Yes, I'm aware of Mixing Station. Yes, I know you can load it on your phone. No, I didn't know about both when this video was filmed 9 months ago - Just in case you were going to comment about either.
I've done A/V tech in the church for 22+ years. All except 1 church assembly was gradual headaches as the church leadership showed their true colors overtime of their attitude toward not only the equipment, but the entire operation, especially the human beings carrying out the tasks. Ignorance is not the core issue, neither is money. Human attitude is the leading cause of failures within human error. I have dealt with those who were ignorant of A/V Tech, and had respectful attitudes and prioritized wisdom, and then those who were ignorant, and their attitudes warranted serious reality check that is not our responsibility to administer. I side with you, Chris, to only work with people who want us to work with them, and to work in the right way. I'm currently keeping my distance from the church altogether as my patience as a whole has run out and I'm depleted. That is just where I currently am. I acknowledge there are some great church assemblies out there. I'm now very skeptical on how the leaderships treat their technicians, and any wind of BS without legitimate correction, I'm not sticking around for when the pile hits the fan. I've been in too many scenarios of that. I'm sure there are many who will argue that technicians just need to be more patient. However, there is a difference between being patient with people, and then just enabling intentional stagnation. The imperfection card has no merit either. We're not looking for perfection. We're looking for progress. Anyone with enough experience can ascertain when an individual is bluffing on progress and trying to maintain a stagnation while attempting to pacify those sniffing close to their pile of attempted deception. A couple of my observations in this setup is leaving equipment loose like it was is very risky. While securing the gear as reasonably possible is more expensive, that's part of the field we're in, and it costs what it costs. That cost is going to materialize one way or another. It can materialize in the scenario this video captured, or it can materialize in the form of upfront expensive, but yet wise decisions yielding results that are worth it. The choice is up to the leadership. Ignorance does not supersede outcome, and most certainly not recklessness. Always have an employed Technical Director. I was doing a consultation for a church that didn't have one, and their wireless systems were 5 years into violation of the FCC, using frequencies that were restricted. A trained and informed personnel needs to be assigned as an overseer for this stuff. The lack of budget or lack of care to get one DOES NOT supersede the outcomes and consequences. I don't mean to sound harsh on the church, but rather concerned and caring. Sometimes the delivery has to be firm to establish within the human psychology that the subject is serious. And as history has shown with humans, firmness is by a lot of cases the few things we take seriously.
It's wild how churches pay no taxes and are so poorly run with now much people that run churches are getting paid (their income also not getting taxed because the bible or some shit)
I agree with you as well! I can only talk about my experience but someone may be assigned and might know quite a bit about the equipment but does not have any volunteers to help and may be spread thin. Anyway
You are 100 percent correct! I played bass for over 40 years for several churches and after reaching a point of poorly pitiful ethics and attitudes decided 6 years ago to retire from playing and sold all of my basses and bass gear! It was very painful for first couple years but not having to deal with all the human attitudes and unethical situations it soon became much easier! But when I hear a tremendous bass being played I do sort of miss it!!!
@@Deraco1 Yes indeed. I've been in scenarios where the team is dangerously thin that if one person gets sick, the operation is in trouble. In my experience, such scenarios did materialize, but the leadership still refused to apply the lesson learned. That was one of the many occurrences that built the merit to the conclusion that learning is not the problem with mankind, it's attitude. Many humans would rather continue unwise or dysfunctional behaviors and procedures until either consequences with the potential to, or materializes, severely embarrass or traumatize them, and then they start applying what they should have done from the start. Even then, some people remain stubborn. People of this mindset are not interested in resolve. They are only interested in their ideology.
@@AllenPortman I can relate. I also miss the environment, and in the earlier stages, I was very upset at how unfair it is that good people leave, and the bad people get to stay. I got over it as time passed and pursued other technical passions I have. I like bass as well. 👍
To be honest its only fair for one to be patient after they got messed with so hard, a wonder he did not take the x32 with him. I personally never have an issue as long as nobody is messing with me.
My sympathy starts when they tell me they have a bunch of gear missing. My sympathy and patience goes out the window when I take time out of my schedule to show up for a third time, thinking we’re going to dial in the rest of the band, only to walk in on a construction zone and then not telling me about it. Then, on top of it, they don’t put any effort into making a list of what is missing, what needs to be purchased, etc. Nah. No more patience.
