I love the engine sound of my Tiger800, actually I decided to buy one when I first test ride it and heard the unique sound. Only con for me was wind screen, I replaced it with a Kappa Air-Flow ; riding the perfect bike since then.
I ride a Tiger 955i with the same problems you described and I am surprised that Triumph didn't fix this with the new models. I am 1,85+ too and the riding position was not good at all. I modified the seat 3cm higher and harder foam, raised the handlebar and this is really good for me now. For the crappy windshield I am still looking for a solution, 10cm higher and the noise and buffering was even worse and started at 80kph instead of 120. Best solution until now ist the low race shield. Anyway, a great, practical and honest review of a nice bike. Thank you for your work and i will follow your channel. Absolutely worth it. Best regards from Saarland from another "not native english speaker".
The easiest way to fix your issues with an XRt is to get an XCa. We all have to customize any bike we get to one degree or another. I put Rox Risers on to correct the standing issue. I put a Givi sceen on to fix the wind at highway speeds. The engine noise is annoying at best I will agree. I put a LeoVince pipe on to cover the sound a bit and lower the weight. The engine is simply perfect otherwise. I have gone from a KLR to a XR-L to a 1200 Tiger to my 800 Tiger XCa. Simply the best overall bike I've ever owned. I have friends with all the other bikes you've reviewed...all but the guy on the KTM wishes they had mine. Keep up the good work...Cheers.
how did you deal with cables for the grips and seats switches after installing rox risers? with two inch risers, mine seem to be half an inch too short on full lock on both sides
IMHO Triumph Tiger is the best motorcycle in his segment. I ride one of this wonderful machines it takes 7 years, and no other brand comes close when you catch a twisty road!
A very honest and great review and as you said different people different viewpoints, had to laugh about your view on how it sounds as I always thought it sounded like a sowing machine. Great review and video thanks.
I used to own a '87 BMW K75S and really liked the whine of the engine. Now, I have a '13 Triumph Tiger Roadie and really like not only the sound of this engine makes, but the power as well. So much more than my K75S. To each his own they say... This one suits me well.
Good honest review. I bought a XCX model this fall and the engine sound is the only thing I don't like. The XCX is several inches taller than the XR models, and I had to put the seat at the low setting so I could reach the ground. After riding 1700 miles, I found the seat very comfortable, so I am surprised you did not like it. I think I will raise the handle bar 3 cm for a little better fit. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
hi pavlin, i absolutely agree in every word you say.and i like your honest way to tell your opinions.go on like this.your test was helping me a lot.keep the rubber on the ground ;-))
really enjoy your videos. ive owned an xrt for two years now and done 24k miles. totally agree the screen is crap. replaced mine with one from a tiger 1200, fitted bigger pegs and bar risers so the ergomonics are now perfect for me. my only complaint are the front forks. utter shit so thats a job for the future. . if we all liked the same bike then it would be a very boring world. keep up the good work pavlin
Triple engines don't have the best sound when you pull the gas at a stop, but it gets crazy good when you start pushing it to higher revs while riding. It has a very specific sporty roar that's deeper than a 4 cylinder but lighter than a twin.
Re the sound: Aside from changing the stock exhaust, I'd suggest opening it up more, it seemed you never took it over 6k on the ride. Above 6k it sounds very different and so much better. The bike really comes alive between 7-9k.
Hello Pavlin and thanksfor your great channel! I would like to ask for a video where you explain the correct position on a adventure motorbike. That would be really good for beginners like me, thank you!
I have a 2011 Tiger the best bike I have ever had ! 100% reliable, the engine is great , very flexible, the reason it has the slight while is it has balance shafts to eliminate vibration, try a Ducati or BMW and you will see it is so great not to have the bad vibes.
