How did the series go from DA:O to this??? Target audience seems to be prepubescent Disney movie fans, the trailer more reminiscent of Frozen than Origins and Inquisition. The pop music doesn't help at all. Worst of all, the trailer evoked no intrigue and excitement. Chances I will play this are very, very low.
Despite the trailer , I am still majority happily hype for new Dragon Age! Previous DA trailers were different from actual Dragon Age games that we have played too. This is one of Varric's narratives that's always not what actually truly happens within game itself too. Need to be open minded first before instant judgment call on actual game before it comes out. I have love and enjoyed playing all of Dragon Age games including most hated Dragon Age 2 by many of Dragon Age fans. Though , I am type person who needs to decide for myself and ultimately found out that I do love playing many hated games in the end. ❤
High five fellow DA2 enjoyer! It's all a matter of time for us to see how everything pans out. The tone was certainly "off" but whenever I heard people bring up the DAO trailer, as if it was a sorta "gacha", I e been left scratching my head wondering if these same people actually played DAO. There's nothing heavy metal splatterpink horror about DAO. It had darker themes and narratives, sure, but it wasn't Doom for crying out loud. It was still just dark fantasy, limited by cRPG pacing, topes, and weaknesses. It was, is, neither the gameplay of DAO or the DAO trailer that have made some fans live this franchise for 10-15 years. It's easy to maintain the current modern trends regarding bait narratives, but the franchise is really about much more than the surface layer. If this was true, the franchise would've died over a decade ago. Jump on Twitter and Reddit and it should be more than clear that the livid fans out there are posting about characters, art, romances, and lore crafting. Not innovative or regressive gameplay builds and systems. Time will tell which cluster of the audience shows up when the game launches. I strongly speculated that the game will succeed, despite vocal criticism. I just don't think that DAV will be received akin to MEA or Anthem. Time will tell. 😅👍
It said in engine footage not in game, so there is a chance game doesn't look like that at all and this was some weird artistic idea to reveal our companions or something like that
This is how I feel. It's a "Varric Trailer" is my current stance. He embellished at the start of DA2 as well. If Varric wasn't the key narrator of this trailer, then ya, I'd be a bit more concerned. Right now, I'm happy to wait for other content to confirm or deny. TH-cam (and Twitter) are great at spinning folks up 😂... folks need to chill...
Even if it ends up being garbage ill still watch your playthrough. Your dragon age playthrough is probably my favourite letsplay i have watched of any letsplay so it will still be fun watching you go through your theory's as the story progresses. Good luck and thanks for saving me the 90 Australian dollars haha
Hey, buddy! Loved watching your reaction! So excited to see you play when the game drops! Maybe even chat about it with you before it does? Talk soon, my friend!
For sure! Plenty of perspectives to discuss, considering the bombardment of opinions about the trailer. Many aren't wrong... but... I also think a majority of that "many" aren't patient enough to validate concerns, or contextualize design/marketing decisions. The game's tone absolutely feels off on this trailer, there's no denying that, but when I hear Varric controlling the narrative of a tale, I think back to the opening of DA2 where the intro was played as a retelling of Hawke's events by Varric who was being interrogated by Cassandra. I want to believe there's some meta-playfullness happening here, because otherwise, I'd be nervous to play through the morally gray dark fantasy narratives, that this IP has delivered for a decade and a half, with characters that look like they're in a tween animated Christmas flick. I'm a patient man though haha! Let's check out the gameplay and discuss!