As a 14 year old obsessed with sound engineering and a gigging drummer, I just wanted to say how much your channel has inspired me and taught me. I have been learning sound engineering for 4 years now strictly from TH-cam videos and have even made myself a pretty decent home studio, outfitted with enough to record my heavy rock band and make the mix sound somewhat professional. I've been watching your videos for about a year now, and by doing so you have taught me so many valuable lessons from not only your dingbatz videos, but also these mixdown Meltdown videos. Its honestly hard to find POV videos of a real sound engineer working in the field, so I'm so happy I discovered you. A while ago, I realized dingbatz was in New Jersey, so immediately, I made sure my band got in contact with the booking team. However, none of the dates worked for all of us, which really sucked. A couple months after that, we broke up and now I'm too busy with high school to be back in multiple bands, having a gig almost every week. Anyways, I just wanted to say how much of an influence you were to me and that your TH-cam channel can really help and inspire people of all ages.
Thanks for showing us how hard it is to be a sound engineer. And how it increases in difficulty when the "volunteers" you work with are so disconnected.
@@vdominguez355a volunteer should at least know their part of things. I work at a church, every Sunday where the volunteers, at the very least know their part, and it makes it so easy.. we just have an issue with ppl trying to do the audio engineers job
@@Corsair1458 Engineering is not a job of a volunteer unless it's an engineer that is volunteering for a church. It exactly like flying an airplane. Live shows can be crashed too.
I do sound and media at our church and I've also gone to other church's to help get their mix in order, I learn so much from these 'church help' videos. Trouble shooting tips, order of operations, and problem solving. Keep them coming.
I admire your patience and calmness over this. I would have lost my mind trying to keep track of everything. I'm really hoping we'll get to see a successful final mix. This church has a lot of potential, and it looks like a beautiful place, but it just needs some work and organization. (Also who in their right mind would steal from a church?! That should be a sin!)
Reading between the lines here. But Chris got VERY frustrated at this point (for valid reason) and said "that stolen..." and the other guy said "Not stolen, taken." Chris may have went straight to the heart of the matter with a reality check for them, BUT... the "stolen" gear may well have belonged to the guy in question and he just took back his own gear. I reckon they needed Chris to come in to assess the problem and he (Chris) gave them a list of gear needed to get back on track. There was nothing much more he could have done. These churches are "helped out" with those who would bring in their own gear to get them by. Like I can tell you straight up... the keyboards would belong to the players (except the organ). The bass player would have his own bass and amp, etc, etc. I have a bit of my own PA gear installed to help us out. However, If I were to leave, I wouldn't just take it out leaving them with a great big hole to fill either. You are indeed correct in saying "...needs some work and organisation" and it's not impossible and they do need to work with people like Chris.
I got a my dad's small church rocking with an XR18 and Seismic Audio mics, along with some decent stuff. This truly shows me how grateful I need to be in the moments where I face headaches.
Man. I feel for them AND you lol. This is crying time trying to make sense of a system jacked up. Every move you made. I would've made. Same with eq. Ive been involved in singing and sound systems since i was 7 years old and im 42 now. Many years doing this. Amazing work man. Too bad it couldn't be done done.
I oversee the sound at two different ministries. They give me full control to make any changes I need so our sound is amazing. I will never complain ever again. This is crazy. God bless you.
Can I just add that as a worship leader and musician, when the sound is great it does so much for us as far as freedom and confidence.When we put so much work and effort into music and set lists, it really undermines our creativity and morale when the sound is off. It’s very similar to a guitar, if your tone is great you will automatically play so much better.
Install engineer here , if I had to tell you the amount of times that I have to go back to a church because they changed something or did something on their own, is unreal Put a transmitter in a sound bar on a TV so they could stream service from the cameras in the worship room to the TVs throughout the entire church with some nice sound to them. They decided to change the transmitter out themselves. They did not take the protective plastic off to begin with once burned it up And they didn’t know how to tune the antenna to the TV Once we got everything working again, we had no sound because he had it muted from the master on the board. It took me an hour to convince him to look at the board again. Gotta love what we do
@@chrishammillaudio Even web developers can throw lots of curveballs at accessibility testers when it comes to complying with WCAG standards (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines). I love that word "curveballs" though. 🤣
At my old church,we had a pro sound engineer and mixed us live during our rehearsal. It sounded amazing! He set a profile and saved it, all somebody had to do was load that profile and not save any live changes. By the next week we sounded horrible again because somebody messed with it. We sounded great for one rehearsal and never again.
Oh man that sucks! As a church AV/IT/Drummer guy at my church that sucks especially not having the gear that is required for the job. I could not believe being in the position of finding someone stole gear! Hope they get their stuff figured out. You are very patient with them for sure!
Oh my gosh, this is one of the first videos I ever watched. I really love your intro. It is so hilarious. I subscribed to you a while back. I’m so glad I did. This is amazing.
@@chrishammillaudio Sorry but I get a very different vibe. The lack of communication, interest and investment done by management tells a clear story to me. Mainly that the volunteer had been using his own gear to help out the church, but took back his own gear when they booted him.