Good test, as always. But you should test the xCx or xCa version. In xRt the R stands for road and in the xCx version the C stands for country. So i think that it's more what you expect of an adventure bike. it has a bigger frontwheel and becaus of that another, higher sitting position. ... and many other improvements also for traveling in the wilderness. ;-)
I think that the rear shock is adjustable on the lower right side. I have Triumph 800 only older 2011 and the shock is adjustable and its easily overlooked becouse there is no knob:)) Thanky for review. Love the chanel.
Great comparison to wife at the end of movie ;) I tested XRX, but with exhaust made in Poland (150Eur), that changes it from mixer to motorbike. Not for offroad at all. Pavlin, I hope you will test first new Tenere in Europe, so we all can decide -AT or T7. I'm collecting money for one of them ;) Tomasz
Next time you go for XCA, this is made for adventure riding (I know you figured this out by your own 😁). Also go for the 2018 Model, they have done 200 modification‘s to meet „your“ needs ✅. The bike became „Alpenmaster 2018“. The only missing thing is „DCT“ from Honda 😂😂😂. Fuel consumption is around 4 Liter if you are not speeding, same like GS800, that means you can cover distances up to 500 km with eas. I don’t agree with your opinion about the brakes, they are absolutely weak for a bike that can go that fast (even in the XCA 2018 version) If you want to compare it with your wife, I agree, it is absolutely reliable, always there to serve you 🍀, and you will find it around the world, same like GS or Africa Twin, since this layout came up they sold a bike every hour, even on weekends and holidays 💫 But as you recommend all the time, weight always meters, and there are much lighter options like CCM and many others, but consider, most of them are less reliable and don’t have „cruise control“ which can relax your body on long riding day’s and also can save you a lot of money because of not speeding accidentally 😇 ( it is also available in India 😂)
Interesting review. I think engine noise is like listening to music - a personnel thing. There is something for everyone. No right or wrong answers, just choice. Like wife? The smaller dimensions would suit me too but again we are all different. For a road tour I like this bike although with panniers it looks very wide. Globe busters now use this bike instead of BMW so I guess it must be good but for me too much electronics again for when things get dirty and tough. One or two cylinders in a simple format for me please. Happy travels
Those mufflers should be lower for a touring bike like on the NC . I find a lot of triumph bikes have whiney engines.. Also I ride in weather down to minus 8 ..a heated seat would be the last area I would need warming ! Good honest review thankyou..
There is no change at all with different mufflers. The whistling will stay! It doesent matter what exhaust you use. This f... noise killed my nerves! I tried it. The thing is, once it anoyed you it will always do so! Even it has moved a little bit to the background!
This anoying whistling comes from the streight nothed primary drive I dont know why it appears quite often from three zylinder engines like the old K75 (BMW). But its a pain the ass! I sold my Tiger beacause of that.
thanks for the video i am 1 . 72 meters so it should be a good size for me im going to look at the xc version this week i think a different exhaust is need ed though
finally comes my bike :-P. washing mashine ...lol i exactly love this whistling sound its the special sound of all the triple zylinders from triumph. either you love or you hate this sound. but in my first testride i was just as skeptical about the sound and now iam addicted to it ^^. iam 1.70m and i ride this bike 8h in a row without pain in my ass for me its the perfect allround bike. 10% offroad and 90% country roads for this is that bike maded, also the xca version that i have.
its a good and a honest review from you and iam not afraid about it. iam a fan of your channel :), but if you have buyed a bike you have normaly an other view to it and will defend it a little bit .
I have never seen the V-Strom 1000 cross shopped w the GS 800 nor this bike, the TT 800. YET, I ended up buying the Suzuki anyway. While it is NOT the best AdvTour Bike on the market, it definitely isn't bad.... Would love to see your comments, can you review that one?
I know this is an older video. But just imagine that noise after 10.000 km...awful. This can really demotivate. And something like that is dangerous IMO. Just imagine you dropped your bike and think "Well...that's a chance to get rid of her. Just pretend you can't lift her - now let her die." This machine has the voice of my mother-in-law.
