Math Hoffa & Vlad Continue to Yell at Each Other Over the Taxstone & Troy Ave Deadly Fight (Part 22)
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Vlad and Math Hoffa discussed various topics including the controversy and criticism that prominent figures in their industry often face. The pair was honest about the fact that their public statements can rub people the wrong way and disagreed about whether incidents of public feuding are consistent or occasional. The conversation turned heated when talking about Joe Budden, a subject that Hoffa believed was sensitive and best avoided. The two also spoke about the legal issues and interpersonal relationships revolving around public figures like Troy Ave, including some serious implications and consequences. They both concurred that in such a heated environment, there are no winners, admitting the entire scenario is essentially a mess with disastrous aftermaths for many involved. The intense conversation showcased Vlad and Hoffa’s perspectives on their industry, the impact public bashing has on reputation and consequences, and how personal matters sometimes become overly publicized in their community. - บันเทิง
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Are you gone to take a Taxstone Booty warrior interview in 35 years 😂😂😂
Vlad your a buster
Vlad picking sides everyone seen them letters tax wrote to the judge your man’s a rat too 😂😂
You dead ass wrong VLAD... never thought I'd say that due to your common sense view of things thru the years but it's obvious you just don't like Troy Ave.
This is one of those easy arguments to conclude. Both Troy and Taxstone were liable for their extra behavior. Troy came out way less scathed. But it could have easily went the other way. Rest in peace to Banga.
This is clear cut evidence of why you cannot have cultural conversations with someone who is not of the culture but simply profits off of it. With that said -- I appreciate Vlad being able to publish videos where he sounds absolutely ridiculous and out of touch. Math made the better argument
Especially with Vlad just feeling like he has all the answers and facts for any situation. Smh never wants to understand. Everything he’s said so far bout this in both clips, are him failing to understand
Bingo
Oh shut up with that "culture" bullshit.
Ya'll aint got no culture that leads back thousands of years.
American culture is made up as they go each day so wtf you talking about??
Americans both black and white Ya'll the SAME shit.
What does being of any culture have to do with murder? White, black, Indians, French people kill each other. This was a dumb comment
From what culture ? Speak for yourself, not all blacks are like this.
The fact that vlad thinks he really knows tax it’s disturbing
For real.
It helps Vlad street cred... he thinks.
How?
Bruh, I never even thought about it like that,but you absolutely right. And Vlad gets validation from the appearance that he is close or good frie ds with people in the culture.
Vlad clearly piped Tax off. shyts disturbing
“They weren’t even in Brooklyn, They were in Manhattan” is crazy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
At that point he knew he lost the argument 😂
Completely irrelevant
That was almost as bad as "if this happened in Florida...."
Same shit I said
Vlad is a goofy
As much of a tax stone fan that I was , I gotta admit math said some of the most realest things ever . Not only as an entertainer but as a grown man . Respect 🫡
Nothing math said was real. Math is failing to hold Troy Ave accountable for his actions.
@@thadonjuan2339 Nah. People are failing to actually hold Taxstone accountable for his actions.
If you look at the FACTS, both actually snitched in different ways. Taxstone wrote to the judge and Troy went on the stand. So the truth of the matter is both snitched so it kind of even out.
If you look at what happened that night, none of that would've happened if he simply didn't bring a gun to a place full of civilians. That was irresponsible and stupid.
Play stupid games, win stupide prizes. Now not only is Banga dead, but Taxstone will spend multiple decades in prison (Troy Ave too but Troy will have something like a year or two).
That situation could've been avoided by all parties involved (Tax not bringing a gun, Banga not punching someone that's literally holding on a gun & Troy not telling Banga to go punch Tax).
We're not talking about teenagers here -- all of them were grown mens when that situation happened.
RIP Banga.
@@thadonjuan2339 they're both bias cuz their friends of each.
@andrewilliams9921 Yeah but at least Vlad admitted that Taxstone was wrong. Math sound like a straight sucka.
@@thadonjuan2339Tax had no reason to be there that night. He was there to prove something and he did but he didn’t expect the outcome.
