I thank you very much for your consideration, and for your studied insight into this sequence, you certainly did not run the other way, as too many do with anything connected with Al Jolson. That not being due to basic blackface/ but just that he is THE ANTI CONTEMPORARY CHRIST/ in an Entertainment perspective, he is the ADAM of popular Entertainment in fact, and if you are the first of anything, you have to also be the most ancient'/old/ and antiquated, even if in fact you are not. From middle to old age, Al Jolson was part of electronic technical media, with stars that arrived when that did, Garland/ Crosby/ Sinatra, Calloway etc etc. BUT HE STILL EVEN THEN HAD THIS OLD MAN OF SHOWBIZ REPUTATION, because he not only was part of but originally MADE IT HUGE in the STONE AGE/ THE PRE ELECTRONIC AND TECHNICALLY AGE/ STILL SO FAMILIAR TO US OF EVERYTHING! INCLUDING ENTERTAINMENT. Publicists/Public relations people, sponsors, publishers, politicians, anybody, and everybody in control of humanity, and FINANCIAL, OR PRESTIGE ADVANTAGE, will CONDEMN, in the past that has the potential of infringing on their CONTEMPORARY MANIPULATION OF ALL AND SUNDRY. It is obvious CORPSES DON'T BUY ANYTHING! Blackface, where JOLIE is concerned, with other things, the bad person he was? His general old ways? are all of course manipulated and fabricated out of obvious sensible in context consideration to get everybody to hate and totally avoid him! Now I can meet half way with you, in considering watching something like this from a as I write this 2024 perspective. As I am not brainwashed by PROFIT PROTECTING BRAINWASHING, I can still appreciate it from it's in time perspective, but to anybody viewing it now, with contemporary brainwashing or not, it still is ODD. How darker complexioned people, felt about blackface then, or Al Jolson, or anybody, then, or at any time it would have varied depending on time and place and their own situations. I have audio interviews with Cab Calloway/ and videos of Faya Nicholis making it obvious, THAT THEY FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING IN MOVIES WITH EDDIE CANTOR/ AL JOLSON, ETC DOING MINSTREL STUFF. In fact in a video I have of Faye Nicholis at an Eddie Cantor Society meeting, he jokes about a minstrel sequence he was in , in an Eddie Cantor movie, where blacks and whites were mixed, some in blackface like here, mixed. That's Wini Shaw the SISTER, in BLACKFACE. think she was pretty big as a radio singer at the time? Anyhow Faya, makes a joke about the pretty white girls he was admiring in this sequence in the Cantor movie, commenting "NOW THAT'S THE INTERGRATION I LIKE! The attendees laugh their heads off of course. Some of the minstrel, in fact musical old sing-a-long days in Entertainment, don't include blackface/ like in White Christmas, but they still refer to it, and there is blacks only ones acting FOOLISH, as is the MODERN DESCRIPTION OF IT. I.E JUST WATCHED MOMMA'S HOUSE THE OTHER NIGHT! I think, EVERYTHING IS MY CONCLUSION and I respect everybody's right to differ, or have different understandings, but 2 fairly recent movies Bamboozled and Minstrel Man, pretty certain all done by/ acted in etc by non whites. pretty well, they may have financed whatever? The Former is nothing but A VEHICLE FOR CONTEMPORARY PROFIT, where as the other is much more genuine and based on more of a proper insight into the real period of Minstrelsy from like 1830 something to about 1910. and gives a more balanced perspective. Al Jolson Eddie Cantor. Bert Williams a black man, were not just basic minstrels, but characters, or performers blacked up, playing roles in different stage shows and movies. In core CONCERNED AL JOLSON INTERESTS IT IS AN ENIGMA, the whole blackface THING, THERE IS THOSE DEMANDING OBLITORATE IT ENTIRELY. IT IS DESTROYING ANY HOPE OF MAINTAINING ANY LEGACY FOR HIM/ OTHERS THE OPPOSITE MAINTAIN AND ENDORSE IT/ IT WAS HIS TIME. HE DID NOTHING WRONG FOR THE TIME/ ALL LOVED IT/ BLACK WHITE OR OTHER/ AND THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE FOR THAT. Then there is those in the middle as long as it is explained, disclaimed etc etc, I CERTAINLY DON'T GO AS FAR TO TRY AND REMOVE IT TOTALLY FROM MEMORY, that would not work, because where JOLIE is concerned, well it is like Jimmy Durante/s nose to him, or Loius Armstrong's gravelly voice, it's instantly linked with them. Al Jolson he was the singer who put black on his face is, ALMOST ALWAYS THE FIRST THING THAT COMES UP IN ANY CONVERSTATION ABOUT HIM, disclaimers etc only confuses things, and there is no way to be exact, we just don't know, what happened, and how things really were centuries ago, or at least began then. ALL we can do is I think, like you indicate here, this is ok, but the blackface turns you off. I respect your right to come to that conclusion, from your more modern angle. So what I do, around All Al Jolson interest sites. Facebook etc, and others connected, Broadway/ movie musicals. vaudeville, old time radio etc, is avoid as best as possible concluding blackface in photos. videos, articles etc, and focus on him in sports coats, top hats. and tails, turtle neck sweaters which was a more later modern Jolson persona, like the sounds, of the big bands etc. much more palatable today, than that of the older styles of much earlier times, connected with the blackface, In historical context I use it, like in a recent A1 video I put around touching on some of the varying singing styles Al used in his time. Thanks sincerely for this, and all your posts. Re links to more. www.jolson.org Links to my self aljolson.weebly.com
Al Jolson was extremely talented, MASSIVELY population and influential, from long before films. Millions of folks adored him. I don't argue with that at all.
