having upgraded X-wings, upgraded/improved Arc 170’s, Tie defenders, upgraded RZ2 A wings, upgraded Y wings, and lastly, upgraded/ improved shielded V19 Torrents That’s what I think would be badass, what you think
One of my most memorable early gaming experiences was a dual disc of dark forces and full throttle. Totally on board with the in depth video. Commanded by Rahm Mahc if I'm not mistaken. In retrospect, his boots on the ground, anti Tarkin doctrine approach may have served the Empire much more effectively.
Viking mech squadron( Starcraft) vs VF-1 Valkyrie variable fighter squadron( SDF Macross). Its the battle between the first transforming mechs in each respective franchise.
For nearly every type of combat vessel that the Empire builds, the deflector shield generators seem to always be placed on the top/dorsal side of the vessel instead of on the front, sides, or to be ventrally mounted on the ship/vessel. That would seem to be a big weakness for any vessel constructed by the Empire, all that an enemy needs to do is to pound on the vessel long enough to collapse the shields, hit the generator towers on the top side & then the vessel is completely defenseless. No backup/auxilliary shield generators in the event of a power failure or other malfunction to the top-mounted shield generator structures.
My only reference for the scale of the Kandosii is the EAW Remake mod and while that mod tries to stay true to ship scales in lore i don't know how accurate it is. It just seems so much smaller than all other dreadnoughts
I would love to have seen the inclusion of a Hapan Battle Dragon. Just the idea of a rotating ring of weapons that can maintain a constant stream of fire on a single target, or maintain active offense on multiple targets just seems like a smart design that no one else for some reason considered.
Also as for "Other Battle moons" there are the two that bombard the rebel base in the Jedi Knight 1 expansion Mysteries of the Sith, they've got truly massive guns. I feel like scaling up the Eye of Palpatine to 19 km long when it was originally written as equal to the inaccurately small 8km Executor was a bit much given all its extra volume.
Nice catch, I remember these, think first heard of this from.. I think the EU novel Truce of Bakkura.. where Luke found himself almost dying several times on just such a strong, but a malfunctioning, weapon on it's way to due a long lost mission and picking up all sorts of creatures mistaking them for it's long lost garrison along the way if I remember right. It was I remember not a moon but some sorta station like ship I think. Almost forgot bout these.
Hey eck you should totally create like a series where you will analyze big battles of the post endor era . Especially space battles because this is where you sign . You had started that with some battles in njo series but i think that analyzing battles from series like the legacy of the force , the swarm war , x wing novels and others . I think that this would be a really cool idea !
@@jameskennedy8030 That's why I feel so bad for you! Sadly, reality is often disappointing and cruel. Newer star wars fans will acknowledge 'True Canon' as 'Legends'. No matter what you say, unless you manage to take control of star wars, that's how it'll work. I just ask you not to harass the newer fans or call them out with offensive words. It should be between people like you and Disney. Please don't cause collateral damage. That's all I wish for. Thank you! Pritish Shakya
I'm thinking the Empire could have saved a few really cool projects had they just used an escort of a small fleet. That arch hammer was pretty cool, grear concept
There's a - quite good* - fanfic written about that - search for _Empire's Son_ by blank101 *If you don't mind _lot's_ of exposition, depressed introspection, and grimdark.
The Flood would be able to set themselves up and propogate far faster than the Reapers. They can take over enemy assets on the go snd in the field on a scale that he reapers can't, meaning that they can replenish their losses and gain more ground and objectives far quicker
#askeck What do you expect to see from the upcoming age of resistance comics? Specifically snoke’s issue. Do you think it will explain any of his backstory or his relationship with palpatine, gallius rax and the imperial remnant?
I like the Bellator a lot, because it's the closest star wars has ever really come to a battlecruiser; a well-rounded dreadnought sacrificing a bit of size for a lot of speed while bearing the same armament as their bigger battleship brothers
That's from Battle of the Dreadnoughts. Here's a link to the video if you haven't seen it: th-cam.com/video/5Jlo081vSQQ/w-d-xo.html (you should check it out, it's pretty neat).
You forgot about the asteroid battle stations that attacked the rebel outpost in star wars mysteries of the sith. They would be familiar to the moon ships. Where your Kyle Katarn for the first few levels.