After some time sitting on this trailer- and with the additional info we got from Bioware after it dropped, I'm actually very excited for this game... more than I was initially. It's funny what an trailer art style can do to the dragon age fanbase for almost 24 hours hahaha. I saw some people comparing this to Fortnite and Overwatch and that is just such a comical exaggeration to what we got, it's silly to me. It feels like a blend of all the previous art styles with softer textures. Do I love the glittery, colorful presentation in the trailer? Not initially, but i didn't hate it either. After seeing game screenshots and hearing some thoughts from people who've seen the in-game stuff early, the game is (reportedly) more dark and gritty than advertised? It's clear the marketing team is banking on new players, which is what I expected after a decade of worries and silence both, but listen.... Varric has a beard !! In all seriousness though, love it or hate it, I dont think games, especially RPGs, have to be Dark Souls look-alikes in order to be enjoyable to look at or play. I mean rewatch the CG trailer for DAO and then go back to the OG game. Wow, what a difference... same with DA2. I'm excited to see what the team landed on and its coming so soon ! People think negative contrarianism is a personality trait that deserves merit and i can't allow them to ruin it for me. It's like people want it to fail, which is odd bc as a gamer, dont you want more good games to exist? Be cautiously optimistic sure, but geeeeezz. Mind you, all of the criticism has been about the art style. Thats it. No story, no characters or their actual design, no plot, nothing... just the art style. As long as the story, plot, and lore are juicy, I'm locked in. I mean I've waited this long !
I hope the game is nothing like this trailer. That was so horrible. I don't want a Blizzard game or arena shooter, whatever they are called. I want dragon age. I might be one of the few who thinks Origins is the best in the series but BG3 proved that the genre can be extremely successful.
The first dragon age was like a very dark spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate, even had marilyn manson singing to the trailer as blood was everywhere. If you like this fine, but im done with the serie. I cant jump from that to this. Imagine if Super Mario suddenly became a Mature only game. I get fortnite vibes from this, too much vibrant color no thanks! It went from dark realism to cartoonish style, no thanks! I guess Baldurs Gate 3 was more what I expected from them.
Not sure what I think about the title change and what that means for the game given what we saw here. I was hoping for at least somewhat of a continuation of where Inquisition left off. Hopefully, they didn't just cater to new players of the series throwing alot of setup in the trash. Will give the animation change a chance though even if its wierd seing Varric like that. All in all given Bioware's last flops and what ive seen so far im not optimistic enough to pre order or buy until reviews come out.😅
Folks certainly have reason to be nervous. I'm trying to take a "glass half full" mentality, specifically because I have to imagine Bioware know how vital it'll be to make this game land right on the market. Am I a BIT nervous that the combat becomes Overwatch-esque? Ummm maybe a bit. But at the same time, if they can make that type of combat flow well WITH narrative flow, this is sorta the magical mix I haven't really experienced since the Mass Effect trilogy. And Last of Us... That game did this dynamic impeccably.
From what I hear the last of Bioware's original team was gone after Mass Effect 3 so it makes complete sense that Bioware hasn't released anything good since then. I jumped ship after playing Inquisition. Too much DEI and ESG BS even back then and it's only getting worse.
Yeah, if they can't remember Varric's hair color or the fact that he intentionally shaved his beard because it made him look less "dwarfy"? These are just two small details on a fan favorite character. Getting that wrong makes me feel like we're in for many more continuity issues of various degrees of importance.
What a corny over the top cartoonish we will milk fans dry off their money trailer. That whole trailer looks like these over produced MMO game trailers - where the whole game s***s. This very likely will be a rip off so many currently well selling games without any good own ideas or a real story. It will throw out all Dragon Age lore or just invents it own. Even worse than DA:I. DAO was the only good one back when Bioware still existed! EAware always is crab! I never payed for any EAware game ever - nor will I for this one! But I own DAO Ultimate Edition - no regrets with the only gem!
🗑️ RIP Mass Effect. Hopefully BioWare gets shuttered before they turn Commander Shep into a Bollywood actress going through transition who dances to appease the Reapers.