Vlad shut tf up real quick when Math pointed out Tax was writing letters to the judge 😂😂
REAL QUICK!!!
@@julianclanton1204expeditiously
Them counter facts hurt lol I hate when vlad keeps bringing up Florida self defense laws like it matters in this situation. I promise if this happen at a Florida airport, Tax getting life in prison. Gun free zone means exactly that.
For someone who allegedly doesn't care about snitching, he was quick to point that out. Hypocritical Ike
@@reaverofhearts7657 do you know what snitching means?
Vlad just feels some type of way because Troy threatened him.
Now imagine if Troy continued to threaten Vlad consistently multiple times a week for 2 years and when Vlad finally confronts Troy about it Troy pulls out a gun leading to somebody dying. Why would Vlad be wrong in the outcome of altercation?
Vlad is blaming Troy because he doesn’t like him
That’s a good point. I forgot about that, it explains why Vlad is going so hard even though he’s wrong.
Officer Vlad needs to just quit
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Complete facts. Vlad is a clown. He sounds 100 percent stupid for defending taxstone all cuz Troy ave threatened him… “they were in Manhattan” took me out. 😂😂😂😂😂
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Vlad saying "They Were In Manhattan" Instantly Made My Head Hurt
Thank you Math for keeping it 💯. Vlad's constant defense of tax is pitiful
Vlad said no lies. Math tried to skip over Troy Ave bs
Vlad wants to be right so bad that maths statement is going over his head. He doesn’t get it.
@drob98 I agree and I dont know all the details of who is right or wrong but Math is building a strong case. His analogy of saying both are from Brooklyn and have a Brooklyn mindset went completely over Vlads head as evident when Vlad said the shooting happened in Manhattan SMH Math should have hit that drum after that statement 😂
Facts he missing that tax started it all by talking crazy
@@ElevatedMindz 🤣🤣
Y’all forgetting white people in general think words shouldn’t get u fucked up
Facts. Both sides were wrong but tax's wrong outweighed troys in the end
The fact that Vlad can completely diss Tory Lanez BUUUUT cop 1000 pleas for Taxstone is a clear indication of bias.
Excellent analysis
EXACTLY what I was sayin!!! He got said when China Mac said he wouldn’t cooperate, but now using cooperating as a diss now for Troy. “Who cooperated tho???”. He’s just fishing for anything
Astute observation 👍🏾
What does his opinion on the Tory Lanez case have ANYTHING to do with his opinion on Taxstone? lol
@@JevvyMedia because DJ Vlad always say if the person that you shot is testifying against you. why take it to trial. That is what it has to do with Tory Lanez
Math killed the conversation under 1 minute 😂
No he didn't. He got emotional from not having a better point. Vlad told no lies
😂 “it wasn’t me it was heem”😂 Math is mad funny
Vlad ridin on Tax's side more than the IRS damn 😂😂😂😂
Cuz he likes him
Frfr 😂
***DON DEMARCO!***
Bang, bang 💥. 💩 LIKE THAT
i kno wtf wrong wit him? lol
Math Kept it 1000% real
Facts
Exactly nobody CARES ABOUT VLADS OPINIONS OR THOUGHTS
nah, bangas family dont give a fuck about that street ego bullshit.
Opinions,
@@saintsbusiness42you love him
His voice when he said "It wasn't me it was him" 😂😂😂
“It was himmm, it was himmm” lmaooo I busted out laughing
😂😂😂
Math's face when Vlad said "Manhattan"
I felt that. Vlad ain't walking or hopping on a train. So he wouldn't even understand.
☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 man yall ain't neva lie!!!
Facts, the point was that both of them are FROM Brooklyn lol it doesn’t matter where they were at
Vlad saying "who cooperated?" is crazy.😅
On God 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Vlad arguing is hilarious; I'm just waiting for him to say, "I know you are but what am I?!"
"HE SHOULD'VE SHUT THE FUCK UP!!" 😭😂😂😂
After hearing this my respect levels for Math just went to a whole other level 👏🏾
Facts bro
Math been one of the realest (on the net), amongst a buncha straight up clowns...hes about as smart and solid as they come 🫡🫡🫡
This is not the same math from back in the day. He’s matured a lot and it’s good to see.
