in which sylvester mccoy theorises that the star trek cast doesn't have any hair because the starship enterprise was leaky and also suggests starting a doctor who cult
@@loyalpiperI actually prefer him in Hornblower - We're not meant to know whose side he is on for a while, so that floating voice really sells him as mysterious and unknowable. When I met him last year, I was genuinely surprised to find out that was the original "Sharpe", filmed most of the first film, but the role was recast after he damaged his ankle playing football, with Sean Bean just re-filming close ups - I can't imagine Sharpe with McGann's floaty voice at all now I know Sean Bean's "NORTHERN BASTID!" accent so well. :)
He should have gotten a quick 6 episode mini-series in the run up to the 50th anniversary, ending with him regenerating into The War Doctor. That would have been better than the 5 minute episode he got (which to be fair was good all things considered).
Paul McGann mummering under his breath that he hated the wig is fuckin hilarious cause you can tell he's being serious while Nicholas is over here like "toughen up buttercup"
He wanted the doctor to be like Eccleston and was so pissed off when Eccleston got to do it in a leather jacket with a buzz cut. So he would've been mightily annoyed if he had actually got a series and had to keep wearing the wig til his hair grew out.
@user-et6pj4db9s Apparently Colin Baker pitched the Sixth Doctor as wearing a leather or velvet jacket too. McGann at least got a new look when he did the costume photoshoot for the Dark Eyes audios.
@@Keyboardeater1 well I don't like the leather anyway so I didn't particularly care for the costume change, the character to me should always be in Edwardian/Victorian dress or similar cos that's what at least the first 5 doctors stuck to, Jon Pertwee was as modern as it got with his flared 70s pants and frilled shirts but even he started with a magicians outfit which was older fashioned, then Eccleston came along and ruined it all with a completely unremarkable costume. Smith has been the only modern Doctor to get it right so Mcgann's costume was perfect but his change was during audios anyway so not really applicable as he wasn't on screen.
@@thequietestengine They kind of already did that with the War Doctor whose sposed to be a kind of halfway point between 8 and 9 costume wise, but I didn't like 9s costume at all cos of the leather jacket so I don't really care for any of it. I'm a purist, the theme in the old show was old fashioned outfits so I wanted them to stick to that but they were never going to ofcourse.
He wouldn't have had a million big finish audio series without stopping it because technology like cd players would've become tiny buzz saws to saw off peoples faces.
i lovew that in this video Paul is non existing up until Sylvester mentions him, so it looks liek he truly is not there until Sylvester calls him a better modle 🤣🤣
Interesting McGann calls his mate "McCoy" here when in real life he calls him "Kent". I guess as it's a recorded performance, whereas written interviews are just in print publications.
yeah interesting! I’ve only ever heard paul refer to sylvester as mccoy but I suppose it’s maybe to avoid confusion with fans who don’t know sylv’s real name
This movie is so gorgeous, the cinematography is so good. It's such a shame that it's logistically so hard or the distributors think there's no money in it to remaster the movie in HD from the camera negatives or whatever. They'd probably have to redo plenty of CGI but it's not like a DS9 situation, there's not loads of it Also maybe hopefully the project files are still sitting around somewhere in decent condition and someone can fire up Softimage or something and re-render at least some of it that way
These commentaries bring me so much joy. Consistent banter between cast-members, and beyond character affiliations. I think the "incomprehensible scottish" segment that Sylvester said was something along the lines of "Huh, I didn't know that".
It sounded like "Aye, is that right? How did he know that?" to me. Like "how did you guess? What gave it away?". Just a gentle leg-pulling reminder from Sylvester that, like David Tennant, he's Scottish and is merely adopting an "acting accent" for the purposes of his job. Tennant's accent, though, is so impeccably good. Essentially perfect. That if you don't know and then hear him in his non-acting voice, it's a guaranteed WTF moment. Like when Americans, who're not aware, hear Hugh Laurie speaking normally - not only not American, but actually a very posh English accent - or, similarly, Andrew Lincoln from the Walking Dead (actually, Walking Dead was full of this. David Morrissey. Lauren Cohen's mid-Atlantic accent - it was full of people faking an American accent).
I don't remember any non-alien character in Star Trek wearing a wig except Walter Koenig. They wanted him to look young, cute, and trendy so he had to wear it until his real hair grew out. He said swallows could nest in that wig.