As someone who never seen or played anything Dragon Age, this trailer looks like definition of tone-deaf if you ask me. This shii looks like cheesy Marvel TV show/run of the mill looter hero shooter with neon color plapped onto text and character reveal, on some Suicide Squad 2 business or smth and not a gritty dark fantasy RPG, from what I gathered about the series on a quick notice. If anything, this trailer will make people play the older games, and not the new one. We'll just have to wait and see. And of course we have to tick off them Blackrock checkmarks by putting in Asian and black elves. Now hold on, before people put words in my mouth and call me certain words, let me make it clear - I do NOT have anything against the pure concept such looking fantasy creatures, as long as it makes *sense* in the given world and is a choice made with proper care (I now know that there were Fenris and Zevrin or whatever the names are, who were on the darker side of skin compared to traditional depictions an elf, but they sure as hell didn't look straight-up African like the Warden dude, so Bioware has got to explain the lore for me ngl. Yall have to clarify to me if all is in order on that front or they are pulling modern nonesense again.). The problem for me is - companies have been doing that, again, for the brownie points and out of blatant shallow tokenism that these allegedly "represented" people don't even like at the end of the day, I've seen the rants. Overall - not very promising first impression, can't wait for your reaction to gameplay trailer that's already dropped by the time I finished writing the comment, meant to send it hours ago.
The first DA game was basically the pioneer for offering a queer gaming experience. It was already providing both diversity of skin tones and queer identity BEFORE "The Narrative" which pre-triggers the market to hyperfocus on these things as if they're some new layer to the franchise experience. No no... DA was doing all this AS part of its experience offering. It was done right. It was baked into the game naturally and organically. Baldur's Gate 3 proved it could be done even more organically, as an opportunity inside the game flow if the player desired to surface those layers of the game, but if they didn't, they sorta wouldn't even surface. It's organic. Not pandering. Not tokenizing. Keep in mind Dragon Age Origins was the spiritual successor of Baldur's Gate 2, when it seemed like that IP was done for almost a decade prior. To me, Baldur's Gate 3 feels more like it's taken heavy inspiration from Dragon Age Origins and then leveled things up (properly). Now, it just feels like a natural flow to expect DA Veilguard to take notes and inspiration from BG3 and deliver what it helped pioneer. As for racial diversity, skin tone is effectively across the came, with a noticeable lack of Asian representation. It's speculated that this is because the world of Thedas has other countries/continents not yet explored, but the inclusion of the Veil Jumper character might offer a bridge to this lore. Time will tell. My perspective of the lore is a bit unconventional, in that I've not seen anyone position it the same way I see it, but in my theorycraft, Thedas is effectively an "Earth" that has been transformed by the influence of the Fade and the supernatural forces at play there. I consider the world itself to be in the same galaxy as the Mass Effect IP, for example. The details as to how are fanfiction, but in my head canon it works and therefore the wrapper of fantasy that sits on top of the DA IP isn't the traditional Tolkien vanilla wrapper. It's a planet that transformed a human colony due to unexplained methods and forces, that COULD be explained with science fiction if removed from the Thedas Bubble context. I digress though. Only popping in to point out that as a long time DA fan, "The Narrative" that informs trigger culture doesn't quite fit with DA. Where things get messy, is when talk about target audience comes into the picture. The target audience SHOULD BE long time fans of the DA franchise. Where things break down is when NEW target audiences are attempted to be reached. It's a valid capitalist play that could keep this studio alive after a few terrible launches... at the same time, when they broaden their marketing beyond the core, it's inevitable that they'll have to navigate The Narrative. The question will be HOW they do this... I feel most of the damage these studios do, is when they have dumbasses causing PR nightmares by dropping slurs and NON-inclusive disparaging comments. But as this reply began, this franchise SHOULD know how to handle themselves. If any game has the right of way on this front, it's DA. Let's see if they manage to ride the wake of BG3. Lots of eyes are on them with this launch. Could be a make or break situation for the studio and EA. Time will tell.
@@XEIGaming Ah, I see, thanks for explaining it to me! Now I really feel like I've been missing out on DA, haha. But before I tackle that, I feel like I have to go through Gothic franchise first. Cus you don't understand, every mfer and their mother was playing Gothic on almost religious basis here in Eastern Europe (or Lineage II, we had our own slang for the game and everything, but I hear that game is nigh unplayable these days on account of bots?).
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How did the series go from DA:O to this??? Target audience seems to be prepubescent Disney movie fans, the trailer more reminiscent of Frozen than Origins and Inquisition. The pop music doesn't help at all. Worst of all, the trailer evoked no intrigue and excitement. Chances I will play this are very, very low.
