By the very definition of his ideals; if the neutral ground is stronger than his extreme, that is what is right then and he will accept it. Lucifer has a very 'might makes right' attitude. He lost? Fair enough. He's wrong then.
It feels like the Angels are clearly designed in a way that doesn't seem to truly like humans at all. However Lucifer seems more likeable and noble. But knowing that he's a demon, it might be a deception, just to try to win.
@@Gazing-09 In a way, it is. He ultimately is someone whose capabilities lie in tempting others into somewhat decent deals that also benefit him well He isn't disdainful of the Neutral alignment, though he believes that if an ideal is to be achieved, its sponsors must prove themselves worthy of being able to carry it through
newworldfool I agree. I would rather have these two running and have Flynn come in as a third party to save the day than both those corporate shills we have today.
It would have been hilarious if character portraits in SMT4 and SMT4A changed into a derpy grin when you got a smirk during battle. Also, the image of insulting Lucifer is hilarious :D
Anubis is such a good demon for these two, getting both Judgement Light AND Mamudoon. All you really need to do is slap energy drain on him, and you're good
Side with the angels and live a life of strict law mixed with "big brother is watching" peace, where passing judgment on others without question is acceptable. Side with the demons and live a life of freedom mixed with the philosophy of "everyone for themselves", where fighting for survival day after day is the norm. Gee, I can't imagine which sounds more enticing. XD
merky and lucy, both born of yhwh may be refusing to acknowledge him since as far as i remember he's sent by the great will to restore the world to its rightful state (destroy the rogue avatar, yhwh), not a part of yhwh's artificial system.
I just happened to get Mudo first. Also, before this fight I only had 7 skill slots (you get the 8th one really late), so there was no space for hama. I wasn't too worried cause I had a lot of hamaon stones, but I do get a light spell by the end of the video :p
For me, it was a long hard fight because I was underlevelled, under-equipped (no debilitate or luster candy), and overall unprepared because I didn't expect to fight them one after another. Merkabah was a doozey with his one hit kill move that he saves for the end.
I would normally go Law route on my playthrough’s but with IV and IV: Apocalypse Merkhabah made me rethink my choices, as for the Chao’s route I often agree with what Lucifer has to say, though he often dilutes the truth to accomplish his own means. Either way it was a really fun battling against notable ancient deities in a war that goes back to the beginning of the universe
She does however get the ability to give out smirks. And her awakened power pretty much buffs those heals up to pretty much the same level. So it is more that she does not need them but it is also likely a balance issue.
Likely he's wearing the Wise King Bracelet. Since Omega has mostly done a magic build for Nanashi, adding the bracelet bumps up it another 50 points when equipped.
Nope, its the same. Remember this takes place before Flynn fought Merkabah and Lucifer in the Neutral route (and that route changed a long while ago when the Divine Powers appeared)
I mean... they established exactly where this game starts in the continuity in the beginning of the game, why people are STILL asking this is beyond me lol
Oh...I've watched this entire playthrough and legitimately thought this was taking place after SMTIV. *shrug* I've still really enjoyed watching this game.
The reworking of Hama and Mudo spells into standard damage skills meant that bosses could legitimately have weaknesses to them now. Which throws veterans in for a loop after years of ignoring these for boss fights.
![Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse Boss Merkabah & Lucifer [APOCALYPSE]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cV-iar97t0Y/mqdefault.jpg)
![โอ้เธอช่าง... - บี้เดอะสกา ft. ต๋อง เทวัญ (Prod. by ป๋าเพชร) [Official MV]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zbWhiLFmVL0/mqdefault.jpg)
Dagda:"What, your balls drop off, demon king? My Godslayer will kill every last god and demon out there."
i love that line
Trashtalker Dagda is the best Dagda
dagda pure savageness >:)
I like how Lucifer is cool and all with a world without extremes and accepts it's possible even if it takes a long time
By the very definition of his ideals; if the neutral ground is stronger than his extreme, that is what is right then and he will accept it. Lucifer has a very 'might makes right' attitude. He lost? Fair enough. He's wrong then.
It feels like the Angels are clearly designed in a way that doesn't seem to truly like humans at all. However Lucifer seems more likeable and noble. But knowing that he's a demon, it might be a deception, just to try to win.
@@Gazing-09 In a way, it is. He ultimately is someone whose capabilities lie in tempting others into somewhat decent deals that also benefit him well
He isn't disdainful of the Neutral alignment, though he believes that if an ideal is to be achieved, its sponsors must prove themselves worthy of being able to carry it through
I just love how agreeable the prince of darkness is over the supposed all living god
Now this is what i call a political debate.
