Liu Bang and the Banquet at Hong Gate - Han Dynasty Origin 2

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  • @CoolHistoryBros
    @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Is there a more inspirational superpower than being completely shameless?

    • @manuelyausaz2976
      @manuelyausaz2976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I mean... its a very underated superpower but extremely effective

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is a quality everyone can develop too.

    • @GilangRabbani
      @GilangRabbani 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      China's greatest heroes always win their battle through the ability of shamelessness

    • @charlestonho6733
      @charlestonho6733 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you watch TVB the Conquerer story?

  • @付宽-x2q
    @付宽-x2q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Xiang Yu: "What's your superpower again?"
    Liu Bang: "I'm shameless."

  • @emmapinn5216
    @emmapinn5216 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Your content is phenomenal. You should try to sell it to schools or something. It's entertaining, humorous and hard to stop listening

  • @youtuub
    @youtuub 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    glad he has a very skillful and smart uncle.

  • @Omar_ayach
    @Omar_ayach 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Damn though, killing all of those POWs was brutal

    • @nhienleminhhue6605
      @nhienleminhhue6605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Killing that many is brutal. But killing POWs isn't uncommon at all. But still, forcing those human to work repaire infastructure and starve to death is way more benifitial. Killing them is a waste of free human resources

    • @bkjeong4302
      @bkjeong4302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And that was why so few people were willing to side with him. Being genocidal doesn’t make you friends.

  • @manuelyausaz2976
    @manuelyausaz2976 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Daaamn... im officially hooked... i mean i could look the info on wikipedia but it wouldnt have the same effect... im really looking forward to see what happens next 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @hkpuipui99
    @hkpuipui99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As someone who grew up in Hong Kong, I've heard about Hong Mun Yin (Cantonese :D) a thousand times. Never had I seen quite this direct and modern interpretation that's accurate yet so entertaining. Bravo!

  • @erikrungemadsen2081
    @erikrungemadsen2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    The Chinese embassies to Toyotomi Hideyoshi durring the Imjin war must also have been pretty akward especially the last one.

    • @shanedoesyoutube8001
      @shanedoesyoutube8001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      When *exactly???* And what went down???

    • @erikrungemadsen2081
      @erikrungemadsen2081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@shanedoesyoutube8001 Oh boy, a lot of shit happened diplomatically durring the Imjin war. But for allmost a decade diplomatic communication between Japan, Korea and China was, let us call it unreliable, basically diplomats and messengers would change the letters they where carrying, to make them more digestible for the reciepient, also translators would also Lie about the letters contest to avoid insulting their own leaders. (Toyotomi had a bad case of decapitate the messengers syndrome.)
      Problem was Toyotomis letters to Korea and China consisted mostly of threats like “surrender or die.” And what the Chinese and Korea thought was insane demands, he demanded a marriage alliance between Japan and China, that China opened all ports to Japanese trade, the southern half of Korea, and that Korea sent a prince as a hostage to Japan.
      The Chinese decided to allow Toyotomi to become a vasal King of the Chinese emperor and be allowed to send tribute to the emperor.
      And imperial mission was sent out to crown Toyotomi as a vasal king. When the mission arrived and crowned Toyotomi with the crown, robe, and seal of a Chinese vasal king. Toyotomi thought he was recieving tribute from the Chinese emperor, He walked around in the crown and robe for and entire day, celebrating like and idiot, until a buddhist monk honestly translated the Chinese written decreas to their new vasal ordering him “to cheerfully obey the orders of the Chinese emperor.”
      Toyotomi Hideoshis response was to launch the second invasion of Korea, a genocidal campaign meant to avenge the insults done to him by China and Korea.

  • @alexv3357
    @alexv3357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Really loving these dynastic histories, definitely worth a sub

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the movie about this, last supper made in 2012 for anyone interested. The eclectic timeline isnt a problem after watching these great mini docos.

  • @qus.9617
    @qus.9617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Interesting that when Liu Bang lost support, his staff left him. So unlike the later sixteen kingdoms period, the northern and southern dynasties, the five dynasties and ten kingdoms where generals would attempt coups and succeed resulting in many short-lived dynasties.
    It seems like the prestige and centuries old legitimacy of the states of China was an influential reason for that unlike the lawless dog-eat-dog world of later periods?
    He was very lucky to have Han Xin leave Xiang Yu and to have Zhang Liang come back to serve him. Is it just me, or is there a lot of similarities between Liu Bang and Liu Bei (novel), the only difference being the way in which Liu Bei's actions were presented in a more favourable light.
    Do you think that Liu Bang's actions was very influential blueprint for later Chinese emperors on how low they could stoop to in order to survive and win? If Xiang Yu had prevailed, do you think emperors of later ages would be more honor bound and martial in their conduct??

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Liu Bei certainly tried to emulate Liu Bang to a heavy degree and I'd say that Zhuge Liang was his PR manager / brand director. His plan to place Liu Bei at the Ba/Shu and Hanzhong region was an attempt to relive Liu Bang' climb back to power.
      Liu Bei's strongest asset was his "Brand" as a descendant of the Han and its loyalist. So I think Zhuge was really leaning on this side of Liu Bei.
      Actually, most of the rebellions by the regional kings happened after Liu Bang became emperor and the difference here was that Liu Bang was cunning enough to nip all potential rebels in the bud before they became too powerful.

    • @qus.9617
      @qus.9617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@CoolHistoryBros You're right. Liu Bang also reminds me of Toyotomi and Yohannes. But both Yohannes and Toyotomi directed their vassals or kings towards foreign conquest instead of inward fighting.

