The fact that the game watch time is about 3 to 3 1/2 hours and highlight game play is like 12 minutes of action and the pace is slow as shit with all the commercials and game stoppages ect.... I agree. It's bullshit that every play is not able to be monitored, reviewed and upheld or reversed without even involving the on field crew is ridiculous. With common sense most of it wouldn't take much more time and even if it did, idiot assholes like myself would still waste another hour watching.
@Stratoliner5 NFL Officiating is very shady, and should be evaluated by the League after every game. Most People will eventually stop betting on these games Once they get a feeling it’s fixed.
I tried to edit it down as much as I could. I don't like doing long videos because in the past my videos would get blocked by the NFL if they were really long but this week was impossible, It was so bad and I didn't even add any controversial hits that were flagged this week.
Sorry bruh. That's your trauma speaking. You have been watching so much game tampering that you are conditioned to normalize bad calls and only see the egregious. But your poor memory slightly recalls what it was like to see a clean game once....that is why you are on a video of horrible calls. Not to criticize, but because your inner self yearns to see the truth once again.
@@10mm69 I dunno about that, it's been really bad for a long time. I remember years ago every wildcard game came down to a bad call by the ref that decided the winner. I'm glad people are becoming more aware though.
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
@@chadhOneAtl nah.. but there shouldnt be some rules for yee and not for thee.. and if ya legit watch football, u know this is a thing and happens all the time for certain players and certain teams
Refs help teams win when they shouldn’t every week every year. The Browns never get help from the refs so they deserve some horrible officiating going their way for once
🤣 so the ref had 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, jumped over the line to block a fg, 9 tackles?? no that was myles...... weird how your dude hold a guys arm the whole way thru the endzone and you claim its not a penalty😂😂😂 shit would have been called even if he didnt throw it to him🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and the same on the fumble, dude got ran thru, decides to grab onto his arm instead of just going down"which hes taught to do cause a penatly is better than getting burnt" and you wanna say the refs are helping them.......the only team to this day to have a play called back 3 plays later and the game not even able to be finished cause the refs were so bad????? yea fucking right hahahahaha your corny copium is dead lol
The illegal contact I thought was a decent call. The DPI, that was a horrible call. Ball is uncatchable and hand fighting is legal with zero restrictions
and on top of it, even if he throws that ball into the stands, it would have been called a hold, so take your pick. either way you cant hold a receivers arm the whole way thru the endzone, and you cant grab a dude when he cooks you lmao
@theteeman it doesn't matter. Listen to fucking gene, he said it himself. Uncatchable balls are not like oh it was a foot too fan. U catchable balls are like over exaggerated. That's not the spirit of the rule. You can't twist rules to make them benefit your team
Holy shit you were not kidding about this being the worst week! Normally there are some where I can kinda see it from the refs side, but I haven't seen any yet where it seems like an easy mistake
Vegas and the bookies have deep pockets. One bad call from the refs and they're swimming in green. Last week Bijan missed the entire game and with 3 minutes left he rushed the ball for 3 yards for absolutely no reason to void any Bijan bets so Vegas most definitely called, I guess his headache or whatever was wrong with him went away.. Sports is plagued by sports betting it's never going to be the same. Man I miss early 2000s-2010s.
Yeah, now that online betting is so big, and its not just betting at a casino or a bookie, there is billions at stake every week. They are also making schedules w "computer simulation" and ai, so there is definitely too much room for this type of thing.
Spot on.. And even the 2000s were bad. Remember SEA-PIT SB, SD-PIT game, AZ-PIT SB, NE-SL SB, NE-Raiders-01, just to name the biggest games that were obviously fixed.. Anyway, since NFL went to bed with the gambling industry, "sports" media posting lines 24/7, turning young pipo into addicts losing all their parents money, all is cross. It never was as bad as nowadays. Funny side note: Raiders never won anything since Al Davis went to war with the other owners, but Raiders being top 3 in penalties 80% of the seasons since 1983. Coininidence? If you believe in a 1:1 billion chance, yes. Otherwise not.
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
Overall they are QUITE GOOD at watching so many different aspects of the game. And just to be clear, everyone else (statistically) who wants to do this job is worse at it. There's no angel hernandez of NFL football.
@@zachansen8293 Some are, some aren't. It's just silly when there are this many blatantly wrong calls, that get spotted by the commentators of all people, that are then still upheld. What it is the point of all that sophisticated technology if they're going to still give away free touchdowns on bad calls??
The NFL is getting harder to watch every year. And the fact that they refuse to add a "sky judge" to oversee calls/non calls only fuels the conspiracy theories. With all the technology we have available, there really is no excuse to the bad calls week in and week out. We as the consumer deserve better...
Usually, I would call "worst week" hyperbole, but there is something seriously wrong with NFL crews. Especially in that Colts game. It's rarely so blatantly obvious that something was wrong.
I wouldn't say the Colts bad calls were blatantly bad. First one might have been ticky tack, but is called at times. PI penalty wasn't pi but most likely holding Blatant was Cooper being in bounds but being called out of bounds earlier in the season Duke Johnson(Cle) coming out of a fumble scrum holding the ball while the refs watch a couple of Washington players fighting for air and awarding the fumble recovery to Washington was blatantly bad. Reviewing a previous play after another had been ran is blatantly bad Browns rarely if even ever since 99 had bad calls go in their favor and always have gone against them 49ers game I don't want to hear about those because those"bad calls" were pretty damn close. One, his arm was moving forward albeit slightly before ball came out and was still called for intentional grounding. Other if viewed lived looked like the penalty. Only seeing it in review you'd see it wasn't but was mere inches from being so. AND 49ers still had a chance to win but missed an "easy" FG . Also there were a lot of bad calls in that went against the Browns in the 49er game including a phantom hold that brought back a TD. Also refs nearly got away with calling a 49er penalty against the Browns instead. They just happened earlier in the game but people tend to forget about those. But refs have been terrible and a lot of Browns fans would be in favor of having penalties being reviewable after being screwed so many times.
And the Miami game. Dolphins had 10 penalties, and the Eagles had 0. It's only happened like 15 times in NFL history or something like that. And there were clear, game-changing no calls. It's all about that Vegas money, and guiding the teams they want to the SB. Not to mention, the head ref in the Phili/Miami game grew up 25 miles outside Phili, and was kicked out of College ball of for this sort of garbage. Sounds like an NFL-quality guy to me.
