How did Jun-Ho snuck into the transportation ship to the island undetected in the first season and almost speedran the whole progress of the show by “working” behind the scenes then? Care to explain that? They only succeeded because they wanted to definitely make sure that they weren’t followed this time, hence why bringing alongside with the Front Man for his high intellectual strategy and take away Gi-Hun’s hidden tooth tracker
0:45 Gi Hun still doesn’t realize it lol. Oh il-nam won by even getting him to play that game. What he was doing was getting Gi Hun to bet on someone’s life, just like the vips were doing. Sure its not to the same extent but, though Oh il-nam lost the 7th game, he showed Gi Hun exactly why he started the squid games and proved he was no better.
He didn't win or ''prove'' anything, the only reason Gi-hun accepted to do that bet was because Il-nam would not tell him about the reason he created the games otherwise, did yall even watch the scene? 🤦♀ Yall keep saying the same shit that just by accepting to play that last game he ''proved that he was no better/different'' when at the beginning we literally see him not even listening and ready to kill Il-nam - if Il-nam hadn't baited him with the exchange of giving him the explanation behind the games, then Gi-hun would've either probably killed him or just walk off, it's not like he could literally force the explanation out of him so he basically had no choice 🙄😑 and no you can't say that that's exactly why it shows that he's exactly the same because betting on someone's life for some sick twisted idea of entertainment, versus doing it because you're practically being taunted with vital information is very different - all Gi-hun wanted was closure and Il-nam knew that so he was just toying with him again just like he was doing throughout the entirety of the games. So no, accepting to play that last game does not prove that he's the same at all and Il-nam's explanation doesn't make sense either because like I said, he practically had to force Gi-hun to play.
wrong. 1. gi hun does not sponsor the drunkard's death, the rich sponsor the deaths of the squid game players. 2. gi hun bets so that il nam explains his motivation, 3. gi hun bets in the name of altruism and hope. the rich bets because they have nothing better to do and think the lives of poor people are worthless. consequentialist or not, the nature of gi hun's bet is different to that of the rich. what's worse, this is evidently the intent of the director: the scene is to show that gi hun is no longer just a passive survivor, but a willing fighter firmly standing against the cynicism used to justify the game. but you've watched one too many video essays on how vince gilligan manipulated people into rooting for walter white that you think any analysis that anticipates some kind of subvertation with regards to the protagonist's morality is insightful.
@@shum8104 Still, the homeless man was suffering while Gi-hun was betting on him. His motives were different to the VIP's, sure, but at that moment playing the game with Il Nam became more important to him than the homeless man's wellbeing
I realized Gi-Hun became just like the Front Man. Metaphorically. In the Season 2 finale, Gi-Hun had no problem letting innocent people die ignorant of his plan in the night fight. Just like the Front Man has no problem killing people and sacrificing his guards. The Salesman was right all along.
You got it wrong He did it so that after this time none should come and play this game. And that's why he chose to sacrifice some lifes to stop the game forever. If he doesn't do this , there will be another season of squid and another 455 people will die So chronologically he did everything to save people And either way in this season also , some people must die Because if he didn't do it, there would be game 4 .
Why he didn't attend the first game? If you look at the list of players displayed on the floor in the control room during the first game, you will see player 001 is registered and not eliminated.
@@bossmen6665It was to ensure some more safety. There were still 455 other players so no one would’ve noticed hes gone yet. Then he starts participating after.
@bossmen6665 remember he entered the games to counter Gi Hun's attempt to shut it down. In the first game, he might not have known Gi Hun's intentions and thought he was just there for money again.
Frontman: Do you want to join Squid Game again? No problem, but I'll join the Squid Game with you, because why not, it's better to pay attention to you, and we'll go to the game place together
Gi-Hun seriously had a martyr complex that the game makers saw through so easily. The key giveaway being his desire to return to a game amongst players who purposely have no problem bending socially accepted ideologies
Front man is a great villain, because he believes that he is good in his own story. He believes that he is helping these people, changing their lifes with the money. A lot of them have to die, but that's necessary to entertain the rich, who provide the money to change lives of the poor. These poor people are dead to front man anyway, and that's why the concept of free will is so important to them, you take part in the game if You would rather die than not have the money. Front-man wants them to win, to get the money and have better lives, dying is just something that needs to happen, so that the VIPs fund the game.