"let's get back in the TARDIS, c'mon" Like the BBC just calls them in when they need commentary, TARDIS materialises, doctors show up and do their bit, then bugger off back inside. Magic
i remember going to a convention back in 2013 and even THEN Paul talked about how much he hated that wig. I remember him saying he wanted to burn it. it was an amazing convention, they had doctors 5-8, nick briggs, john leeson, janet fielding (she was in the panel with peter and they bickered the entire time) and I think one of the costume ladies (i forget her name).
It's a crime Paul hasn't had more on-screen parts as Eight beyond the movie and the 50th special but at least Big Finish gave us an era in audio, and then some.
On the subject of making religions out of sci-fi franchises, Gene Roddenberry actually considered turning Star Trek into a Scientology-esque religion, and mentioned being friends with L. Ron Hubbard.
Not gonna lie, the song in this movie by Pat Hodges made me sob. Not only personally hitting a cord. Also the fact we had so little time initially with both McGann and Ecclestons Doctors. It felt like a dream. It makes me think of the Neil Gaiman Episode "The Doctors' Wife" and (remembering the scanners the TARDIS has) It would make my heart ache at those thoughts that most of the logs with them are stuck in audio. Like Amnesia for a TARDIS.
@@fifthdoctor This commentary is one of a few that I watch a lot, they are just entertaining. I might do one on something like Arc Of Infinity. That has a good commentary.
Watching this shortly before the 60th is absolutely insane. We need Paul back, ngl, he needs his own series some way some how. Sylvester, wonderful as always. (Except the religion remark, keep ya religion outta muh Doctor Who!!!!)
which version of the movie was this? I got one and it didnt have any of the cast in it. (The one with Roberts in gallifrey robes in the center on the cover, from 2001 i think?)
@@fifthdoctor If you can find it, the old DVD commentary of The Five Doctors with Peter Davison and Terrance Dicks is quite funny. "There was a bit of a boom mic shadow on Janet's hair there, can we redo that?" (Brief pause.) "Twenty years, Peter!"
That’s okay! It’s Nick Briggs so yes it’s the dalek voice guy lol he wasn’t actually in the movie in any capacity but I guess they just let him do the commentary
He's the voice of the daleks, but he's also the main guy at Big Finish Productions, so you could say he's basically the showrunner for the 8th Doctor's era. Makes sense why they'd have him there for the movie, considering he's responsible for every other Paul McGann outing as the Doctor for the last 25 years.
nick briggs, who is the voice of the daleks in the modern series, basically runs big finish, and is generally involved in all sorts of doctor who stuff :)
What are you talking about? Briggs has never been the showrunner for Doctor Who. It's not his fault it's gone to crap. He just does the monster voices.
@@elwoodjacobs4353 lol just shows how bad Big Finish is, that even the Nu-hu production team wouldn't condescend to commissioning BF's most well-known "writer". Next to the God-awful voices, Briggs is in all the DVD docs & commentaries & does most interviews. He has got the 2nd most punchable face, next to that fat bald guy, Clayton Hickman.
So Paul just speaks like a goth poetry narrator in normal life, that's not just for Doctor-y drama
i know i'm obsessed with his voice
@@fifthdoctorso if you trick him into reciting some of the Zagreus poem he'll just sound like he's actually reading it to someone lol
He's the exact same in hornblower
I met him a year ago and had a great chat with him for a good 15 minutes - and yes, he sounds like that in real life.
@@loyalpiperI actually prefer him in Hornblower - We're not meant to know whose side he is on for a while, so that floating voice really sells him as mysterious and unknowable.
When I met him last year, I was genuinely surprised to find out that was the original "Sharpe", filmed most of the first film, but the role was recast after he damaged his ankle playing football, with Sean Bean just re-filming close ups - I can't imagine Sharpe with McGann's floaty voice at all now I know Sean Bean's "NORTHERN BASTID!" accent so well. :)
4:09
Paul's completely deadpan "I tried this recently at a department store and got arrested" is the funniest thing ever to me I have no idea why
I think you understand perfectly why
Paul and Sylvester have such good chemistry. Its a crime 8 never got a series
Only on Big Finish audio...
All the Doctors seem to get on quite well whenever they get together.
He should have gotten a quick 6 episode mini-series in the run up to the 50th anniversary, ending with him regenerating into The War Doctor. That would have been better than the 5 minute episode he got (which to be fair was good all things considered).
Paul McGann mummering under his breath that he hated the wig is fuckin hilarious cause you can tell he's being serious while Nicholas is over here like "toughen up buttercup"
bro who is nicholas am I dense
@@FurgusFunguspretty sure he was the director
@@baxtermortimer1550 idk i looked up the production team and could not find him anywhere
The pure venom McGann has in his voice when talking about the wig is intense.