@@djpsychic So you didn't actually live this story, rather just watched my two videos, and you somehow know more about what really happened? OK... lol
@@davidew98yes he probably left on his own, imagine sinking money into equipment to try to get by while nobody respects your time or what you do, then you find out they hire someone to fix what you aren’t doing right, and to top it off they decide they have money to do a renovation right in the middle of it. There is usually one person holding everything together unseen by everyone else, they work tirelessly for no money even invest their own unnoticed until they burn out and leave and when they take the equipment they bought with them all of a sudden they are the bad guy. All speculation in this case but still probably more common than not
I have to wonfer if they just ran out of funds.... For example, I know of a place that has a budget of $500 a year for sound equipment purchases, and they won't go in to debt for anything. After they bought a digital mixer and stage box, their funding was completely used and they didn't get the rest of what they needed for years. I love this series! Thanks for the work you put in to making it
Loved the intro.as said here before, you are so patient dude. I worked music retail for years and churches were good customers. Bought and paid for good equipment.when asked if they had somebody who knew the product , how to install etc they always said they hag a "soundguy" 9 times out of 10 our p.a /installation te h would get called out to fix something.he hated it. Not bashing all churches but they always pleaded poverty when told there was a cost involved to send a guy out to help. Many can play etc but have no technical knowledge which can cause alot of priblems.mike.cape town.south africa.
As many others point to, these are “church leadership issues” projected downwards (and sideways)… Had similar jobs some years back, and seriously - they needed to talk to _each other_ respectfully, not me (the AV consultant). [edit @ 23:54 ; Poor, poor people. Robbed in the church, by someone trusted? I’ve no words for that… 😔] Best of luck - to the church, and your relentless work! 😊
They do have a nice system too. Just need the drum heads, overhead/drum mics and DI boxes and they'd sound amazing. When i mix drums i always tell them "dont worry, im going to make your drums sound like bombs" lol and i would do it with just 1 kick, 1 snare , 1 mic in middle of toms and 2 condenser overheads. That alone sounds good enough but i LOVE going all out sometimes. Snare top/bottom mic. Kick in and outer mic. Haha. Mics in the right spots and you can get away with needing less mics. For newbies. The guy in this video knows that too. Mic placements important. Great job here.
I've bought a lot of stuff for my church's sound system (I also play on the worship team). The understanding has always been that I am donating the gear to church and that I will never take it back if I leave. People need to remove their ego from the church. Edit: With that being said. The other people in the church have to have some self-awareness. Bringing you back this many times when they clearly don't have what is needed to get everything squared away is just wrong.
I had a music venue like this once which I left after a year when they were doing some renovation work on and off and I would come in to a fully stripped stage with no time to setup week after week. I've only just come back to that venue now that the reno is done and the management has changed 😅
I personally know what you're going through, dealing with a similar situation. Good help is hard to find. They don't want to spend the money. There is a real lack of training and dedication.
Part two - what is the booth upstairs behind the stage? At 16:50 I see, the band! A little different. Let's take the cables and mics with the old speakers. What a mess? Lookout part three, trip six, or is it trip five? Man!!!
A bad engineer can make or break any band, but a good one can make any band be noticed. These videos should be witness to why your church should invest on a audio engineer just as much as they do on musicians
Great job brother! Whether they verbalize it or not, the congregation of the church appreciates your persistence and drive for excellence. I'm still trying to figure out why they had so many wedges on the stage. Frankly, the band could have benefited from an IEM setup instead of wedges.
I was for 2 years a volunteer at my current church as a sound tech. I obsessed over figuring out how everything worked and how it was routed etc. The production leader at the time(paid) had no interest in that only mixing(used to mix for big bands). He told me not to touch anything but insisted on patching new cables every time we had a new input, without removing the old ones (cable bill was huge). He paid mega money to get some studio engineer to tune the system, this guy proceeded to set up PA based off speaker software that wasn’t even close to the same. This guy then complained about every volunteers mixes 🤨 Now he has left I have spent 6months of my own time simplifying and reducing cables (some with 3-4 connections to go 6ft) Now I have almost completed that I have been put into the production position, I am adamant everything needs to be labeled and documented just in case I get called somewhere else one day. I truly feel your pain when you were told the mics weren’t there and you had mentally invested your self in getting that sound check done for them. And when people want to help but they need a level of understanding the system to make that help super useful. Thanks Chris
Hey Chris , I'm doing sound at my church and I'm trying to improve the sound of our live stream. Specifically during gospel. The problem is that we are, obviously, optimizing our mix for in house but we have sub-optimal room acoustics. So i would like to adjust the volumes of the channels for the live stream. I've tried to use a mixbus for this but i cant figure out how to keep the mute state synced to the in house mix. Do you know if this is even possible? We don't have another person to mix a completely separate mix, but adjusting the levels a bit would be enough i think Would appreciate any feedback 🙂 Love the Mixdown meltdown series btw
I can’t begin to give you advice because I don’t know what mixer you’re using, how it’s routed, etc. Every mixer should have a matrix out. Send your stream bus to the matrix and adjust levels where needed to the bus send.
