McLaren's secretive plan to catch Red Bull in F1 2024
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Have McLaren finally rattled Red Bull? In a season of unprecedented F1 dominance for Max Verstappen, it’s been rare to see him actually have to defend the lead from another car, or debate with his engineer whether he needs to speed up to get the job done.
But thanks to the incredible efforts of McLaren and Lando Norris that’s the situation F1’s triple world champion now finds himself in - actually having to think about another competitor rather than just disappearing off into the distance.
Ever since its mid-season upgrade McLaren has looked like a team transformed - into something that can genuinely beat Aston Martin, Ferrari and Mercedes and be best-of-the-rest. But recently McLaren has started to look like something even more than that.
Christian Horner feels McLaren is now Red Bull’s “closest competitor” and he’s justified in feeling this way.
00:00 Transformation
02:17 Where the deficit lies
06:26 Improving Norris
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Not very secretive is it then?
Shhh don't share this with Horner 🤫
😂😂😂😂
Watch the video. The targets and proportions are being kept secret. That's on a macro level. The micro level simply isn't talked about.
Its like "SECRET NUCLEAR BUNKER" road sign LOL
@rajkishan44 having a plan is not the secret. Every f1 team on the grid has a plan.
It's the content of the plan which is secretive
I really hope McLaren can keep this momentum into and throughout 2024. It’s very interesting how much success McLaren is now having compared to Mercedes despite being their customer team. Hopefully they don’t bugger it up and this isn’t just a short spell of success!
It is because merc and Ferrari have messed up the concept
They won’t catch red bull still a customer team and is benefiting of merc and Ferrari concept mess ups
They won’t have that in 2024
@@j-b-y6707having complete control helps, but you don’t necessarily need to be a manufacturer to be successful in F1. It’s harder to do so, but not impossible. Besides, the 2022 regs level the playing field
It’s amazing how they’ve improved once they had a chance to completely copy the RedBull floor once it was up in the air on a crane for all to see after Perez’s crash in Monaco!
@@mrsoisauce9017they haven’t levelled anything
I love how Lando got out done by his teammate, reassessed and cranked it up to a whole new level showing that he is 100% the number one driver
WOW you have just started watching F1 with that kind of statement? Piastri is a rookie and norris is in his 5 year. Piastri's peak is higher than Norris' and once he figures stuff out he will surpass Norris in no time.
Norris is nothing more than overrated.
@@oransjball ...we have no idea where Piastri's peak will be nor where Norris' is. Can't we just say that they are both good and look forward to the battles rather than wasting our breath arguing and insulting?
@@oransjballprogress is not linear. Piastri might already be near his ceiling
@@oransjball Piastri's peak is higher? How do you figure? Norris has been in a race winning position multiple times due to his "peak" and has let himself down by errors by him and his team. To say Piastri's peak is higher because of one sprint win is just ridiculous. By your logic Ocon has a higher peak than him as well...
I think it was more a problem of Oscar sliding down in the last 3 races (for different reasons) than Lando upping his game.
People always talk about the Austria upgrade but the Singapore package is the big one. The McLaren is now quick everywhere & Lando can drive more like how he wants to. That's huge.
People don't know but the Austria upgrade is not an upgrade, it is the 2023 car. They were literally running the 2022 car at the start of the season.
And they still can't catch an RB that hasn't been upgraded since the summer break. That car is only going to get faster next year, if you can't catch a sitting duck, what makes you think they can leap a moving target? I'm not trying to discredit McLaren, they have done a great job, but I doubt they can challenge RB for the title next season. I still have more faith in the factory teams (well, not Alpine) despite the disaster of a season they've had because they were unable to make the really fundamental changes necessary with in-season development.
@@mrgalaxy396 because McLaren's rate of development could be faster than Red Bulls. That's what Stella has been saying since day one. McLaren didn't just need big performance leaps to catch up to the pack, it needed to have a faster rate of development to leap ahead of them. They've done that for all but one team.
Austria was also just a part of the package, iirc Norris got new front wing at Silverstone that also did a fair bit
@@mrgalaxy396 They abandoned last years car development to build a new car and follow new concept. In recent F1 history, their is no story like that. By the way they switch their development during the summer to 2024 with their new wind tunnels. If they knew they might be so close, perhaps they might have tried developing the car a bit more.