He wanted the doctor to be like Eccleston and was so pissed off when Eccleston got to do it in a leather jacket with a buzz cut. So he would've been mightily annoyed if he had actually got a series and had to keep wearing the wig til his hair grew out.
@user-et6pj4db9s Apparently Colin Baker pitched the Sixth Doctor as wearing a leather or velvet jacket too.
McGann at least got a new look when he did the costume photoshoot for the Dark Eyes audios.
@@Keyboardeater1 well I don't like the leather anyway so I didn't particularly care for the costume change, the character to me should always be in Edwardian/Victorian dress or similar cos that's what at least the first 5 doctors stuck to, Jon Pertwee was as modern as it got with his flared 70s pants and frilled shirts but even he started with a magicians outfit which was older fashioned, then Eccleston came along and ruined it all with a completely unremarkable costume. Smith has been the only modern Doctor to get it right so Mcgann's costume was perfect but his change was during audios anyway so not really applicable as he wasn't on screen.
@@user-et6pj4db9s I would have liked a hybrid; the shirt, cravat, waistcoat and pants of his original outfit, with a leather coat over that.
@@thequietestengine They kind of already did that with the War Doctor whose sposed to be a kind of halfway point between 8 and 9 costume wise, but I didn't like 9s costume at all cos of the leather jacket so I don't really care for any of it. I'm a purist, the theme in the old show was old fashioned outfits so I wanted them to stick to that but they were never going to ofcourse.
Sylvester: "How to win a war give everyone spoons"
12th doctor: "I am the doctor, and this is my spoon!"
Also 12th doctor: "Sit. Down. And. Talk!"
What's funny about this is that some of the things mentioned in this commentary, which they didn't do, are things Moffat ended up incorporating.
That's why I prefer him to Davies. He knows how to make it work. @@Craigy2818
Paul McGann may have not got a chance to be the Doctor for at least 1 season, but at least he stopped Y2K. Thank you Paul.
He wouldn't have had a million big finish audio series without stopping it because technology like cd players would've become tiny buzz saws to saw off peoples faces.
He didn't stop the Y2K fashion revival though.
@@kingofpointless Well he can’t do everything with the amount of screen time he has!
0:33
In fairness to Sylvester, being unable to find an important location with eager followers gather is a very 'Doctor' thing to do
i lovew that in this video Paul is non existing up until Sylvester mentions him, so it looks liek he truly is not there until Sylvester calls him a better modle 🤣🤣
he’s a little shy I think he needed the confidence boost from sylv 😅
"i, hated that wig. i... hated... it" is the energy im tackling 2024 with
followed closely by "yes, explain the worm"
7:11 That is the most Doctorish thing I've ever heard.
Sylvester: "Incomprehensible Scottish" = "Och, I didnae know that."
4:05 "I'd assumed they'd all had kids". I mean, the Fifth Doctor adopted several XD
The Doctor had a granddaughter in the very first series...
@@frankshailes3205 Oh, Susan Foreman? Yeah, she's awesome. Personally, I'm more of a fan of the Fifth Doctor's era, but One's era is pretty awesome.
6:08 This aged INCREDIBLY WELL!!
I was thinking that hahaha
Why?
Night of the Doctor brought Paul McGann back
The Flux brought Sylvester McCoy back
'that's not a kiss, that's a re-bore' had me in TEARS
7:20 “I’m the Doctor, and _this_ is my _spoon…_ *and this is **_my spoon’s faithful companion!”_* 🥄🥄
I wonder if sylv has seen robot of sherwood 🤔
@@fifthdoctor “The One Where a Bossy Control Freak Yells at an Alien and the Earl of Loxley (and also the Sheriff of Nottingham is a cyborg)”
Interesting McGann calls his mate "McCoy" here when in real life he calls him "Kent". I guess as it's a recorded performance, whereas written interviews are just in print publications.
yeah interesting! I’ve only ever heard paul refer to sylvester as mccoy but I suppose it’s maybe to avoid confusion with fans who don’t know sylv’s real name
Sylvester McCoy might be old but he still has a sharp sense of humour and he has great chemistry with Paul Mcgann and Nick Brigs. Amazing!
"Foul play was not suspected."
the way Paul delivered that. I chokelaughed :P
This movie is so gorgeous, the cinematography is so good. It's such a shame that it's logistically so hard or the distributors think there's no money in it to remaster the movie in HD from the camera negatives or whatever. They'd probably have to redo plenty of CGI but it's not like a DS9 situation, there's not loads of it
Also maybe hopefully the project files are still sitting around somewhere in decent condition and someone can fire up Softimage or something and re-render at least some of it that way
I know!! I would KILL for a HD version you don’t even understand. Maybe one day…. 💔
I heard it was on bluray. Could be wrong though. @@fifthdoctor
These commentaries bring me so much joy. Consistent banter between cast-members, and beyond character affiliations.