Just posted a reaction to another number from the same movie, and as you will see, I am very positive about him: th-cam.com/video/u9bUiOgIrSQ/w-d-xo.html
You cannot compare how “offended” you are to how U.S. citizens of 1936 felt about Al Jolson’s and Wini Shaw’s screen performances in blackface. Moreover, you constantly gloomily saying “blackface, blackface” detracts from the enjoyment of this film clip. It’s obvious you don’t understand or like Jewish performers from the 1920s, ‘30s and ‘40s who performed in blackface.
Agree/ only thing is mostly Society in general these days is totally brainwashed to have nothing but total hatred of what is simply a dated art,. The BRAINWASHING IS FOR ONE REASON -TO PROTECT CONTEMPORARY PROFIT! I have a DVD, you may also? FayaT Nicholis at an Eddie Cantor Society meeting, in the 1990's, maybe early 200's? and discussion comes up about him, and Harold? Just forget the specifics? Anyhow in a Cantor Movie, in a minstrel scene with Eddie, and others. in and out of blackface. Fayat reacts this way.'. Begins singing. ' I WANNA BE A MINSTREL MAN" - and then stating' Oh the pretty girls in that scene, now that's what I call intergration! of course he, and everybody laugh. It would not have personally mattered to me. if Al, or Winnie Shaw was not in blackface here, but still in a 1936. or any time aspect there is still nothing wrong with it. in THE ISOLATION OF THE SEQUENCE. collating it with Jim Crow/ slavery etc etc, of WHICH CONTEMPORARY PROFIT PROTECTORS DO. IS WHAT DISCRIMINATES IT!
If you don't want to hear my comments, just watch the original video. The link is right there. To respond: Naturally I don't "understand," but that is the point of a reaction channel -- to experience, to try to understand, to experience. If I already knew everything and had listened and watched this many times, why would I be making a recording of it? Again, if you want to watch the performance, you are welcome to watch it without me. Another purpose of this channel is to hear from people in comments who will explain and teach, agree, disagree. I will say that understand a great deal about Jewish performers of the early 20th century, going back to the 00s, 10s, 20s, 30s etc., but not this /particular/ aspect. So, instead of condemning my ignorance, why don't you say something constructive, like give me references to where I can hear people's original reactions or read the history? If you art going to criticize, back it up, or it's simply rude. Something else that is rude is to make accusations of bigotry to someone who you don't know at all. (Maybe you are not doing this but other people have done that.) I don't need to prove to you my "cred" on this, but it still insults me to have someone tell me what I know/feel. Maybe I can guess some things about you, but I won't because you don't say anything.
If you genuinely want to know what black people of the time thought of this, then may I respectfully suggest you source an interview given by Cab Calloway regarding this very subject, who incidentally also starred in this film. Of course, you may already mention this in your video but to be truthful, after listening to your tired, bigoted views, I simply gave up after the first three minutes.
I'm not sure how my comments can be classified as "tired, bigoted views." Who I am I being bigoted towards? I was trying to work out the whole dynamic between the minstrel and the other performers, in real time, to make sense of it. I genuinely don't know if they were OK with it or not. I hate it, 100 years later, but that's my contemporary perspective. As for finding an interview with Cab Calloway or his contemporaries, that's an excellent suggestion. Do you have any recommendations for books or online sources?
