I put my gsxs 1000f into the shop recently to get a service, and they gave me the keys to one of these for the day as a courtesy bike. Long story short, it was fantastic to ride, the old mt09 is a blunt instrument compared to this. Surprised to hear that Troy didn’t like the way the bike responded to rolling on from a closed throttle, I thought it was perfect, coming into a roundabout, tipping it in rolling off throttle then back on as you stand it up the bike didn’t pitch forward or lurch back, just let you find a line and follow it smoothly. The cruise control was easy to work out on the fly without having read the manual, but buggered if I know what the rest of the buttons do. If I was in the market for a replacement sporty commuter / tourer this would be high on the list.
My Shoei RF1400 in medium fits perfectly in the side case. You have to put it in upside down and with the front of the helmet facing the back of the bike. I have had my Tracer 9 GT for 2.5 months and have put over 3k on it all ready and have zero regrets buying it!
I agree, Chad. My size LG helmet (HJC RPH 70) fits with no problem in the configuration you described. I’m really enjoying this bike. Anything more would be just too much bike for me at my age.
2 years ago I got a 2019 demo Tracer with 80 miles for $8500 and about $10k out the door after tax and fees. I am really glad I got one when they were still a great bang-for-the buck. The new features are neat, but at $15k list and likely $17k OTD the bargain is gone. It will be a great bike for a lot of people, but will be out of range for its previous audience. It is good to see old FJ09s holding their value. They were a great bike even without quick shift or the game console where the speedo ought to be.
I see your point but it’s partly on the consumer as well most people want the bells and whistles when shelling out for a new bike. I had a 2013 FZ6R and it was an awesome bike for the price and would love a T9 if Yamaha ever made one.
Absolutely! The previous generation GT has it all without those ‘Scuba Steve’ clocks which are mostly unreadable… Exhaust outlets pointing downward below the bike will take in water at the very first chance… 🤔 maybe it is a Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus 😝🤣😂😁 Cheers BB
Exact same boat. 2019 for under 9k OTD! When I get antsy for a new purchase I pull out my PO for my 2019. Will never get so much bike for so cheap again.
This is the new reality. Someone I know that is quite savvy when it comes to finance and money said "It's going to be just like living in Europe". My wife is from France and is actually there right now. Most Americans have no idea how cheap our lives were compared to most other markets. When I first learned what they paid for things like a liter of oil or a battery I was shocked. That's where we are headed in a hurry and then everything will shrink as disposable income fails to go as far. This won't be a huge market anymore and unit price will go up. In 30 years I don't think you'll recognize the U.S. I don't recognize it now.
Going to sell my mt07 for either of these. Been watching some videos coz i cant decide between them. I do touring mostly so i almost swayed. Thank you for bringing me bck
I had the same idea but the mt09 isn’t that great for pillion comfort. The mt09 also doesn’t have electronic adjustable suspension or cruise control. I’m thinking of turning a 2019 triumph speed triple into a touring bike.
@@admnightmarejt Unfortunately we don’t get the SP model in the states which doesn’t make any sense. I would have to get the MC cruise electronic cruise control setup for the mt09 which is around $800. The mt09 is still a big contender for me as well as the triumph speed twin.
I'm with ya. I've got a 2013 FJR1300a, and now am approaching 63,000 miles. It had less than 2900 miles on it when I bought it. I'm 62 years old and feel like I have some touring trips left in me, but am considering something a little bit lighter, just for a change. I've been looking at these reviews for a while too. One thing........ I'm dyed-in-wool when it comes to the Yamaha brand. I've had 6 Yamaha's in the 44 years I've been riding, and love the way they do things. My first was a 1978 XS400, then a 1976 RD400, then an 81 Seca 750, two different FJ1200's 86, and 89, and my 2013 FJR. I've often wondered if Yamaha would ever come out with an inline 6 bike to put head to head against the BMWK1600, and the Wing. I think Yamaha could seize the market. The G-Wing and the K1600 are different from one another, and I can imagine Yamaha coming out with a bike that splits the two and takes both markets. They've proven with the FJR that they can build comfort, performance and utility into a machine. BMW especially, in my opinion needs someone to put them in their place. The K1600 is a maintenance pig, and I think over-rated. I've just never been impressed with bling of any kind, whether the chrome tank Harleys or pretty Beemers that break down.