Well, good review but makes the tiger more terrible for me, 3 cylinders! I believe this makes more wait. Yes agree with you that mixer noise is like one is whistling in your ear, I imagine how will be my head after a long journey on it L For 12000 euro, Africa still the queen ;-) Thank you Pavlin,
I test rode one of these the XTX 2017 and was very unimpressed with the power delivery and overall feel of the ride and was uncomfortable. It felt like a fake adventure bike for posers and my gut feeling said no. I then tried the Bmw f800GSA 2014 and fell in love straight away. Each to there own, i advise before buying one you try other bikes ;)
What a hassle about the sound... In the first place it's a matter of taste; it doesn't annoy me at all. In the second place; if you rev'it up above 3500-4000 rpm the whistle disappears and changes into a beautiful and agressive howl! In the third place: I have severe tinnitus myself which causes a permanent beep in my ears. Now some people with tinnitus get depressed or suicidal because of this sound. Me not at all! It's just a matter of not paying attention too much and think of something else. Just accept it and it's no problem :-).
Good Honest review mate - Thank you.I agree - good every day motorcycle - but the engine NOISE IS HORRIBLE. It does Not sound like a motorcycle at all. More like an electric egg mixer, or a cheap washing machine just as you said. Exactly. I think Triumph manufacturers are death. 😂😂😂
I have a 800 tiger which is used for commuting to London every day it is without doubt the most unreliable pile of dog doo I have ever ridden, gear linkgage broke twice, clutch twice,electric problems utter rubbish
I think too big accent on dashboard. Me I dont care....I watch the road ahead not the screen. Too many buttons, functions......is this a motorcycle? Fuel consumption....who cares?
I love the engine sound of my Tiger800, actually I decided to buy one when I first test ride it and heard the unique sound. Only con for me was wind screen, I replaced it with a Kappa Air-Flow ; riding the perfect bike since then.
I like the sound too.. I think its cool.
Pavlin, You made very competent channel. Nice to watch everything what you recorded. Regards from Poland!
I am glad you like it! Ride safe!
I ride a Tiger 955i with the same problems you described and I am surprised that Triumph didn't fix this with the new models. I am 1,85+ too and the riding position was not good at all. I modified the seat 3cm higher and harder foam, raised the handlebar and this is really good for me now. For the crappy windshield I am still looking for a solution, 10cm higher and the noise and buffering was even worse and started at 80kph instead of 120. Best solution until now ist the low race shield.
Anyway, a great, practical and honest review of a nice bike. Thank you for your work and i will follow your channel. Absolutely worth it. Best regards from Saarland from another "not native english speaker".
Thanks man!
Honest , proper opinion. Thank you !
The easiest way to fix your issues with an XRt is to get an XCa. We all have to customize any bike we get to one degree or another. I put Rox Risers on to correct the standing issue. I put a Givi sceen on to fix the wind at highway speeds. The engine noise is annoying at best I will agree. I put a LeoVince pipe on to cover the sound a bit and lower the weight. The engine is simply perfect otherwise. I have gone from a KLR to a XR-L to a 1200 Tiger to my 800 Tiger XCa. Simply the best overall bike I've ever owned. I have friends with all the other bikes you've reviewed...all but the guy on the KTM wishes they had mine. Keep up the good work...Cheers.
how did you deal with cables for the grips and seats switches after installing rox risers? with two inch risers, mine seem to be half an inch too short on full lock on both sides
76CzarekP you must get custom length cables or extensions
I like about your reviews that you are honest and also say some negative.....professional reviewers only praise and aplaude
This is the way I believe should be - only honest reviews, but...
IMHO Triumph Tiger is the best motorcycle in his segment. I ride one of this wonderful machines it takes 7 years, and no other brand comes close when you catch a twisty road!
A very honest and great review and as you said different people different viewpoints, had to laugh about your view on how it sounds as I always thought it sounded like a sowing machine. Great review and video thanks.
I really like that engine sound.
We all have different preferences...
you have strange preferences man. . .