At least there is some action in this debate and not just 2 clowns yelling and interrupting each other, thats for sure :p
Hillary=Merkabah
Trump=Lucifer
Seems legit.
newworldfool I agree. I would rather have these two running and have Flynn come in as a third party to save the day than both those corporate shills we have today.
Make Chaos great again
Build a wall around Mikado!
İ still can't believe Luficer turned Walter into his weird demon fap arm...
That's worse than being possessed by Mara.
Davian Jericho Worked out fine for Maruo.
Better than casting agi on minator
It would have been hilarious if character portraits in SMT4 and SMT4A changed into a derpy grin when you got a smirk during battle. Also, the image of insulting Lucifer is hilarious :D
Someone should mod SMT4 Smirks to have Derpy Flynn :P
God, the character development for the male companions in this game is AMAZING
Gaston just tied Hallelujah in first place of the Waifu Wars
husbando wars*
***** Sorry Señor Trump, no more mexicano then.
Anubis is such a good demon for these two, getting both Judgement Light AND Mamudoon. All you really need to do is slap energy drain on him, and you're good
I'm convinced this might be one of the most adorable parties in an RPG i wanna ruffle everyone's hair and hug them.
lol
Something doesn't sit quite right with me when flynn made that smile...
Be careful omega...
Poor Walter. Turned into a wicked fap arm. Don't worry! We'll save you!
That grin... Flynn are you OK??
Cleary flynn was smirking after getting an critical hit!
I love how even the game acknowledges as "strange" and "twisted." Derpy sadistic Flynn :D
He Smirked.
Man he isn't even trying.
Outside: ''Well said Gaston, I will aid you!''
Inside: '' *hell yea mah boi let's wreck'em angel titties* ''
7:29 NO ONE BREAKS A SACRED ARTIFACT LIKE GASTON!
*YOU SEE I GOT BICEPS TO SPARE*
"There is no place for extremes in this world"
This is a rather extreme statement.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
No matter how hard I try, I can't unhear the Speedwagon from Flynn's voice.
Enrayquaza
*Even speedwagon fights for neutrality!*
Is it the same va?
@@roamoray Jotaro's VA voices Walter (and Lucifer, by proxy), so there's that too.
Side with the angels and live a life of strict law mixed with "big brother is watching" peace, where passing judgment on others without question is acceptable. Side with the demons and live a life of freedom mixed with the philosophy of "everyone for themselves", where fighting for survival day after day is the norm. Gee, I can't imagine which sounds more enticing. XD
the world ware demons don't rape, kill, and eat you?
Tatty Bogles I'm saying if we could only choose from these two, but yeah that would be preferable. XD
@@tattybogles3156 Why do you think the people that walk out of prison are usually super buff?
@@seg162 they arent wtf
Reminds me so much of society today
I love how casual Lucifer is when he's fighting. "How ya doin'?"
gotta say gaston made a pretty good 180 ever since he joined
Indeed, Gaston has come a long way :p
He's come a long way from harassing Belle. XD
I honestly didn't expect the partners to get a much character development. Gaston has proven that wrong and is becoming a pretty cool dude.
♪,♫ NO ONE TURNS AROUND LIKE GASTON ♪ ♫
I wish they had their second Phases from SMT4 but fighting them both again is still awsome
Ah... yes the time where you get to choose your endings also the boss music for both of them is top notch!.
7:28
> Gaston destroys Michael's spear
7:42
> Gaston has a spear
Where did you get that?
14:15
Holy shit Lucifer knew all along.
P o t t e r 神羅 lucifer did nothing wrong
Merkabah knew it too.
Its because Shesha is a Demon
They can see right through that shit lol
i think that dagda knew as well, if you go back to the moment that the party rescues shesha he goes "..."
oh man, the redesign of merkabah and lucifer is so much better
14:36
Now I can't help but picture Lucifer shrugging to Flynn's derpy smirk.
Is er...is Flynn alright...?
That smirk was kinda terrifying and awkward...
wait till next time on SMT IV Z lol
Gaston finally changes it is time for character development but something is off by flynn
Talking smack to Lucifer was amazing. Granted, his power boosts, but it's still hilarious to see it work.
funny part is im pretty sure flynn is a true messiah hes just being outshined right now since hes not MC anymore rip
merky and lucy, both born of yhwh may be refusing to acknowledge him since as far as i remember he's sent by the great will to restore the world to its rightful state (destroy the rogue avatar, yhwh), not a part of yhwh's artificial system.
Pretty sure they call him false because he's a fake flynn
@@flonnetheangeltrainee1713 Exactly. Merkabah and Lucifer both can see right through Shesha's terrible act
"Tainted body, profane mind, fallen soul... Unclean Ones indeed."
... They both keep saying false Messiah to Flynn. :|a
Hurray that we beat them though. But that's nagging me all right.