@@letitrest4662 You are spot on on all the above. I had owned 2 K16 and I swear, money pit. Great machines, if they don't break. And, if the dealer is far, forget it. One was Grand America, new back in 18. Boy, After reaching 15K, just problems and problems. The bike wobbled at high speeds, steered to the left a bit, God helped me, if I was in the back of a large truck. One day, the engine cut off on me at 65 MPH. Reverse clutch was horrible. I got tired and sold it. Now, I ride 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour since new. Nothing but pleasure. The best machine I have owned so far. I am not an HD type of guy and will never ever owned one. I hope too, seeing Yamaha or Ducati coming out with a bike like the GW.
Oh you have a TFT display? That's cute, I have two. This bike makes me excited to schedule a test ride on a V-Strom 650. I'm trolling, but seriously, it's a cool bike but it's too pricey for me.
Its like the fj09, and the deal breaker was the gearing was NOT good for touring. And invasive computer features. Have to turn off the abs and traction each time you ride. At 80mph the motor winding out WAY too high for hwy miles even hurting gas millage . The seat was like a 2x6 and was not a touring bike at all. 2hrs in the saddle and you need a break from the high vibration from the HIGH revving engine.
Full akrapovic system Marchesini forged wheels SW Motech Crash protection bars and pucks Brembo stylema calipers and brake lever Ohlins front forks and rear shock Billet triple clamps Power commander 5
How does an MT-09 come out to $9,400 and the Tracer 9 adjust for an additional $5000 with the same engine, platform, electronics, and even some downgraded parts plus a few creature comforts. I don't see this being a $14.5k bike and selling, A high $11k or low $12k bike and they would sell out of them.
What downgraded parts? An Mt-09 doesn't have Cruise, doesn't have electronic suspension, doesn't have luggage, doesn't have wind protection and it doesn't have the longer swing arm. It's literally 2 different classes of bikes.
lol compare Tracer to naked bike mt09, is that all you got? You not even comparing to the previous gen Tracer 900GT..Do you think that's even fair comparison?
@@xcg1234 i don't think he trashed anything, just shared his opinion. And the naked bike can be a sports tourer, not quite the same but it can be purposeful. For example, my MT10 is equipped with touring stuff and i use it for everything. Hard to even look at the sport touring segment when it does a lot of things great, and one not so...the gas consumption. 😃 🖐️
I find shifting into sixth, there is funny sound that comes out. Anyone care to explain what that is? Another funky thing is trying to find the side stand....not very intuitive. Cool bike otherwise.
I would wait for the new Suzuki GSX-S1000 GT. Quite a bit less money, 150hp, considerable better TFT screen with great connectivity and map display. I believe it will be right around $12,000
@@jonathanwardle2052 I have never had a bike with an imu, means nothing to me. The N1K and gsxs1000Gt are $250 apart without luggage. The Suzuki is about $50 less when both are optioned with luggage.
You wanna tour? Get the MT-09SP with the cruise control, buy a monowheel trailer for all the garbage and a couple Rotopax, dress in warm gear with zips to control wind flow, and go touring.
@@Jtwizzle Anyone can do anything they put their mind to. I've watched video series of people who saddled up a Honda Grom and went from the Pacific NW to Alaska and back.
Can anyone explain why the saddle bags are always being evaluated by "can you fit a helmet in it"? Do you go touring with empty saddle bags? Or maybe you carry your second and third best helmets with you at all times in the saddle bags?