The other teams should be worried about the RB20. You'd have to assume it'll be better than the RB19. Max is winning all races in a car that hasn't had an update in months. He could win 20+ next season.
Say Max wins 19 races this year I don't see that happening again in my lifetime. I think teams like Merc, McLaren, and Ferrari will be much closer to Red Bull next year and even though I think they win next season I don't see them dominating like they did this year, and other teams will have more wins next season imo.
@@TechnoGuy11
I'm almost sure RedBull will dominate again, the teams don't even know what tf they are doing, reason why everyone is so close except for RB.
No other team barring McLaren seem to know what they r doing and why it's working. So if anyone's going to potentially challenge rb next season it's going to be mclaren
@@TechnoGuy11in 2022 when he won 15 new race win record in sesson i tought no way he beat that here we are year later
Mclaren has not had any upgrade since month also. They switch to 2024 car during the summer with the new wind tunnel. They only had to planned parts for Singapore, that's it.
Someone, no ones talk about is Stella. He must be considered on of the best Team Principle on F1 paddock. We heard so much praise about the likes of Mike Krack etc, when aston was at the forefront at the start of the season, but barely about Stella.
This man has done something barely seen in F1. We were a shipwreck last season and Seidl quitting etc. The guy that boat, moved people around within the organization and gave a clear direction.
People don't understand, the upgrades in Austria, were not upgrades, they were the 2023 car. The car we ran at the start of the season was literally last years car. He chose to sacrifice the start of the season, under a lot of pressure, for a new concept and the challenged paid off.
exactly...his calmness is everything
You should be giving praise to the engineering team instead. Leadership is good at direction and keeping the ship steady, but it's the grunt work that gets the results. Kudos to him for being a good manager, but that would mean nothing if the engineering team couldn't figure out how to make the car faster. Just look at Mercedes.
You should listen to his Beyond the Grid interview. It gave me so much confidence in the future of McLaren.
@mrgalaxy396 Stella is an engineer. Just because he is in a managerial position does not disqualify him from taking credit for at least some of the result. Its possible there is some credit to give Seidl for creating a good foundation for the car, although clearly he was unable to focus on the correct direction for aero development.
@@mrgalaxy396 i think it's both, Stella as the leader allows the engineering team to do their best work. From what i've heard James Key was very indecisive and a bit too tunnel-visioned allowing perfect to be the enemy of good enough. Stella seems to be more of the mind that a decision must be made one way or another and then that's that, move on to the next idea.
Are we forgetting that when Maxs engineer told him to push it, he was over 2 seconds faster than Norris on that lap.
Everyone’s trying to catch a moving target . Not good for 24
You seem to be forgetting that at the start of the season mclaren was like 10 seconds a lap slower than the redbull.
Mainly because Norris spent all his energy on the attempted overtake
I dont know if people realize how much max and GP just manage gaps. early on in the season they would go until they had enough gap for a pitstop basically. mclaren has improved so much so now it's just managing any gap theyre comfortable with. a few seconds it seems like
@@stillmillionairand then they coppied there car 😂
I honestly think the biggest benefit of RB's suspension isn't in the kinematics or platform control alone, but the fact that the pullrod front, helps front axle outwash, and the push rod rear gets the pushrod out of the way of the diffuser, while also moving the suspension components out of the diffuser, since on a pull rod, it would occupy the bottom of the transmission case in the diffuser. McLaren also has a push-rod rear, because they make their own transmission.
Pretty sure RB hasn't developed the car for a while now, with their focus fully on 2024...
Why would they need to develop this years?
It’s why a poxy 10% reduction in wind tunnel time was always a joke.
@@joshdawson5850well so is expecting any more punishment for a less than 1% overspend😂. Cry more.
@@joshdawson5850 Less wind tunnel time gives them less options to try out. Red Bull have a great aerodynamics team so will probably be fine. You can't really invent a penalty that takes away their engineering team's knowledge.
I am not saying Mcl will beat Redbull. But Mclaren has not had any upgrade since Singapore, that is 6 races ago. They switch to 2024 car during the summer with their new wind tunnel. They only had planned parts for Singapore, that's it, since then nothing and they will have more wind tunnel and CFD time than Redbull, Merc and Ferrari.