Despite the trailer , I am still majority happily hype for new Dragon Age! Previous DA trailers were different from actual Dragon Age games that we have played too. This is one of Varric's narratives that's always not what actually truly happens within game itself too. Need to be open minded first before instant judgment call on actual game before it comes out. I have love and enjoyed playing all of Dragon Age games including most hated Dragon Age 2 by many of Dragon Age fans. Though , I am type person who needs to decide for myself and ultimately found out that I do love playing many hated games in the end. ❤
High five fellow DA2 enjoyer! It's all a matter of time for us to see how everything pans out. The tone was certainly "off" but whenever I heard people bring up the DAO trailer, as if it was a sorta "gacha", I e been left scratching my head wondering if these same people actually played DAO. There's nothing heavy metal splatterpink horror about DAO. It had darker themes and narratives, sure, but it wasn't Doom for crying out loud. It was still just dark fantasy, limited by cRPG pacing, topes, and weaknesses. It was, is, neither the gameplay of DAO or the DAO trailer that have made some fans live this franchise for 10-15 years. It's easy to maintain the current modern trends regarding bait narratives, but the franchise is really about much more than the surface layer. If this was true, the franchise would've died over a decade ago. Jump on Twitter and Reddit and it should be more than clear that the livid fans out there are posting about characters, art, romances, and lore crafting. Not innovative or regressive gameplay builds and systems. Time will tell which cluster of the audience shows up when the game launches. I strongly speculated that the game will succeed, despite vocal criticism. I just don't think that DAV will be received akin to MEA or Anthem. Time will tell. 😅👍
It said in engine footage not in game, so there is a chance game doesn't look like that at all and this was some weird artistic idea to reveal our companions or something like that
Whenever they say that stuff it's always worse though
This is how I feel. It's a "Varric Trailer" is my current stance. He embellished at the start of DA2 as well. If Varric wasn't the key narrator of this trailer, then ya, I'd be a bit more concerned. Right now, I'm happy to wait for other content to confirm or deny. TH-cam (and Twitter) are great at spinning folks up 😂... folks need to chill...
Nah, they missed the mark by a mile. This looks absolutely terrible.
Remember the Sacred ashes dragon age Origins Trailer?
Everybody is rewatching it right now.
🎉🎉🎉
Even if it ends up being garbage ill still watch your playthrough. Your dragon age playthrough is probably my favourite letsplay i have watched of any letsplay so it will still be fun watching you go through your theory's as the story progresses. Good luck and thanks for saving me the 90 Australian dollars haha
Hey, buddy! Loved watching your reaction! So excited to see you play when the game drops! Maybe even chat about it with you before it does? Talk soon, my friend!
For sure! Plenty of perspectives to discuss, considering the bombardment of opinions about the trailer. Many aren't wrong... but... I also think a majority of that "many" aren't patient enough to validate concerns, or contextualize design/marketing decisions. The game's tone absolutely feels off on this trailer, there's no denying that, but when I hear Varric controlling the narrative of a tale, I think back to the opening of DA2 where the intro was played as a retelling of Hawke's events by Varric who was being interrogated by Cassandra. I want to believe there's some meta-playfullness happening here, because otherwise, I'd be nervous to play through the morally gray dark fantasy narratives, that this IP has delivered for a decade and a half, with characters that look like they're in a tween animated Christmas flick. I'm a patient man though haha! Let's check out the gameplay and discuss!
After some time sitting on this trailer- and with the additional info we got from Bioware after it dropped, I'm actually very excited for this game... more than I was initially.
It's funny what an trailer art style can do to the dragon age fanbase for almost 24 hours hahaha. I saw some people comparing this to Fortnite and Overwatch and that is just such a comical exaggeration to what we got, it's silly to me. It feels like a blend of all the previous art styles with softer textures. Do I love the glittery, colorful presentation in the trailer? Not initially, but i didn't hate it either. After seeing game screenshots and hearing some thoughts from people who've seen the in-game stuff early, the game is (reportedly) more dark and gritty than advertised? It's clear the marketing team is banking on new players, which is what I expected after a decade of worries and silence both, but listen.... Varric has a beard !!