I'll try to answer from my personal experience... Having a two big/wide side cases that make getting on or off the bike more challenging as well as filtering through the traffic, often has a sense when you can actually put your helmet (and the pillion helmet, since this bike is made for two up comfortable touring) in it. Usually, I did use side cases a lot whenever me and my gf go somewhere and stop for a walk, for example. Than we can both put the helmets inside without carrying them or thinking about them staying on the bike. That's not to mention the additional clothes, a jacket, food, etc... Those big side cases on this Tracer should need to have space for a helmet or their use would be not so useful in my case. 👍
I commute on my sport-tourers, and when not touring -- which is 99% of the time I'm riding it -- having a secure & dry place to quickly store a helmet on the bike is a plus. Why have the extra bulk of a side case if you _couldn't_ fit your helmet in it?
When I go to a shop, a bar or a restaurant, I don't want to carry my helmet and my heavy jacket around. I put my helmet in one bag and my jacket in the other one. It's very convenient.
Get de t12... It's just great!! And it's a big solid bike, not a medium 890 cc nice bike but... You know... You miss the feeling and security of a real big tourer bike
Shortcomings: 1) Small tank makes it a short range touring bike. 2) No shaft drive. Who wants to do chain service often? 3) The goggle eyes dash is Annoying looking back at me. 4) Snatchy throttle. Overall: No comparison to my FJR.
200ish miles before a fillup is short range? Unless the bike is extremely comfortable, im looking at getting off it for a break more than every 3 hours anyways.
@@CJ-jp9ye got to agree with that one. I've been a fan of the Tracer 900 GT since launch, but this headlight things (inspired from the R series, which look great) in this new version is oddly weird.
I don't get it either. For me lighting is really important, and I'm not referring to the aesthetics. I want to be able to see and be seen, especially in corners.
I betcha that big old oil sump hanging way down keeps yamaha from using this in any off-road configuration. That monster iswaiting to be cracked open because you ran over a pinecone.
Theres trouble brewing for every motorcycle manufacturer. 20 years ago, we had bikes roughly comparable (maybe better) to this (Honda 929/954/VFR comes to mind). Today these bikes are a little tired, but a quick freshening up with new rubber and payment to the gods of suspension and maintenance. On the high end you'd be in the $6000 dollar range totally done, a little more for things like lowered pegs, bigger windscreens, and luggage. Bikes from this bygone era are plenty reliable even today if treated with a modicum of respect. It doesn't look any better, it doesn't perform any better in 99% of conditions, so is that electronics package worth 9k??? (I do wish those old bikes had ABS, though) Contrast this to the car industry. Cars 20 years ago were pretty crap, and the nice ones have turned to crap. On top of that new electric offerings from all the manufacturers are selling like hotcakes. I'll be towing my 2004 CBR600 F4i with my 2023(?) Ford Lightning, lol.
Uh have you ridden newer bikes? Sorry to say but bikes from the 2000's dont hold a candle to their 2020 counterparts Also quickshifters and cruise control are simply the bomb if you do serious milage. Add on top of that heated grips/seat (if you want it) + a bunch of rider aids. Yeah newer bikes are just plain better
The aftermarket has had good solutions for most of what you've covered and has had so for a long time. Exception are those rider aids and up/down quick shifter. I think that's great but... it's a matter of what those features are worth to you personally. I still need saddle time in something made after 2014, I might find something else to fall in love with that can't be shown on a spec sheet.
The Tracer 900 GT was hard to look at, no matter how competent it was. Yamaha managed to take that model and make it fuglier w/the T9GT. And the MSRP? Laughable. No thanks.
Quite a few differences. Suspension F&R, seat config, weight, electronics, features, wind protection... Worth a few thousand more if you're going to be on the bike a lot. Different purposes. But tossing bags, a "comfort" seat (factory option), and a windshield on an MT 09 would probably be pretty awesome for day trips.