What game changing calls are you talking about? If it was the face mask, dolphins got a pick 6 on the next play. If you are talking about the pick Tua threw, in real time it was a bang bang play. Of course if you slow it down it does look like a PI, but hey you can catch ALOT of penalties in slow motion. One of the holding penalties the dolphins got a sack, but would've been declined. The roughing the passer was weak, but this has always been a thing since brady... We going to talk about the clear td hill dropped? I just see dolphin fans making whatever excuse they want. What was the excuse for getting messed up by the bills? Only fans that should be sour is the colts and rams xD I will feel bad for them... not dolphins though they got out played.
@@jameswiest2171 bad calls are bad calls. Just because they aren't "game changing" in your eyes doesn't mean they are game changing. Let's say if a ref misses a face mask, that next play might have changed and been a running play that broke off for a TD instead of a pass that gets returned for a TD. It can still swing momentum. And personally I don't think the colts bad calls might be as bad as people are making them out to be. That PI wasn't Pi due to uncatchable pass, but it still would have possibly been D holding. Difference of a couple yards might have made a difference or might not have. Also, NFL doesn't define what uncatchable ball means which might be why it's not called as much as it's too much refs discretion. But I'd like to have reviewable penalties more and better definition of uncatchable to get refs all on the same page. Idk why they're not called as much but I wonder if it's just highlight reels of some passes that look like they are going to be uncatchable get caught. Not saying that ball in Indy game was even possible to get caught. Butb just because a bad call doesn't seem to have a game changing result doesn't mean there is none. There was a hold call in the Browns -49ers game that doesn't appear to be holding after reviewing it that brought back a Browns TD. Browns had to settle for a FG drive. That a 4pt swing and would have been a difference in the end but no one sees that bad call because it's ignored due to the idea that the beginning of the game doesn't matter as much as end. But even if that TD stood, it could have changed the way either teams played. Browns could have scored more due to a momentum swing and 49ers might have took more risks that paid off or not paid off. 🤷♂️ but in the scheme of things that 4pt swing is just changing the game.
I tried to edit it down as much as I could. I don't like doing long videos because in the past my videos would get blocked by the NFL if they were really long but this week was impossible, It was so bad and I didn't even add any controversial hits that were flagged this week.
@@budleewiserit's not ur fault that week 7 has this many terrible calls! Btw the NFL has admitted that the refs messed up several calls this week, but does that actually mean anything going forward?
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
Not sure why anyone thinks it would fix anything. Replay often doesn't get it right. See the "fumble" replay from the Chiefs game Sunday. Clearly not a catch so couldn't be a fumble, but review upheld the call. If anything, this would give the NFL more levers to pull in their quest for story lines.
It's less the refs and more the fact Gambling is very closely related to Football. When you hear football, someone's talking about fucking betting. Watch a football ad, they're talk of betting. No advertizement of players and their best moments from the season before (or current season), just... betting. Sure, refs have been bad too, but they're shockingly not the main issue. Something easily fixable, but the betting thing needs fixed first.
So true . & then people say the chiefs pay the refs😢 Bro these refs have been meatriding the Eagles & The Bills as well it makes no sense to blame a team just because they won a Super Bowl.
As a Phins fan, watching that game hurt. Sure, I can bear with my team losing a few games but not like that. That whole fucking game was one-sided in the Eagles' favor. Why? They're the underdogs and some Pig in a suit at Vegas just needs to line his/her pockets with more money than they know what to do with. It pisses me off that the sport is no longer about strategy, skill, talent and having the knowledge. It's all about how much money can some asshat make when they're not actually involved with the sport. Betting has ruined the sport.
Refs really need to be held accountable for these god awful calls. Players have to answer to the media after every game, but refs get away with every decision it seems like.
The NFL made funny commercials about the season being scripted. As the season moves on, doesn’t seem so funny with weeks like this and how awful the refereeing turned out.
The refs literally stole a game from Indy with that defensive contact call. And though the Dolphins didn't play well, the Eagles got away with way too many penalties.
The Peoples-Jones play, he was being held and pulled away from the back of the endzone. If he was able to get to the back of the endzone, he may have been able to jump up vertically and catch it. Because he was held/pulled, it looked like it wasn't catchable. The Cooper play was questionable.
It seems like the refs get worse every week. They need to start holding them accountable when they change the outcome of games. If players get fined and suspended for breaking the rules, the refs should too.
We need to start have personal fouls for flopping. This is getting way too ridiculous. More plays are how good can I act rather than how well can I play. Killing the game just as much as terrible officiating
It would be nice in this kind of football, but imagine if they actually enforced yellow/red cards for flopping in the other kind. The first season implemented and we'd be getting most matches at 5vs5 or something lmao.
They do have a rule against attempting to draw a flag from a ref. Not sure how it is exactly worded, but long time ago, there was a punter that intentionally moved into a falling defender to try and draw a flag. The ref even called him out on it while his mic was still on.
Yeah. Kind of sad. He knows football so well, yet he's talking as if the players were always that bad and always go out of their way to commit penalties. What little respect I had for him vanished upon hearing him protect the refs and that shitty call.
I'm actually losing interest in this season and stopped watching after seeing way too many bad or no calls by the officials. With all this money, all this technology, and all these cameras, the NFL still has average part time guys on the ground making 95% of the final calls? I lost interest back in 2012/2013 after seeing that rigged garbage, so I stopped watching till 2017, but now I am losing interest all over again.
Idk I'm actually gaining interest. But as a Browns fan I have lost interest when they were always going against us But yeah I get it. They do need better review system in place for penalties
They are guiding Phil and KC back to another SB. That's what we are gona get againb. The same teams every year. But don't forget, this league has complete "parity". What a load of garbage. It's funny. They are trying to push Hurts as a face of the league like Mahomes, but the dude hadsmore turnovers than TDs rn. Media still praises him. It's all nonsense.
should've put money down 2 years ago that the league would allow the rams to win @ sofi stadium due to stan kranky helping double the value of all the NFL franchises by moving to LA and building the new montrosity so the other owners allowed him the SB win @ home. how nice.
