from Julien Temple's great documentary "Crock of Gold: A Few Rounds with Shane MacGowan" a sequence with young Shane and behind him a young guy who really looks like Sid Vicious...
Why does the video description say 'someone who really looks like Sid Vicious' when it almost surely is him? In the comments here someone has also put '5 seconds in John Lydon with long hair' but to me that's not Lydon? Neither can l see Shane MacGopwan anywhere in the clip - can somebody clarify?
I've played it back at 0.25 speed and am still not convinced. Yes, Vicious is definitely the smiling kid but the third kid who jumps up (and is freeze-framed on too) looks nothing like Lydon. Would also love to know where this footage is from? @@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
"from Julien Temple's great documentary "Crock of Gold: A Few Rounds with Shane MacGowan" a sequence with young Shane and behind him a young guy who really looks like Sid Vicious...", it's in the video discription :)
If it's Sid, in London, then it wouldn't be possible. He moved to London from Bristol aged 14 and had a different hairstyle to the fella in the clip. In fact, he had a skinhead about two years after when he started college and squatting. It's not John Lydon who pops up it can't possibly be. They didn't meet until Sid was 16 at least.
@@c0rps11 when he first moved from Ibiza with his mum. If you listen to Sid the early days on the Radio 4 programme hosted by Jah Wobble which is on TH-cam (I don't have the specific link) then Sid turns up in London from Bristol and has the piss taken out of him for his accent when he goes for a job on a building site aged about 15. Remember these are the days when people left school aged 14. So even though Mr McGowan was around in the early days as was Mr Temple they are probably mistaken about the young man in the clip. It's Def not Lydon either as his hair was green and he tended to wear specs early on. I really don't think it's Sid, you have to remember those two were shit broke as well and probably couldn't afford the entrance fee to see big acts such as Bowie, Roxy etc. I may well be completely wrong as I wasn't there and only caught a few post-punk and ska acts a few years later.
John used to have his hair long just like that so im 50/50 on it being lydon,he looks to be with sid as well,that is sid,the long haired guy could also be the original singer of the band,as lydon was not the first singer,in fact there were two singers before john lydon.
His mother used to give him heroin when he was a child . He was a tragic figure and probably a murderer too but probably not a dork. I doubt his school had lockers or even a lunchroom lol
@nasdkhan254I know that's Sid. I just don't think the other kid is John. The face is just so different. I've seen pics of young John with long hair too.
Sid Vicious great smile‼️
Yes, I love you Sid Ritchie, I love him
His bolan days (and Lydon's hawkwind days?) very cool.
LoL Some of my Dad's Mates were in Hawkwind
What a gem this vid is!! Awesome
Que dulce Sid dando un besito, era tranquilo y re lindo y agradable antes de la heroína
Interesting find. Had to watch it a couple of times. Is that the old Rainbow in Finsbury Park?
This is so cool. 2 kids having fun, before the melee that was Malcolm.
This is simply amazing ❤
Why does the video description say 'someone who really looks like Sid Vicious' when it almost surely is him? In the comments here someone has also put '5 seconds in John Lydon with long hair' but to me that's not Lydon? Neither can l see Shane MacGopwan anywhere in the clip - can somebody clarify?
Playback at 0.25 speed and the 3rd kid that jumps up is John
And yea other kid is Sid..
I've played it back at 0.25 speed and am still not convinced. Yes, Vicious is definitely the smiling kid but the third kid who jumps up (and is freeze-framed on too) looks nothing like Lydon. Would also love to know where this footage is from? @@4th_Lensman_of_the_apocalypse
@@TomTremayne the kid on the left who pops up is 100% Lydon with long hair not the 2nd chubbier kid who pops up in middle.
@@TomTremayne have you ever seen a picture of Lydon with long hair?
Looks like it
Shane mc Gowan too
Have a look
What was the footage from.
"from Julien Temple's great documentary "Crock of Gold: A Few Rounds with Shane MacGowan" a sequence with young Shane and behind him a young guy who really looks like Sid Vicious...", it's in the video discription :)
If it's Sid, in London, then it wouldn't be possible. He moved to London from Bristol aged 14 and had a different hairstyle to the fella in the clip. In fact, he had a skinhead about two years after when he started college and squatting. It's not John Lydon who pops up it can't possibly be. They didn't meet until Sid was 16 at least.
Sid in Bristol??? When?
@@c0rps11 when he first moved from Ibiza with his mum. If you listen to Sid the early days on the Radio 4 programme hosted by Jah Wobble which is on TH-cam (I don't have the specific link) then Sid turns up in London from Bristol and has the piss taken out of him for his accent when he goes for a job on a building site aged about 15. Remember these are the days when people left school aged 14. So even though Mr McGowan was around in the early days as was Mr Temple they are probably mistaken about the young man in the clip. It's Def not Lydon either as his hair was green and he tended to wear specs early on. I really don't think it's Sid, you have to remember those two were shit broke as well and probably couldn't afford the entrance fee to see big acts such as Bowie, Roxy etc. I may well be completely wrong as I wasn't there and only caught a few post-punk and ska acts a few years later.
@@martinrees4788 oh ok thanks, I was mainly just curious since I thought maybe Sid had lived in Bristol or something yet I never heard that he had
I thought he dropped out in high school?
It's clearly Sid. It's his face
John used to have his hair long just like that so im 50/50 on it being lydon,he looks to be with sid as well,that is sid,the long haired guy could also be the original singer of the band,as lydon was not the first singer,in fact there were two singers before john lydon.
Poor Sod. I mean Sid 😁
Is that John Lydon at 0:05
so Indians were already there by the 70s?
well then... suppose that explains the current situation. sid looks innocent and johnny looked older here
Uh earlier
It's funny that he was a little dork that probably got shoved in lockers. Proves that it doesn't matter as long as you make music people connect with.
His mother used to give him heroin when he was a child . He was a tragic figure and probably a murderer too but probably not a dork. I doubt his school had lockers or even a lunchroom lol
you're projecting
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Probably the happiest he ever was, until heroin found him 😥
Nancy 😢 Heroin 💔 .
Truth of the matter sadly at that stage it was already in his life. No one is innocent🥲
Definitely Sid you can tell by his eyebrows, Not sure if that's John though? I Could be wrong I could be right/P.i.L 😁👍🏻
5 secs in JOHN LYDON (long hair)
Era un hippie 😎✌️
I don't think that's John.
@@GhastlyCretin it is and sid. Pause it
@nasdkhan254I know that's Sid. I just don't think the other kid is John. The face is just so different. I've seen pics of young John with long hair too.
@@GhastlyCretinThey paused it for a reason
Hahahaha that was amazing
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Do I need to point out 1st and 2nd kid are def pogoing. Ergo not invented by Sid!
Sid and John look a right pair of divs! 😂🤣💀
No such thing as an old Sid Vicious
No variety of hamster ever lives for very long. We had a Russian Dwarf that succumbed to cancer after 2-3 years or so.
Why are y'all fanboying over a killer?
He didn't do it. Do research.
@@nunya3960 I did. ya boi looks mighty guilty
@@abfkwbdkdmggfilw-uv5bn "he looks guilty." Yes, it sounds like you've definitely done your research.
@@nunya3960 How exactly do you know he didn't do it?
lol "Young"
Thats Sid..... before his "mum" gave him that *UTTERLY SHITTY* Birthday Present!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!