Not... really? Its kinda confusing on why they say that tbh.
I already did like... 4 months ago. :v
that 'flynn' is indeed a ~false~ messiah
Dude! You wiped the floor with Merkahbah! Before everyone else had a chance to attack! That's how you prove to be awesome!
Okay... As of now, I'll retract what I said to Gaston before.
Huh, you didn't get the part where Flynn ordered his followers to kamikaze Merkabah. Guess you rekt him quicker.
Goddamn.
Shoutout to old Gaelic gods apparently. Thanks Japan!
hello and welcome to the most dangerous chess game you will ever see
ugh, that disguisting arm of lucifer
Good ol' Walter
what's left of him anyways
_what's _*_left_*_ of him anyways_
/rimshot
Had to end it Thus somehow.
I would've died if we heard a muffled Hoy during the fight
LMAO
surprised that Lucifer's bulging Arm didn't change
that is one epic battle between merkabah and Lucifer. Go Nanashi!!!
If that what a smirk looks like outside of battle?
Man Merkabah really likes the word "Filth"
Seeing Flynn grin was really weird. I wonder if something is wrong with him.
Poor lucifer.
He just wanted to join :(
Merkabah is like "Filth filth filth ewww"
Flynn's smirk though....
Lucifer accept defeat by his own rules and reveal his true nature
7:32 No one snaps spears like Gaston!
Gaston, my boy! Telling it how it is!
I see a distinctive lack of Hama skills in your abilities. Are they not worth or there are other reasons to chose Mudo skills over them?
I just happened to get Mudo first. Also, before this fight I only had 7 skill slots (you get the 8th one really late), so there was no space for hama. I wasn't too worried cause I had a lot of hamaon stones, but I do get a light spell by the end of the video :p
lucifer makes a comeback at merkabah
the world's ending
And this game ends!
Waiittttt...
Lol, whats your opinion on just casually fighting and beating Merkabah and Lucifer right after the other?
For me, it was a long hard fight because I was underlevelled, under-equipped (no debilitate or luster candy), and overall unprepared because I didn't expect to fight them one after another. Merkabah was a doozey with his one hit kill move that he saves for the end.
I would normally go Law route on my playthrough’s but with IV and IV: Apocalypse Merkhabah made me rethink my choices, as for the Chao’s route I often agree with what Lucifer has to say, though he often dilutes the truth to accomplish his own means. Either way it was a really fun battling against notable ancient deities in a war that goes back to the beginning of the universe
Holy shit, Nozomi actually swore for once.
Flynn is being so CREEPY
Holy shit. Asahi can reach level 72 without getting the Diarahan healing spells?
Funny thing is, Asahi never gets Diarahan or Mediarahan.
She does however get the ability to give out smirks. And her awakened power pretty much buffs those heals up to pretty much the same level. So it is more that she does not need them but it is also likely a balance issue.
"You took out Abe!?"
Umm...
Merkabah seems to think very highly of himself. Arrogance at its finest.
Flynn wut
y is flyyn smiling so ... so cruely
Wowowowo..wow.... how the hell you get 350 MAG withouth penalty?
Likely he's wearing the Wise King Bracelet. Since Omega has mostly done a magic build for Nanashi, adding the bracelet bumps up it another 50 points when equipped.
Yes, also he's been putting at least 4 points in magic every level up too
4 Points? Crazy, i do a 3-1-1 build...maybe i'll try it someday...
The merkabah you face in SMTIV, was a fake one?
Nope, its the same. Remember this takes place before Flynn fought Merkabah and Lucifer in the Neutral route (and that route changed a long while ago when the Divine Powers appeared)
sooooo basicly they re did the neutral route
I mean... they established exactly where this game starts in the continuity in the beginning of the game, why people are STILL asking this is beyond me lol
oh yeah, woops sry kinda forgot about that i played the intro, put the game down for a while and went back and kinda forgot stuff :P
Oh...I've watched this entire playthrough and legitimately thought this was taking place after SMTIV. *shrug* I've still really enjoyed watching this game.
Fuck me, I didn't know that Merkabah was weak to death and Lucifer weak to expel.
Took me lots of grinding and fusion to get past this part.
The reworking of Hama and Mudo spells into standard damage skills meant that bosses could legitimately have weaknesses to them now. Which throws veterans in for a loop after years of ignoring these for boss fights.
I only knew that Krishna was weak to Mudo, so I wasted all my Mudo Stones on him and then fused all the demons with Mudo.
I find the thing on the top right corner of the screen but I guess I'll learn it if I get a copy of the game
See that arm of Lucifer? That's Walter.
At least... what's *LEFT* of him!
Nanashi: [rimshot]