@@DarlingReacts - I am in possession of a radio interview with Cab Calloway in which he discuss the issue of blackface but unfortunately the biggest problem would be how I can actually get this to you. One suggestion may well be if you were to contact the International Al Jolson Society and whereas I obviously I cannot speak for this organisation, they may be able to forward you a copy of it.
@DarlingReact...no you're not . being a liberal whiner trying to stir the pot..if you have SUCH a problem with Americas history why don't you move to Nigeria and see how it works out for you... gtfoh.. CONGRATULATIONS on jumping on the bandwagon that gets you no respect from EITHER race🤡🫵
The presenter here. is dominated by contemporary forces hell bent on nothing but their personal glory. approval gain and profit, without any concern for anything or any body else. Elsewhere,[ it might have been removed due to some you tube legalities or such? ] I have linked both the American and Australian Jolson Societies for the presenter, if she wants to, too check them out to be exposed to varying opinions. understandings/ links to sites etc focused on minstrelsy blackface etc. some allied with you. ONLY THING IS /DUE TO YOUR DEVOTION TO CERTAIN HIGH PROFILED ABOVE ALL IN AL JOLSON CORE INTERESTS AND CONCERNED PLATFORMS/ YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LAWS/ ALLIED WITH OTHERS DICTATING OVER ALL. MANY DECENT CONSIDERATE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY BANNED FROM EVEN BEING ABLE TO BE PART OF SEVERAL AL JOLSON SITES! IF YOU CONCEDE THIS DOG WITH A BONE ATTITUDE IS THE BEST WAY TO PERPETUATE AL JOLSON AND GET HIM EXPOSED TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE - I DONT! PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING YOU HAVE DOMINANCE TO LINK YOURESLF BACK WITH THOSE YOU CAGED, WHEN YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER! THE REAL TRUTH REALITY BOTTOM LINE IS YOUR NOT DEDICATED TO AL JOLSON BUT YOURSELF!
I thank you very much for your consideration, and for your studied insight into this sequence, you certainly did not run the other way, as too many do with anything connected with Al Jolson. That not being due to basic blackface/ but just that he is THE ANTI CONTEMPORARY CHRIST/ in an Entertainment perspective, he is the ADAM of popular Entertainment in fact, and if you are the first of anything, you have to also be the most ancient'/old/ and antiquated, even if in fact you are not. From middle to old age, Al Jolson was part of electronic technical media, with stars that arrived when that did, Garland/ Crosby/ Sinatra, Calloway etc etc. BUT HE STILL EVEN THEN HAD THIS OLD MAN OF SHOWBIZ REPUTATION, because he not only was part of but originally MADE IT HUGE in the STONE AGE/ THE PRE ELECTRONIC AND TECHNICALLY AGE/ STILL SO FAMILIAR TO US OF EVERYTHING! INCLUDING ENTERTAINMENT. Publicists/Public relations people, sponsors, publishers, politicians, anybody, and everybody in control of humanity, and FINANCIAL, OR PRESTIGE ADVANTAGE, will CONDEMN, in the past that has the potential of infringing on their CONTEMPORARY MANIPULATION OF ALL AND SUNDRY. It is obvious CORPSES DON'T BUY ANYTHING! Blackface, where JOLIE is concerned, with other things, the bad person he was? His general old ways? are all of course manipulated and fabricated out of obvious sensible in context consideration to get everybody to hate and totally avoid him! Now I can meet half way with you, in considering watching something like this from a as I write this 2024 perspective. As I am not brainwashed by PROFIT PROTECTING BRAINWASHING, I can still appreciate it from it's in time perspective, but to anybody viewing it now, with contemporary brainwashing or not, it still is ODD. How darker complexioned people, felt about blackface then, or Al Jolson, or anybody, then, or at any time it would have varied depending on time and place and their own situations. I have audio interviews with Cab Calloway/ and videos of Faya Nicholis making it obvious, THAT THEY FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING IN MOVIES WITH EDDIE CANTOR/ AL