Bad rework not gonna lie, I'd rather have higher chances of getting a rare item than having more items collected from chests to have a higher chance to get a rare item. Also opening sealed chests manually in order to get more items is straight up the worst part, I think they should give the same amount for unloading sealed chests automatically aswell, so the person can fish more or open underwater chests in whispering caverns and limestone key for sunken items
Agreed it’s more of an inventory clutter potion rather than a luck potion. If we’re going the route of “roll it multiple times for better chances” it should roll up to 5 times but only give us 1 drop which would be the best item drop after all the rolls (valued by rarity then worth) that way it’s more about filtering out the garbage drops instead of making rare items common or filling our inventories to the brim and can still speed up the hunt for rare items.
Well yes the rework is bad because it is supposed to be a nerf. Luck was just too OP in its prior state. As for the second point, opening the sealed automatically gives you 2 extra drops too. I think arcey thought so because other notifications push the drop notifications out of your screen but luck works the same way for opening sealeds manually or automatically. So no difference
Would be cool If they fixed the bug with unloading sealed chest. Other than that though, Luck 5 on Golden Chest is actually a good way to get a Sunken If I'm being honest. A Sunken item is a 1/3000 chance. A single golden chest can get you 3 items, one possibly being a Sunken item. If what you said is true that you get 9 items from a single golden chest, then opening 10 golden chest you can get 90 items. Then the chances of getting one Sunken from those chest is 1/33 or 3.03%, If you opened 20, It's 1/16 or 6.25%. For comparison, General Argos' drop rate is 1/7 or 14%. I'm not sure If that increased dropped items is applicable to the other chest, If it did then that'd be great. If you're gonna try this, try looking for Underwater Structures between Limestone Key and Whispering Caverns, If not then try and save that Luck 5 potion for some other day till you finally find a structure between those 2 islands. Considering the loot from those underwater structures actually respawn. Though take everything I said with a grain of salt because it could just be entirely bullshit.
I don't really think the chances are that high simple because the base chance is still 1/3000. even if you can get 90 itens on chests, they will still roll 1/3000 90 times. So you will almost aways get garbage every single time.
@@matheusguerrascheffer6518 I'm aware, I did the math right. I'm not saying the chance needed is reduced, there's simply more samples for it to happen. For comparison, New Luck is like having 1000 people opening 1000 chest and one of them containing is the Prize. While Old Luck is like having 1000 chest but only one person exist and opens a chest one at a time, but you're more likely to come across the prize. Because Luck now is Quantity instead of Quality which is the Old Luck, which is just literal luck RNG compared to New Luck, which more of a solid guarantee.
the dark sealed chest gave the same amount of rewards when you did it with the quartermaster and when you did it manually you sold 2 chests at a time, which gave you way more popups, while when the quartermaster did it it does 1 chest at a time
6:22 Thats kinda lame imo. I have seen like 3 to 5 players with over or nearing 100 Prometheus Acrimony's (2 of which were in the same server), and 1 guy had like 200. Some players just hoard them and refuse to trade them.
i mean the rarity would be astronomically high though lol. In optimal conditions, getting just two sunkens from one abyssal golden chest are 1 in over 2 million with luck 3.
now... what is the best method to get legendary scales? I used to use luck IV in the Dark Sea to get some scales, and now with these changes it is more difficult
The reason it seems like you get more from selling manually is because you are selling more at a time. Quartermasters can only sell 1 sealed chest at a time, where you can sell up to 2
its weird because i checked and saw sometimes i got 7 items from opening 2 chests at hand, also theyre supposed to drop 6 items each, not 4, so its really weird
What Fishing rod and enchant do you use for more legendary fish? I know to fish in the dark sea for more legendary fish but I only got 2 for like 2 hours and I'm straight up struggling :(
people glaze toughened but i think graced does the job since colossal automatically replaces the big modifier on fish so there's no point on using toughened unless you really want to brute force the statistics
@@mouthless16 IIRC, the patch notes on the trello said that fishing rod stats don’t affect legendary fish chances anymore. This means you want an Ensnaring Bronze Rod to get as many chances as possible since you can’t increase the chances.