@@sicfrynut i knew the rams were gonna win the super bowl as soon as they got sent home by the packers. super bowl was gonna be played in los angeles, they needed to get a new qb, i just thought it was gonna be aaron rodgers instead of matthew stafford. i very much that coming. i didn’t see them winning off some refball vs cincinnati, but i saw it.
It's wild how the first two clips are literally the tiniest amount of contact possible/pass not catchable by anyone on the the planet but both still draw flags. Meanwhile at 4:18 the WR can't make the catch due to the defender pulling him over BY HIS FACEMASK and nothing happens.
I have said for several years now that the NFL lets them play about 80% of the game, but they for sure tell the refs to try and help a certain team/player win. I noticed it starting to become more prevalent in the later years of the Brady era but it is out of control now.
As a Vikings fan, I can’t help but feel bad for the Colts. I even watched the game(on tv) and instantly felt bad for the Colts with all those bad calls especially 1:07 Edit: the refs really threw that game and gave it to the Browns of all teams
hahaha after the Browns losing on completely flabbergasting calls that make no sense whatsoever for years now and never seeing any of you folks defending them, most of us could care less how this one whole, entire game makes folks feel lol
@@bobsacamano7653 yeah the Bears get it bad too. and, even though I dislike them much, it seems like the Lions are in that category too. doesn't seem fair for any of them. then one games goes one of those particular teams' way, and now massive change must be implemented hahaha
My buddy is a Colts fan, and be goes on a rant on Facebook about every bad call he has against his team and that he sees in other games... but after this game, he was silent... I knew that was a sign he was EXTREMELY pissed off 😅😂
Must be so frustrating for a defence to see QB’s like Jalen Hurts Josh Allen constantly run / push for 1st downs and not touch them when they are in the pocket
@georgejohnson8674 That’s what I’ve been saying. Get some Gregg Williams filth going and just start having a guy LEVEL these “tough guy” running QBs once.
@@sludge8506 In most instances of a DB getting to the QB, the QB has either thrown the ball a split second before the DB gets his hands on the QB, or the QB is JUST throwing the ball when the DB gets his hands on him. That's essentially become Roughing the Passer. So much as breathe on QBs anymore and you're punished for it. Don't look at him, don't speak to him, don't even go within 15 yards of him and you may be fine. Put flags on them and call it Flag Football. Pussy sport for Pussies.
They're only the middleman in this instance. They're told to call certain penalties at X time on X player and so on. It all comes from the NFL and Vegas themselves.
Thank you! Finally an Eagles fan with some sense. I’m a Dolphins fan. We still probably would’ve lost but that was the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen in my life
Also imagine having refs specifically for placing the ball (line judges or whatever they’re called) and they still place the ball wrong💀 that knee and ball was way short of that first down. I feel bad for the Rams. That’s just sad way to end a game.
These are bad calls, yes, but not because of incompetence. It's because the NFL has sold its soul to the betting apps. These calls are to manipulate scores so Fan Duel and Draft Kings fleece fans.
@@samishiikihaku we don’t even need refs period anymore why leave crucial calls susceptible to human error when we can replay every play with 40 fricken camera angles
There's an angle of the illegal contact on the Colts that clearly shows that the ball is out of Walker's hand before the contact happens. You really can't make this shit up.
I'm a Steelers fan and there is no way Pickett got the first on the 4&1. When you replay it, it's clear he slipped and was short by a mile that spot was "BAD"
It's painful. I watch so much football, or used to anyway. All primetime games, all of my favorite team's games, and many others. But it's only 5 months of the year. I'll find another hobby.
Stakes are high in Vegas . They making up rules ,using words like redirecting, restriction,displacement... 1:43 -2:20 sounds like his pockets got stuffed with $. Must be tough to be a referre, for every sport that you can gamble on ...
Remember when everyone was saying the Chiefs were getting the benefit of every call/no call?? Yeah turns out that’s league-wide… And I hope the league will soon implement fines for flopping. That’s the one thing I hate about Josh Allen.
The two game-deciding calls against Indianapolis were beyond ridiculous. And the play by play announcers were afraid to call out the refs for obvious mistakes.
NFL needs to implement an oversight like how the NHL has an intervention protocol to make right calls for goals, offsides, etc. Penalties is a different story in the NHL so it’ll be interesting to see, if this does get implemented, how it’ll translate in real time games
The NHL ain't perfect with penalties either. Sure they review goals and offsides but they never review a penalty even with all the camera angles that can show the play in detail
Whether the calls are rigged or it's just incompetence, I find myself not wanting to invest my time in a game which will be influenced by 2-3 horrible 4th Quarter calls. It's happening so much, it's becoming unwatchable.
Both of those calls against the Colts were absolute jokes. I dislike both of those teams but the players for Indianapolis got so screwed by pointless calls.
I’m a colts fan I just started laughing it’s unreal to make a call like that 2 times in a row late 4th even the people in New York had a chance to step in that confirmed to me the NFL IS RIGGED
You could have picked a lot more from the Miami-Eagles game. The offsetting personal fouls call was an absolute disgrace. So too the failure to call interference on Tua's interception. Also the refs decided they were only going to enforce the offensive holding rules on one team.
When you realize that sports gambling brings in 8 x the amount of all ticket, and concession sales you can understand that some of these referee's are bought and paid for.
This is the same as the Dolphins and Eagles 10 penalties vs Zero. No one would believe that in a such physical sport one team walks away with zero penalties unless the officiating sucks
Colts got screwed on the illegal contact, but the whole 'uncatchable ball' debate was stupid and whiny. Maybe stop committing penalties rather than hoping they get waived off.
You're the only person I've seen who puts this all together to show what a mess these officiating crews are. Kudos sir I hope you eventually make a difference here
You have 50 to 60s year old refs trying to keep up with world class athletes!! Granted some of them are in good shape but they still can't keep up with the majority of the plays! Some of these calls should have been looked at on replay but it would end up being replayed on every call the way the refs can't keep up with the quickness of the athletes!!
Roughing the passer and unnecessary roughness are literally changing the game- defensive tacklers are going slower to the QBs/ball carriers in fear of penalty and it helps the offenses gain yards.
I'ma stop watching sports period as a whole because these officials are terrible in college and the pros im sick of yelling at the television year after year because the refs be rigging the games 😡😡
I remember reading that that illegal contact play with the colts vs browns shouldn't have been called because the strip sack fumble recovery negates and illegal contact and dpi penalties or whatever
Listening to the announcers defend horrible calls is harder than watching the bad calls happen themselves.