@@chrishammillaudio Thanks so much. We are using the x32 compact, forgot to include it cause almost everybody uses it 🙈 I will try the bus to matrix approach some time and tell you how it went
@@yahatix Try a recording while band is practicing. You can set as source the bus, what feeds the stream. So you can check the levels and adjust them. I hope you fixed feedback issues by using the 31 band Equalizer and not the part EQ. We did it and have a pretty good sound.
What blows me away is that many places, including this one, will put big money into an LED wall, lighting, etc, but audio is terrible and usual using poor quality products or worn out equipment. To be fair, their QSCs aren't terrible.
Man, i thought I had it bad for having to replace a missing DI at the venue I do sound for. These guys got hit big time . Yeah , the only DI they had disappeared, and i only noticed a few weeks later, and i ended up buying a new one out of my pocket to replace it
Yes, I'm aware of Mixing Station. Yes, I know you can load it on your phone. No, I didn't know about both when this video was filmed 9 months ago - Just in case you were going to comment about either.
Lol I was also shocked to only learn about the existence of Mixing Station in the past year, after working in live A/V for almost a decade
@@emmetkowler I’m shocked at how many people spam the comments with the same exact thing.
That actually surprised me the first time you mentioned the iPad in one of the videos...I was like, he'll figure it out, he's smart
I learned about Mixing Station 3 years ago. Just started using it in 2024 though!
I like mixing station
I feel bad for them. Keeping an inventory and a schematic of all your stuff is very essential for every music team. Great job Chris.
I've done A/V tech in the church for 22+ years. All except 1 church assembly was gradual headaches as the church leadership showed their true colors overtime of their attitude toward not only the equipment, but the entire operation, especially the human beings carrying out the tasks. Ignorance is not the core issue, neither is money. Human attitude is the leading cause of failures within human error. I have dealt with those who were ignorant of A/V Tech, and had respectful attitudes and prioritized wisdom, and then those who were ignorant, and their attitudes warranted serious reality check that is not our responsibility to administer.
I side with you, Chris, to only work with people who want us to work with them, and to work in the right way. I'm currently keeping my distance from the church altogether as my patience as a whole has run out and I'm depleted. That is just where I currently am. I acknowledge there are some great church assemblies out there. I'm now very skeptical on how the leaderships treat their technicians, and any wind of BS without legitimate correction, I'm not sticking around for when the pile hits the fan. I've been in too many scenarios of that.
I'm sure there are many who will argue that technicians just need to be more patient. However, there is a difference between being patient with people, and then just enabling intentional stagnation. The imperfection card has no merit either. We're not looking for perfection. We're looking for progress. Anyone with enough experience can ascertain when an individual is bluffing on progress and trying to maintain a stagnation while attempting to pacify those sniffing close to their pile of attempted deception.
A couple of my observations in this setup is leaving equipment loose like it was is very risky. While securing the gear as reasonably possible is more expensive, that's part of the field we're in, and it costs what it costs. That cost is going to materialize one way or another. It can materialize in the scenario this video captured, or it can materialize in the form of upfront expensive, but yet wise decisions yielding results that are worth it. The choice is up to the leadership. Ignorance does not supersede outcome, and most certainly not recklessness. Always have an employed Technical Director. I was doing a consultation for a church that didn't have one, and their wireless systems were 5 years into violation of the FCC, using frequencies that were restricted. A trained and informed personnel needs to be assigned as an overseer for this stuff. The lack of budget or lack of care to get one DOES NOT supersede the outcomes and consequences.
I don't mean to sound harsh on the church, but rather concerned and caring. Sometimes the delivery has to be firm to establish within the human psychology that the subject is serious. And as history has shown with humans, firmness is by a lot of cases the few things we take seriously.
It's wild how churches pay no taxes and are so poorly run with now much people that run churches are getting paid (their income also not getting taxed because the bible or some shit)
I agree with you as well! I can only talk about my experience but someone may be assigned and might know quite a bit about the equipment but does not have any volunteers to help and may be spread thin. Anyway
You are 100 percent correct! I played bass for over 40 years for several churches and after reaching a point of poorly pitiful ethics and attitudes decided 6 years ago to retire from playing and sold all of my basses and bass gear! It was very painful for first couple years but not having to deal with all the human attitudes and unethical situations it soon became much easier! But when I hear a tremendous bass being played I do sort of miss it!!!