JOLSON, ETC DOING MINSTREL STUFF. In fact in a video I have of Faye Nicholis at an Eddie Cantor Society meeting, he jokes about a minstrel sequence he was in , in an Eddie Cantor movie, where blacks and whites were mixed, some in blackface like here, mixed. That's Wini Shaw the SISTER, in BLACKFACE. think she was pretty big as a radio singer at the time? Anyhow Faya, makes a joke about the pretty white girls he was admiring in this sequence in the Cantor movie, commenting "NOW THAT'S THE INTERGRATION I LIKE! The attendees laugh their heads off of course. Some of the minstrel, in fact musical old sing-a-long days in Entertainment, don't include blackface/ like in White Christmas, but they still refer to it, and there is blacks only ones acting FOOLISH, as is the MODERN DESCRIPTION OF IT. I.E JUST WATCHED MOMMA'S HOUSE THE OTHER NIGHT! I think, EVERYTHING IS MY CONCLUSION and I respect everybody's right to differ, or have different understandings, but 2 fairly recent movies Bamboozled and Minstrel Man, pretty certain all done by/ acted in etc by non whites. pretty well, they may have financed whatever? The Former is nothing but A VEHICLE FOR CONTEMPORARY PROFIT, where as the other is much more genuine and based on more of a proper insight into the real period of Minstrelsy from like 1830 something to about 1910. and gives a more balanced perspective. Al Jolson Eddie Cantor. Bert Williams a black man, were not just basic minstrels, but characters, or performers blacked up, playing roles in different stage shows and movies. In core CONCERNED AL JOLSON INTERESTS IT IS AN ENIGMA, the whole blackface THING, THERE IS THOSE DEMANDING OBLITORATE IT ENTIRELY. IT IS DESTROYING ANY HOPE OF MAINTAINING ANY LEGACY FOR HIM/ OTHERS THE OPPOSITE MAINTAIN AND ENDORSE IT/ IT WAS HIS TIME. HE DID NOTHING WRONG FOR THE TIME/ ALL LOVED IT/ BLACK WHITE OR OTHER/ AND THERE IS PLENTY OF EVIDENCE FOR THAT. Then there is those in the middle as long as it is explained, disclaimed etc etc, I CERTAINLY DON'T GO AS FAR TO TRY AND REMOVE IT TOTALLY FROM MEMORY, that would not work, because where JOLIE is concerned, well it is like Jimmy Durante/s nose to him, or Loius Armstrong's gravelly voice, it's instantly linked with them. Al Jolson he was the singer who put black on his face is, ALMOST ALWAYS THE FIRST THING THAT COMES UP IN ANY CONVERSTATION ABOUT HIM, disclaimers etc only confuses things, and there is no way to be exact, we just don't know, what happened, and how things really were centuries ago, or at least began then. ALL we can do is I think, like you indicate here, this is ok, but the blackface turns you off. I respect your right to come to that conclusion, from your more modern angle. So what I do, around All Al Jolson interest sites. Facebook etc, and others connected, Broadway/ movie musicals. vaudeville, old time radio etc, is avoid as best as possible concluding blackface in photos. videos, articles etc, and focus on him in sports coats, top hats. and tails, turtle neck sweaters which was a more later modern Jolson persona, like the sounds, of the big bands etc. much more palatable today, than that of the older styles of much earlier times, connected with the blackface, In historical context I use it, like in a recent A1 video I put around touching on some of the varying singing styles Al used in his time. Thanks sincerely for this, and all your posts. Re links to more. www.jolson.org Links to my self aljolson.weebly.com
Al Jolson was extremely talented, MASSIVELY population and influential, from long before films. Millions of folks adored him. I don't argue with that at all.
Just posted a reaction to another number from the same movie, and as you will see, I am very positive about him: th-cam.com/video/u9bUiOgIrSQ/w-d-xo.html
You cannot compare how “offended” you are to how U.S. citizens of 1936 felt about Al Jolson’s and Wini Shaw’s screen performances in blackface. Moreover, you constantly gloomily saying “blackface, blackface” detracts from the enjoyment of this film clip. It’s obvious you don’t understand or like Jewish performers from the 1920s, ‘30s and ‘40s who performed in blackface.