He may become the host of another game. Perhaps Squid Games will end but the cycle won’t stop. Or he’s gonna lose all faith in humanity once he realizes that Squid Game is a global, worldwide phenomenon (if that’s the case)
@@ScrunggeI mean…. Would it make a difference? Sure, the Police would have somewhat-believed them and even if they sent a team finding the islands it would still be the same since the “professionals” gi-hun hired are the same as them. Also Im pretty sure the Police would have just started calling it a prank worst case scenario so yeah…
I'd like to think that they'll eventually make Gi Hun the next Frontman. Like putting a virus on him until he no longer able fight back to resist, and eventually broke him to the point there's no hope or meaning. Until they'll mend him to their system to become apart of their organization. Just like the new frontman who was also the former winner. You either die as a hero or live long enough as a villain.
And this is where the REAL game of season 2 began. "But they still chose the red pill to play the heroes. Do you also think you're a hero who can save the world?" It began here, and it ends with the failed insurrection. "Player 456, did you have fun playing hero? Look closely, at the consequences of your little hero game."
Wait. So he goes back to the games to stop them knowing that he could end up playing a game where he dies? What if he’s among the first to play the glass game if they repeat that. He’d likely die. This is incredibly stupid.
what was front man plan if gi hun said different thing for example he want to see is face and thank him we all know the front man respect gi hun because he won the game like he did so they both in squid game hall of fame
It's like the worse version of hunger games, like you don't simply go back unless you are forced to because they just make it 10 times harder for you and they don't want any leaks out lol
Gihun tbh kinda hypocrite... He hates squid games because playing with people lives but he himself with those lots of money never tried to make more money to help the society in needs
I am sure he is just living with the guilt and trauma of earning that money through watching people die, and he can't feel a way to purify it in anyway by donating it to a charity, especially when the games are still going.
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Gi-Hun thought he was 2 steps ahead. But in reality, the Game makers were actually 10 steps ahead.
How did Jun-Ho snuck into the transportation ship to the island undetected in the first season and almost speedran the whole progress of the show by “working” behind the scenes then? Care to explain that?
They only succeeded because they wanted to definitely make sure that they weren’t followed this time, hence why bringing alongside with the Front Man for his high intellectual strategy and take away Gi-Hun’s hidden tooth tracker
And they dont even need Joker to philosofied them with his villain quotes
Gi-Hun is playing checkers and the Front Man is playing 4D Chess
He actually was ahead, but the reason they found the tracker was because of the double agent boat guy
The captain most certainly gave the frontman information of the plan rundown. Without him, they would’ve gotten in no right here
0:45 Gi Hun still doesn’t realize it lol. Oh il-nam won by even getting him to play that game. What he was doing was getting Gi Hun to bet on someone’s life, just like the vips were doing. Sure its not to the same extent but, though Oh il-nam lost the 7th game, he showed Gi Hun exactly why he started the squid games and proved he was no better.
He don't remember that the old man (almost) won their marble game and have 19
He didn't win or ''prove'' anything, the only reason Gi-hun accepted to do that bet was because Il-nam would not tell him about the reason he created the games otherwise, did yall even watch the scene? 🤦♀ Yall keep saying the same shit that just by accepting to play that last game he ''proved that he was no better/different'' when at the beginning we literally see him not even listening and ready to kill Il-nam - if Il-nam hadn't baited him with the exchange of giving him the explanation behind the games, then Gi-hun would've either probably killed him or just walk off, it's not like he could literally force the explanation out of him so he basically had no choice 🙄😑 and no you can't say that that's exactly why it shows that he's exactly the same because betting on someone's life for some sick twisted idea of entertainment, versus doing it because you're practically being taunted with vital information is very different - all Gi-hun wanted was closure and Il-nam knew that so he was just toying with him again just like he was doing throughout the entirety of the games. So no, accepting to play that last game does not prove that he's the same at all and Il-nam's explanation doesn't make sense either because like I said, he practically had to force Gi-hun to play.
wrong.