In all seriousness though, love it or hate it, I dont think games, especially RPGs, have to be Dark Souls look-alikes in order to be enjoyable to look at or play. I mean rewatch the CG trailer for DAO and then go back to the OG game. Wow, what a difference... same with DA2. I'm excited to see what the team landed on and its coming so soon ! People think negative contrarianism is a personality trait that deserves merit and i can't allow them to ruin it for me. It's like people want it to fail, which is odd bc as a gamer, dont you want more good games to exist? Be cautiously optimistic sure, but geeeeezz. Mind you, all of the criticism has been about the art style. Thats it. No story, no characters or their actual design, no plot, nothing... just the art style. As long as the story, plot, and lore are juicy, I'm locked in. I mean I've waited this long !
It's arena shoot aggressively targeting 9-12 yo Overwatch playing crowd, what are you doing man???
100% had that vibe. But... Let's see what the gameplay brings...
I hope the game is nothing like this trailer. That was so horrible. I don't want a Blizzard game or arena shooter, whatever they are called. I want dragon age. I might be one of the few who thinks Origins is the best in the series but BG3 proved that the genre can be extremely successful.
The first dragon age was like a very dark spiritual successor to Baldurs Gate, even had marilyn manson singing to the trailer as blood was everywhere. If you like this fine, but im done with the serie. I cant jump from that to this. Imagine if Super Mario suddenly became a Mature only game. I get fortnite vibes from this, too much vibrant color no thanks! It went from dark realism to cartoonish style, no thanks! I guess Baldurs Gate 3 was more what I expected from them.
Not sure what I think about the title change and what that means for the game given what we saw here. I was hoping for at least somewhat of a continuation of where Inquisition left off. Hopefully, they didn't just cater to new players of the series throwing alot of setup in the trash. Will give the animation change a chance though even if its wierd seing Varric like that. All in all given Bioware's last flops and what ive seen so far im not optimistic enough to pre order or buy until reviews come out.😅
Folks certainly have reason to be nervous. I'm trying to take a "glass half full" mentality, specifically because I have to imagine Bioware know how vital it'll be to make this game land right on the market. Am I a BIT nervous that the combat becomes Overwatch-esque? Ummm maybe a bit. But at the same time, if they can make that type of combat flow well WITH narrative flow, this is sorta the magical mix I haven't really experienced since the Mass Effect trilogy. And Last of Us... That game did this dynamic impeccably.
From what I hear the last of Bioware's original team was gone after Mass Effect 3 so it makes complete sense that Bioware hasn't released anything good since then. I jumped ship after playing Inquisition. Too much DEI and ESG BS even back then and it's only getting worse.
Yeah, if they can't remember Varric's hair color or the fact that he intentionally shaved his beard because it made him look less "dwarfy"? These are just two small details on a fan favorite character. Getting that wrong makes me feel like we're in for many more continuity issues of various degrees of importance.
EA it IS in the game!
😂
Is it a mobile game? Seriously...looks like a bad mix of hearthstone and overwatch...such a let down. terrible.
The necromancer reminds me of Vincent Price. 😮
OMG! YES!!
Looks like everything I don't want to see in Dragon Age.
What a corny over the top cartoonish we will milk fans dry off their money trailer.
That whole trailer looks like these over produced MMO game trailers - where the whole game s***s.
This very likely will be a rip off so many currently well selling games without any good own ideas or a real story.
It will throw out all Dragon Age lore or just invents it own. Even worse than DA:I.
DAO was the only good one back when Bioware still existed! EAware always is crab! I never payed for any EAware game ever - nor will I for this one!
But I own DAO Ultimate Edition - no regrets with the only gem!
🗑️
RIP Mass Effect. Hopefully BioWare gets shuttered before they turn Commander Shep into a Bollywood actress going through transition who dances to appease the Reapers.
i would pay to see this 🤣
As someone who never seen or played anything Dragon Age, this trailer looks like definition of tone-deaf if you ask me. This shii looks like cheesy Marvel TV show/run of the mill looter hero shooter with neon color plapped onto text and character reveal, on some Suicide Squad 2 business or smth and not a gritty dark fantasy RPG, from what I gathered about the series on a quick notice. If anything, this trailer will make people play the older games, and not the new one. We'll just have to wait and see.
