I imagine it could easily become a nightmare depending on where you're based, dealing with permits, safety inspections, insurance etc... As soon as you start making money off of something all the rules change, customers expect a certain level of quality, nothing can be half-arsed or sketchy because if someone gets injured due to your negligence the lawyers will be after you.
Own the mountain... maaaaaaan! I'm building bikepark at Russia, and all this tips from 1st to the last are so true, so fine! Dan knows 👌 My best tips for now are that the bikepark is consisting of bike part and park part. Building of trails in the woods or building a bikepark - very different stories. At bikepark you need to be also a gardener. And think about all existing levels of riders.
This is exactly what is inspiring us to make the smallest bike park in the UK ..... Skillz ! Really useful advice from Affy especially as we are currently revamping lines and features . A very interesting vlog guys
Last fall we got permission to build trails at our local "slalom/snowboard hill".. at the best spots we got 2-3inches of dirt, before we hit bedrock.. it's a real nightmare sometimes trying to build berms and stuff..And yeah, its basically the only big-ish hill within 50km's radius 😂 anyone else got these kind of conditions to work with? Would be interresting to get some inspiration for the upcoming diggingseason.. still got like 20inches of packed snow on the hill 🙄 Great video as usual, cheers from Finland!
Yes, we're getting soil and gravel shipped in, and also building lots of wooden features. Would be interresting to see some footage of similar-ish conditions tho 😁 would be so much easier to show a couple of videos to the 70+ aged people running the place, than standing there waving our hands trying to sound like a feature, and picture it mid-air.. they don't speak MTB 😂 It all just looks dangerous to them 😂
Getting permission is the key. Unsanctioned trails which are potentially damaging environmentally and not maintained, covered in trash are pointed to by people who want to prevent sanctioned mtb trails. If we want more trails we need to work with stakeholders because the anti mtb voices are very loud.
If it helps figure out costs the new chairlift installed here at a ski field in New Zealand cost 8 Million GBP. Think a few landys are cost effective haha
@@richyyyp i guess there are plenty of options, the old used ones, could cost fraction of that, also some bike parks use t-bars, which should not be too expensive.
4:07 a dutch saying goes ‘beter goed gejat dan slecht bedacht’ (better copy something well than come up with a shitty idea yourself) which is my motto as well when digging. When building on your own hill it will inevitably become your own version anyway..
Why is Dyfi pronounced "Dubby"? Every time I hear it I think that I have to be misunderstanding them but it's the same every time. Someone please explain.
its pronounced 'Duvvy'. Its a welsh word and welsh letters are pronounced differently to English. In this case the Y is pronounced 'uh', the F pronounced like a v, and the I pronounced 'ee'. Hence Duhvee, or duvvy.
@7:00 I get not building unofficial track in a designated zone but what about building it in a public place? Say an existing path and you just add some berms.
Yeah that's my local as well. I'm not sure about unofficial trails but the lime burner is pretty solid, wish we had an actual black trail as opposed to black sections
@@Phantomsplash yeah it's probably one of my favourite sections, I wish the flow sections were better built and there was options for bigger jumps though.
I built so many illegal trails back in the 90's. Our crews biggest achievement was turning a huge bomb hole into a cork screw complete with tunnel out. Within a month of building it some utter scum in a 4x4 destroyed it Infront of our eyes 😭
What's the best way to work with a trail organization that is completely adamant about not letting anybody ride when the tracks are even the slightest bit damp?
I'm sure they have really good reasons for being that strict about riding wet trails. I would recommend helping them dig and maintain the trails a bit so you can help build rad features and see for yourself why the wet might be a problem. Often as part of the build crew you can unlock special riding priveliges!
@James Poole A single org manages most of the trails in my area and if it rains for a half day they close down everything for 3-4 days following that. I've talked to a couple of the trail stewards already and usually they close the entire trail because of a couple problem spots that the org has no interest in fixing drainage for. Plus everything is so hard packed at this point that there would have to be a ton of rain to make the slightest rut for a vast majority of the trails. I totally understand that they want to preserve the trail but what's the point if people can't ride it most of the time?
I am from Belgium and our problem is that the organisation who own the forests don’t let us build trails so to have trails, you need to dig illegal trails. Or my mtb club needs to buy parts of forests to even get a good training spot where we are sure it isn’t illegal. Especially in Flanders is the problem really big. And the trails made by Sport Vlaanderen are so rubbish they are only intended for the real beginning mountainbiker and not for the advanced mountainbiker.
Similar situation here in eastern Austria. Everything flat and the only nearby mountains/hills are occupied by the military as training grounds. Thus no MB track anywhere.