@@Deraco1 Yes indeed. I've been in scenarios where the team is dangerously thin that if one person gets sick, the operation is in trouble. In my experience, such scenarios did materialize, but the leadership still refused to apply the lesson learned. That was one of the many occurrences that built the merit to the conclusion that learning is not the problem with mankind, it's attitude. Many humans would rather continue unwise or dysfunctional behaviors and procedures until either consequences with the potential to, or materializes, severely embarrass or traumatize them, and then they start applying what they should have done from the start. Even then, some people remain stubborn.
People of this mindset are not interested in resolve. They are only interested in their ideology.
@@AllenPortman I can relate. I also miss the environment, and in the earlier stages, I was very upset at how unfair it is that good people leave, and the bad people get to stay. I got over it as time passed and pursued other technical passions I have. I like bass as well. 👍
Chris, man you are so patient. I hope no one messes with the setup once you finish up.
I didn’t get a chance to finish up for them to mess it up…..
To be honest its only fair for one to be patient after they got messed with so hard, a wonder he did not take the x32 with him.
I personally never have an issue as long as nobody is messing with me.
My sympathy starts when they tell me they have a bunch of gear missing. My sympathy and patience goes out the window when I take time out of my schedule to show up for a third time, thinking we’re going to dial in the rest of the band, only to walk in on a construction zone and then not telling me about it. Then, on top of it, they don’t put any effort into making a list of what is missing, what needs to be purchased, etc.
Nah. No more patience.
@@chrishammillaudio yeah sounds bad, I didn't follow the whole series
As a 14 year old obsessed with sound engineering and a gigging drummer, I just wanted to say how much your channel has inspired me and taught me. I have been learning sound engineering for 4 years now strictly from TH-cam videos and have even made myself a pretty decent home studio, outfitted with enough to record my heavy rock band and make the mix sound somewhat professional. I've been watching your videos for about a year now, and by doing so you have taught me so many valuable lessons from not only your dingbatz videos, but also these mixdown Meltdown videos. Its honestly hard to find POV videos of a real sound engineer working in the field, so I'm so happy I discovered you.
A while ago, I realized dingbatz was in New Jersey, so immediately, I made sure my band got in contact with the booking team. However, none of the dates worked for all of us, which really sucked. A couple months after that, we broke up and now I'm too busy with high school to be back in multiple bands, having a gig almost every week.
Anyways, I just wanted to say how much of an influence you were to me and that your TH-cam channel can really help and inspire people of all ages.
Right on man. Keep playing and hopefully one day I’ll see you on stage.
thats insane progress from a 14 year old, good job dude. im 15 and as a struggling producer big respect for u man.
Thanks for showing us how hard it is to be a sound engineer. And how it increases in difficulty when the "volunteers" you work with are so disconnected.
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They are volunteers 🤷🏽♂️ why would you expect dedication. Alot of times pastor asks them to do it so they say yes
@@vdominguez355a volunteer should at least know their part of things. I work at a church, every Sunday where the volunteers, at the very least know their part, and it makes it so easy.. we just have an issue with ppl trying to do the audio engineers job
@@Corsair1458 Engineering is not a job of a volunteer unless it's an engineer that is volunteering for a church. It exactly like flying an airplane. Live shows can be crashed too.
@@daleplatino well than, in my case.. it is an engineer volunteering for the church, cause that's me 👋
I do sound and media at our church and I've also gone to other church's to help get their mix in order, I learn so much from these 'church help' videos. Trouble shooting tips, order of operations, and problem solving. Keep them coming.
This is quickly becoming one of my favourite TH-cam series'. Keep up the amazing work!
That into brought so much nostalgia.. I need to rewatch the series again!
Awesome job as always, Chris!
KUDOS to your production on this, turning the unseen into the seen in a captivating way...!
I admire your patience and calmness over this. I would have lost my mind trying to keep track of everything. I'm really hoping we'll get to see a successful final mix. This church has a lot of potential, and it looks like a beautiful place, but it just needs some work and organization. (Also who in their right mind would steal from a church?! That should be a sin!)
I doubt I’ll get called back because it’s been over 9 months.
Reading between the lines here. But Chris got VERY frustrated at this point (for valid reason) and said "that stolen..." and the other guy said "Not stolen, taken." Chris may have went straight to the heart of the matter with a reality check for them, BUT... the "stolen" gear may well have belonged to the guy in question and he just took back his own gear.
I reckon they needed Chris to come in to assess the problem and he (Chris) gave them a list of gear needed to get back on track. There was nothing much more he could have done.