@@allwheeldrive My point was that it’s an accessorized MT 09. The frame, engine, exhaust, dash, etc. are identical. Yes, there’s enough there to make it a “different” bike for sure, but you can clearly see the MT 09 front and center.
@@mikemerrill175 Absolutely not, it’s an incredible platform to work with. I’m probably being to harsh, but I wish they could’ve offered a slightly different aesthetic. Perhaps a modified frame design.
Wow lol Maybe on a big fat highway When doing fast riding on smaller roads the concours will be like riding a two wheeled bus. I'v gone from a 190BHP (tuned) VFR 1200F to the Tracer The tracer is faster in ALL situations except acceleration above 100kmh or top speed. How often do you need to go faster than 250kmh? + Quickshifter / Cruise control / Rider aids is very much welcome coming from a dinosaur like the VFR.
I put my gsxs 1000f into the shop recently to get a service, and they gave me the keys to one of these for the day as a courtesy bike. Long story short, it was fantastic to ride, the old mt09 is a blunt instrument compared to this. Surprised to hear that Troy didn’t like the way the bike responded to rolling on from a closed throttle, I thought it was perfect, coming into a roundabout, tipping it in rolling off throttle then back on as you stand it up the bike didn’t pitch forward or lurch back, just let you find a line and follow it smoothly. The cruise control was easy to work out on the fly without having read the manual, but buggered if I know what the rest of the buttons do. If I was in the market for a replacement sporty commuter / tourer this would be high on the list.
My Shoei RF1400 in medium fits perfectly in the side case. You have to put it in upside down and with the front of the helmet facing the back of the bike. I have had my Tracer 9 GT for 2.5 months and have put over 3k on it all ready and have zero regrets buying it!
I agree, Chad. My size LG helmet (HJC RPH 70) fits with no problem in the configuration you described. I’m really enjoying this bike. Anything more would be just too much bike for me at my age.
J'ai vendu ma super tracer 700 rouge, j'attends la 9gt blue pour février et je suis impatient v à toutes et tous
Still git the bike ? If so what do you think of it now thinking of buying a 2022 gt
I love it. I have just shy of 20k miles on it now. Id love to have the android auto and adaptive cruse control....@@peterjohnston4472
2 years ago I got a 2019 demo Tracer with 80 miles for $8500 and about $10k out the door after tax and fees. I am really glad I got one when they were still a great bang-for-the buck. The new features are neat, but at $15k list and likely $17k OTD the bargain is gone. It will be a great bike for a lot of people, but will be out of range for its previous audience. It is good to see old FJ09s holding their value. They were a great bike even without quick shift or the game console where the speedo ought to be.
You can spring for the base model for cheaper, but you are mostly correct. Everything is getting expensive.
I see your point but it’s partly on the consumer as well most people want the bells and whistles when shelling out for a new bike. I had a 2013 FZ6R and it was an awesome bike for the price and would love a T9 if Yamaha ever made one.
Absolutely!
The previous generation GT has it all without those ‘Scuba Steve’ clocks which are mostly unreadable…
Exhaust outlets pointing downward below the bike will take in water at the very first chance… 🤔 maybe it is a Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus 😝🤣😂😁
Cheers
BB
Exact same boat. 2019 for under 9k OTD! When I get antsy for a new purchase I pull out my PO for my 2019. Will never get so much bike for so cheap again.
This is the new reality. Someone I know that is quite savvy when it comes to finance and money said "It's going to be just like living in Europe". My wife is from France and is actually there right now. Most Americans have no idea how cheap our lives were compared to most other markets. When I first learned what they paid for things like a liter of oil or a battery I was shocked. That's where we are headed in a hurry and then everything will shrink as disposable income fails to go as far. This won't be a huge market anymore and unit price will go up. In 30 years I don't think you'll recognize the U.S. I don't recognize it now.
I hope this doesn’t replace the Fjr in the US. Please make a new Fjr for euro 5 Yamaha.
It's nice to see someone take corners without trying to drag their knee on the ground. 😛 Great review thanks!