@@arceyplayz luck 5 rerolls the loot pool twice, so if u open a chests, u get the original chest loot, + 2 extra rerolls, so u open like 3 chests in 1
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that i know, but when i also counted it, it didnt add up, dark sealed chests give 2 items, and with luck 5 its supposed to give 6 EACH chest, but rn they give 4 only, so it could be a bug.
Well, since you didn't, I will: Let's define the chance of a Sunken drop as 1/2000, P(Sunken item) = 1/2000 Given Luck 5, so 3 rerolls, P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9 P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9=1/2000^9 2000^9=512x10^24 P(9 Sunken Items) = 1/512x10^24=1.953125x10^-30 Which is: ~1.95*10^28%, aka 0.000000000000000000000000000195% (or about 19.5 octillionths of a percent) or 1 in 5.12x10^29, aka 1 in 512 nonillion. Which is among the rarest things in the known universe.
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Bad rework not gonna lie, I'd rather have higher chances of getting a rare item than having more items collected from chests to have a higher chance to get a rare item.
Also opening sealed chests manually in order to get more items is straight up the worst part, I think they should give the same amount for unloading sealed chests automatically aswell, so the person can fish more or open underwater chests in whispering caverns and limestone key for sunken items
Agreed it’s more of an inventory clutter potion rather than a luck potion. If we’re going the route of “roll it multiple times for better chances” it should roll up to 5 times but only give us 1 drop which would be the best item drop after all the rolls (valued by rarity then worth) that way it’s more about filtering out the garbage drops instead of making rare items common or filling our inventories to the brim and can still speed up the hunt for rare items.
Well yes the rework is bad because it is supposed to be a nerf. Luck was just too OP in its prior state.
As for the second point, opening the sealed automatically gives you 2 extra drops too. I think arcey thought so because other notifications push the drop notifications out of your screen but luck works the same way for opening sealeds manually or automatically. So no difference
you do get the same amount... arcey just got more because he's opening 2 at a time
dumbass forget that luck prior to empire update is very overpower
real
Man as soon as we did luck party you done posted this😭🙏
So glad I farmed 1k dark seal chests and stored them then used a gilded luck V aura :)
I'll find your username, and make sure you never get those chests again
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@@patriks_lv unless hes not lb and has teleport settings to none
Damn
Would be cool If they fixed the bug with unloading sealed chest.
Other than that though, Luck 5 on Golden Chest is actually a good way to get a Sunken If I'm being honest.
A Sunken item is a 1/3000 chance. A single golden chest can get you 3 items, one possibly being a Sunken item. If what you said is true that you get 9 items from a single golden chest, then opening 10 golden chest you can get 90 items. Then the chances of getting one Sunken from those chest is 1/33 or 3.03%, If you opened 20, It's 1/16 or 6.25%.
For comparison, General Argos' drop rate is 1/7 or 14%.
I'm not sure If that increased dropped items is applicable to the other chest, If it did then that'd be great.
If you're gonna try this, try looking for Underwater Structures between Limestone Key and Whispering Caverns, If not then try and save that Luck 5 potion for some other day till you finally find a structure between those 2 islands.
Considering the loot from those underwater structures actually respawn.
Though take everything I said with a grain of salt because it could just be entirely bullshit.
I don't really think the chances are that high simple because the base chance is still 1/3000. even if you can get 90 itens on chests, they will still roll 1/3000 90 times. So you will almost aways get garbage every single time.
@@matheusguerrascheffer6518 I'm aware, I did the math right. I'm not saying the chance needed is reduced, there's simply more samples for it to happen.
For comparison, New Luck is like having 1000 people opening 1000 chest and one of them containing is the Prize. While Old Luck is like having 1000 chest but only one person exist and opens a chest one at a time, but you're more likely to come across the prize.