These churches are "helped out" with those who would bring in their own gear to get them by.
Like I can tell you straight up... the keyboards would belong to the players (except the organ). The bass player would have his own bass and amp, etc, etc.
I have a bit of my own PA gear installed to help us out. However, If I were to leave, I wouldn't just take it out leaving them with a great big hole to fill either.
You are indeed correct in saying "...needs some work and organisation" and it's not impossible and they do need to work with people like Chris.
The dragonball recap ost feels just right 😂
I’m happy a few people recognized what it was 😂
@@chrishammillaudio Man, that put me laughting for at least 10 min! hahahhahah
Im enjoying this man, and, learning a lot. Can't get more Real than this. Keep it coming.
Been in the audio world a long time and what you do for these churches is really a blessing. Keep it up Chris.
I got a my dad's small church rocking with an XR18 and Seismic Audio mics, along with some decent stuff. This truly shows me how grateful I need to be in the moments where I face headaches.
Man. I feel for them AND you lol. This is crying time trying to make sense of a system jacked up. Every move you made. I would've made. Same with eq. Ive been involved in singing and sound systems since i was 7 years old and im 42 now. Many years doing this. Amazing work man. Too bad it couldn't be done done.
I oversee the sound at two different ministries. They give me full control to make any changes I need so our sound is amazing. I will never complain ever again. This is crazy. God bless you.
Chris, God bless you dearly for your dedication and patience.
Your intro narration was SPOT ON Brotha!
Can I just add that as a worship leader and musician, when the sound is great it does so much for us as far as freedom and confidence.When we put so much work and effort into music and set lists, it really undermines our creativity and morale when the sound is off. It’s very similar to a guitar, if your tone is great you will automatically play so much better.
Appreciate you for keeping it real of how tough the job can get. Been loving this series since ep 1! Can't wait for what's to come and happy new year!
You ROCK!!! You did what you could Chris
Install engineer here , if I had to tell you the amount of times that I have to go back to a church because they changed something or did something on their own, is unreal
Put a transmitter in a sound bar on a TV so they could stream service from the cameras in the worship room to the TVs throughout the entire church with some nice sound to them. They decided to change the transmitter out themselves.
They did not take the protective plastic off to begin with once burned it up
And they didn’t know how to tune the antenna to the TV
Once we got everything working again, we had no sound because he had it muted from the master on the board. It took me an hour to convince him to look at the board again.
Gotta love what we do
you are an absolute legend that is ALL I can say.
How can you be so chill? I would just write down a list of what NEEDS to be on location before I even sat foot in the location. Qudos to you!
I do, but church's have a wonderful way of not being 100% truthful in our initial consultations and throwing me curveballs.
Yeah the person you speak with doesn't actually know what's up@@chrishammillaudio
@@chrishammillaudio isnt that what churches are all about though? Being truthful?
@@chrishammillaudio Even web developers can throw lots of curveballs at accessibility testers when it comes to complying with WCAG standards (Web Content Accessibility Guidelines). I love that word "curveballs" though. 🤣
At my old church,we had a pro sound engineer and mixed us live during our rehearsal. It sounded amazing! He set a profile and saved it, all somebody had to do was load that profile and not save any live changes. By the next week we sounded horrible again because somebody messed with it. We sounded great for one rehearsal and never again.
That sucks. It’s kind of shocking how some church’s saved over my preset and are now back to being distorted messed.
Your patience is second to none😭🔥🤞🏽
Oh man that sucks! As a church AV/IT/Drummer guy at my church that sucks especially not having the gear that is required for the job. I could not believe being in the position of finding someone stole gear! Hope they get their stuff figured out. You are very patient with them for sure!
I'm here for every post you make!!!
Oh my gosh, this is one of the first videos I ever watched. I really love your intro. It is so hilarious. I subscribed to you a while back. I’m so glad I did. This is amazing.
I enjoy watching this and learning from it as well
Wow! Chris you have the patience of Job Blessings to you
That old volunteer did them dirty.
And both myself and the remaining volunteers realized just how dirty this was in real time, which is even more frustrating.
@@chrishammillaudio Sorry but I get a very different vibe. The lack of communication, interest and investment done by management tells a clear story to me. Mainly that the volunteer had been using his own gear to help out the church, but took back his own gear when they booted him.
@@djpsychic So you didn't actually live this story, rather just watched my two videos, and you somehow know more about what really happened? OK... lol
@@djpsychic BINGO! This happens alot with volunteers who try their damnest to make something out of nothing by bringing their own gear!