Good review, I go with Mt09, just add a touring windshield and 50 L waterproof bag to save $7k difference!
Going to sell my mt07 for either of these. Been watching some videos coz i cant decide between them. I do touring mostly so i almost swayed. Thank you for bringing me bck
Mt09 isn't that comfortable though. I road tripped my 21 MT09SP last year, and i just swapped it for a tracer 9gt
I had the same idea but the mt09 isn’t that great for pillion comfort. The mt09 also doesn’t have electronic adjustable suspension or cruise control. I’m thinking of turning a 2019 triumph speed triple into a touring bike.
@@keltecdan the mt09 sp has the cruise control
@@admnightmarejt Unfortunately we don’t get the SP model in the states which doesn’t make any sense. I would have to get the MC cruise electronic cruise control setup for the mt09 which is around $800. The mt09 is still a big contender for me as well as the triumph speed twin.
Yamaha rocks !!!! FJR, the best bike they ever made...period. Yamaha, please build a bike like the Goldwing, 6 cyl inline and I am in.
I'm with ya. I've got a 2013 FJR1300a, and now am approaching 63,000 miles. It had less than 2900 miles on it when I bought it. I'm 62 years old and feel like I have some touring trips left in me, but am considering something a little bit lighter, just for a change. I've been looking at these reviews for a while too. One thing........ I'm dyed-in-wool when it comes to the Yamaha brand. I've had 6 Yamaha's in the 44 years I've been riding, and love the way they do things. My first was a 1978 XS400, then a 1976 RD400, then an 81 Seca 750, two different FJ1200's 86, and 89, and my 2013 FJR. I've often wondered if Yamaha would ever come out with an inline 6 bike to put head to head against the BMWK1600, and the Wing. I think Yamaha could seize the market. The G-Wing and the K1600 are different from one another, and I can imagine Yamaha coming out with a bike that splits the two and takes both markets.
They've proven with the FJR that they can build comfort, performance and utility into a machine. BMW especially, in my opinion needs someone to put them in their place. The K1600 is a maintenance pig, and I think over-rated. I've just never been impressed with bling of any kind, whether the chrome tank Harleys or pretty Beemers that break down.
@@letitrest4662 You are spot on on all the above. I had owned 2 K16 and I swear, money pit. Great machines, if they don't break. And, if the dealer is far, forget it. One was Grand America, new back in 18. Boy, After reaching 15K, just problems and problems. The bike wobbled at high speeds, steered to the left a bit, God helped me, if I was in the back of a large truck. One day, the engine cut off on me at 65 MPH. Reverse clutch was horrible. I got tired and sold it. Now, I ride 2020 Goldwing DCT Tour since new. Nothing but pleasure. The best machine I have owned so far. I am not an HD type of guy and will never ever owned one. I hope too, seeing Yamaha or Ducati coming out with a bike like the GW.
Oh you have a TFT display? That's cute, I have two.
This bike makes me excited to schedule a test ride on a V-Strom 650.
I'm trolling, but seriously, it's a cool bike but it's too pricey for me.
Good review, thanks!
Wish I could afford that. Might be a good used bike in a couple years!!
Why didn't they make it a shaft drive?
It would have added a lot more weight.
Does the bike produces annoying "chain noise" specially a 120kmhr like the Tenare 700? Should there be a shaft drive or belt drive ?
Its like the fj09, and the deal breaker was the gearing was NOT good for touring. And invasive computer features. Have to turn off the abs and traction each time you ride. At 80mph the motor winding out WAY too high for hwy miles even hurting gas millage . The seat was like a 2x6 and was not a touring bike at all. 2hrs in the saddle and you need a break from the high vibration from the HIGH revving engine.
The helmet fits… you just need to insert it upside down. I have a Schubert C3 Large and it fits without any pressure.
true
So my xxl helmet will not fit 😼
This looks weird without two wheels in the front 😉
Sounds like a great all arounder👌🏾
It’s got the same chain.