Quastion for Eckhart. How amazing would the pulsar station as described in Rogue squadron be? Essentially a smaller and meant to take out ships Death Star.
Regarding audible...there is a search option to filter by wether the book is abridged or not. There are quite a few Timothy Zahn novels unabridged there, also the entire nine book FATE OF THE JEDI series is last major mini series before Disney abolished the expanded universe
#AskEck When Lothal was liberated by the Ghost Crew and the Rebel Alliance, the Empire never went to reclaim Lothal. When the Galactic Civil War happened, people that didn't want to participate in the Civil War, would they take refuge in Lothal since it was never attacked?
What about the Pelagia Star, a massive, ancient warship used by House Pelagia, that despite being crippled by the imperials, was unable to be destroyed by the imperial with 5 Star Destroyers blasting away at it for hours because it was just too damn tough?
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Lol
Woah you're really a lawyer?
Do you have a FB account?
Eck, you aren't a loser!
WHAT? What do mean a loser? Who called you that?
Empire: So Tarkin how many super weapons do you want?
Tarkin: *Yes*
Tarkin was like a little kid who only wanted the biggest and coolest looking toys for his fleets and armies.
George Estep ikr
Yes
Wilhuff Tarkin No.
He was frustrated sexually lol
Battle moons? Who let the Orks design weapons for Palpatine?
Ork and Tarkin doctrine are quite compatible, thats why. "MAKE IT BIGGA!"
It *WARGGG*
WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
ORKS: "More DAKKA"
Palpatine: "Excellent"
How long until we see an Imperial Rok?
I'm still interested in a full vid on the Arc Hammer.
Have ya ever wondered if there was some mysterious super dreadnought just floating out in the galaxy some where just waiting for the perfect chance to emerge and destroy a fleet in minutes?
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (528th try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*
Persistent
I’d argue Replicators, they have the Asgard beams which Star Wars can’t really answer and they can quickly assimilate most of the stuff the Star Wars universe can through against them, they don’t really have the tech to build ARGs and they don’t have or don’t use bullets often enough
Replicators win. Now if they fought the Vong.... That might be a dofferent story
I liked the Bellator because it was a flexible and tactical Dreadnought
also known as the sexy dreadnought^^
It could have been a lot more effective than an Executor-Class Star Dreadnaught. The Bellator Star Dreadnaughts had the speed, the firepower, and the intimidation factor. It was the perfect compromise between the Mandators and the Executor Star Dreadnaughts, so while it's costlier than an Imperial Star Destroyers or an Allegiance Heavy Star Destroyers, the Empire could have built more of these ships in greater quantities than a few dozen Executors. A Bellator could have been a versatile and deadly ship under the hands of a brilliant and experienced commander.
Imagine more of these big bad mofos with interdictor mines and missiles, more anti-starfighter defenses, and proton missiles arranged in a phalanx formation to destroy ships in broadside exchanges. Sounds badass, right? Now add a complement of Skipray blastboats, TIE Defenders, TIE Hunters, and shielded TIE Interceptors. With all of these combined, you have the perfect Rebel-busting ship that would work in tandem with improved Venators, enhanced Victory-Class Star Destroyers, and beefed up Vindicator Cruisers.
@@jaymikevillanueva1212 also TIE PHANTOMS. Give Thrawn one of these along with Dreadnought class heavy cruisers and he has a Flexible and badass fleet.
@@bradmorales4002 What if Thrawn wants to do probing or hit and fade attacks? He could very well work with improved Dreadnaught cruisers with networked systems along with Carrack frigates to soften Rebel strongholds. He'll need speed for that, which makes enhanced TIE Interceptors and Skipray blastboats for those assaults, too.
As for TIE Phantoms? Great idea but why not merge that technology with TIE Defenders or TIE Hunters? Either TIE advanced fighters are perfect surgical strike fighters that can do anything from destroy ships and enemy fighters alike to stealth ops. Just add a cloaking device and an advanced AI to work closely with the pilot.
Now what if you want more destruction with a heavier payload while integrate some stealth tech? Well, imagine all that TIE Phantom tech on a Scimitar-class strategic bomber. The Rebels won't know what hit them.