@@davidew98yes he probably left on his own, imagine sinking money into equipment to try to get by while nobody respects your time or what you do, then you find out they hire someone to fix what you aren’t doing right, and to top it off they decide they have money to do a renovation right in the middle of it. There is usually one person holding everything together unseen by everyone else, they work tirelessly for no money even invest their own unnoticed until they burn out and leave and when they take the equipment they bought with them all of a sudden they are the bad guy. All speculation in this case but still probably more common than not
I have to wonfer if they just ran out of funds....
For example, I know of a place that has a budget of $500 a year for sound equipment purchases, and they won't go in to debt for anything.
After they bought a digital mixer and stage box, their funding was completely used and they didn't get the rest of what they needed for years.
I love this series!
Thanks for the work you put in to making it
Loved the intro.as said here before, you are so patient dude. I worked music retail for years and churches were good customers. Bought and paid for good equipment.when asked if they had somebody who knew the product , how to install etc they always said they hag a "soundguy" 9 times out of 10 our p.a /installation te h would get called out to fix something.he hated it. Not bashing all churches but they always pleaded poverty when told there was a cost involved to send a guy out to help. Many can play etc but have no technical knowledge which can cause alot of priblems.mike.cape town.south africa.
As many others point to, these are “church leadership issues” projected downwards (and sideways)…
Had similar jobs some years back, and seriously - they needed to talk to _each other_ respectfully, not me (the AV consultant).
[edit @ 23:54 ; Poor, poor people. Robbed in the church, by someone trusted? I’ve no words for that… 😔]
Best of luck - to the church, and your relentless work! 😊
Dude shout out to you for helping out def enjoyed this video series
that intro was epic, haha!!
Intro 🔥
I love chris more and more. The DBZ music has elevated you more lmao
This isn’t even my final form.
Wish we had someone like you in the Atlanta and surrounding areas
@@Zeeajones03 And Buffalo. New York too !
I did a church in the greater Atlanta area and would love to go to Buffalo.
They do have a nice system too. Just need the drum heads, overhead/drum mics and DI boxes and they'd sound amazing. When i mix drums i always tell them "dont worry, im going to make your drums sound like bombs" lol and i would do it with just 1 kick, 1 snare , 1 mic in middle of toms and 2 condenser overheads. That alone sounds good enough but i LOVE going all out sometimes. Snare top/bottom mic. Kick in and outer mic. Haha. Mics in the right spots and you can get away with needing less mics. For newbies. The guy in this video knows that too. Mic placements important. Great job here.
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Isn’t Patience is one of the gifts of the Spirit, Chris has got it in spades
The best intro in TH-cam😂😂😂😂
I've bought a lot of stuff for my church's sound system (I also play on the worship team). The understanding has always been that I am donating the gear to church and that I will never take it back if I leave. People need to remove their ego from the church.
Edit: With that being said. The other people in the church have to have some self-awareness. Bringing you back this many times when they clearly don't have what is needed to get everything squared away is just wrong.
Thanks for the nostalgia in the intro
You are correct my guy. Only give the effort that is wanted!!!!! Not to be mean about it,
Dragon Ball recap, that's GOLD Chris.
Great video 🙌
Just wow...
Love your dedication, bro. ❤
Great work in trying to help this church.
I would lose it trying to communicate and do vocal sound checks with musicians going non-stop!
Man Chris. They are so lucky to have you. Those keys players are like pffft.
When I watch the first minutes, I think about situations, where the other ones didn't do their part and I couldn't finish it.
loved that intro LOL keep it up🤣
I love DBZ. You got my sub.
You're a very patient man! kudos
Love the intro😂
loooove the dragonball recap. hilarious
Bruh. This intro 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥
I absolutely loved the dragon ball intro 😁
Happy new year 🎆🎊🎈 😊
Im super sayin i already did this!
Just finished watching part 1 right now, and in my mind i was hoping Part 2 is out, only to go to the channel and see; 1 minute ago😅
Same! Epic timing
Hey Chris, I love your videos
Can you recommend a eq setting for a stream. Thanks
Impossible to without hearing the room and the band.
Not the Dragonball Z background music!!! 🤣😂
1,2, hey hey
My favorite song.
I had a music venue like this once which I left after a year when they were doing some renovation work on and off and I would come in to a fully stripped stage with no time to setup week after week. I've only just come back to that venue now that the reno is done and the management has changed 😅
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Yo mann i love you dragon ball intro 😂
The intro has to stay😂
I personally know what you're going through, dealing with a similar situation. Good help is hard to find. They don't want to spend the money. There is a real lack of training and dedication.
what a mess. it will be long part 😂. god bless u chris
😂😂😂😂 love the intro
I am my church's sound engineer and I know how it feels when you come in a Sunday morning after someone has used your church and stuff is gone. 😑
Part two - what is the booth upstairs behind the stage? At 16:50 I see, the band! A little different. Let's take the cables and mics with the old speakers. What a mess?