9:25 “Sorry, we can’t take a look at this pivotal call to get it right because you’re out of timeouts.” Embarrassing.
The fact that the game watch time is about 3 to 3 1/2 hours and highlight game play is like 12 minutes of action and the pace is slow as shit with all the commercials and game stoppages ect.... I agree. It's bullshit that every play is not able to be monitored, reviewed and upheld or reversed without even involving the on field crew is ridiculous. With common sense most of it wouldn't take much more time and even if it did, idiot assholes like myself would still waste another hour watching.
It’s a shame, everyone sees it and yet the NFL ignores it , I guess things will change when coaches speak out about how bad it really is
@@TonyDaWonderful-pj7yb i couldnt have said it better myself. you couldnt be more right
And then they run the clock down to 2 minutes and still don't take a look at it completely disregarding their rules
@Stratoliner5 NFL Officiating is very shady, and should be evaluated by the League after every game. Most People will eventually stop betting on these games Once they get a feeling it’s fixed.
The fact that there is 18 minutes of terrible calls is unbelieveable.
I tried to edit it down as much as I could. I don't like doing long videos because in the past my videos would get blocked by the NFL if they were really long but this week was impossible, It was so bad and I didn't even add any controversial hits that were flagged this week.
@@budleewisergeez. Well, good work anyway :)
And this is only for the week that’s how bad officiating in NFL has gotten
Sorry bruh. That's your trauma speaking. You have been watching so much game tampering that you are conditioned to normalize bad calls and only see the egregious. But your poor memory slightly recalls what it was like to see a clean game once....that is why you are on a video of horrible calls. Not to criticize, but because your inner self yearns to see the truth once again.
Might have to start splitting these into multiple vids with how many bad calls we get each week now.
It’s ridiculous how bad the officiating is this year
It gets worse every year
@@10mm69 I dunno about that, it's been really bad for a long time. I remember years ago every wildcard game came down to a bad call by the ref that decided the winner. I'm glad people are becoming more aware though.
It’s been bad since the 2013 NFCCG
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
@@_ArsNovawish it's still the early 2000s when football isn't for gambling addicts
Baker Mayfield gets destroyed with a punch to the head and gets no call.. Dude barley touches the Philly QB and a flag... This is unwatchable
That philly qb is Jalen hurts
i think that no call was thee worst of the week by far. Baker doesnt get respect from most fans or the refs. that's ok, he'll just keep slangin it
Because they need to protect their assets. Quite a few big name players have calls go their way
Well the solution at this point is just put a flag on the QB and if the guy pulls it off he’s down.
@@chadhOneAtl nah.. but there shouldnt be some rules for yee and not for thee.. and if ya legit watch football, u know this is a thing and happens all the time for certain players and certain teams
Browns got handed a win 2 weeks in a row
Refs help teams win when they shouldn’t every week every year. The Browns never get help from the refs so they deserve some horrible officiating going their way for once
🤣 so the ref had 2 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, jumped over the line to block a fg, 9 tackles?? no that was myles...... weird how your dude hold a guys arm the whole way thru the endzone and you claim its not a penalty😂😂😂 shit would have been called even if he didnt throw it to him🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and the same on the fumble, dude got ran thru, decides to grab onto his arm instead of just going down"which hes taught to do cause a penatly is better than getting burnt" and you wanna say the refs are helping them.......the only team to this day to have a play called back 3 plays later and the game not even able to be finished cause the refs were so bad????? yea fucking right hahahahaha your corny copium is dead lol
The illegal contact I thought was a decent call. The DPI, that was a horrible call. Ball is uncatchable and hand fighting is legal with zero restrictions
and on top of it, even if he throws that ball into the stands, it would have been called a hold, so take your pick. either way you cant hold a receivers arm the whole way thru the endzone, and you cant grab a dude when he cooks you lmao
@theteeman it doesn't matter. Listen to fucking gene, he said it himself. Uncatchable balls are not like oh it was a foot too fan. U catchable balls are like over exaggerated. That's not the spirit of the rule. You can't twist rules to make them benefit your team
Holy shit you were not kidding about this being the worst week! Normally there are some where I can kinda see it from the refs side, but I haven't seen any yet where it seems like an easy mistake
And I didn't even add any controversial hits that were flagged and not to mention what all I may have missed, what a week!
Witherspoon got called cuz he didn't turn around. Other than that, you are absolutely correct
I feel like the refs have some money on the game lmao
@@WimsicleStranger a lot of the refs have said on record that they play fantasy football. makes you wonder sometimes.
@@WimsicleStranger you couldn't say it no better it's starting to add up now and can just see on the refs faces.
Vegas and the bookies have deep pockets. One bad call from the refs and they're swimming in green. Last week Bijan missed the entire game and with 3 minutes left he rushed the ball for 3 yards for absolutely no reason to void any Bijan bets so Vegas most definitely called, I guess his headache or whatever was wrong with him went away.. Sports is plagued by sports betting it's never going to be the same. Man I miss early 2000s-2010s.
Agreed. Gambling has ruined the integrity of sports.
Spot on dude. Everyone can have a motive now and change the outcome of the game for their own gain.
Yeah, now that online betting is so big, and its not just betting at a casino or a bookie, there is billions at stake every week.
They are also making schedules w "computer simulation" and ai, so there is definitely too much room for this type of thing.
Spot on.. And even the 2000s were bad. Remember SEA-PIT SB, SD-PIT game, AZ-PIT SB, NE-SL SB, NE-Raiders-01, just to name the biggest games that were obviously fixed..
Anyway, since NFL went to bed with the gambling industry, "sports" media posting lines 24/7, turning young pipo into addicts losing all their parents money, all is cross. It never was as bad as nowadays.
Funny side note: Raiders never won anything since Al Davis went to war with the other owners, but Raiders being top 3 in penalties 80% of the seasons since 1983. Coininidence? If you believe in a 1:1 billion chance, yes. Otherwise not.
early 2000's was bad calls as well
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
I've never seen a comment written with so much truth to it.
Still using chains and sticks too. It’s comical.
Overall they are QUITE GOOD at watching so many different aspects of the game. And just to be clear, everyone else (statistically) who wants to do this job is worse at it. There's no angel hernandez of NFL football.