Once you’ve had shaft drive….
... you're replacing differentials.
Can somebody explain to if there's a difference between "Sport Touring" like that bike and "Sport Tourer" e.g. Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT?
same thing, no difference
Full akrapovic system
Marchesini forged wheels
SW Motech Crash protection bars and pucks
Brembo stylema calipers and brake lever
Ohlins front forks and rear shock
Billet triple clamps
Power commander 5
Huh I actually like the headlights on this 2021 Yamaha 900
How does an MT-09 come out to $9,400 and the Tracer 9 adjust for an additional $5000 with the same engine, platform, electronics, and even some downgraded parts plus a few creature comforts. I don't see this being a $14.5k bike and selling, A high $11k or low $12k bike and they would sell out of them.
What downgraded parts? An Mt-09 doesn't have Cruise, doesn't have electronic suspension, doesn't have luggage, doesn't have wind protection and it doesn't have the longer swing arm. It's literally 2 different classes of bikes.
lol compare Tracer to naked bike mt09, is that all you got? You not even comparing to the previous gen Tracer 900GT..Do you think that's even fair comparison?
@@monkeyCmonkeyDoo Exactly.. This dude just wanna trash talking about this bike and literally compare a naked bike to a sports tourer... lmao
They'll be on sale for $11k-$12k.
@@xcg1234 i don't think he trashed anything, just shared his opinion.
And the naked bike can be a sports tourer, not quite the same but it can be purposeful. For example, my MT10 is equipped with touring stuff and i use it for everything. Hard to even look at the sport touring segment when it does a lot of things great, and one not so...the gas consumption. 😃 🖐️
I find shifting into sixth, there is funny sound that comes out. Anyone care to explain what that is? Another funky thing is trying to find the side stand....not very intuitive. Cool bike otherwise.
Merci pour cette très bonne vidéo !
Good review.
Nothing can make a ride less enjoyable than tech.
Full Helmet does fit, you need to put the helmet in upside down 👍
I would wait for the new Suzuki GSX-S1000 GT. Quite a bit less money, 150hp, considerable better TFT screen with great connectivity and map display. I believe it will be right around $12,000
Well, it’s actually about $14k
Without luggage and imu.
@@jonathanwardle2052 I have never had a bike with an imu, means nothing to me. The N1K and gsxs1000Gt are $250 apart without luggage. The Suzuki is about $50 less when both are optioned with luggage.
Just saying with the Yamaha having more tech it's going to be more expensive than the Suzuki, which all being said looks like it could be a winner.
@@jonathanwardle2052 I’m trying to sell my fz10 and get the zuke as it’s exactly what I’m looking for
You wanna tour? Get the MT-09SP with the cruise control, buy a monowheel trailer for all the garbage and a couple Rotopax, dress in warm gear with zips to control wind flow, and go touring.
Nah fam 🤣
@@Jtwizzle Yah fam 🤣
🥱🤢
@@Jtwizzle Anyone can do anything they put their mind to. I've watched video series of people who saddled up a Honda Grom and went from the Pacific NW to Alaska and back.
Looks way better. 👍
Shootout
Yamaha Tracer 9 GT
Ducati Multistrada 950S
Kawasaki Versys 1000 SE
BMW F900 XR
Mostly within the relative power, price, and genre. 🤔
Honda NT1100
Can anyone explain why the saddle bags are always being evaluated by "can you fit a helmet in it"? Do you go touring with empty saddle bags? Or maybe you carry your second and third best helmets with you at all times in the saddle bags?
I'll try to answer from my personal experience...
Having a two big/wide side cases that make getting on or off the bike more challenging as well as filtering through the traffic, often has a sense when you can actually put your helmet (and the pillion helmet, since this bike is made for two up comfortable touring) in it. Usually, I did use side cases a lot whenever me and my gf go somewhere and stop for a walk, for example. Than we can both put the helmets inside without carrying them or thinking about them staying on the bike. That's not to mention the additional clothes, a jacket, food, etc...