I used to own a '87 BMW K75S and really liked the whine of the engine. Now, I have a '13 Triumph Tiger Roadie and really like not only the sound of this engine makes, but the power as well. So much more than my K75S. To each his own they say... This one suits me well.
Great, than enjoy it!
its a great bike , i tested one and it was an amazing ride
Good honest review. I bought a XCX model this fall and the engine sound is the only thing I don't like. The XCX is several inches taller than the XR models, and I had to put the seat at the low setting so I could reach the ground. After riding 1700 miles, I found the seat very comfortable, so I am surprised you did not like it. I think I will raise the handle bar 3 cm for a little better fit. Thanks, and keep up the good work.
Thanks Tom, happy adventures!
Not liking the sound means you are not using the throttle appropriately. #stopdrivingitlikeagirl..................
the whistle sound is amazing
Very informative and usefull, like always. Thank you!
That wife comparison killed me lol
hi pavlin, i absolutely agree in every word you say.and i like your honest way to tell your opinions.go on like this.your test was helping me a lot.keep the rubber on the ground ;-))
There is no reason to lie. I said what I felt. Thanks for watching Udo!
A genuine review I think. Thank you
I hope one day you will be able do 800 xc, great videos !!
No need really, is is the same bike with 21 Inch in front ans spoked wheels.
really enjoy your videos. ive owned an xrt for two years now and done 24k miles. totally agree the screen is crap. replaced mine with one from a tiger 1200, fitted bigger pegs and bar risers so the ergomonics are now perfect for me. my only complaint are the front forks. utter shit so thats a job for the future. . if we all liked the same bike then it would be a very boring world. keep up the good work pavlin
Good review Pavlin the whining (noise) of the engine would drive me crazy, but a nice looking bike
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Triple engines don't have the best sound when you pull the gas at a stop, but it gets crazy good when you start pushing it to higher revs while riding. It has a very specific sporty roar that's deeper than a 4 cylinder but lighter than a twin.
Re the sound: Aside from changing the stock exhaust, I'd suggest opening it up more, it seemed you never took it over 6k on the ride. Above 6k it sounds very different and so much better. The bike really comes alive between 7-9k.
Zakkerly. Standing start; nail that Tigre to the redline, through the gears - then you got the music. and the passion
Hello Pavlin and thanksfor your great channel! I would like to ask for a video where you explain the correct position on a adventure motorbike. That would be really good for beginners like me, thank you!
I have a 2011 Tiger the best bike I have ever had ! 100% reliable, the engine is great , very flexible, the reason it has the slight while is it has balance shafts to eliminate vibration, try a Ducati or BMW and you will see it is so great not to have the bad vibes.
As I said in the video, I know that the bike and the engine are great, but it's not my type of bike.
Good test, as always. But you should test the xCx or xCa version. In xRt the R stands for road and in the xCx version the C stands for country. So i think that it's more what you expect of an adventure bike. it has a bigger frontwheel and becaus of that another, higher sitting position. ... and many other improvements also for traveling in the wilderness. ;-)
Yes, I knew that and I wanted to test the XCA version, but they don't have it in the shop. I will do in the future.
I Loled at "Washing Machine"
i rofld
I think that the rear shock is adjustable on the lower right side. I have Triumph 800 only older 2011 and the shock is adjustable and its easily overlooked becouse there is no knob:))
Thanky for review. Love the chanel.
Maybe I miss it. I will check again, thanks for letting me know and ride safe!
Pavlin will you make review of Triumph Tiger 1200 explorer? Thanks. Make chanel support T-shirts :)
Hi Alan, I already did the review. The video is coming now, after few minutes.
Yes, there is a simple adjustment for the rear shock, and for the front shocks there is a more complicated adjustment
what about new vstrom 650 2017? any plans to test it?