So the guy in yuor #Bikelife Dan Atherton in the new #GMBN of thes so trails a construcchon but yuor manufacture the goods. Buildings tips for thes. #Moutainbike Bike parks depending of thes session's bike's the good joop for the 🗣️🤘 #Moutainbiking #cycling 🗣️yyaaa Saluds of chile 🇨🇱
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 unless it badly affect you but hey. Suppose if it doesn't get me, who give a shit, ay?... But it does need to end soon as we appear by all measures to be well over the curve.
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 Your one of those people, no worries. Let's hope you never need to rely on science for anything important like your life.. Yeah, I don't need those "antibiotics" they are to control the sheeple by big pharm.
I would disagree with that. You should always build a bit above your current level so that you have something to progress to riding and buildin wise. But of course you should keep it reasonable
@@tadejstrah yes but the basis of a new trail/track should always be within your ability otherwise you won't know whether it flows how you want it or its you skill thats the problem
It would be an absolute dream to own a bike park, maybe one day :D
I imagine it could easily become a nightmare depending on where you're based, dealing with permits, safety inspections, insurance etc... As soon as you start making money off of something all the rules change, customers expect a certain level of quality, nothing can be half-arsed or sketchy because if someone gets injured due to your negligence the lawyers will be after you.
@@chiefsilverback I wouldn't let other ride it, I'd have it to myself 😂
@@LECMTB that’ll do it!
@@LECMTB can I come ride... promise I wont sue
*DH kids with shovels and free time* :
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Own the mountain... maaaaaaan! I'm building bikepark at Russia, and all this tips from 1st to the last are so true, so fine! Dan knows 👌
My best tips for now are that the bikepark is consisting of bike part and park part. Building of trails in the woods or building a bikepark - very different stories. At bikepark you need to be also a gardener. And think about all existing levels of riders.
Great video RichARD ( I've noticed this what Blake calls Rich 😂) and Dan.
Great content GMBN 🤘
This is exactly what is inspiring us to make the smallest bike park in the UK ..... Skillz ! Really useful advice from Affy especially as we are currently revamping lines and features . A very interesting vlog guys
*"Now, we own the mountain."* 😁
Last fall we got permission to build trails at our local "slalom/snowboard hill".. at the best spots we got 2-3inches of dirt, before we hit bedrock.. it's a real nightmare sometimes trying to build berms and stuff..And yeah, its basically the only big-ish hill within 50km's radius 😂 anyone else got these kind of conditions to work with? Would be interresting to get some inspiration for the upcoming diggingseason.. still got like 20inches of packed snow on the hill 🙄 Great video as usual, cheers from Finland!
Dig up all the dirt and just have one long ass rock slab from top to bottom lol
Ship in soil?
Yes, we're getting soil and gravel shipped in, and also building lots of wooden features. Would be interresting to see some footage of similar-ish conditions tho 😁 would be so much easier to show a couple of videos to the 70+ aged people running the place, than standing there waving our hands trying to sound like a feature, and picture it mid-air.. they don't speak MTB 😂 It all just looks dangerous to them 😂
ANY video with Affy is educational. Dyfi is on my to do list this year
"we got HSBC on-board" is the most mtb way of saying we got a loan from the bank ive ever heard
That or "we're running HSBC as our sponsors"
Getting permission is the key. Unsanctioned trails which are potentially damaging environmentally and not maintained, covered in trash are pointed to by people who want to prevent sanctioned mtb trails. If we want more trails we need to work with stakeholders because the anti mtb voices are very loud.
I'm actually studying management to open my own bike park in a few years, this video idea was awesome guys thanks!!!
Now make a track that fits in your bag😏
Much RESPECT to Atherton guys!!!
Finally an interview with the man, that made me fall in love with digging since The Athertons Podcast dayz 🤙🏽
Thx for the inspiration, Dan 👊🏽
Dan the Man! one gnarly dude
Great tips! Still snow here in the middle of sweden but as soon as the snow is away i’m starting to build my second trail!
Why with MTB huge popularity and all year riding there is NO chair lift assisted bike park in UK?
If it helps figure out costs the new chairlift installed here at a ski field in New Zealand cost 8 Million GBP. Think a few landys are cost effective haha
@Sammy Shellard Lucky enough to have one here, if the UK had one it would be sweet. Can smash out laps!
@@richyyyp i guess there are plenty of options, the old used ones, could cost fraction of that, also some bike parks use t-bars, which should not be too expensive.
Fort William, Glencoe...
Love ❤️ this channel
Build quality.🤙🏽 this apply to everything.
Not bad Dan, almost on a par with one of my trails built with one man a bow saw and spade.