JayMike Villanueva you have a taste for tactical ships made my friend, these ships are cheaper than a typical imperial ship, and are far more effective if used right
I would have my dreadnought escorted with 4 improved/upgraded Venators as you said, 2 enhanced victory-class star destroyer’s, and 3 beefed up Vindicator cruisers, along with anti star fighter Carrak and Charger c70’s, and having upgraded X-wings, upgraded/improved Arc 170’s, Tie defenders, upgraded RZ2 A wings, upgraded Y wings, and lastly, upgraded/ improved shielded V19 Torrents
That’s what I think would be badass, what you think
Ark hammer was good choise
World ship may be also good choice for strange ship.
One of my most memorable early gaming experiences was a dual disc of dark forces and full throttle. Totally on board with the in depth video. Commanded by Rahm Mahc if I'm not mistaken. In retrospect, his boots on the ground, anti Tarkin doctrine approach may have served the Empire much more effectively.
Jerec's Vengeance - Class SSD from Jedi Kinght: Dark Forces II
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Viking mech squadron( Starcraft) vs VF-1 Valkyrie variable fighter squadron( SDF Macross). Its the battle between the first transforming mechs in each respective franchise.
7:37: "This is an unfortunate setback. The Force is strong with Katarn."
Hands down the best Star Wars channel out here
Keep up the good work Eck
*sees dark trooper horde*
“They no match for Droideka!” 😼
1. T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
2. Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pellaon class Star Destroyer
seeing the description of the legacy era ships, im sure the Pelleaon would win.
Awesome video i personally love hearing about anything from the old star wars lore
The bellator is my favorite ship in the empire simply because of the design it just looks so cool!
Your intros always make me super nostalgic
PLEASE do the Arc Hammer video anyway. It’s great.
Great videos, keep them up, you've gotten me back into star wars after being away for a few years
For nearly every type of combat vessel that the Empire builds, the deflector shield generators seem to always be placed on the top/dorsal side of the vessel instead of on the front, sides, or to be ventrally mounted on the ship/vessel. That would seem to be a big weakness for any vessel constructed by the Empire, all that an enemy needs to do is to pound on the vessel long enough to collapse the shields, hit the generator towers on the top side & then the vessel is completely defenseless. No backup/auxilliary shield generators in the event of a power failure or other malfunction to the top-mounted shield generator structures.
#Askeck
*401* attempt at Forerunners vs. Warhammer 40k.
Idea origin: Thor's Hammer!!
You know what else is Unique ship? The Valiant Class Superheavy Cruiser/BattleCruiser
The Kandosii-type dreadnought
is unique too
My only reference for the scale of the Kandosii is the EAW Remake mod and while that mod tries to stay true to ship scales in lore i don't know how accurate it is.
It just seems so much smaller than all other dreadnoughts
TheRed Hawk metanerds made a video on the kandosii type Dreadnought already
Thx for the very constant videos.
I would love to have seen the inclusion of a Hapan Battle Dragon. Just the idea of a rotating ring of weapons that can maintain a constant stream of fire on a single target, or maintain active offense on multiple targets just seems like a smart design that no one else for some reason considered.
You forgot to mention that Kyle blew it up "for freedom" and to "make Jan proud".
Wasn’t Kyle the original Jin from Rogue One? As in the guy who got the first Death Star plans to Leia in legends? Cause that alone makes him a G.
Its not a dreadnought.....it's a rock
Thats no ship
Thats a battlestone
The pioneers used to fly these babies for lightyears
#AskEck
Which SCP would fit in the Star wars Universe?
Robert the Dude 096 maybe?
682 is some expanded universe shit
Peanut, peanut fits in all universes.
Imagine 096 or 682 breach in a Star Destroyer :0
This is where i learn about all the strange and different star wars info.. ;) (of course NOW i want to know more about the Ark Hammer)..
The Bellator looks so cool!
I really love the Vengeance class dreadnought!
Nebulon B-2 Frigate vs. Klingon D7 Battlecruiser. LEAVE A LIKE Y'ALL! Make it happen!
Also as for "Other Battle moons" there are the two that bombard the rebel base in the Jedi Knight 1 expansion Mysteries of the Sith, they've got truly massive guns.