I also would love to know your opinion about this DR's great-grandchild
Maybe I will start a new series " Middle weight Adventure bikes"
Motorcycle Adventures That would be good
Great comparison to wife at the end of movie ;)
I tested XRX, but with exhaust made in Poland (150Eur), that changes it from mixer to motorbike.
Not for offroad at all.
Pavlin, I hope you will test first new Tenere in Europe, so we all can decide -AT or T7. I'm collecting money for one of them ;)
Tomasz
Ooo, with pleasure, I am waiting as well for the T7 concept.
washing machine, you man are hilarious :)
What is causing that engine whistle sound? Is it the bearings?
At the wheel this was 81hp vs crf1000l at 87 hp would explain why it seams slower than it should
Next time you go for XCA, this is made for adventure riding (I know you figured this out by your own 😁).
Also go for the 2018 Model, they have done 200 modification‘s to meet „your“ needs ✅.
The bike became „Alpenmaster 2018“. The only missing thing is „DCT“ from Honda 😂😂😂. Fuel consumption is around 4 Liter if you are not speeding, same like GS800, that means you can cover distances up to 500 km with eas.
I don’t agree with your opinion about the brakes, they are absolutely weak for a bike that can go that fast (even in the XCA 2018 version)
If you want to compare it with your wife, I agree, it is absolutely reliable, always there to serve you 🍀, and you will find it around the world, same like GS or Africa Twin, since this layout came up they sold a bike every hour, even on weekends and holidays 💫
But as you recommend all the time, weight always meters, and there are much lighter options like CCM and many others, but consider, most of them are less reliable and don’t have „cruise control“ which can relax your body on long riding day’s and also can save you a lot of money because of not speeding accidentally 😇
( it is also available in India 😂)
I don't like the Triumphs. No matter how great they are, I just don't like it. I prefer simple and useful things.
Interesting review. I think engine noise is like listening to music - a personnel thing. There is something for everyone. No right or wrong answers, just choice. Like wife?
The smaller dimensions would suit me too but again we are all different.
For a road tour I like this bike although with panniers it looks very wide.
Globe busters now use this bike instead of BMW so I guess it must be good but for me too much electronics again for when things get dirty and tough.
One or two cylinders in a simple format for me please.
Happy travels
Yes, you are right, we are all different and want different things.That's why I said that it is not my bike, but it's great bike.
Those mufflers should be lower for a touring bike like on the NC . I find a lot of triumph bikes have whiney engines.. Also I ride in weather down to minus 8 ..a heated seat would be the last area I would need warming ! Good honest review thankyou..
Good points, thanks!
I have to disagree with you...I do like the sound of that engine!...:) I am sure with the right can it would sound just perfect! :)
I will not argue with you. We all like something different, that's why so many brands and models exist. Thanks for watching!
You need a Leo Vince can. One of the best and great value. I have one on mine.
There is no change at all with different mufflers. The whistling will stay! It doesent matter what exhaust you use. This f... noise killed my nerves! I tried it. The thing is, once it anoyed you it will always do so! Even it has moved a little bit to the background!
I can't stand the noise you can hear it a mile off. What the hell makes it ?
This anoying whistling comes from the streight nothed primary drive
I dont know why it appears quite often from three zylinder engines like the old K75 (BMW). But its a pain the ass! I sold my Tiger beacause of that.
"I need at least 10 cm to be better for me". That's what she said.
thanks for the video i am 1 . 72 meters so it should be a good size for me im going to look at the xc version this week i think a different exhaust is need ed though
I wish to be on your place, choosing new bike. Ride safe!
it is not easy for me choosing one the triumph seems the best all round
sounds good to me.
africa twin has similar tank capasity
finally comes my bike :-P. washing mashine ...lol i exactly love this whistling sound its the special sound of all the triple zylinders from triumph. either you love or you hate this sound. but in my first testride i was just as skeptical about the sound and now iam addicted to it ^^. iam 1.70m and i ride this bike 8h in a row without pain in my ass for me its the perfect allround bike. 10% offroad and 90% country roads for this is that bike maded, also the xca version that i have.