Those big side cases on this Tracer should need to have space for a helmet or their use would be not so useful in my case. 👍
Agreed 100%. I used to care then one day realized I don’t put my helmet in the bags and was like, why is this important?
I commute on my sport-tourers, and when not touring -- which is 99% of the time I'm riding it -- having a secure & dry place to quickly store a helmet on the bike is a plus. Why have the extra bulk of a side case if you _couldn't_ fit your helmet in it?
When I go to a shop, a bar or a restaurant, I don't want to carry my helmet and my heavy jacket around. I put my helmet in one bag and my jacket in the other one. It's very convenient.
@@Noxxys I'm exactly the same.
good review, gj yamaha!
It would be a tough choice for me between this and a T12. The T12 might be due an update soon. If so it would be a winner all round.
T12 discontinued I believe, T9 in the pipeline 🤞 ?
@@jonathanwardle2052 this is probably a noooooooo.....followed by a yessssssss situation. Are you sure about this?
Super Tenere definitely discontinued in Europe , T9 a rumour at the moment I'm afraid, would make a lot of sense tho' 🤞
Get de t12... It's just great!! And it's a big solid bike, not a medium 890 cc nice bike but... You know... You miss the feeling and security of a real big tourer bike
If the T9 has a shaft drive it will make my day.... dont like the t7 chain noise.
I've been watching Super Troopers and Super Troopers 2 on Blu-Ray this past week... Did Troy say "Meow"? @2:29 :)
cool motorcycle 👍
Definitely needs a belly pan. The oil sump looks too exposed. Nevertheless cant wait for this ride to land here in Malaysia.
It's not designed for off road.
Yeah! I want the R9 too!
Yes, it's calling my name lol
Tester needs to do more research, helmets fit in panniers, don't know what he's talking about with throttle, mine is perfect .
Good review. Have to ride one. :)
You can fit the helmet, need to put it upside down.
I wondered if they have bigger helmets in the USA. But it's funny that none of the journalist could figure it out 😅
My shoe gt air 2 large fits in my 2021 tracer 9 gt and yes upside down
Lol Shoei
Why does everyone seems to want to try to put their helmet inside luggage bags?
Because most bikes dont have a helmet lock anymore and most people don’t want to carry a helmet into stores, restaurants, etc.
I never did. My luggage bag had clothes in it.
@@motorcyclemichael2182
I use my helmet to put my groceries in when I shop.
Can’t watch Troy videos, I’m out.
Shortcomings: 1) Small tank makes it a short range touring bike. 2) No shaft drive. Who wants to do chain service often? 3) The goggle eyes dash is Annoying looking back at me. 4) Snatchy throttle. Overall: No comparison to my FJR.
Modern chains don't require regular intensive maintenance. Throttle response is nigh on perfect on mine.
200ish miles before a fillup is short range? Unless the bike is extremely comfortable, im looking at getting off it for a break more than every 3 hours anyways.
Your bike has a headlight out
Seriously?
@@GPz84 just kidding. but if you own this bike that's what people would constantly be telling you because unless the high beam is set to on
@@CJ-jp9ye got to agree with that one. I've been a fan of the Tracer 900 GT since launch, but this headlight things (inspired from the R series, which look great) in this new version is oddly weird.
Just turn on the brights. More visible for cars.
I don't get it either. For me lighting is really important, and I'm not referring to the aesthetics. I want to be able to see and be seen, especially in corners.
why not a 21-18 version...called Tenere 900?!😏😎
I betcha that big old oil sump hanging way down keeps yamaha from using this in any off-road configuration. That monster iswaiting to be cracked open because you ran over a pinecone.
I think the Tenere series is more focused on off-roading/dual sport, while this Tracer series is more focused on sport touring.