@@danielvilliers612 RedBull haven't brought anything significant since the summer break.
As a mclaren fan I'm here for it, just hope we start next year off on the right foot instead of our usual wrong footed start.
It makes sense that, with the passing of the seasons with stable regulations, all teams tend to be closer, but RB's last significant upgrades came in Hungary, so I'd assume that they've been focusing mostly in 2024 since then. If they start with next year's car that early from here up to 2025, they'll pretty likely win every until then
I am not saying Mcl will beat Redbull. But Mclaren has not had any upgrade since month also. They switch to 2024 car during the summer with the new wind tunnel. They only had planned parts for Singapore, that's it, since then nothing.
@@danielvilliers612 absolutely true, but while McLaren seems to be starting to understand their car, RB is significantly ahead in this regard. Also, McLaren still has to solve their unpredictability and low-speed corner issues, while RB has no significant weakness and can focus on improving here and there
@@danielvilliers612 That's not how it works, there is a several month gap between development and bringing the upgrade to the track. That means when RB's last update landed in Hungary, they were done with development for this year and switched to next year before McLaren even brought the Austrian package to the track. Assuming a similar gap between development and bringing the upgrade to the track, RB has at least 3 months of development advantage over McLaren. Not looking good for them, especially since McLaren still couldn't beat the RB19 even with the final package introduced.
That's what the picture looks like if we assume that Red Bull will build an advantage in 2024 at their current rate of success but there are no guarantees. While I think Adrian Newey is the most innovative car designer in the industry and has produced championship-winning cars for McLaren and Williams prior to Red Bull, it was Mercedes who dominated the first generation of the turbo hybrid era. It also takes a complete package of chassis, power unit, drivers, and reliability to win Constructor championships and if a team other than Red Bull can challenge for wins at some circuits then Red Bull will need a stronger driver pairing than Checo is currently able to deliver.
well RB also threw on a new floor in Singapore, promptly switched back and then put on again the new floor in Suzuka.
RB has said they thought the rb19 was decent at best and they were suprised they were so far ahead of the rest. That just tells me that they have a lot of ideas on how to make the rb20 a rocketship.
RBR Propaganda I Think... Everybody else just produced bad cars...
Pierre Wache himself said the RB19 was pretty much a perfect car from an aerodynamic perspective.
RedBull's main concern at Brazil was not Mclaren. Instead they were very keen on the tyre management. Max was going very light on the tyres and keeping Norris at bay just enough for a reasonable gap.
LOL, you know more that horner and the whole redbull team.
Nah, Max is always pushing as much as the tyres/car can take. He was pushing as fast as he could until the last stint where he got a weaker PU mode and was cruising home. Norris could basically match Max‘s pace over every stint until the last 5 laps or so where RB had better tyre deg. That McLaren is a rocketship now and should really already have atleast 1 win this season.
@@Reaz399so that mclaren is rocketship now what we call that red bull now a speceship 😂 but speaking about red bull max has better tyres deg is it should be the other way around max last pit stop he pit first so lando should have better tyres deg and his fastest lap was 1.5s faster than max fastest lap he did it in his last stint so i think max verstappen was managed his tyres majority of the race only push in first stint especlly when lando close to his DRS and speaking of lando mclaren should won a race this sesson i think maybe in qatar so who know if lando didnt have his time deleted in Q3 and start in front row their pace was so fast
It reminds me of "The Tortoise and The Hare".
@@Reaz399max hardly ever pushed this season, he's just managing, only in Qatar did he push alot and look at the distance he finished first there. Also rb hasn't brought an update in half a year so let's see what next year can do
That's why Adrian Newey worked on suspension for these regulations, not the sidepods. Also, Red Bull and McLaren are the only teams that have pull-rod on front axel and push-rod on rear, hence the reason why McLaren was able to make such a jump in performance mid-season
It was done last season, that might be the only good thing about James Key.
Yes, Newey talked extensively about this, vehicle stability is the key, not the sidepod nonsense we have been shown for the last 2 years, not floor changes, or so much else shown as upgrades. He was only one to address this and the car shows
I suspect next years McLaren will emulate the suspension characteristics of this years RB. Like the OP said theyre the only 2 teams to use that layout for the last 2 years.