I feel like scaling up the Eye of Palpatine to 19 km long when it was originally written as equal to the inaccurately small 8km Executor was a bit much given all its extra volume.
I loved the video. Gotta admit, didn’t know about the nest ship
This purge in the discord better be good
Nice catch, I remember these, think first heard of this from.. I think the EU novel Truce of Bakkura.. where Luke found himself almost dying several times on just such a strong, but a malfunctioning, weapon on it's way to due a long lost mission and picking up all sorts of creatures mistaking them for it's long lost garrison along the way if I remember right. It was I remember not a moon but some sorta station like ship I think. Almost forgot bout these.
Hey eck you should totally create like a series where you will analyze big battles of the post endor era . Especially space battles because this is where you sign . You had started that with some battles in njo series but i think that analyzing battles from series like the legacy of the force , the swarm war , x wing novels and others . I think that this would be a really cool idea !
Covenant CAS Assault Carrier vs Resurgent Class Star Destroyer
(I’ve lost track of the count, like so Eck can see!)
That would be an attricious, slugging fight.
Vs matchup
Arquitens Imperial light cruiser vs CR92A corvette
Hey can u cover more old republic stuff? I love your videos, they’re more in depth than other channels.
The Arc Hammer is soo fucking cool..!!
Would love Dysney to include it into one of they’re upcoming TV series or something.
"Legends" just another word for True Canon.....
I feel sorry that your surname matches that of the feminazi who destroyed star wars along with her subordinates.
@@ExcaliburHeavyBattlecruiser how do you think I feel? She disgraced the name....
@@jameskennedy8030 That's why I feel so bad for you! Sadly, reality is often disappointing and cruel. Newer star wars fans will acknowledge 'True Canon' as 'Legends'. No matter what you say, unless you manage to take control of star wars, that's how it'll work. I just ask you not to harass the newer fans or call them out with offensive words. It should be between people like you and Disney. Please don't cause collateral damage. That's all I wish for. Thank you!
Pritish Shakya
Vs matchup
Squad battle between Spartan 4s(Halo) vs Dark Trooper Mk3 (Star Wars)
Or Master Chief and Dengar.
Love the fact that Tarkin is consider by you as superweapon
I'm thinking the Empire could have saved a few really cool projects had they just used an escort of a small fleet. That arch hammer was pretty cool, grear concept
Not sure if it's been covered, can you do a "what if" luke and leia were switched at birth? Leia going to tatooine and luke going to alderaan?
There's a - quite good* - fanfic written about that - search for _Empire's Son_ by blank101
*If you don't mind _lot's_ of exposition, depressed introspection, and grimdark.
As i remember, you will rekt ensigns on your discord server, when we'll get you one million views, am i still correct?
Qtaro Kujo'd hasn’t happened yet
Please no
Random question, what level ranks out of ensign?
@@trmbonz Above 30, which means you'll spend some time sitting on our server and watching doomsday approach.
We need 1 mil subs so he’ll purge all the ensigns on his discord cmon guys we can do it
What if on the road to 1 million hundreds more ensigns join in?
What's that footage of the Mon Cal ship being attacked from?
Its from Battle of the Dreadnoughts, a fanfilm made by Eck (I think): th-cam.com/video/5Jlo081vSQQ/w-d-xo.html
I would love to see you do a analysis on Kyle katarns ship
Bro the Bellator is like my second favorite ship in sci fi I love it
Reapers (Mass Effect) vs the Flood (Halo). Comparing how effective each of these forces are at elimating on a galactic scale
The Flood would be able to set themselves up and propogate far faster than the Reapers. They can take over enemy assets on the go snd in the field on a scale that he reapers can't, meaning that they can replenish their losses and gain more ground and objectives far quicker
Vs Matchup: Oberth-class (Star Trek) vs Oberth-class (Macross). A battle to determine which is most expendable!
The belator looks really cool ,can i get a model of that? Please tell me if you know
ODSTs were deployed in Darktrooper style pods ;). Also. Spes Mahrinez style. Starship troopers. Etc.
That ensign purge better happen my dude, or else I’ll crease your Star Wars books
Why stop at Just the Star Wars books? :thanos:
Because he died in endgame, twice
#askeck
What do you expect to see from the upcoming age of resistance comics? Specifically snoke’s issue. Do you think it will explain any of his backstory or his relationship with palpatine, gallius rax and the imperial remnant?