1. gi hun does not sponsor the drunkard's death, the rich sponsor the deaths of the squid game players.
2. gi hun bets so that il nam explains his motivation,
3. gi hun bets in the name of altruism and hope. the rich bets because they have nothing better to do and think the lives of poor people are worthless.
consequentialist or not, the nature of gi hun's bet is different to that of the rich. what's worse, this is evidently the intent of the director: the scene is to show that gi hun is no longer just a passive survivor, but a willing fighter firmly standing against the cynicism used to justify the game. but you've watched one too many video essays on how vince gilligan manipulated people into rooting for walter white that you think any analysis that anticipates some kind of subvertation with regards to the protagonist's morality is insightful.
Oh yeah dude gi hun is NO better. It's as black and white as that. Good job
@@shum8104 Still, the homeless man was suffering while Gi-hun was betting on him. His motives were different to the VIP's, sure, but at that moment playing the game with Il Nam became more important to him than the homeless man's wellbeing
I realized Gi-Hun became just like the Front Man. Metaphorically. In the Season 2 finale, Gi-Hun had no problem letting innocent people die ignorant of his plan in the night fight. Just like the Front Man has no problem killing people and sacrificing his guards. The Salesman was right all along.
Shut up
You got it wrong
He did it so that after this time none should come and play this game.
And that's why he chose to sacrifice some lifes to stop the game forever.
If he doesn't do this , there will be another season of squid and another 455 people will die
So chronologically he did everything to save people
And either way in this season also , some people must die
Because if he didn't do it, there would be game 4 .
@@enamsajidkhan4653 except that the games will most likely continue
The difference is Gi-Hun isn't trying to kill people, whereas the Front Man is trying to find accuses to continue his twisted game.
@@enamsajidkhan4653still he had to compromise his morality thats a sign
Gi-Hun thought he intimidated the Front Man. But Front Man was just putting on an act.
Gi-hun: put me back in the games
Front man voice from pig: NO
rolls credits
@@tylermcclain5332lmao you just made me laugh thx ❤
Front Man: You want to be back in the Squid Game? So do I.
Why he didn't attend the first game? If you look at the list of players displayed on the floor in the control room during the first game, you will see player 001 is registered and not eliminated.
@@bossmen6665It was to ensure some more safety. There were still 455 other players so no one would’ve noticed hes gone yet. Then he starts participating after.
@@bossmen6665bro got scared. He can't even spin a top lmao
why did you comment thrice
@bossmen6665 remember he entered the games to counter Gi Hun's attempt to shut it down. In the first game, he might not have known Gi Hun's intentions and thought he was just there for money again.
The Frontman wasn't really hesitating at this, he was just confused on Gi-Hun's random mind to get back into the games
evidently he did not expect this move from gi hun.
Frontman: Do you want to join Squid Game again? No problem, but I'll join the Squid Game with you, because why not, it's better to pay attention to you, and we'll go to the game place together
There are dictators a bit worse than me, no? I'm the lesser evil already
-Alexander Lukashenko
Frontman was like: you're going back into the games? Me too
Gi-Hun seriously had a martyr complex that the game makers saw through so easily. The key giveaway being his desire to return to a game amongst players who purposely have no problem bending socially accepted ideologies
This scene is underrated, the matrix reference, and also the final line "Player 456, welcome back to the game" 🔥🥶
2:30 this is like "WELCOME BACK MR ANDERSON" from the matrix moment
Front man is a great villain, because he believes that he is good in his own story. He believes that he is helping these people, changing their lifes with the money. A lot of them have to die, but that's necessary to entertain the rich, who provide the money to change lives of the poor. These poor people are dead to front man anyway, and that's why the concept of free will is so important to them, you take part in the game if You would rather die than not have the money. Front-man wants them to win, to get the money and have better lives, dying is just something that needs to happen, so that the VIPs fund the game.