Not that simple
@@zeberto1986McLaren were first to show the suspension not red bull
Red bull stopped upgrading their car half way through the season like. Please stop with this, McLaren have zero hope😂😂😂
McLaren have been on pretty much full development with there 24 car since early july 😂😂
Can't be that secret if it's on TH-cam.
To be fair they haven't said what is in the plan just that they have a plan to try and catch RB next season
Well, one thing to remember: RB has concentrated for a long while now on the 2024 car. I think they will start 2024 again like shot out of a cannon
"Have McLaren rattled Red Bull"?
Well seeing as how Lando got his nose alongside Max's rear wing once and then Max was immediately like "that's enough of that" and pulled out a 2 second gap probably means that Red Bull has plenty of pace in hand and just considers McLaren a bug at this point.
Sorry to dash all your hopes.
Yup. Lol Max was driving on a certain laptime to warm up his tyres calmly. That’s the only reason Lando came close. Lando damaged his tyres immediately cost of that fast lap lol the next lap Max drove the NORMAL laptime 😊
This is going to be the most crucial winter for Mclaren. If they actually get their issues sorted they will genuinely be in it for the title
Give Piastri a couple of years, and he's gonna be on top. His rookie season has been spectacular.
Shhh...you're talking to a bunch of Brits that are trying to ignore that...
@@Scottie_S yeah I get that vibe too haha
Agreed
McLaren has 2 drivers.
Redbull has 1,5 drivers.
Big difference
And aston Martin has 1 driver
Bro if you put Piastri in that RB next to Max he'll do worse than Checo.
max has won the constructeurs cham,pionship all alone he is worth 2 drivers
Obviously max is a better driver than checho, however, every driver must feel comfortable In the car they race in otherwise they will not be able to take it to the limit, and at rb everything is suited for max, so I give checo some excuse, plus rmb albon and gasly also struggled with the pointy car..
@@titancheat And one aspiring tennis pro 🤣⛳
to be honest mclaren and aston making the jump they have this year reminda me of renault and BAR in 2004. the best team's two biggest rivals underperforming massively, made worse by the best team having an all-time great car
Interesting parallels when you think about this
Guess we need the 2005 tyre rules next season (sarcasm lol)
People are catching RedBull because RB has moved on to developing next year’s car while other teams are still fighting in the championships. We won’t know anything until we’ve seen a few races in 2024.
All the teams have been developing their 2024 car for some time. Mclaren started after the summer break.
Without Verstappen driving Lando would be placing 1st so proper respect to Verstappen for his dominance on top of the RB’s performance.
People need to relax Red Bull haven’t
had a major upgrade since before the summer break and other than some track specific bits and it’s still beating other teams,,,
This was an outstanding video. I’m glad to see you giving Lando and McLaren the credit they’re due. And, you did it with style, great audio, and great footage. Thank you! 🏁🏆
Mclaren has progressed impressively no doubt.but dont be fooled that they are contenders all of a sudden.that tenth of a second is what it is all about.the most difficult bit to find.they have to at least match red bull and then find a few tenths extra in race trim to compensate for the huge difference in drivers abilities in hard racing.
Max has raw speed as well as experience of fighting hard against the very best where as lando and oscar dont
9:18 - The plan you just described basically just means “wait for 2026”. Step 1: Wait for RBR to hit concept limit & the field to converge 2: Be ready to strike. _Brilliant!_
Max and Redbull are so far ahead idk about this
In the Brazil GP Max was trying to DRS train Lando away from Lewis, as soon as it was obvious Lando would attempt to pass when close instead working together Max took off doing laps MUCH faster then Lando until he was comfortable then just drove it home
Apart from the suspension, what Mercedes need to focus (apart from the aerodynamics) is on reducing the size of their gearbox and cassette which seems to be the largest on the grid. That will allow for better and more controlled airflow in that area.
worth noting that McLaren, as the highest scoring merc powered team in the 2nd half the season, is the only merc customer to make their own gearbox.