@@zachansen8293 Some are, some aren't. It's just silly when there are this many blatantly wrong calls, that get spotted by the commentators of all people, that are then still upheld. What it is the point of all that sophisticated technology if they're going to still give away free touchdowns on bad calls??
@@_ArsNovaI guess what would you do??? You can’t review every potential flag the games would take way too long
I am in no way a Colts fan, but I screamed at my TV after those PI calls
I didn't scream at my TV, but I felt the same. I'm not a fan of the Colts (only Minshew II), but I felt bad for them with those non-calls.
i’m a colts fan😢
this may be the first time in history the browns didn't get screwed by the refs sorry cots@@FSBProductions.
As a colts fan.. I’m afraid to walk around town without catching a pass interference call
The NFL is getting harder to watch every year. And the fact that they refuse to add a "sky judge" to oversee calls/non calls only fuels the conspiracy theories. With all the technology we have available, there really is no excuse to the bad calls week in and week out. We as the consumer deserve better...
I agree... consumers ARE the reason these guys are getting paid. The very least they could do is TRY to act like it's fair and unscripted.
Vegas WILL NOT allow it!😂
The games appear to be rigged based on poor officiating
@MichaelJones-uw8gi I am reluctant to go as far as saying that. But I do think they they discriminate with the decision to call/no call
Usually, I would call "worst week" hyperbole, but there is something seriously wrong with NFL crews. Especially in that Colts game. It's rarely so blatantly obvious that something was wrong.
I wouldn't say the Colts bad calls were blatantly bad. First one might have been ticky tack, but is called at times. PI penalty wasn't pi but most likely holding
Blatant was Cooper being in bounds but being called out of bounds earlier in the season
Duke Johnson(Cle) coming out of a fumble scrum holding the ball while the refs watch a couple of Washington players fighting for air and awarding the fumble recovery to Washington was blatantly bad.
Reviewing a previous play after another had been ran is blatantly bad
Browns rarely if even ever since 99 had bad calls go in their favor and always have gone against them
49ers game I don't want to hear about those because those"bad calls" were pretty damn close. One, his arm was moving forward albeit slightly before ball came out and was still called for intentional grounding. Other if viewed lived looked like the penalty. Only seeing it in review you'd see it wasn't but was mere inches from being so. AND 49ers still had a chance to win but missed an "easy" FG .
Also there were a lot of bad calls in that went against the Browns in the 49er game including a phantom hold that brought back a TD. Also refs nearly got away with calling a 49er penalty against the Browns instead. They just happened earlier in the game but people tend to forget about those.
But refs have been terrible and a lot of Browns fans would be in favor of having penalties being reviewable after being screwed so many times.
And the Miami game. Dolphins had 10 penalties, and the Eagles had 0. It's only happened like 15 times in NFL history or something like that. And there were clear, game-changing no calls. It's all about that Vegas money, and guiding the teams they want to the SB. Not to mention, the head ref in the Phili/Miami game grew up 25 miles outside Phili, and was kicked out of College ball of for this sort of garbage. Sounds like an NFL-quality guy to me.
It’s call gambling.😊
What game changing calls are you talking about?
If it was the face mask, dolphins got a pick 6 on the next play.
If you are talking about the pick Tua threw, in real time it was a bang bang play. Of course if you slow it down it does look like a PI, but hey you can catch ALOT of penalties in slow motion.
One of the holding penalties the dolphins got a sack, but would've been declined.
The roughing the passer was weak, but this has always been a thing since brady...
We going to talk about the clear td hill dropped?
I just see dolphin fans making whatever excuse they want. What was the excuse for getting messed up by the bills?
Only fans that should be sour is the colts and rams xD I will feel bad for them... not dolphins though they got out played.
@@jameswiest2171 bad calls are bad calls. Just because they aren't "game changing" in your eyes doesn't mean they are game changing. Let's say if a ref misses a face mask, that next play might have changed and been a running play that broke off for a TD instead of a pass that gets returned for a TD. It can still swing momentum. And personally I don't think the colts bad calls might be as bad as people are making them out to be. That PI wasn't Pi due to uncatchable pass, but it still would have possibly been D holding. Difference of a couple yards might have made a difference or might not have. Also, NFL doesn't define what uncatchable ball means which might be why it's not called as much as it's too much refs discretion. But I'd like to have reviewable penalties more and better definition of uncatchable to get refs all on the same page. Idk why they're not called as much but I wonder if it's just highlight reels of some passes that look like they are going to be uncatchable get caught. Not saying that ball in Indy game was even possible to get caught. Butb just because a bad call doesn't seem to have a game changing result doesn't mean there is none. There was a hold call in the Browns -49ers game that doesn't appear to be holding after reviewing it that brought back a Browns TD. Browns had to settle for a FG drive. That a 4pt swing and would have been a difference in the end but no one sees that bad call because it's ignored due to the idea that the beginning of the game doesn't matter as much as end. But even if that TD stood, it could have changed the way either teams played. Browns could have scored more due to a momentum swing and 49ers might have took more risks that paid off or not paid off. 🤷♂️ but in the scheme of things that 4pt swing is just changing the game.
I refuse to believe this video is almost 20 minutes long
Its like they have Angel Hernandez as the head of officiating
I tried to edit it down as much as I could. I don't like doing long videos because in the past my videos would get blocked by the NFL if they were really long but this week was impossible, It was so bad and I didn't even add any controversial hits that were flagged this week.
@@budleewiser doin the lord's work out here
@@budleewiserit's not ur fault that week 7 has this many terrible calls! Btw the NFL has admitted that the refs messed up several calls this week, but does that actually mean anything going forward?
These calls need to be at least reviewed by someone and need to be corrected. ESPECIALLY in the last moments of the game
Amazing how we live in a world with unprecedented levels of reviewing & video analysis technology... and we're reliant on garbage referees and their on-the-spot calls.
Not sure why anyone thinks it would fix anything. Replay often doesn't get it right. See the "fumble" replay from the Chiefs game Sunday. Clearly not a catch so couldn't be a fumble, but review upheld the call.
If anything, this would give the NFL more levers to pull in their quest for story lines.
@@ScumBagInFL Absolutely not true. All it does is put accountability on people that get paid more and care more about the game than refs do
@bowlman_ dude they miss calls all the time after instant replay have you watched any college ball this year ? I get your point but still.