4:07 a dutch saying goes ‘beter goed gejat dan slecht bedacht’ (better copy something well than come up with a shitty idea yourself) which is my motto as well when digging. When building on your own hill it will inevitably become your own version anyway..
great upload
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never clicked so fast 💨
Why is Dyfi pronounced "Dubby"? Every time I hear it I think that I have to be misunderstanding them but it's the same every time. Someone please explain.
its pronounced 'Duvvy'. Its a welsh word and welsh letters are pronounced differently to English. In this case the Y is pronounced 'uh', the F pronounced like a v, and the I pronounced 'ee'. Hence Duhvee, or duvvy.
@@willbick7889 Thank you!
@7:00 I get not building unofficial track in a designated zone but what about building it in a public place? Say an existing path and you just add some berms.
Nice video 👍
Go to high lodge Thetford forest black root one of my best rides
Yeah that's my local as well. I'm not sure about unofficial trails but the lime burner is pretty solid, wish we had an actual black trail as opposed to black sections
You done the beast I have
@@Phantomsplash yeah it's probably one of my favourite sections, I wish the flow sections were better built and there was options for bigger jumps though.
Dig, rake,ride, repeat.
Dank, rake, ride, repeat 😂
excellent my dear friend very good exercise your friend coach mohana from palestine 🇵🇸
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I built so many illegal trails back in the 90's. Our crews biggest achievement was turning a huge bomb hole into a cork screw complete with tunnel out. Within a month of building it some utter scum in a 4x4 destroyed it Infront of our eyes 😭
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Why is the Atherton's bike park called DYFI? What does it stand for?
It's the name of the local surrounding woodland dude. Dyfi loosely translates to 'grow' in English
@@KeironStarr Thanks
There's something really odd with your mic setup.
I curious if Dyfi has non-jump trails.
Everything Is rollable there
What's the best way to work with a trail organization that is completely adamant about not letting anybody ride when the tracks are even the slightest bit damp?
I'm sure they have really good reasons for being that strict about riding wet trails. I would recommend helping them dig and maintain the trails a bit so you can help build rad features and see for yourself why the wet might be a problem. Often as part of the build crew you can unlock special riding priveliges!
@James Poole A single org manages most of the trails in my area and if it rains for a half day they close down everything for 3-4 days following that. I've talked to a couple of the trail stewards already and usually they close the entire trail because of a couple problem spots that the org has no interest in fixing drainage for. Plus everything is so hard packed at this point that there would have to be a ton of rain to make the slightest rut for a vast majority of the trails. I totally understand that they want to preserve the trail but what's the point if people can't ride it most of the time?
Free range?
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I am from Belgium and our problem is that the organisation who own the forests don’t let us build trails so to have trails, you need to dig illegal trails. Or my mtb club needs to buy parts of forests to even get a good training spot where we are sure it isn’t illegal. Especially in Flanders is the problem really big. And the trails made by Sport Vlaanderen are so rubbish they are only intended for the real beginning mountainbiker and not for the advanced mountainbiker.
Similar situation here in eastern Austria. Everything flat and the only nearby mountains/hills are occupied by the military as training grounds. Thus no MB track anywhere.
Yep, they are. Luckily here in Limburg we have awesome terrain. Come to Be-mine Simon, really good!
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That amount of achievement doesn’t happen if you let the rain stop play.
Why don't you make a indoor park
Them trails are only good for full sqishes but I only have a crappy carrera r.I.p
So the guy in yuor #Bikelife Dan Atherton in the new #GMBN of thes so trails a construcchon but yuor manufacture the goods. Buildings tips for thes. #Moutainbike Bike parks depending of thes session's bike's the good joop for the 🗣️🤘 #Moutainbiking #cycling 🗣️yyaaa Saluds of chile 🇨🇱
I think your 2 metre ruler is faulty.
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 unless it badly affect you but hey.
Suppose if it doesn't get me, who give a shit, ay?...
But it does need to end soon as we appear by all measures to be well over the curve.
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 Your one of those people, no worries.
Let's hope you never need to rely on science for anything important like your life..
Yeah, I don't need those "antibiotics" they are to control the sheeple by big pharm.
Best advice i heard was dont build a track thats out of your on ability and level
I would disagree with that. You should always build a bit above your current level so that you have something to progress to riding and buildin wise. But of course you should keep it reasonable
@@tadejstrah yes but the basis of a new trail/track should always be within your ability otherwise you won't know whether it flows how you want it or its you skill thats the problem
Tadej is right 👌🏻
Oh no you know where I burried Willy Nilly?
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Loved seeing how those trails were built 🤘🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍👍👍🤘🤘
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Ok, so.. Step one: BUY A MOUNTAIN
Those trails r fully Karen proof
hi plz respond so i can flex on my dad
How to get started trail building......Have a thick skin for politics :D
Can you give me 1 bike 😍😍
I see the tile so I click, I see rich so I dip
Too many yanos for my liking
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