Agree/ only thing is mostly Society in general these days is totally brainwashed to have nothing but total hatred of what is simply a dated art,. The BRAINWASHING IS FOR ONE REASON -TO PROTECT CONTEMPORARY PROFIT! I have a DVD, you may also? FayaT Nicholis at an Eddie Cantor Society meeting, in the 1990's, maybe early 200's? and discussion comes up about him, and Harold? Just forget the specifics? Anyhow in a Cantor Movie, in a minstrel scene with Eddie, and others. in and out of blackface. Fayat reacts this way.'. Begins singing. ' I WANNA BE A MINSTREL MAN" - and then stating' Oh the pretty girls in that scene, now that's what I call intergration! of course he, and everybody laugh. It would not have personally mattered to me. if Al, or Winnie Shaw was not in blackface here, but still in a 1936. or any time aspect there is still nothing wrong with it. in THE ISOLATION OF THE SEQUENCE. collating it with Jim Crow/ slavery etc etc, of WHICH CONTEMPORARY PROFIT PROTECTORS DO. IS WHAT DISCRIMINATES IT!
If you don't want to hear my comments, just watch the original video. The link is right there.
To respond:
Naturally I don't "understand," but that is the point of a reaction channel -- to experience, to try to understand, to experience. If I already knew everything and had listened and watched this many times, why would I be making a recording of it? Again, if you want to watch the performance, you are welcome to watch it without me.
Another purpose of this channel is to hear from people in comments who will explain and teach, agree, disagree. I will say that understand a great deal about Jewish performers of the early 20th century, going back to the 00s, 10s, 20s, 30s etc., but not this /particular/ aspect. So, instead of condemning my ignorance, why don't you say something constructive, like give me references to where I can hear people's original reactions or read the history? If you art going to criticize, back it up, or it's simply rude.
Something else that is rude is to make accusations of bigotry to someone who you don't know at all. (Maybe you are not doing this but other people have done that.) I don't need to prove to you my "cred" on this, but it still insults me to have someone tell me what I know/feel. Maybe I can guess some things about you, but I won't because you don't say anything.
If you genuinely want to know what black people of the time thought of this, then may I respectfully suggest you source an interview given by Cab Calloway regarding this very subject, who incidentally also starred in this film. Of course, you may already mention this in your video but to be truthful, after listening to your tired, bigoted views, I simply gave up after the first three minutes.
I'm not sure how my comments can be classified as "tired, bigoted views." Who I am I being bigoted towards? I was trying to work out the whole dynamic between the minstrel and the other performers, in real time, to make sense of it. I genuinely don't know if they were OK with it or not. I hate it, 100 years later, but that's my contemporary perspective.
As for finding an interview with Cab Calloway or his contemporaries, that's an excellent suggestion. Do you have any recommendations for books or online sources?
@@DarlingReacts - I am in possession of a radio interview with Cab Calloway in which he discuss the issue of blackface but unfortunately the biggest problem would be how I can actually get this to you. One suggestion may well be if you were to contact the International Al Jolson Society and whereas I obviously I cannot speak for this organisation, they may be able to forward you a copy of it.
@DarlingReact...no you're not . being a liberal whiner trying to stir the pot..if you have SUCH a problem with Americas history why don't you move to Nigeria and see how it works out for you... gtfoh.. CONGRATULATIONS on jumping on the bandwagon that gets you no respect from EITHER race🤡🫵
The presenter here. is dominated by contemporary forces hell bent on nothing but their personal glory. approval gain and profit, without any concern for anything or any body else. Elsewhere,[ it might have been removed due to some you tube legalities or such? ] I have linked both the American and Australian Jolson Societies for the presenter, if she wants to, too check them out to be exposed to varying opinions. understandings/ links to sites etc focused on minstrelsy blackface etc. some allied with you. ONLY THING IS /DUE TO YOUR DEVOTION TO CERTAIN HIGH PROFILED ABOVE ALL IN AL JOLSON CORE INTERESTS AND CONCERNED PLATFORMS/ YOU HAVE YOUR OWN LAWS/ ALLIED WITH OTHERS DICTATING OVER ALL. MANY DECENT CONSIDERATE PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY BANNED FROM EVEN BEING ABLE TO BE PART OF SEVERAL AL JOLSON SITES! IF YOU CONCEDE THIS DOG WITH A BONE ATTITUDE IS THE BEST WAY TO PERPETUATE AL JOLSON AND GET HIM EXPOSED TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE - I DONT! PARTICULARLY CONSIDERING YOU HAVE DOMINANCE TO LINK YOURESLF BACK WITH THOSE YOU CAGED, WHEN YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER! THE REAL TRUTH REALITY BOTTOM LINE IS YOUR NOT DEDICATED TO AL JOLSON BUT YOURSELF!