Rb haven't had to touch their 23 car since summer. They're not worried
The glazing on McLaren and Norris on the video is insane lol
Tell me about it. "Oscar's pace hasn't been there at all" "Norris out racing Piastri, and even in Qatar had better pace whilst Piastri finished ahead". They're defending Norris, then when it comes to Piastri which the last 5 races have been low grip and high temps which introduces tyre graining and then the last 3 races he's had damage through no fault of his own. Severe sidepod damage in the USA, severe sidepod and floor damage in Mexico and severe diffuser and rear brake duct finlet damage in Brazil. There's the reason why he has been slower. But to say that Norris has gone to another level in the last couple of races is just DTS fan stuff
Mclaren have been given more credit than it deserves. It had introduced a good upgrade package mid season but the main reason is because redbull have stopped developing the rb19 before the summer break. So..............
I really how McLaren can push on over the winter and genuinely challenge at the top in 2024. Would be great to see it after so many years of difficulty
The sports desperately needs a challenge at the front that’s for sure
This is just like Merc and Red Bull when Merc was dominating. They switched off development early and the teams closed the gap ....but then status quo was reinstated by start of next season
And that's just it. For only a moment, Max had to think about another competitor, then it was off into the distance, business as usual.
I wouldn't put my hope up too much, we need to remember Red Bull had stopped developing this year's car a long time ago, and still there was still a clear gap (for race pace especially) between them and the dramatically improved McLaren.
Mclaren also started next year development from June-July already , and rb having lesser wind tunnel time only leads to mclaren catching them more through 2024 as well
@@lostmind24 I think redbull's "punishment" has already finished.
@@yaaaawwn without the punishment , also they have less wind tunnel time than mcl
@@lostmind24 that is true. Due to them being first. Personally I believe them having Newey creates a difference.
@@yaaaawwn newly is great but rub isint gonna be what it is with just newey .Adrian was in their team from so long it’s not like he always built the best car so there is a chance
When you mix in video game footage, I sometimes get confused on what I'm watching. The game footage is extremely lifelike these days. Good video though. Hope to see all the teams get even closer to each other next year. To be fair, the racing has been pretty good this year.
For the last four or five months Red Bull have been working on their successor car. While everyone has frantically been trying to catch up to their current setup, they will probably have an even more leap once winter testing shows up.
Congrats for 1 million subscribers
My brother in christ, Piastri got a major hit into the first corner, still had damage after the red flag (they couldn't fix it fully) and he was 1 lap behind. WTF are you talking about when you are saying Lando was "significantly better" on Brazil?
Piastri ate his tyres again in Brazil and he crashed off in Quali. So yeah, Lando was much better than Piastri in Brazil
the race needs to calm down, RB are never as dominant on sprint weekends as they need alot more time to optimize the car,
Glad you clarified “F1”, I was concerned McLaren’s ambition was to overtake them in the energy drink market….
Kinda reminiscent of how rb were when merc were dominating. Mercedes came out strong and then levelled out and started work early on next years car whilst others brought upgrades and eventually caught up/beat them. Not much in challenging them with 2 races to go and both championships finished months ago
Was no Q2 or Q3 in Brazil. It was a sprint weekend. Wake up
Cant wait for them to be around the mid field when 2024 comes around
Thanks a lot 👍
Meanwhile Red Bull stopped developing the RB19 in May or June to work on 2024 while McLaren hasn't stopped developing their 2023 car. That's the crazy part. Red Bull can still save its tires and pull away without any major upgrades in what 12 races?!
Haha. 2024 will be interesting
can we all remember Redbull haven't done any development on the RB19 in some time, in 2024 they are going to SO FAR AHEAD!
I have a tremendous amount of respect for Zak Brown. I would love to shadow that guy for a week.
One thing i can say with confidence is that they are not close i believe there is more in that rb19
Max goes as fast as he needs. Everything else is engine/tire management.
I watch every video you guys put out and I think its some of the best f1 content out there but can you please use higher definition video game footage? even the real stuff can be put through a video upscaler but the low quality f123 footage is atrocious
For everyone who wanted limitations on in season development and cost caps, this is what you get- a team nails the formula and nobody else can catch up very quickly.