I think the "incomprehensible scottish" segment that Sylvester said was something along the lines of "Huh, I didn't know that".
It sounded like "Aye, is that right? How did he know that?" to me.
Like "how did you guess? What gave it away?".
Just a gentle leg-pulling reminder from Sylvester that, like David Tennant, he's Scottish and is merely adopting an "acting accent" for the purposes of his job.
Tennant's accent, though, is so impeccably good. Essentially perfect. That if you don't know and then hear him in his non-acting voice, it's a guaranteed WTF moment. Like when Americans, who're not aware, hear Hugh Laurie speaking normally - not only not American, but actually a very posh English accent - or, similarly, Andrew Lincoln from the Walking Dead (actually, Walking Dead was full of this. David Morrissey. Lauren Cohen's mid-Atlantic accent - it was full of people faking an American accent).
He said "I didnae know that," a scottish variation of "didn't."
Sylvester's comment about hair in Star Trek 😂😂😂😂😂
I don't remember any non-alien character in Star Trek wearing a wig except Walter Koenig. They wanted him to look young, cute, and trendy so he had to wear it until his real hair grew out. He said swallows could nest in that wig.
"The Doctors got loads of hair!"
Me: …… *looks over at the 9th Doctor* Who's going to tell them?
5:10
what was it mad you cut your hair?
McGann : "I PLAYED SOULJA BOY"
I originally thought the movie was trash, but the audio commentary changed my mind, now its better
Its not trash. The timeless children made the movie become A class in comparison.
“The Doctors Who”
"let's get back in the TARDIS, c'mon"
Like the BBC just calls them in when they need commentary, TARDIS materialises, doctors show up and do their bit, then bugger off back inside.
Magic
i remember going to a convention back in 2013 and even THEN Paul talked about how much he hated that wig. I remember him saying he wanted to burn it. it was an amazing convention, they had doctors 5-8, nick briggs, john leeson, janet fielding (she was in the panel with peter and they bickered the entire time) and I think one of the costume ladies (i forget her name).
"lets get back in the tardis" (devious mccoy laugh)
Sylvester mcocoy gives a great profamce as the seventh doctor and paul mcggan gives a great profamce as the eighth doctor
I love hearing Sylvester and Paul talk
It's a crime Paul hasn't had more on-screen parts as Eight beyond the movie and the 50th special but at least Big Finish gave us an era in audio, and then some.
Oh the audio commentary in the Classic Who is hilarious.
loved these videos, never stop making them !
glad you like them! more coming soon i hope :)
@@fifthdoctor yay 😁, thanks for making these !
PAUL LITERALLY FORGETTING HOW MANY KISSES THERE WERE
bro had no idea
Paul McGann stopped Y2K put it in the history books
The Doctor did it again. What a chap.
"incomprehensible"
He said "oh a dinnie know that"
5:34-5:37 My favorite out many great moments of this, Paul McGann's Sass was just so funny!!!
On the subject of making religions out of sci-fi franchises, Gene Roddenberry actually considered turning Star Trek into a Scientology-esque religion, and mentioned being friends with L. Ron Hubbard.
I wonder if L. Ron told him that he'd started Scientology as a joke to see how many people would fall for it.
Please do more of these I love them 😍
I’ll try to! I’ve got half of arc of infinity done I just need to find the motivation to finish it lol
Every few months I come back to these videos, they’re too funny!
Please do more, I love these
Paul is a gem 😍 love this video
Paul McGann is my absolute favorite Doctor.
Loved this thank you!!
yw, glad you liked!
This is delightful.
mcgann has a voice so smooth
A fair and melodious one.
This is surprisingly good wtf
YOU'VE HIT CLOUT, KIDDO. ONE BANGER AFTER THE OTHER.
they are so manic together its uncanny
Not gonna lie, the song in this movie by Pat Hodges made me sob. Not only personally hitting a cord. Also the fact we had so little time initially with both McGann and Ecclestons Doctors. It felt like a dream. It makes me think of the Neil Gaiman Episode "The Doctors' Wife" and (remembering the scanners the TARDIS has) It would make my heart ache at those thoughts that most of the logs with them are stuck in audio. Like Amnesia for a TARDIS.
Also, at 1:20
"They all have lots of hair."
Christopher Eccleston, listening to this sometime in the future, probably: "Ex-fucking-cuse me?"