Because Luck now is Quantity instead of Quality which is the Old Luck, which is just literal luck RNG compared to New Luck, which more of a solid guarantee.
the dark sealed chest gave the same amount of rewards when you did it with the quartermaster and when you did it manually you sold 2 chests at a time, which gave you way more popups, while when the quartermaster did it it does 1 chest at a time
as of rn sealed chests give 4 items per, which is weird as they should give 6
@@arceyplayzI’m pretty sure luck V just adds 2 re rolls, so you get 2 by default then +2 for luck V
very interesting video
6:22 Thats kinda lame imo. I have seen like 3 to 5 players with over or nearing 100 Prometheus Acrimony's (2 of which were in the same server), and 1 guy had like 200. Some players just hoard them and refuse to trade them.
i mean the rarity would be astronomically high though lol. In optimal conditions, getting just two sunkens from one abyssal golden chest are 1 in over 2 million with luck 3.
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youtube showing me this video after i did a luck V event and no one got anything sunken is wild
Lol i just appeared on your boat randomly
don't quartermasters sell 1 chest at a time? thats why you were getting 4 items per chest sold
yes but its supposed to be 6 per chest, not 4
@@arceyplayz it is 4 per chest??? you get 2 extra drops at luck 5?
Make a guide we’re you teach how to get a lot of golden scales. I see players with 100 golden scales and I don’t no how
just fish. theres no other way
What did you use to get your chests to have a glow?
Revealing potion, you need growth sap to brew it
now... what is the best method to get legendary scales?
I used to use luck IV in the Dark Sea to get some scales, and now with these changes it is more difficult
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Hey arcey its been a while, thank you for giving me the idea to scam kids for sunken swords i now have 2 of them 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
The reason it seems like you get more from selling manually is because you are selling more at a time. Quartermasters can only sell 1 sealed chest at a time, where you can sell up to 2
Yes but the weird part is I'm only getting 4 items per chest instead of 6
i think what's happening is that your selling 2 chests at the same time which is making it look like ur getting more
after slowing the footage down i saw that I was still getting 4 items per chest even with luck 5, which seems to be a bug
I’m pretty sure the only reason ur getting more is cuz ur doing 2 at a time
Yep, he just forgot he picked up 2 chests and the unload only does 1 😂
Yeah lol
its weird because i checked and saw sometimes i got 7 items from opening 2 chests at hand, also theyre supposed to drop 6 items each, not 4, so its really weird
@@arceyplayz I don't know but one thing is for sure, it gives more items :)
Is the exploit that frames people for exploiting and gets them banned fixed yet in the main game?
are you trading/selling your powerful scrolls?
Sold out
How did you get that MANY dark sealed chest:-; last time i lost all my chest because i ran out of stamina 🤧🤧
@yourpalswhiteguard9208 you just do insanity 1 siren islands, you only need 20 islands to get 60
its bad tho but i dont mind it aloth but getting scrolls now is a pain. but question if i fish 1999 fish and i drink luck 5 whould i get 3 sunkens?
3:09 this isn’t a good test. You should have turned them in one at a time.
i slowed down the video and saw that its still 4 items per chest, it should be 6 items per chest
Nice video
whats a good ship setup for dark sea?
(with deckhands)
having 100% stability and 100% resilience, and 20k+ hp is good
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What Fishing rod and enchant do you use for more legendary fish? I know to fish in the dark sea for more legendary fish but I only got 2 for like 2 hours and I'm straight up struggling :(
people glaze toughened but i think graced does the job since colossal automatically replaces the big modifier on fish so there's no point on using toughened unless you really want to brute force the statistics
@@mouthless16 IIRC, the patch notes on the trello said that fishing rod stats don’t affect legendary fish chances anymore. This means you want an Ensnaring Bronze Rod to get as many chances as possible since you can’t increase the chances.