Lookout part three, trip six, or is it trip five? Man!!!
There is no part 3.
I hope you charge a good bit for your services. This is nuts
A bad engineer can make or break any band, but a good one can make any band be noticed. These videos should be witness to why your church should invest on a audio engineer just as much as they do on musicians
28:23 so Where The Ipad Go?? .. by the Same Volunteer???
Probably.
i don’t watch DBZ but that intro was so nails
Man this guy is example of patient, I would never go back for this kinda job, the team is really this disrespectful with the professional
learning so much from u man. cheers from PH 😁
Great job brother! Whether they verbalize it or not, the congregation of the church appreciates your persistence and drive for excellence. I'm still trying to figure out why they had so many wedges on the stage. Frankly, the band could have benefited from an IEM setup instead of wedges.
Did you not pay attention to part 1 and 2? Half of the conversations were about in ears.
@ oh yeah, I was just thinking out loud lol. Church people can be a bit stubborn sometimes 😂
Love the dragonball intro 🤣
Churches and other venues should have their own sound gear to avoid situations like this. Then it won't be theirs to take when they leave.
Appreciate the DBZ references.
😂😂😂😂🎉Nice Dragon ball😁✨
Which digital stage box did they get? I would suggest a SD16 and move the band to P16's instead of the speakers up there.
You’re more than welcome to email them and tell them what to buy. I don’t buy gear for church’s.
@@chrishammillaudio Understood. Was just curious as to which digital stage box they got.
S32
I was for 2 years a volunteer at my current church as a sound tech. I obsessed over figuring out how everything worked and how it was routed etc. The production leader at the time(paid) had no interest in that only mixing(used to mix for big bands). He told me not to touch anything but insisted on patching new cables every time we had a new input, without removing the old ones (cable bill was huge).
He paid mega money to get some studio engineer to tune the system, this guy proceeded to set up PA based off speaker software that wasn’t even close to the same.
This guy then complained about every volunteers mixes 🤨
Now he has left I have spent 6months of my own time simplifying and reducing cables (some with 3-4 connections to go 6ft)
Now I have almost completed that I have been put into the production position, I am adamant everything needs to be labeled and documented just in case I get called somewhere else one day.
I truly feel your pain when you were told the mics weren’t there and you had mentally invested your self in getting that sound check done for them.
And when people want to help but they need a level of understanding the system to make that help super useful.
Thanks Chris
Hey Chris , I'm doing sound at my church and I'm trying to improve the sound of our live stream. Specifically during gospel. The problem is that we are, obviously, optimizing our mix for in house but we have sub-optimal room acoustics.
So i would like to adjust the volumes of the channels for the live stream.
I've tried to use a mixbus for this but i cant figure out how to keep the mute state synced to the in house mix.
Do you know if this is even possible?
We don't have another person to mix a completely separate mix, but adjusting the levels a bit would be enough i think
Would appreciate any feedback 🙂
Love the Mixdown meltdown series btw
I can’t begin to give you advice because I don’t know what mixer you’re using, how it’s routed, etc.
Every mixer should have a matrix out. Send your stream bus to the matrix and adjust levels where needed to the bus send.
@@chrishammillaudio Thanks so much. We are using the x32 compact, forgot to include it cause almost everybody uses it 🙈
I will try the bus to matrix approach some time and tell you how it went
@@yahatix Try a recording while band is practicing. You can set as source the bus, what feeds the stream. So you can check the levels and adjust them.
I hope you fixed feedback issues by using the 31 band Equalizer and not the part EQ.
We did it and have a pretty good sound.
@@yahatix here is our stream
and i thought doing sound at the bar was a headache. I would def need Jesus to help these folks haha!
Lol very funny!
"stress levels reach over 900" hahahaha!
You're gonna have to go back again woop woop!
Pay me first and I will.
@@chrishammillaudio what cash method do you take
Hahaha Nice DBZ INTRO!
This Dragon Ball Z intro is crazy 😂
What blows me away is that many places, including this one, will put big money into an LED wall, lighting, etc, but audio is terrible and usual using poor quality products or worn out equipment. To be fair, their QSCs aren't terrible.
Man, i thought I had it bad for having to replace a missing DI at the venue I do sound for. These guys got hit big time . Yeah , the only DI they had disappeared, and i only noticed a few weeks later, and i ended up buying a new one out of my pocket to replace it
What a ride
Mannn I really want an X32😂. Just for my own personal use lol
They’re dirt cheap now but I suggest you get a Wing. They’re night and day better in every way.
Dragon Ball recap 😆
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