New Revel Beryllium & JBL HDI Series Speakers Revealed!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.ค. 2024
- Harman unleashed a fury of new products at CEDIA 2019. Most notably were the expansion of the Revel Beryllium series and the new HDI series from JBL. The four full-range models of the HDI Series are based upon JBL’s patented 2410H-2 compression driver, benefiting from advanced research and applications from JBL Professional’s D2 range of transducers. Revel's extended their Performa Beryllium series with 3 new models, including a flaghship tower, the F328Be with triple 8" bass drivers, and a newly developed 1" Beryllium tweeter and waveguide system. Watch our interview with Jim Garrett to learn more about these exciting new products from JBL and Revel.
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I always appreciate those longer two hours or more videos
You sir are a no nonsense straight forward professional.... Keep up the good work.
Great job as usual Gene. Thanks for sharing, very good information.
I love the grey wood finish on those JBL. In the past they've managed to make horns that aren't bright sounding so hopefully they continue in that direction.
Love the JBL’s, the finish look great on all the models, dig the cabinetry design with the rounded edges.
InstaBlaster...
Listened to the HDI 3800's the other day and WOW my mind was blown!
Those Revel speakers look awesome but there's something about the look of those jbl speakers that are winning me over! 😁
those JBLs look awesome in person. I'm wanting a pair myself!
revel looks like SHIT...they looks like vacuum cleaners,it's time to return to the REAL speaker look with 15 inch woofer and not these ugly tiny towers
@@Audioholics Good to know and thanks for the video! I was all set on the Revel F208s ($5k list) until I saw the new JBL HDI 3800 towers (also $5k list). I wonder how they compare/contrast in a home theater setting.
@@blswagger0764 Go JBL! The one advantage all JBL have in common is DYNAMIC REALISM. That has always been their goal since day one and that is their signature sound. Compression drivers come alive in a way conventional speakers can never match. If you want excitement and articulate detail you can't beat JBL. If you are more of a subtle nuance, fine detail listener there are more suitable speakers out there.
@@keithmoriyama5421 I went with Revels over 3 years ago (f226be and c426be up front, f206 surrounds, and c763l ceilings).
Will be very interesting, I have now JBL LS80 which I've had since 2009, and they are still fantastic speakers. I've heard several more expensive speakers which I did not like much better.
Those SB's looks amazing. Wish i could listen to them!
Very informative video, thanks.
Dang, one day I’ll buy those.
I had the jbl 305 for 2 years, its absolute amazing what they packed into this speaker for the insanely low price. Real innovations that make great audio accessible to everyone not just elite
Lol, I need, er, want me a set of those F328 big boys!
Those JBL HDI speakers look like an amazing value.
They are ugly..tiny towers! check the fantastic MAGNAT TRANSPULS with a real speaker look with a 15 inch woofer
@@markussukram9290 I've heard the Transpuls and they were an incoherent mess. Sure there was power in the low end but that's about it. Horrible imaging, a jumbled mess.
@@reallyeffingcooltechnodude Not true,I've also heard the Transpuls as well as many other people and they are the best speaker on this planet around 1000 dollar/euro. The imaging is great ,they just need a few hours of use to give the best.
@@markussukram9290 so now we're comparing speaker designs from 60-years ago to some of the best design of today? Save yourself some money and get some Cerwin Vegas.
@@brois841 "the best design of today " are pathetic images of vacuum cleaners ugly tiny towers and other ridicolous shapes. A speaker MUST look like a speaker!!! It's like the ugly skyscrapers that looks like shit compared to the magnificent classic (read IMMORTAL) buildings, churches ets,,,or the shitty graffitis compared to the masterpieces of Michelangelo or Raffaello....the past is the best because means QUALITY!! Only the ignorant cannot understand these simple facts.
Great video. It would have been nice had they covered the crossovers; capacitors, inductors - did they use anything special? What about the wire they used, anything special about the resistors? Binding posts - more conductive? What alloy, is that bottlenecking the signal at all? What about competitive to B&W. But again, great interview and coverage of some great speakers! JBL drivers sound special - have me sold..
Yes!
Not everyone is listening to music only. We movie lovers DO EXIST!!!
You know what's actually exciting from Harman? The new $6k JBL Synthesis SDP-55 Surround Sound Processor with DANTE!!!! Digital outs! Second zones everywhere! DANTE enabled active speakers!
I need to look into this since I'm switching to active speakers soon. I will find out more. Thanks.
@SevenAcid 16 channel of Dante for 6k from JBL is excellent. But if you don't want Dante, the Arcam AV40 is a 16 channel preamp with Dirac for 4.5k. Or the Datasat/Monoprice 16 channel for 4k. Marantz needs to up their game or drop their price.
quality video as usual
What a great video! How would the new JBL's compare to the vintage JBL L7's? I have a pair of L7's that sound fantastic and would live to know the difference between the two if possible. Thanks for all that you do for the community! 👍 😊 🎶 🔊
zomg i want those HDI floorstanders
Beryllium tweeters pioneered by Yamaha -- NS10000 hard to beat.
i want to know how those HDI compare to the 708's as they are my next speaker choice when I upgrade. I would rather not go through the hassle of using active or passive 708i's with the DCI or BSS Blue if I didnt need to.