@@IceClancy-jc2cowhat about ensnaring fishmonger's rod?
so is it worth it to use luck iv when opening dark sealed chest?
Not sure, I need to do more testing
Long time since i played thay game bai
in 2:29 you get more stuff cause its 2 chests at the same time
Tho is it double loot or triple? I'm still confused
@@arceyplayz luck 5 rerolls the loot pool twice, so if u open a chests, u get the original chest loot, + 2 extra rerolls, so u open like 3 chests in 1
@@crowsong1 what about sealed
@@arceyplayz same thing, only thing that can reroll and still give you nothing its bosses
Luck fishing parties no more 😔
i forgot that now claimed island will turn into fortress that will be safer to unload your chests
wait if i used sunken pitty with luck 5 can I just get like a ton of them?
not really, but its still untested
Whats the best way to get leg fish scales now?
The same way as before, it hasn't changed
How did you fly forward at 5:49?
i have very high agility
dash reflex i think
Does it affect the outcome of crafting modifiers on gems at all now?
Gem secondary effects still follow the same luck mechanics pre-patch
@@theswordprotector Awesome!
If I reach 2999 fishing and use luck 5, is that 3 sunkens then?
Unsure, but probably not
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So lesser tier of luck just makes chest multiply rarer?
Ye, so luck 4 is guaranteed 1 reroll, and then the rest is like not guaranteed rerolls.
what if i use luck V on my sunken pity
4:53 sunken is 1 in 3000
pity is the 3000th fish actual chances are 1 in 2000
@@nevz861Sunkens are 1 in 3000 for underwater chests and 1 in 1500 for underwater chests below the sea floor.
@@IceClancy-jc2co I mean fishing
nah my natural luck is enough since i found a hecates essence (even tho i did not need it) while looking for a golden cauldron
You were looking for cauldrons in layer 4??? Why?
@@Dual_Ralle no islands spawned in i3 for me so i tried to see if islands would spawn in i4 and it did so i just searched there ;-;
@@Doorman-xc6sp bruh just go to insanity 2 for gilded cauldrons
i forgot to gank.....
The rework sucks, all it achieves is more inventory bloat. Vetex, i DO NOT WANT Pirate captain's hat #37 in my inventory.
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i have no more seals chest.... 😔
so dont use auto unload with luck and instead do it manual?
you can use auto load, it just takes longer since uh your luck can run out
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dude...
youre getting extra items because you open 2 at a time
im seeing 2 bursts of 3
that i know, but when i also counted it, it didnt add up, dark sealed chests give 2 items, and with luck 5 its supposed to give 6 EACH chest, but rn they give 4 only, so it could be a bug.
@@arceyplayz maybe its capped at 4 because it'd be too op
wait, isn't luck additive, not multiplicative?
this isn't that bad for acrimonies
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Well, since you didn't, I will:
Let's define the chance of a Sunken drop as 1/2000,
P(Sunken item) = 1/2000
Given Luck 5, so 3 rerolls,
P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9
P(9 Sunken items) = (1/2000)^9=1/2000^9
2000^9=512x10^24
P(9 Sunken Items) = 1/512x10^24=1.953125x10^-30
Which is:
~1.95*10^28%, aka 0.000000000000000000000000000195% (or about 19.5 octillionths of a percent)
or
1 in 5.12x10^29, aka 1 in 512 nonillion.
Which is among the rarest things in the known universe.
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bro i beg of u to use edward to sell ya chests😭😭
y?
@@arceyplayz does sellin em by hand give any benefits?
@@Eyz0 from what i saw, no actually, its only double reroll for some reason
I read Luck V -> Lucky bruh
Honestly this rework is kinda worse tbh i want better items not more
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I know >:[
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@@arceyplayz it’s a sg server clan that ganks people often
this rework is so ass, the old one was more fun
i think its justified to make sunken more rarer
@graveltheblock5578 personally, I think extra loot is decent sunken or not