Sylvester and Paul are the best 😂
And they did get the call back in their dotage 😊
I love Paul Mcgann so much, he's so funny
I can’t unsee the dribbly kiss
neither can I 😭
I want to watch the hole thing now as it has 3 of my favourite actors
Totally recommend! The film and the commentary that is
5:38 We should start a Doctor Who Cult solely to fund the Doctor Who show proper!
Oh yes I love this commentary, I thought about doing an edit of this commentary myself But I guess I don't need to.
I’d love to see someone else’s take on it honestly! or other commentaries :)
@@fifthdoctor This commentary is one of a few that I watch a lot, they are just entertaining. I might do one on something like Arc Of Infinity. That has a good commentary.
it's just the 7th Doctor and his 2 Companions Watching his Own Movie
Watching this shortly before the 60th is absolutely insane. We need Paul back, ngl, he needs his own series some way some how. Sylvester, wonderful as always. (Except the religion remark, keep ya religion outta muh Doctor Who!!!!)
Completely agree! (And tbh I think Sylvester was suggesting starting a cult which I mean….. I’d be down for it lol)
It isn't like Doctor Who hasn't had brushes with "Supernatural" concepts. There's the Black and White Guardians, and Space Satan in the New-Who era.
Hey Sylvester
4:07 Paul u good, man?
where can i find the full commentary??
it's on the special edition and bluray dvd versions of the movie :) i just got the bluray dvd off amazon
which version of the movie was this? I got one and it didnt have any of the cast in it. (The one with Roberts in gallifrey robes in the center on the cover, from 2001 i think?)
The version I have is the bluray but I think this commentary is also on the special edition from like 2010 ish?
Can u do a video that’s the 5 doctors commentary 👀
already preordered the s 20 boxset I’ll make it as soon as they can ship it to me lol
@@fifthdoctor If you can find it, the old DVD commentary of The Five Doctors with Peter Davison and Terrance Dicks is quite funny. "There was a bit of a boom mic shadow on Janet's hair there, can we redo that?" (Brief pause.) "Twenty years, Peter!"
My favourite part 4:10
When was this released? Was it with the movie?
This was recorded around 2010 or just before I believe 🤔 it was for the special edition dvd release!
When did this commentary come out?
It was recorded in 2009 and I think it was released in 2010 :)
@@fifthdoctor cool, thanks :)
How do I see or get this movie?
Amazon, ebay, the internet, depends where you live :)
Who’s Nicholas? I can’t find him on the cast list, is it the dalek voice guy or a different Nick? Excuse my ignorance
That’s okay! It’s Nick Briggs so yes it’s the dalek voice guy lol he wasn’t actually in the movie in any capacity but I guess they just let him do the commentary
@@fifthdoctor ahhhh tysm! Makes sense now (sort of lol) 😊😊
@@PugLouWeez All good! Some of the people who appear on the commentaries can be a bit obscure lol
He's the voice of the daleks, but he's also the main guy at Big Finish Productions, so you could say he's basically the showrunner for the 8th Doctor's era. Makes sense why they'd have him there for the movie, considering he's responsible for every other Paul McGann outing as the Doctor for the last 25 years.
i have a question, who is Nicolas?
nick briggs, who is the voice of the daleks in the modern series, basically runs big finish, and is generally involved in all sorts of doctor who stuff :)
5:30 Transcript: 'H'I didn't know that.
where can one find the whole audio commentary??
on the dvd! the special edition for this one specifically. I own the bluray version which has it if that helps :)
Dang! I can't find a copy that would work for US bluray - thank you for the info!! @@fifthdoctor
When did they do this? I love hearing Nick Briggs talking... well in general, but this was especially great
I think the commentary was recorded around 2009/2010 :)
Can't wait for Briggs to finally snuff it.
What, did he pour sand on your corn flakes or something?
@@elwoodjacobs4353 No, he poured sh!t all over my favourite show.
What are you talking about? Briggs has never been the showrunner for Doctor Who. It's not his fault it's gone to crap. He just does the monster voices.
@@elwoodjacobs4353 lol just shows how bad Big Finish is, that even the Nu-hu production team wouldn't condescend to commissioning BF's most well-known "writer".
Next to the God-awful voices, Briggs is in all the DVD docs & commentaries & does most interviews. He has got the 2nd most punchable face, next to that fat bald guy, Clayton Hickman.
@@FreeAssangeBriggs wrote lucie miller and to the death no matter how punchable you think he is he’s not a bad writer
Oh hey! I just realised i follow you on tiktok too Lmao!