And of course we have to tick off them Blackrock checkmarks by putting in Asian and black elves. Now hold on, before people put words in my mouth and call me certain words, let me make it clear - I do NOT have anything against the pure concept such looking fantasy creatures, as long as it makes *sense* in the given world and is a choice made with proper care (I now know that there were Fenris and Zevrin or whatever the names are, who were on the darker side of skin compared to traditional depictions an elf, but they sure as hell didn't look straight-up African like the Warden dude, so Bioware has got to explain the lore for me ngl. Yall have to clarify to me if all is in order on that front or they are pulling modern nonesense again.). The problem for me is - companies have been doing that, again, for the brownie points and out of blatant shallow tokenism that these allegedly "represented" people don't even like at the end of the day, I've seen the rants.
Overall - not very promising first impression, can't wait for your reaction to gameplay trailer that's already dropped by the time I finished writing the comment, meant to send it hours ago.
The first DA game was basically the pioneer for offering a queer gaming experience. It was already providing both diversity of skin tones and queer identity BEFORE "The Narrative" which pre-triggers the market to hyperfocus on these things as if they're some new layer to the franchise experience. No no... DA was doing all this AS part of its experience offering. It was done right. It was baked into the game naturally and organically. Baldur's Gate 3 proved it could be done even more organically, as an opportunity inside the game flow if the player desired to surface those layers of the game, but if they didn't, they sorta wouldn't even surface. It's organic. Not pandering. Not tokenizing. Keep in mind Dragon Age Origins was the spiritual successor of Baldur's Gate 2, when it seemed like that IP was done for almost a decade prior. To me, Baldur's Gate 3 feels more like it's taken heavy inspiration from Dragon Age Origins and then leveled things up (properly). Now, it just feels like a natural flow to expect DA Veilguard to take notes and inspiration from BG3 and deliver what it helped pioneer. As for racial diversity, skin tone is effectively across the came, with a noticeable lack of Asian representation. It's speculated that this is because the world of Thedas has other countries/continents not yet explored, but the inclusion of the Veil Jumper character might offer a bridge to this lore. Time will tell. My perspective of the lore is a bit unconventional, in that I've not seen anyone position it the same way I see it, but in my theorycraft, Thedas is effectively an "Earth" that has been transformed by the influence of the Fade and the supernatural forces at play there. I consider the world itself to be in the same galaxy as the Mass Effect IP, for example. The details as to how are fanfiction, but in my head canon it works and therefore the wrapper of fantasy that sits on top of the DA IP isn't the traditional Tolkien vanilla wrapper. It's a planet that transformed a human colony due to unexplained methods and forces, that COULD be explained with science fiction if removed from the Thedas Bubble context. I digress though. Only popping in to point out that as a long time DA fan, "The Narrative" that informs trigger culture doesn't quite fit with DA. Where things get messy, is when talk about target audience comes into the picture. The target audience SHOULD BE long time fans of the DA franchise. Where things break down is when NEW target audiences are attempted to be reached. It's a valid capitalist play that could keep this studio alive after a few terrible launches... at the same time, when they broaden their marketing beyond the core, it's inevitable that they'll have to navigate The Narrative. The question will be HOW they do this... I feel most of the damage these studios do, is when they have dumbasses causing PR nightmares by dropping slurs and NON-inclusive disparaging comments. But as this reply began, this franchise SHOULD know how to handle themselves. If any game has the right of way on this front, it's DA. Let's see if they manage to ride the wake of BG3. Lots of eyes are on them with this launch. Could be a make or break situation for the studio and EA. Time will tell.
@@XEIGaming Ah, I see, thanks for explaining it to me! Now I really feel like I've been missing out on DA, haha. But before I tackle that, I feel like I have to go through Gothic franchise first. Cus you don't understand, every mfer and their mother was playing Gothic on almost religious basis here in Eastern Europe (or Lineage II, we had our own slang for the game and everything, but I hear that game is nigh unplayable these days on account of bots?).