@@OrangeJuicePapihe always been the same y’all just didn’t like him because y’all didn’t like him punching ppl 😂
Math got super emotional cuz Vlad had valid ass points about Banga and Troy
Vlad has reached a new level of stupid with this one. Math's points were solid and factual. Vlad has proved again of how disconnected he is with our culture.
I FEEL THE SAME I FELT HE WAS A FOOL BUT THIS HAS PUSHED IT EVEN FURTHER
so disconnected, he doesnt understand honor and respect. He only values money, thats it. I hate having to watch these videos on his platform, lets start migrating to other Black podcasts.
@@desertezzGullytv Doggie Diamonds just to name a few. However, those two I just named gives a more intellectual take on hip-hop amongst others. Other "black" youtuber are just ignorant with redundant information and unorganized
Disagree wholeheartedly. If this case was outside NY Tax would have gotten off on Self defense. Troy Ave is a Bozo. Rip Bangga but only Troy stans think like this
@ryancoleman303 but it was not he was in New York, and he was not unaware of his location, so what is the point of this message
Knowing you sued someone for getting you beat up but then criticizing someone for cooeprating on a witness stand is insane😂
Rick Ross
The nerve to say but he cooperated like he wouldn’t have done the same
It's not.. Vlad doesn't claim to be a guy in that life.. Troy does..
@@QW434_if that's the case why is he speaking on it then? And with base in his voice like he wants smoke? This is a threat in the black community.
@@princeofjudaea He's a "journalist" if you want to call it that. Our black community continues to go to his platform. That's on us.
Finally someone telling Vlad the truth about this Tax and Troy Ave situation
I love how Math silences Vlad towards the end of the interview.
This interview was probably the most damaging to Vlad's credibility. The bias here was crazy.
It will do nothing because our folks do not care.
so Vlad isnt allowed to give his opinion?
he should just shut up and be quiet?
No the bias was insane on Maths and actually.
Y’all need to hear Taxstones interview on Zip Wit The Drip to understand the actual situation.
💯 vlad was completely bias smh
“It wasn’t even in Brooklyn, it was in Manhattan” 😂🤣🤡💀💀💀
After 20 years in the game, Vlad has shown that he still doesn’t understand the culture 😂😂😂 I can’t wait for Dame Dash to speak on this.
S/o to Math. You gained a new fan.
Math made some extremely valid points here that I 1000% agree with
No Math didn't. That's why he started getting emotional.
@@billycarter1798You wrote he didnt because he got emotional yet youre in this comment section replying to every comment...
You sound like the emotional one to me tbh
Math won that argument..point blank!!
Yeup
No he didn’t he still mad that tax treated him like the clown he is
Period.
W/o a question. Vlad don’t wanna hear it because he’s been telling people for years Troy was wrong and his issues with Troy now he’s tlkn to someone tax violated also and see how tax was trying to bully all them mfs 😂 vlad take this L
Troy Ave should of never told his man to go hit him. Case closed.
Math is 100% RIGHT!!!
In what way specifically sir?
Not at all he's a hypocrite he knows if he got it on him he'd do the same and his mouth used to be reckless as well
Math is wrong like a mfka man
Nope
@@blackslav1497 Tax put himself in prison, he could have stopped that dumb shit he was doing but instead he killed a man and has to sit down for the next 3 decades.