  • @Kpop.EDITZZbyme
    @Kpop.EDITZZbyme 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What liu bang did do capture the capital is same what liu bei did when capturing jin province,such backhanded tactics

  • @anthony3082
    @anthony3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why am I so invested in this? LOL

  • @pradyumn2692
    @pradyumn2692 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Liu Bang irl seems to be more similar to Cao Cao as compared to Liu Bei.

  • @DungeonerHarold
    @DungeonerHarold 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a cliff hanger!

  • @kathykaixinsong524
    @kathykaixinsong524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for putting so much effort into these amazing videos. I'm ABC trying to learn more Chinese history (I also did my bachelors and will do my masters in China studies), this is exactly the content that I need. I love your humor (its so cute!) Please keep up the great work, I look forward to binge watching your videos this summer vacation =)

  • @kweassa6204
    @kweassa6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Xiao He types command: "SHOW ME THE MONEY"

  • @Alusnovalotus
    @Alusnovalotus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:55
    Isn’t this very similar to what happened with Liu bei and Zhang fei/ Guan yu?/ Zhuge liang?

  • @xfool
    @xfool 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Xiang Yu charm stats must be like super low that hes unable to attract talented ppl to serve him

  • @ayaannadeem25
    @ayaannadeem25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    fan kuai is zhang fei during liu bangs time

  • @irfaanrahim4523
    @irfaanrahim4523 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really enjoyed the scene portrayed by Chen Daoming in King's War

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's a legend. Love his work.

    • @NguyeninhCanh
      @NguyeninhCanh ปีที่แล้ว

      He was also casting Qin Shi Huang and Goujian of Yue

  • @Stillinprocess
    @Stillinprocess ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s the difference between Han and Haan it’s spell in a different way or how does it work

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In pinyin Haan is Han in the third tone. Sometimes it is difficult to differentiate Hăn and Hàn for those who are not familiar with pinyin, so Haan is sometimes used as a solution for this.

  • @Savuyar
    @Savuyar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was wondering about the way you pronounce 'Zhou,' as in 'Zhou dynasty' in your videos. I've most often heard it pronounced as Zhōu (pinyin), similarly to 'Joe'. The way you say it is more like 'zōu,' that is 'tsou'. Is there a reason for that? Thanks for making these great videos!

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks R. Syre. Actually, that's how Zhou is supposed to be said in Mandarin.
      By the way, here is an easy trick for non-mandarin speakers to know how the dynasty names are pronounced:
      1. Copy the Chinese character (from your info page, wikipedia, etc.)
      2. Paste it into google translate and press the speaker button to have it say the word. translate.google.com/

    • @ZhangK71
      @ZhangK71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re right, it is more like “joe” and not “zo”. Some Chinese people, especially of Southern descent, have trouble pronouncing the Northern-influenced English-equivalent “j” sound present in Mandarin. Funny thing is, this happens to many Chinese Americans I know, who can pronounce English words like “job” or “joke” just fine, but call it the “Zou Dynasty” 😆

  • @caocao4731
    @caocao4731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Question- Was King Huai actually "Emperor," or was he just a "Ba Wang?" I had always been under the impression that the anti-Qin rebels were more interested in re-establishing their own states, cultures, and royal families rather than continuing as part of any single nation. It's always been confusing just how much any of them actually wanted to maintain the Qin Centralization.

    • @CoolHistoryBros
      @CoolHistoryBros  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He received the title "Emperor Yi". But he was just an emperor in name only.

    • @caocao4731
      @caocao4731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CoolHistoryBros So more just to have a rank to match Qin and add legitimacy. Got it, cheers!

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caocao4731 I am wondering if it's not so much to match Qin but "set the clock back" as it were to Spring and Autumn with the the Chu Empire, with Chu being the cultural milestone and negotiator between states as the Zhou Emperors tended to be (in theory).

  • @x0lopossum
    @x0lopossum ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:50 hmmmmm 🤔

  • @pandemonium7617
    @pandemonium7617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this! Can't wait for More. Oh and Happy dare day! :d

  • @CAP198462
    @CAP198462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk, the mongols allegedly had some awkward dinner parties/ executions.

  • @nieqh
    @nieqh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Liu bang liu BEI were the same....but Liu bang was more scandalous

  • @DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ
    @DragonSlayerCommentariesHQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Liu bang is the ancient version of a ninja looter. Xian yu has DKP dibs on Xianyang and this shameless dude stole it.

  • @mokanaman
    @mokanaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ha, first!

  • @aatrocy8138
    @aatrocy8138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    channel really looks awesome - sadly it has no subtitles for the deafs :c

  • @ZhangK71
    @ZhangK71 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Basically a failed Red Wedding 😆

  • @moosegoose1282
    @moosegoose1282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lmfao

  • @foggyautumn9587
    @foggyautumn9587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why cant you speak in a normal voice, instead of this somewhat accentuated tone ? The way you are narating distracts the listeners from listening to the stories you are telling.

    • @SaretGnasoh
      @SaretGnasoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's his normal voice dooh 🙄

    • @silvermihawk5309
      @silvermihawk5309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What u mean distracting? If anything its make it more enjoyable to watch

    • @lloydlim1055
      @lloydlim1055 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      BC that's his accents and he hasn't learn how to adapt to a more English accent?

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dude, the fuck ? You do realise what an accent is ??

  • @RANDOMPROJECTS-zo7ne
    @RANDOMPROJECTS-zo7ne ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic narration and animation!🫵😃
    And I don't think the video would have popped as well without your accent!
    (It's perfect!) 👌😄😚😎x3