Also it'd help if fans in the stadium and the players stopped whining for flags at every turn .
The worst part of it all is when the announcers go along with it and try and defend the horrible calls
The refs are literally ruining the game.
and the league being heavily involved with gambling
It's less the refs and more the fact Gambling is very closely related to Football. When you hear football, someone's talking about fucking betting. Watch a football ad, they're talk of betting. No advertizement of players and their best moments from the season before (or current season), just... betting.
Sure, refs have been bad too, but they're shockingly not the main issue. Something easily fixable, but the betting thing needs fixed first.
Crazy how the same team benefitted from bad calls two games in a row
I assume you're talking about the Browns and that absolutely legit penalty the week before? whatta joke lol
The Dolphins were blatantly robbed of any chance of a win the entire game.
So true . & then people say the chiefs pay the refs😢
Bro these refs have been meatriding the Eagles & The Bills as well it makes no sense to blame a team just because they won a Super Bowl.
Guys cry too much the only play that the ref didn’t call was the holding in the helmet I agree with that but other than that it was a clean game
@@18legend19 You must be blind. There was a ton of stuff uncalled.
yeah there was aa total of 15 missed called on the eagles@@KS-zt4nd
@@18legend19 THE EAGLES HAD ONLY 0 FLAGS CALLED ON WHILE THE DOLPHINS HAD 10 FLAGS YOURE BLIND.
I don't normally watch the NFL, but when I do, I watch budleewiser.
Watching the eagles hold up and down the field, without a single penalty, was unbelievable to watch. Shameful.
As a Phins fan, watching that game hurt. Sure, I can bear with my team losing a few games but not like that. That whole fucking game was one-sided in the Eagles' favor. Why? They're the underdogs and some Pig in a suit at Vegas just needs to line his/her pockets with more money than they know what to do with. It pisses me off that the sport is no longer about strategy, skill, talent and having the knowledge. It's all about how much money can some asshat make when they're not actually involved with the sport. Betting has ruined the sport.
@@MLPIcebergor we were the better team. And we were barely even underdogs
@@JNB0723 easy to be better with the refs on your side. I bet you're actually proud of that win too.
@@MLPIcebergthe fins are were the underdogs and kept going offsides. The fins played terrible and it’s just that
@@jhiieri7812this video literally showed you ALL THE MISSED calls on the dolphins as well
As an Eagles fan. The roughing the passer on Wilkins was a terrible call
Actually, I agree with that one. He shouldn’t have pushed him over intentionally like that, he should’ve grabbed and held him up
I hated the facemask as well, although the pick 6 made up for it
Refs really need to be held accountable for these god awful calls. Players have to answer to the media after every game, but refs get away with every decision it seems like.
Civilians need to be held accountable for how many fucking bet on games. That's more of an issue than the refs.
The NFL made funny commercials about the season being scripted. As the season moves on, doesn’t seem so funny with weeks like this and how awful the refereeing turned out.
It's the same with EA and Madden... they know they were caught, but they don't care, they're rich.
Thats the sophisticated way (to turn on NFL critics). Old tactic. Used since Nazi Germany.
The refs literally stole a game from Indy with that defensive contact call. And though the Dolphins didn't play well, the Eagles got away with way too many penalties.
That browns game. Truly unbelievable. These aren’t small insignificant calls. These are calls that are obvious and have an effect on the game.
The Peoples-Jones play, he was being held and pulled away from the back of the endzone. If he was able to get to the back of the endzone, he may have been able to jump up vertically and catch it. Because he was held/pulled, it looked like it wasn't catchable.
The Cooper play was questionable.
As a browns fan I'm shocked we get calls in our favor so I'm just as confused as you
@@moej6014that ball wasn’t catchable at all man lol
It seems like the refs get worse every week. They need to start holding them accountable when they change the outcome of games. If players get fined and suspended for breaking the rules, the refs should too.
Agreed
We need to start have personal fouls for flopping. This is getting way too ridiculous. More plays are how good can I act rather than how well can I play. Killing the game just as much as terrible officiating
ye nba did that this year, sich a good adjustment
It would be nice in this kind of football, but imagine if they actually enforced yellow/red cards for flopping in the other kind. The first season implemented and we'd be getting most matches at 5vs5 or something lmao.
And, as a Vikings fan, there needs to be personal fouls and ejections for blatantly faking an injury to get a time out
mahomes would never have a win, thats all he does.
They do have a rule against attempting to draw a flag from a ref. Not sure how it is exactly worded, but long time ago, there was a punter that intentionally moved into a falling defender to try and draw a flag. The ref even called him out on it while his mic was still on.
MLB Umps: We are the worst officials in sports.
NFL Refs: Hold my beer.
NBA Refs : Tim Donaghy has entered the Chat.
Gene Steratore protecting his fellow refs as usual
Yeah. Kind of sad. He knows football so well, yet he's talking as if the players were always that bad and always go out of their way to commit penalties. What little respect I had for him vanished upon hearing him protect the refs and that shitty call.
I'm actually losing interest in this season and stopped watching after seeing way too many bad or no calls by the officials. With all this money, all this technology, and all these cameras, the NFL still has average part time guys on the ground making 95% of the final calls? I lost interest back in 2012/2013 after seeing that rigged garbage, so I stopped watching till 2017, but now I am losing interest all over again.
Idk I'm actually gaining interest. But as a Browns fan I have lost interest when they were always going against us
But yeah I get it. They do need better review system in place for penalties
this league is 100% fixed. this year is proving it to me. it’s to a point where i’m really starting to fall out of love with football.
Same man, same. It's sad 😔
They are guiding Phil and KC back to another SB. That's what we are gona get againb. The same teams every year. But don't forget, this league has complete "parity". What a load of garbage. It's funny. They are trying to push Hurts as a face of the league like Mahomes, but the dude hadsmore turnovers than TDs rn. Media still praises him. It's all nonsense.
Not that the refs haven’t always sucked but i’m certain that legalizing sports betting has completely ruined the integrity of the game
should've put money down 2 years ago that the league would allow the rams to win @ sofi stadium due to stan kranky helping double the value of all the NFL franchises by moving to LA and building the new montrosity so the other owners allowed him the SB win @ home. how nice.