Very interested in the new jbl towers ,especially if they put them on sale for 50% off like their other towers
They are ugly..tiny towers! check the fantastic MAGNAT TRANSPULS with a real speaker look with a 15 inch woofer
@@markussukram9290 Magnaf Transpul is incredibly ugly. Are you on drugs?
@@markussukram9290 If you want to go that route you might as well buy REAL JBL studio monitors and the MT will wilt in the sun.
Hello ,can you recomend me the best Revel Center for HT . I already have the Front F228be . C426 or C208
Oh boy! Weekend got better.
Remind us to "Subscribe and Ring that Bell"!! Thank you for all of the great content!! I would like to know more about center channel configurations and witch is best. Also, it would be nice to know why you chose the balanced MiniDSP instead of the others and show how you wired the balanced and why you would you that over the other options and why you might use one of the other options.
OMG Confusion galore. How do you choose between JBL HDI and Paradigm Premier/Prestige? Or maybe go complete active setup with identical L/C/R? Decisions decisions....
what’s the difference with 3800 hid model vs the studio 698 ? cause i own a pair of studio 590s and i’m not sure if i should upgrade or not
Hi, I am learner
Can you guide me about how bi-amp devlop with current available amplifier?
My question is if I 30 watts tweeter and 80 watts woofer both 8 ohm but supply individual . So how can I Mach both different amplifier gain ?
For good quality sound .
not a good idea. biamp a passive speaker with matched amplifier output.
Which series will be considered an upgrade from M&K S150?
I don't like it, I don't like it at all... I love it. Thanks
Want - 'nuff said.
Very Nice speakers.
What are their plans for Infinity? Is it dead like Boston with Sound United.
I would like to see a return of the Kappa line.
seems dead RN, which is sad. Long live Kappa!
I got three perfect shape RBH C-770 mtm's for a front wall of sound for $300 from an angry, recently divorced lady off of Craigslist...because that's how I roll. She even threw in a 12" Velodyne sub...she had no idea how much those speakers were worth and I still smile everytime I look at them/hear them.
I am not sure how I would feel about speakers that cost even 5k, let alone 16k... no matter how they sounded.
The most I ever spent on speakers were some demo models of some nice MB Quart Q1002 Towers back in 1993 or so. Got em for 1k apiece from speakerlab in seattle and they still sound great.
You do get what you pay for in speakers but you CAN get them for a much better deal that will make them happy speakers for many years to come.
I really love the look of these speakers and really want to hear them but as soon as you start talking about how much they cost I know for sure I am not getting them unless some rich guy upgrades to something even more fancy and just wants to get rid of them for cheap.
I still don't understand why screw holes (in the tweeter baffle) are still visible in this price range.
It seems your paying a lot of extra cash for the beautiful cosmetics of the Revel line. High quality speakers at a very high price.
LOL
I don't know the total history of Revel....but Harmen R&D must have vastly improved them. The original salons sounded boxy to me.
Very similar to my Infinity MMD and CMMD speakers
Being rear ported, how many inches away from the wall?
Usually 2 - 3 feet.
I was really enjoying the video until he mentioned the price of the bookshelf speakers and I said whoa! No way! Too much for me and stopped the video.
thanks to harmon for fuckin' up what used to define the west coast rock n' roll sound...……….
I wish I had money
Don't wish, get to work
I'm thinking the FOCAL
Electra 1008BE Focal Factory Refurbished for 2k is a much better value. With same regular 5year warranty! Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong:)
Comparing a bookshelf to a flagship tower, definitely wrong.
@@Audioholics I'm comparing a bookshelf to a bookshelf. Please look it up.
@@ryanschipp8513 we aren't even discussing the bookshelf in this video and comparing new to used is silly. Both the Revel and Focal bookshelf speakers have similar retail prices.
We've measured the Revels to be among the best bookshelf speakers to date and Harman has the science to back it up. These speakers are well engineered and worth their asking prices for those serious about audio.
@@Audioholics Gene, I appreciate your time and response. I'm an avid follower yours. In the very beginning of the video you talk about a 4k Revel Bookshelf speaker. I'm comparing that to a Focal bookshelf at 2k....not used...but Focal Factory refurbished by Focal. With a 5 year warranty. Not sure how we are mixing facts here.....
@@Audioholics Id also like to mention the $1500 Canton Vento Reference 9.2 speaker(NEW). Canton has made speakers for over 45 years in Germany. I'm simply conveying that there are other manufacturers that have incredible bookshelf speakers for a fraction of the Revel bookshelf cost. Stereophile gave a stellar grade to the Canton. Test the Focal and Canton I mention. You can't tell me they both arent extremely serious HIFI speakers especially for 2k and 1.5k.