Literally this lol
You either have a budget cap and open innovation or you have no budget cap and very tight regulations
Having a budget cap and such tight regulations kills innovations and the price for initially getting it wrong is now heavier than ever before you can’t introduce a true b spec car etc etc
This era of car there’s clearly one archetype of car that works which is the RB model now Mercedes and Ferrari are paying dearly for it and RB have a locked in advantage like never before
No one caught up to Merc until the 4th year of the turbo-hybrid era, and even then they (Ferrari) lost. Were they also hampered by the budget cap?
Aston were like this in the beginning and then got nowhere. This feels like mclarens spell. Still gotta wait and watch if this is permanent
Left field thought, but maybe the RB19 is already as good as it can be., development is not exponential, it is incremental and diminishing as a car reaches peak optimization. RB19 came out the box great and it maybe can’t get much better. Of course being best car by some margin, it does need any more increments. It’s always the last few tenths that are the hardest to find.
Wdym bruh, the car hasn't been upgraded for almost half a year lmfao. And still nothing catches it.
@@screamified409 they are catching up. That’s the point.
😂😂😂 the RB19 can’t be any better you think lol you are funny
@@Redlingstein you may be having comprehension difficulties there.
Its was Mercedes Versus ( McLaren & Aston Martin ) This season and next season they gonna fight themself not fight with Red Bull
Don't worry, every team will have to play catch up in 2024 when Red Bull and Newey create an even better package than this year.
This is why F1 is a beautiful sport. You're watching science in action and how these engineers (and drivers) manipulate it on and off track
Suspension is the most important part of the car to get right for this generation of F1 car. It defines how low you can have the floor to the ground, how balanced the car can be in the corners and how long the tyres last. The engines are similar at this point and can't be developed.
One thing I just noticed... The pirelli hats on the podium have the US flags backwards in Austin...
RedBull hasnt improved on the RB19 for some time now and has been focusing on the 2024 car ! So yeah McLaren was able to catch up to it by bringing upgrades all this time. But 2024 is going to be another year of MAXattack and his 4th championship title IMO !!
If Mclaren is able to beat three teams in half a year means, the benefit of the doubt can be given to other three teams right? Because the other three are not a long way off
Short of taking out Max, any such plan is highly unlikely to succeed. That aside, your big mistake is to compare McLaren's latest upgrades to an RB19 that hasn't been upgraded since the early part of the season. And why is that? Because Red Bull have been putting all of their efforts into their next car.
I just never thought Mclaren could turn it around as quickly since rejigging targets since 2020... especially ahead of Mercedes HPP
People always list how Mercedes are only closer to rb this year bc they stopped developing the rb19, but conveniently forget that the McLaren has had like 3 gigantic packages throughout the season and an uncompromised chassis
i really hope mclaren can keep it up and deliver a good car next year
So: the suspension takes away the suspense from us.
Because Redbull is hardly developing their 2023 car anymore.
Secretive plan? Have car go fast is as complicated as that plan has to be.
Is it just me or is section at 1:51 taken from the F1 video game?
THE MCLAREN CYCLE: Bring a tractor to the season opener, soak all their resources into developing it, ignore the next years development til the last moment, end the season with a very respectable car, repeat.
Lets see if their shake up this year might fix it...
If you are going to use gameplay from the F1 game, could you please turn up the graphics?
I know posting videos of 'there's no chance' isn't fun, but the teams having multiple updates and still being behind a non updated RB19... there is just a lot of hope that Newey's changes will stagnate the RB20 while everyone else continues to make leaps.
I’m all for the chasing pack knowing what they need to improve, but they should all be scared about what Red bull will come up with for next year too
I believe Andrea Stella said they’ve been working on next seasons car since July. If this is true maybe red Bull won’t have as big of a head start as we thought🤔
Exactly, people who don't follow MCL don't comprehend. They switched to next years car as they startd with their new wind tunnel in the summer. By then they only had some minor upgrade in Hungary and a bigger one in Singapore. The thing what no one talks about they never planned for these upgrade to be that good. The plan from end of last season was to abandon the 2022 car even if it meant having the 2023 car only in Austria and then the focus was more on 2024.
And with the fairly small upgrades RedBull brought this year, where do you think all of their development went? And RedBull also has a guy who has way too much knowledge about ground effects.
@@mintgoldheart6126 Agree, but where/when did RB's cost cap penalty in dev time got it's effect?