@@sicfrynut i knew the rams were gonna win the super bowl as soon as they got sent home by the packers. super bowl was gonna be played in los angeles, they needed to get a new qb, i just thought it was gonna be aaron rodgers instead of matthew stafford. i very much that coming. i didn’t see them winning off some refball vs cincinnati, but i saw it.
It's wild how the first two clips are literally the tiniest amount of contact possible/pass not catchable by anyone on the the planet but both still draw flags. Meanwhile at 4:18 the WR can't make the catch due to the defender pulling him over BY HIS FACEMASK and nothing happens.
Legalized sports gambling
The fact that there is 18 minutes of terrible calls is unbelieveable. Budleewiser is so good
It's sad that not even the teams can determine who wins but the refs do 😭
it's sad that they try and make us believe from a very young age that only wrestling was fake.
That Miami pick after the no call is the definition of “ball don’t lie”
I wonder when people will realize that NFL games are fixed through officiating quite a bit..
It's easier to fool people than make them realize they've been fooled. Some people will never see it for what it is no matter how obvious.
The Rock and Vince McMahon own the xfl all 8 teams 🤣
I have said for several years now that the NFL lets them play about 80% of the game, but they for sure tell the refs to try and help a certain team/player win. I noticed it starting to become more prevalent in the later years of the Brady era but it is out of control now.
As a Vikings fan, I can’t help but feel bad for the Colts. I even watched the game(on tv) and instantly felt bad for the Colts with all those bad calls especially 1:07
Edit: the refs really threw that game and gave it to the Browns of all teams
What about the bad calls against the bears
hahaha after the Browns losing on completely flabbergasting calls that make no sense whatsoever for years now and never seeing any of you folks defending them, most of us could care less how this one whole, entire game makes folks feel lol
@@OhioOwns agreed. I have seen so many bad calls against the Browns even more than bad calls against the Bears
@@bobsacamano7653 yeah the Bears get it bad too. and, even though I dislike them much, it seems like the Lions are in that category too. doesn't seem fair for any of them. then one games goes one of those particular teams' way, and now massive change must be implemented hahaha
My buddy is a Colts fan, and be goes on a rant on Facebook about every bad call he has against his team and that he sees in other games... but after this game, he was silent... I knew that was a sign he was EXTREMELY pissed off 😅😂
Lol poor guy… I shared in his pain though, as a colts fan I was right there with em
Must be so frustrating for a defence to see QB’s like Jalen Hurts Josh Allen constantly run / push for 1st downs and not touch them when they are in the pocket
Cone Head, what do you mean by saying they can’t touch the quarterback in the pocket?
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@georgejohnson8674 That’s what I’ve been saying. Get some Gregg Williams filth going and just start having a guy LEVEL these “tough guy” running QBs once.
@@sludge8506 If you touch them in the pocket its roughing the passer lmao
@@Anonymous-wg5czwhile their oline gets away with everything, sure, you can't touch 'em
@@sludge8506 In most instances of a DB getting to the QB, the QB has either thrown the ball a split second before the DB gets his hands on the QB, or the QB is JUST throwing the ball when the DB gets his hands on him. That's essentially become Roughing the Passer. So much as breathe on QBs anymore and you're punished for it. Don't look at him, don't speak to him, don't even go within 15 yards of him and you may be fine.
Put flags on them and call it Flag Football. Pussy sport for Pussies.
refs fix games, its beyond debatable at this point.
They're only the middleman in this instance. They're told to call certain penalties at X time on X player and so on. It all comes from the NFL and Vegas themselves.
That dirtbag official in the Dolphins Eagles game,was suspended in 2017 for unethical officiating in the ACC championship game.
Source? That’s insane but not surprising if true
@@dadbodii His name is Duane Heydt,and he’s as dirty as they come.
I’m an Eagles fan, but the referees rigged the game for Philly. They got away with a lot of penalties.
Thank you! Finally an Eagles fan with some sense. I’m a Dolphins fan. We still probably would’ve lost but that was the worst officiated game I’ve ever seen in my life
Oh yeah, My Fins would've probably still lost due to us being down two corners and with our fragile line but it shouldve been much closer.
Unfreaken believable , this is disgusting, the nfl should be ashamed and apologize to all the fans…. Ridiculous!
Something needs to be done about these horrific calls.
But nothing will…nothing ever does.
people keep going to the games, getting nfl channels, etc.; people are getting the shitty product they asked for and couldn't be happier...
Unless the refs watch the play and get bitch slapped for calling a horrible penalty.
Also imagine having refs specifically for placing the ball (line judges or whatever they’re called) and they still place the ball wrong💀 that knee and ball was way short of that first down. I feel bad for the Rams. That’s just sad way to end a game.
It kills me when you watch the side judges running in and the run diagonal as hell 😂😂 or the both run in on different lines 😂😂
As a Steeler's fan, It's not a good win to have
Someone wanted pitt to win that game real bad, more than any fan 😂
These are bad calls, yes, but not because of incompetence. It's because the NFL has sold its soul to the betting apps. These calls are to manipulate scores so Fan Duel and Draft Kings fleece fans.
At least the games are cheap to attend.
Bills non-call pass interference last week vs Colts pass interference this week. It's like they're doing makeup calls, but for different games
Lot of that might not be bad calling, just corruption.
I'm sorry, i respect the refs but, GET THES 50-60 YR OLDS OUT OF THE LEAGUE
Easy there.
Age does not automatically equal incompetence.
@@CanadianPhinsFan853he’s right tho
but it seems like such a good idea?
I mean our current political field is filled with 70+ persons.
@@samishiikihaku we don’t even need refs period anymore why leave crucial calls susceptible to human error when we can replay every play with 40 fricken camera angles
It was the young one who was the worst this season. “Put your helmet on”
There's an angle of the illegal contact on the Colts that clearly shows that the ball is out of Walker's hand before the contact happens. You really can't make this shit up.
I'm a Steelers fan and there is no way Pickett got the first on the 4&1. When you replay it, it's clear he slipped and was short by a mile that spot was "BAD"
See Baker gets ran over no call... Philly QB flops and barley touched gets a flag
0:43 that pass is closer to the fans in the first row than the endzone, how that is not deemed uncatchable is boyond me.
Of all the potential arguments to be made, this has to be one of the dumber ones.