i dont think he believes that. He was in their shoes once. I think he just wants to cleanse the world
Jun ho will not stand for it
that Gi Hun guy will become the new front man at the end
He's gonna kill the front man, but then he's gonna put on the mask
As cool as that sounds it would be completely out of character to do something like that and would make Gi-hun a hypocrite
@@tylermcclain5332 He just got his last bits of hope annihilated, and his sanity just got obliterated after seeing his friend die like that
@tylermcclain5332 i think he will but will change his mind cause remember he's not that kind of person
He may become the host of another game. Perhaps Squid Games will end but the cycle won’t stop. Or he’s gonna lose all faith in humanity once he realizes that Squid Game is a global, worldwide phenomenon (if that’s the case)
Frontman has impenetrable plot armor like Thanos no pun intended
Gi hun is leaning towards becoming the villain
he will be the next frontman. I think thats why the frontman "pretended" to be so close with him. He really saw his own version in him
Gi-Hun came back not as a player but a Challenger and rule breaker sheeeesh
Welcome Back
So where were they going to bring gi-hun if he didn't ask to be brought back in the games?
I never understood. The cop was listening in, so couldn't he have shown the recording to the police?
Nobody believed the cop. Everyone dismissed him so even the higherups might be bribed
he was alwready thrown out and basically seen as crazy. But i see your point
Cops are probably in on it / paid off
Too bad the boat captain knew about the chip or whoever ratted gi hun out, but then again, they must've been very thorough
Couldn't the cop who was listening in (forgot his name) have just given the recording to the police?
@@ScrunggeI mean…. Would it make a difference? Sure, the Police would have somewhat-believed them and even if they sent a team finding the islands it would still be the same since the “professionals” gi-hun hired are the same as them. Also Im pretty sure the Police would have just started calling it a prank worst case scenario so yeah…
I'd like to think that they'll eventually make Gi Hun the next Frontman.
Like putting a virus on him until he no longer able fight back to resist, and eventually broke him to the point there's no hope or meaning.
Until they'll mend him to their system to become apart of their organization. Just like the new frontman who was also the former winner.
You either die as a hero or live long enough as a villain.
Was 001 former winner ? Before the events of season 1
He was the winner of squid game 2015 and eventually became the frontman @@heyyou5128
Yep @@heyyou5128
@heyyou5128 Yes, the story support this and his lore.
Knowing his the Main Character I bet the S3 is about Front Man's past a Hero becoming a Villain and Go Hun Stating to be a broken Hero.
And this is where the REAL game of season 2 began. "But they still chose the red pill to play the heroes. Do you also think you're a hero who can save the world?"
It began here, and it ends with the failed insurrection.
"Player 456, did you have fun playing hero? Look closely, at the consequences of your little hero game."
Gi-Hun: I want to go back into the game
Front Man: To earn more money, right?
Gi-Hun: Says nothing
Front Man: To earn more money, right?
Wait. So he goes back to the games to stop them knowing that he could end up playing a game where he dies? What if he’s among the first to play the glass game if they repeat that. He’d likely die. This is incredibly stupid.
He insured it. He had a GPS with him in case he died, so the police could find him.
@@BaronMartinthe problem is if he die he will be burn along with his teeth
THE DIRECTOR OF THE MOVIE WONT LET THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT IS NOT PART OF THE SCRIPT SO WHY WORRY? ARE YOU STUPID?
@@therockforlife2023 what are you talking about...
@therockforlife2023 While you're correct, you're that type of person who is super lame to have a discussion with regarding show or video game plot.
what was front man plan if gi hun said different thing for example he want to see is face and thank him we all know the front man respect gi hun because he won the game like he did so they both in squid game hall of fame
so the Frontman escort 456 by himself
2:37 He isnt seems Il Young... you can see many dark things of black color... but the hair of that front man is light and like to not be hair...
You type like you’re 8 years old. Can you type properly?
Your grammar sucks
2/3 people in that limo joined the games
It's like the worse version of hunger games, like you don't simply go back unless you are forced to because they just make it 10 times harder for you and they don't want any leaks out lol
Front Man Villain Boss of Squid Game
Matrix Meme Reference
Gihun tbh kinda hypocrite... He hates squid games because playing with people lives but he himself with those lots of money never tried to make more money to help the society in needs
I am sure he is just living with the guilt and trauma of earning that money through watching people die, and he can't feel a way to purify it in anyway by donating it to a charity, especially when the games are still going.
GI-Hun: i want back in the game
Front man: Me too. tryna run squads?