@@Wuppie62 this year.
Question for you
When do you think RB started working on their 2024 car? I wouldn’t be surprised if they been working on it since at least May with the advantage they have had
The way the regs and budget cap is setup it’s hard to fathom anyone challenging RB till at least 2026
Adrian Newey has remarked at times that it is not as much down to aero; it's down to suspension. Stella has grasped that. McLaren versus Red Bull will be the story of 2024. I'd love to see Norris win some races. I'd also love to see Ferrari do well at least on some tracks. Mercedes? Blech, hope they drop out of the top 5 teams.
McLaren has a major former RBR engineer bought into the team, remember… McLaren bought RBR engineering info
Not so secret now, eh? I’d always assumed that any other team’s plan to beat Red Bull would basically boil down to “build a quicker car”.
Norris needs a WIN!
@@pinky6863 honestly an entire season without in-race mechanical gremlins for max is an astonishing thing
I highly disagree bcz it's not all about the car and clear examples are Silverstone and Austin. It's not all about the car in the end drivers make the difference hence the salary gaps.
Red bull hasn’t been developing after the summer break since mclaren has been I’m not surprised they have closed in
"Have McLaren finally rattled Red Bull?"
I'll take "Rhetorical questions to which the answer is 'no'" for $500 😀
Hasnt RedBull stopped upgrading for 2023? Some of these apparent gains might disappear come the start of next year considering the RB19 is set in stone and as good as it'll get
Mate, you don't know how to use the word "rattled". If you have an overtaking opportunity for 1 minute in a 90 minute race, that sir is not rattled. It's like you started watching racing this year.
what a year for Lando.
I see more $$$ in his future lol
Its free to dream. as long as redbull, PU honda and adrian newey, max combination . no one will close to them till 2025.
McLaren may be the only team who _can_ challenge Red Bull. The key to Red Bull's speed in the straights, and when DRS is open is the aero benefits that come with the pushrod rear suspension. This design moves the mechanical components UP and away from the Venturi tunnels, allowing the floor, the diffuser and the beam wing to work better. No matter how the other teams copy or massage the side pods, as long as they're using a rear pullrod suspension, they're restricting air flow in a critical area.
Even if the other teams finally realize that their rear suspension design is restricting air flow, it will take at last a full season of running a new chassis and suspension layout to learn how it works on the various circuits. Red Bull will come out ahead of the rest of the field again next year, with McLaren nipping at their heels.
Mercedes has admitted again that they do not understand why they cannot compete with Red Bull. It's because they're married to a mediocre chassis.
RBR’s strength isn’t the straights. Max in P1 doesn’t have DRS or slipstream… RBR’s strength is tyre management, constant fast race pace, and strong and pretty solid and easily set up for all tracks (except Singapore) lol
2024 be looking really good so far. Red Bull, Aston Martin & McLaren 3 way championship battle
😂😂😂 you believe these fantasy vids
No matter how much i would like to see mclaren beat red bull. Red bull are just too good with Max and im sure it will be the same in 2024
Mcparen have continued to upgrade, RB have been upgrading next years car
McLarren will go to Bahrain with the 9th quickest car, and have to sale up the grid by Silverstone again, as they do every year.
Nope, this year we have Stella at the helm and regulation are not changing. They have already switched to 2024 car in the summer and every bit of knowledge gain during those last races will be valuable as next years regulation are the same.
as they do every year? when have they done this in the past?
McLaren are closer yes but...
- Redbull has not touched the car for most of the year
- we also don't hear about trans issues so my guess is that added weight to the car to make it more reliable
- engines were likely turned down to improve reliability
McLaren stopped developing on their car in July so upgrades were already in the pipeline Stella said
"Horner thinks the field will concertina and become closer"... just in time for another major rule change to mess it all up again!
Please make your videos longer, I can't sleep this fast, your videos are great to doze off
Sounds like launch control for RB. The rest will soon follow and hopefully it is outlawed
Eat him up? Lando was on him for 1 lap… the first 8 corners. After than lando was never in a position to overtake max
Feels weird not having edd Straw narrate the vids😅
Beating Red Bull openly is a nono in F1.
To think that McLaren literally came out and said “this car sucks we know” and now we’re here
Solid 👌🏼