This is 100% what has driven me away from the NFL. Bad calls ruining games
It's painful. I watch so much football, or used to anyway. All primetime games, all of my favorite team's games, and many others. But it's only 5 months of the year. I'll find another hobby.
I'm a browns fan and even I can say the last minute of the game was totally egregious by the refs. Someone paid them off well that game.
Stakes are high in Vegas . They making up rules ,using words like redirecting, restriction,displacement... 1:43 -2:20 sounds like his pockets got stuffed with $. Must be tough to be a referre, for every sport that you can gamble on ...
no foals on eagles is crazy
EVERY roughing the passer penalty needs to be reviewed. Enough of this shit. Just make the right fucking calls.
Remember when everyone was saying the Chiefs were getting the benefit of every call/no call?? Yeah turns out that’s league-wide…
And I hope the league will soon implement fines for flopping. That’s the one thing I hate about Josh Allen.
Seen a lot of flopping recently. That shit needs to stay in basketball and soccer, and tf out of football.
The two game-deciding calls against Indianapolis were beyond ridiculous. And the play by play announcers were afraid to call out the refs for obvious mistakes.
NFL needs to implement an oversight like how the NHL has an intervention protocol to make right calls for goals, offsides, etc. Penalties is a different story in the NHL so it’ll be interesting to see, if this does get implemented, how it’ll translate in real time games
It won't. One reason being is Roger Goodell (and others like him). Another is how closely linked gambling and Football is.
The NHL ain't perfect with penalties either. Sure they review goals and offsides but they never review a penalty even with all the camera angles that can show the play in detail
Whether the calls are rigged or it's just incompetence, I find myself not wanting to invest my time in a game which will be influenced by 2-3 horrible 4th Quarter calls. It's happening so much, it's becoming unwatchable.
With how mainstream sports betting is now, this isn’t a surprise.
Both of those calls against the Colts were absolute jokes. I dislike both of those teams but the players for Indianapolis got so screwed by pointless calls.
"Calls the Refs Got Correct" would be a much shorter video.
I’m a colts fan I just started laughing it’s unreal to make a call like that 2 times in a row late 4th even the people in New York had a chance to step in that confirmed to me the NFL IS RIGGED
11:20 is a good no call. Handfighting between the two and the reciever falls down. Just because the crowd boos doesnt mean its a bad call.
You could have picked a lot more from the Miami-Eagles game.
The offsetting personal fouls call was an absolute disgrace. So too the failure to call interference on Tua's interception.
Also the refs decided they were only going to enforce the offensive holding rules on one team.
When you realize that sports gambling brings in 8 x the amount of all ticket, and concession sales you can understand that some of these referee's are bought and paid for.
This is the same as the Dolphins and Eagles 10 penalties vs Zero.
No one would believe that in a such physical sport one team walks away with zero penalties unless the officiating sucks
I don't disagree but it's worth noting that the eagles would've had 5 penalties but they were all offset or declined
Colts got screwed on the illegal contact, but the whole 'uncatchable ball' debate was stupid and whiny. Maybe stop committing penalties rather than hoping they get waived off.
We genuinely need a replay reviewer of every single penalty or close call to automatically send a buzz to make it a reviewable play
I started watching this and then had to stop. I realized my blood pressure was rising.
Fire and fine referees who make horrible calls that affect the outcome of games.
Start with firing this season's crew immediately.
More like getting rid of gambling surrounding Football...
Satan: "As a Refs Fan, I have a special feeling about this NFL season..."
Im an Eagles Fan that illegal contact call on the Colts was BS
That hurt me
#0:17 The colts should’ve won that. The refs sucked that game. As a bengals fan that one hurts because we need any team in the afc north to lose.
Ball lands in the stands.. and they are still talking about if it is catchable...
I quit drinking but i love Budleewiser
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These refs make me angry
it's because the colts changed their colors to be darker. they need the white helmets and blue horseshoe back!
I'm a Steelerfan. I honestly don't know if Pickett got it by a Gene Steratore Index card. or If he was short.
Its entertainment not sport bro
As a Steeler's fan, KP8 lost a yard with that knee down
He didn’t it was pure bullshit
hometown decision lmao
You're the only person I've seen who puts this all together to show what a mess these officiating crews are. Kudos sir I hope you eventually make a difference here
i feel like the "uncatchable ball" stuff should especially come into play in the endzone
You have 50 to 60s year old refs trying to keep up with world class athletes!! Granted some of them are in good shape but they still can't keep up with the majority of the plays! Some of these calls should have been looked at on replay but it would end up being replayed on every call the way the refs can't keep up with the quickness of the athletes!!
dont forget the bad roughing the passer call during the Seattle game that took off a interception
Roughing the passer and unnecessary roughness are literally changing the game- defensive tacklers are going slower to the QBs/ball carriers in fear of penalty and it helps the offenses gain yards.
When the hell are refs going to sanctioned.
The worst one was the eagles vs the dolphins
A lot of flopping in football these days smh
Especially Josh Allen, every time he gets sacked he’s always looking for a flag 😂
When the referees in the WWE have more credibility than you.
The refs' job in WWE is to help make sure the match goes as scripted. Exactly the same as NFL refs. They have to make sure the "right" team wins.
Football is becoming Soccer with these over the top fake injuries and hits
I love these videos keep up the great work
6:50
It can’t be illegal man downfield unless the pass is caught beyond the line of scrimmage. This is a correct no call
I'ma stop watching sports period as a whole because these officials are terrible in college and the pros im sick of yelling at the television year after year because the refs be rigging the games 😡😡
Colts got screwed pretty much
I remember reading that that illegal contact play with the colts vs browns shouldn't have been called because the strip sack fumble recovery negates and illegal contact and dpi penalties or whatever
Not to mention it was the receiver who initiated the contact . . .
@@bolbyballinger Yep... it's becoming very dumb
Those poor defenders can't even touch a wr/qb without penalty flags flying
I'm sure this has nothing to do with the fact you can now bet on games 🙄
Gene Steratore came out this week and apologized for getting the simultaneous possession call wrong in the Packers-Broncos game.
I didn’t see his apology but I have to admit I’ve never heard that explanation for simultaneous possession before.
@0:31; that should be OPI if anything
Agreed
Why does Gene sound like he knows everything and nothing at the same damn time?