I like the JBL stuff but the pricing doesn't seem to be competitive... 5000 bucks for the big towers? You can get the new monitor audio gold 300 for that money :D
I guess Focal was on 2 something w/ Beryllium tweeters. Copycats! Jk everybody copies something eventually. I'm sure these r gr8
How long was Focal using beryllium tweeters because Yamaha was using pure beryllium tweeters in their ns1000m speakers 40 years ago.
@@marvinmurakami8828 is it so important who chose what first ? It's about who uses it the right way and makes it sound best, isn't it ? Are we also discussing who used carbon fiber first in the automotive industry ? It's about who's the fastest... and most reliable :-) :-)
@@dawn-moon did you read gizzy2403's comment. He probably wasn't aware Yamaha was using pure beryllium tweeters and I believe midranges too 40 years ago. The Yamaha ns1000m speakers were way ahead of their time and considered excellent sounding to this day. Who knows? Maybe he might have enlightened me that Focal was using pure beryllium tweeters 50 years ago.
@@dawn-moon You may as well have commented on the other guy saying they "copied" Focal lol.
Come on. $16,000 a pair. I’m finding that a old pair of something flag ship is sounding speakers sound the same to new flagship speakers i listen too at a audio store. I call snake oil!
Yep. Great call. The Canton Vento Reference 3.2's are $4600 NEW!!!!!!!! German made. Ceramic tweeter. 108lbs. Over 45 years of engineering. A tremendous buy over the Revels. OH! And you get a free center channel that is no joke. What a value!!
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Nothing about the Harman brands are snake oil. Study some of their research and you will appreciate their approach more.
@@Audioholics whenever you have the time, check out the 3700 AVR. Basically complete trash.
they are copying paradigm :)
Michel Haineault notice how all these SUV crossover vehicles all look alike? When the technology reaches an apex ( aerodynamics in cars) things look alike, my LSA speakers have the same cabinet shape as these and Paradigm with the tapered rear. Anyway my thoughts
Or....CANTON
Vento Reference 9.2 NEW...$1499 a pair.
The wood finish version is worth 100 more!
@@eug3nius beautiful isnt it?
Looks like JBL was quick to copy Wharfedale's bottom port slot system? Not sure who did it first, maybe another company. Seems like a better idea than back or front ports.
They are ugly..tiny towers! check the fantastic MAGNAT TRANSPULS with a real speaker look with a 15 inch woofer
@@markussukram9290 Looks interesting but not available in the U.S.A.
@@JPWinters Unfortunately they are not yet available in US but they are having great success in Russia and in Europe,there's nothing like that on the market, a classic JBL sound (and look) for a fraction of the cost.
@@JPWinters There's probably some older Magnat stuff available. I used to own a pair, not too bad sounding, though it would be different than horn loaded drivers
B&W has a bottom loaded port too. There's probably been some old speaker that used it anyway before all these other ones
Price unbelievable discount on all Revel speakers call HiFi Buys Nashville TN. Ask for Shaun tell him Jason B Paducah sent you.... I’m a customer and example 2006 purchased brand new Revel Ultimate Gems and Voice paid less than Half the Retail Price....’.
$16000 per pair!!!!!!! you can buy another human being for that sort of money
That's sick
@@Audioholics
we live in a sick world :(
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$16K/pr? GTFOH! I'll take Klipsch's Cornwall IVs, for $6K/pr, over these. Anytime!
He know Harmon products, we'll isn't it a good thing he is head of products mananagement for Harmon..duh
No he doesn't work for "Harmon". Duh.
@@Audioholics Jim garrett, senior director for Harmon products?
@@60zeller Jim Garret does NOT work for "Harmon".
@Audioholics sorry for confusion, did he not introduce himself as senior director of product strategy and planning for Harmon Audio group. Sounds like he works for them. I don’t care one way or another. I was just being a smart ass that someone with that title would certainly have a lot of knowledge of Harmon products.
Fan of your channel, apologize if I came if as rude.
@@60zeller he never said he works for "Harmon". "Harmon" is not an audio company.
Remember when Titanium was the buzz? Remember when diamond (carbon crystal) tweeters were the rage? Yeah, diamond sucked. In every application. Now BE "light and rigid" is the buzz, even though Yamaha did it in the 80's and it was like the diamond: a gimmick with no guarantee of superior sound.
magnets and drive motors (not to mention amps) are so powerful now, there is no need at all for expensive and exotic alloy drivers for the sake of light weight. It's possible to make good-sounding drivers made of thin steel. Well hey, at least BE is not resonant like titanium and aluminum.
JBL has a history of obfuscating horns. It's just a horn.
HDI "Horn drive interface" to be honest.
Much like the old "Oblate " tweeter horn.
BTW: a great threeway speaker > 2 way. Period. A 2-way is just cheaper to make, with less engineering.
"Marketing is lies and deceit formulated to sell junk to fools."
I can't justify the expense when the sum of the parts don't add up to the askimg price. I can't even begin to think about any of the revel line-up, nor would I. There are too many options that I can live with that cost far less. Plus speaker technology hasn't changed much, so updating vintage speakers can be much more worthwhile.
And great 2-way speaker is better than an average 3-way
Jbl’s look like they’re copy of the klipsch speakers.