Him making them faces while doing the phone typo thing was funny 😂😂
4:32 Math with a round 3 Summer Madness angle😂😂 “it was H-i-i-i-m-m-m” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hoffa shoulda said mention Banga one more time you gettin Dose’d
I hate when Vlad compares his situations to real street issues 🤦🏾♂️😭 Vlad you’re a civilian lol take pride in that
Vlad is a prime example of a dude who doesn’t understand real street from fake shit and cause he listens to hip hop and have hood friends. That he understands hood politics
Yoo the way Vlad said “FURIOUS” at 2:56 is too funny
“It wasn’t me it was him…it was heeeem”😂😂 4:52
How do you not equate talk with physical violence but then mentions Joe Buddens threats ? Vlad just making excuses
Yeah, he contradicted his whole argument
Vlad needs to mind his business
If Vlad minded his business you would no longer watch his platform
@@tdoggsmackem7498if vlad would stfu mf would actually watch 🤣🤣
😂
He don’t even need to be in black folks business
Telling an interviewer to mind his business is crazy 🤣
That’s the first time I heard Vlad with NO comeback damn, never heard a math Hoffa interview you jus got yourself a fan my dawg ✊🏾
“It wasn’t me. It was him…it was himmmm” 😂 That impression of Tax was fukn hilarious!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Vlad actin like him and tax grew up together 😭 I ain’t never seen him go this hard for somebody
This fruity mfer is only riding his nutz so hard bc he hates Troy that much. It's not even about him standing up for him.
“Thank you god” back to fucking with people 😂😂
That twitter finger facial expressions was wild.lool😂😂wildl 😂
Math Hoffa absolutely ETHERED Vlad. Credit to Vlad for putting it out.
Love how Vlad tries to equate his experiences to this and their not remotely similar. The difference is intent. Taxstone was intentionally being antagonistic to gain attention and views. Thus received what he got for being antagonistic and disrespectful. You can only prod at people for so long before sh!t hits the fan.
M.Hoffa, thank you, for imposing a factual perspective to this discussion and respect to knowing mom's would box you if ever let her down.
“it wasnt me,it was hennnnnnnnn …it was hennnnnnnnn” 😂😂😂😂
Vlad is such a joke he can’t admit that tax messed up. He’ll have a long time to think about it.
Vlad is like a woman, when he doesn't like someone he'll get into his emotions
FACTS, he sounds like a little kid losing an argument talking about they were in manhattan
I am just a random dude speaking from the heart. All that BS aside, keeping it real, I am just really happy for the path that Math Hoffa is on, man.
On some real.... we grew up watching this dude grow up and mature into who he is now. If you get to read this, stay inspiring people Math! There is lots of MFs out here who have not met you, but got real love for you and for what you doing with your sucess. God bless
100%. Matt Hoffa growth over the years is something inspiring tbh.
It wasn’t me it was him ✍️ it was hiiiimmmmmm 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m really starting to respect Math moral compass… didn’t know much about him outside of battle rap but this was absolutely on code!!
I’m surprised Vlad risked defending tax this hard! Math is clearly right about this. I deal with root causes where I’m from.
math i loved the text'n face 🤣
Lmaoo the way math talking is like he don’t have karma coming 😂😂😂
Vlad almost got Math back in battle rap mode and almost got hit 🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
This is why I refuse to argue with grown men . 90 % of ppl are only able to see the skin surface . No critical thinking or thought process.
One hundred percent.
Na bro Vlad KNOWS what it is in this debate, he's just pretending like he doesn't and that even more annoying
I haven’t clicked on a Vlad video in 8-9 months and I come here and see he’s still yelling over his guests like we care about his opinion
he said "yeah... thank you... back to fucking with people" 😆
My father always says it takes two to tango but only one to dash…. Tax had multiple opportunities to walk away and he didn’t so he’s gotta deal with the consequences of that choice …
Lol. At the beginning he named everyone but Joe 😂
Maths growth from battle rapper to doing his thing and dropping jewels on the podcast and interviews is ill ✊🏿
Vlad is king of emotional reasoning. He arguing like he thinking... Taxstone will be watching this..
Vlad thinking HIS OPINIONS MATTERS IN THE STREETS IS CRAZY.. 😂 vlad the same nigga who would snitch on boosie if the feds came
Inna damn heart beat lol
Yall say anything
I like Math Hoffa mimicking dude writing a letter and tweeting, that was hilarious
I'm 1000% with Math on this one if you ain't man enough to fight 1 on 1 with someone don't disrespect them smh
I can't understand why Vlad is inserting his personal bias into his interviews so much now. He's been doing it more frequently the past couple of years, almost like he wants to interview himself. He needs to leave his feelings at home and conduct the interview.