I like the Bellator a lot, because it's the closest star wars has ever really come to a battlecruiser; a well-rounded dreadnought sacrificing a bit of size for a lot of speed while bearing the same armament as their bigger battleship brothers
0:49 he's talking about the space station that was named after Tarkin.
CAS Assault Carrior vs Godzilla Earth
The Bellator and Assertor is my favorite I like their appearance, credits to the creator fractalsponge
Are there any Pre-Dreadnoughts in the Star Wars Universe?
Not really , the definition of dreadnought in the SW universe is not an "all-big gun battleship" but a powerful flagship.
United Mass Effect galaxy + the Reapers vs a Yuzhan Vong invasion (Star Wars).
I’d like to see that except vs the Covenant instead of Yuzhan Vong.
THE NIGHT HAMMER!
Hey what's the clip playing in the background during the first bit of the vid?
That's from Battle of the Dreadnoughts. Here's a link to the video if you haven't seen it: th-cam.com/video/5Jlo081vSQQ/w-d-xo.html (you should check it out, it's pretty neat).
Mandator vs. Subjugator
UNSC Infinity vs. Any ship of your choosing
#AskEck
I like the Bellator too, but I like more the Assertor class SSD and also the Annihilator class SSD (see Empire at War Remake mod to understand)
It could be that the corellian dreadnought's egg shaped design was inspired by the Killik nest ships
Pls make a galactic versus blackout vs b3 ultra battle Droid
You forgot about the asteroid battle stations that attacked the rebel outpost in star wars mysteries of the sith. They would be familiar to the moon ships. Where your Kyle Katarn for the first few levels.
Please do a video on the Battletech universe.
The nest ship is like the pycrete aircraft carrier of the Star Wars universe. Who needs armor or shields when you simply have tons of material?
Bellator Class Dreadnought is my favorite Star Wars ship
Where is the clip from 1.34 from? Never seen that before...
Excellent....
Do a video on the arc hammer.
Nice Video like everytime :-)
Would you thought about doing a vid about the Warships from the Honor-Harrington-Series ?
new thrawn book for audible comes out in 43 days btw!
Vs Matchup, Starfleet Vs Mandalorian Neo Crusaders :^)
Imagine being a rebel cell stealing some resources from a astroid base then 3 venators come out and open fire on you
Would you you be willing to do a video on the pentastar alignment
The Bellator is basically a German "Pocket Battleship" from WW2. But IIINNN SPAAAACCEEE
Quastion for Eckhart. How amazing would the pulsar station as described in Rogue squadron be? Essentially a smaller and meant to take out ships Death Star.
Killiks weren’t just bugs. They were mind-raping bugs that somehow weren’t wiped from the galaxy...
Here’s a fun one I just thought of Star Wars world devestator vs Star Trek Borg cube
Regarding audible...there is a search option to filter by wether the book is abridged or not. There are quite a few Timothy Zahn novels unabridged there, also the entire nine book FATE OF THE JEDI series is last major mini series before Disney abolished the expanded universe
The Five Most Unique Hardened Steel Doritos with Laser Beams from Space.
When caps lock is on and you hold shift for the first letter
#AskEck When Lothal was liberated by the Ghost Crew and the Rebel Alliance, the Empire never went to reclaim Lothal. When the Galactic Civil War happened, people that didn't want to participate in the Civil War, would they take refuge in Lothal since it was never attacked?
The killic remind me of the klikiss from Kevin j Anderson's saga of seven suns
What about the Pelagia Star, a massive, ancient warship used by House Pelagia, that despite being crippled by the imperials, was unable to be destroyed by the imperial with 5 Star Destroyers blasting away at it for hours because it was just too damn tough?
1:29 What movie is that from?
Not first but I tried, nice vid even tho I didn't watch it yet.
Same. I didn’t even watch it either
*Dark Trooper, release!*
Love the bellator would be my ship
#askeck
What do you think of the CX-133 Chaos fighter from Tales of the Jedi and how would it compare something like a TIE Fighter?
First. Great video. Interesting discussion
Eck i think you should do a Halo Infinite trailer Analysis its very good
Go Kyle!