@@eilliwwasniahc yes, but just like the cp2 of tenere 700
Here's how petty I am: I'd never buy a motorcycle with asymmetrical lighting.
Slap a set of LED aux lights on a standard bike. Done.
Can't see it from the riders seat !
Theres trouble brewing for every motorcycle manufacturer. 20 years ago, we had bikes roughly comparable (maybe better) to this (Honda 929/954/VFR comes to mind). Today these bikes are a little tired, but a quick freshening up with new rubber and payment to the gods of suspension and maintenance. On the high end you'd be in the $6000 dollar range totally done, a little more for things like lowered pegs, bigger windscreens, and luggage.
Bikes from this bygone era are plenty reliable even today if treated with a modicum of respect. It doesn't look any better, it doesn't perform any better in 99% of conditions, so is that electronics package worth 9k???
(I do wish those old bikes had ABS, though)
Contrast this to the car industry. Cars 20 years ago were pretty crap, and the nice ones have turned to crap. On top of that new electric offerings from all the manufacturers are selling like hotcakes. I'll be towing my 2004 CBR600 F4i with my 2023(?) Ford Lightning, lol.
Uh have you ridden newer bikes?
Sorry to say but bikes from the 2000's dont hold a candle to their 2020 counterparts
Also quickshifters and cruise control are simply the bomb if you do serious milage.
Add on top of that heated grips/seat (if you want it) + a bunch of rider aids. Yeah newer bikes are just plain better
The aftermarket has had good solutions for most of what you've covered and has had so for a long time.
Exception are those rider aids and up/down quick shifter. I think that's great but... it's a matter of what those features are worth to you personally.
I still need saddle time in something made after 2014, I might find something else to fall in love with that can't be shown on a spec sheet.
Dash so ugly it's a deal-breaker. What the hell was Yamaha thinking.
All helmets fit upside down
Damn, that looks so cheap, not even fork protection? Really?
The Tracer 900 GT was hard to look at, no matter how competent it was. Yamaha managed to take that model and make it fuglier w/the T9GT. And the MSRP? Laughable. No thanks.
Eye of the beholder. I think it’s a GREAT looking bike and feature rich for the price. We all have an opinion I guess.
It’s literally a 2021 MT 09 with a different seat and tank
@@luko560 Exactly, basically bolt on parts to an existing MT 09
Quite a few differences. Suspension F&R, seat config, weight, electronics, features, wind protection... Worth a few thousand more if you're going to be on the bike a lot. Different purposes. But tossing bags, a "comfort" seat (factory option), and a windshield on an MT 09 would probably be pretty awesome for day trips.
@@allwheeldrive My point was that it’s an accessorized MT 09. The frame, engine, exhaust, dash, etc. are identical. Yes, there’s enough there to make it a “different” bike for sure, but you can clearly see the MT 09 front and center.
Not being a smart A, but is that a bad thing?
@@mikemerrill175 Absolutely not, it’s an incredible platform to work with. I’m probably being to harsh, but I wish they could’ve offered a slightly different aesthetic. Perhaps a modified frame design.
All that BS it does don't make up for how ugly it is
Glad yamaha didn't force you to buy it. Otherwise you gonna cry
Those saddlebags are just darn ugly… hate them
I know. Yamaha has great looking side cases on the Tracer 7GT. Why can't they use the same design on this bike?
Picked up a cherry ‘08 Concours for $4K that would suck this Yami up its exhaust all day long. This bike is overpriced and underpowered.
Wow lol
Maybe on a big fat highway
When doing fast riding on smaller roads the concours will be like riding a two wheeled bus.
I'v gone from a 190BHP (tuned) VFR 1200F to the Tracer
The tracer is faster in ALL situations except acceleration above 100kmh or top speed.
How often do you need to go faster than 250kmh?
+ Quickshifter / Cruise control / Rider aids is very much welcome coming from a dinosaur like the VFR.
still sporting the Groucho Marx face ..huh.. distracting