As I said there is a bike for every one, you just need to find it. Thank you for watching and ride safe!
its a good and a honest review from you and iam not afraid about it. iam a fan of your channel :), but if you have buyed a bike you have normaly an other view to it and will defend it a little bit .
I have never seen the V-Strom 1000 cross shopped w the GS 800 nor this bike, the TT 800. YET, I ended up buying the Suzuki anyway. While it is NOT the best AdvTour Bike on the market, it definitely isn't bad.... Would love to see your comments, can you review that one?
Hi, I would love to do it as well, but Suzuki dealer in Berlin is not good. They don't have it in the shop. Maybe after month or two was the answer.
I know this is an older video. But just imagine that noise after 10.000 km...awful. This can really demotivate. And something like that is dangerous IMO. Just imagine you dropped your bike and think "Well...that's a chance to get rid of her. Just pretend you can't lift her - now let her die." This machine has the voice of my mother-in-law.
I agree. First of all I need to like the bike and to be practical.
this sound in long trips ... madness
its awful
nice video
It's like a pencil sharpener.
The boiling water tea kettle whistle is not that sexy. But it seems like a nice machine in most other ways.
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Well, good
review but makes the tiger more terrible for me, 3 cylinders! I believe this
makes more wait. Yes agree with you that mixer noise is like one is whistling
in your ear, I imagine how will be my head after a long journey on it L For 12000
euro, Africa still the queen ;-)
Thank you Pavlin,
Yes, the Africa is still the Queen. Thanks for watching again!
I hope your wife doesn't watch this or you'll be in trouble. :) I think you know what I'm referring to. :)))
Yes, I know, thanks for watching!
hahahaahahahah
sounds grt to me.
its better than africa twin if u r not doing too much off roading.
That's not the T, that's the W version. W stands for White-Westinghouse!
so you still buying AT. IN two minds myself between AT and KTM 1090.
the 125ps of the 1090 would be great on the road.
I test rode one of these the XTX 2017 and was very unimpressed with the power delivery and overall feel of the ride and was uncomfortable. It felt like a fake adventure bike for posers and my gut feeling said no. I then tried the Bmw f800GSA 2014 and fell in love straight away. Each to there own, i advise before buying one you try other bikes ;)
What a hassle about the sound... In the first place it's a matter of taste; it doesn't annoy me at all. In the second place; if you rev'it up above 3500-4000 rpm the whistle disappears and changes into a beautiful and agressive howl! In the third place: I have severe tinnitus myself which causes a permanent beep in my ears. Now some people with tinnitus get depressed or suicidal because of this sound. Me not at all! It's just a matter of not paying attention too much and think of something else. Just accept it and it's no problem :-).
If you like it...
Good Honest review mate - Thank you.I agree - good every day motorcycle - but the engine NOISE IS HORRIBLE. It does Not sound like a motorcycle at all. More like an electric egg mixer, or a cheap washing machine just as you said. Exactly. I think Triumph manufacturers are death. 😂😂😂
I don't think that Triumph will die. They have a specific type of clients. As I said, they are great bikes, but not for everyone.
lmao mixer i agree
Funny noise?? That is the magic from a tripple engine not the crap from BMW. The seat is best in class especially if you compare it to a F800GS
Bmw sell a comfort seat. And they want you to buy it
doesnt matter BMW or triumph or honda. if you're riding a lot and want a better seat you're buying an aftermarket one
you've got too many unnecessary complaints..
I have a 800 tiger which is used for commuting to London every day it is without doubt the most unreliable pile of dog doo I have ever ridden, gear linkgage broke twice, clutch twice,electric problems utter rubbish
I think too big accent on dashboard. Me I dont care....I watch the road ahead not the screen. Too many buttons, functions......is this a motorcycle? Fuel consumption....who cares?
Well, some people love it...
wizzzzzzzzzzzzzzz too annoying sound
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Pathetic sound🙉
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