All facts.
I've noticed the same thing. It's called ''insecurity''. While Vlad is highly successful in what he's doing and like it or not he has been putting alot of work for almost around 20 years now, he sound so much insecure and childish.
Right shit is getting outta hand
He is slowly changing his brand to something more authoritative. Years ago Vlad was too humble to involve himself in street debates. Now he yelling at a Brooklyn nigga about murder cases and who did and didn't cooperate. Next year he will go further. He's trying to end up as a powerful voice in Black culture. I'd say he's well on his way.
Vlad is only defending Taxstone’s actions because they are friends. If they were not friends he would be condemning tax and calling him a bully etc. Vald has no credibility. One moment he’s like these rap beefs are stupid and the next he’s defending Taxstone because he’s his friend. I hope when other rappers come on and defend their friends no matter how ignorant the argument or beef that Vlad sits there and takes it. This whole thing is silly but Math is right.
Vlad just like CTHAGOD when it comes to that
@@SmooveTV718well math is friends with the other side so both are biased. I think taxstone definitely invited all this attention and is the one who started the shit.
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@blackvanguardrbg3468 Word. To the point that Vlad is using cooperation as a diss smh but any other time he’s all for cooperation. But since it’s troy……
Exactly
I imagine Taxstone watching this on a phone in prison
"It wasn't me. It was heem. It was heeeeem!" Lmaooo! 😂😂😂
VLAD & Akademiks be constantly putting their bodyguards in harms way. I know they paid well! 😂
Math preaching! He brought his battle rap energy out lol
People that’s not from Brooklyn, truly don’t get it when we say “you’re not from Brooklyn “
"he got on the fuckin stand" vlad sounds like jerry heller lol
At the end of the day, Tax went in there seeking out problems and got confronted with them. He constantly wanted to "test these fake street rappers gangsta" as he put it.
lmao 2:07 was when math realized he dont like vlad as much as he thought. everything math was saying went over vlad’s head. he kept saying this is a one way beef, vlad brought up beefs where two entities were going at eachother. he says the “backyard” analogy then vlad whiffs on what he meant and brings up manhattan 😂
Glad must’ve spent lawyer money for tax lol
Math Hoffa didn’t have that energy with Tony Yayo!!! 😂😂😂
Vlad just proves how much of a square he is every time he speaks 😂
Math isnt "gangster" either.
I wish all of Vlads guest would get on here and call out his bs and bias’s just like this
“Yeah thank you, back to fvckin’ w ppl” 😂😂😂
When you have to yell to try and prove you right 😅 ya probably wrong 😂😂😂😂
It was Hhhiiimmmmm Himmmmm 😂😂😂
2:05 shows how naive Vlad is 😑
Vlad Screaming who cooperated is wild 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂 like wtf
God said “ima give you another chance my man’s but you should probably stop fucking with people ” 😂😂😂
Bless math for not going to jail before, during or after this interview
Vlads friendship with Tax just cost him his friendship with Math. You wont see these two together anymore
Hell naw
Vlad comparing him and Joe budden back and forth to a real street situation is wild… dude swear he got opps.
Vlad is crazy for comparing his situation or lack there of with Joe Budden to Troy AVE and Taxstone. Joe has never been about violence and he said it many times he value his freedom rather than wasting it being violent with his ops and being around them. Math was right saying Vlad's situation with Joe isn't anywhere near comparable to Troy and Tax. Vlad's a 🤡.
@@gunnyo50 facts… been a goofy
This is da funniest interview I have seen
This is Hilaaarious 😂
Everything Math said went over Vlad head
It wasn’t me it was him…it was him😂😂😂😂 @4:51
😂😂😂
Y’all need to hear Taxstones interview on Zip Wit The Drip to understand the actual situation.
Words can never hurt you they teach you that in headstart
Vlad got COOKED!!! well done Math, well done Sir.
Bruh Vlad video titles be fckn hilarious 😂😂😂😂
On boondocks they called tax and troy situation a classic "nigga" moment gone wrong.
Proud of Math on this one