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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ค. 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, JJ Redick and Tim Legler discuss the Phoenix Suns falling behind 2-0 to the Denver Nuggets and much more from the NBA Playoffs.
0:00 Suns’ struggles
1:30 Stephen A.’s take on Nikola Jokic
4:00 Skill and basketball intelligence
7:00 Are the Suns finished?
9:40 Previewing Game 1 of the Lakers vs. Warriors
13:00 Matchups that will determine the series
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Jokic was getting so much unnecessary hate at the end of the season just because of the MVP conversation. He’s absolutely feasting on Ayton and proving why he’s arguably the best player in the league. Nothing the haters can do now except admit how great he is. Love it!
Perkins opened the floodgate and everyone pour it on. He's clearly the MVP but won't get it.
Naaah man, he is not good ... he is just stat padding :D
1v1 skill wise, Embiid beats Jokic. But its 1A 1B. Either or deserves it. But Embiid to me is more potent. Jokic is more about finess and can control the whole team system. Embiid imposes his will. Different styles. Jokic has better cast than Embiid as far as a team as a whole, which impacts what their role is on the team. Because Jokic has a better cast, his assist are up and can easily easily get triple double on a regular. Unlike Embiid who will get you a 30-40 on a regular because he only has Maxey, Harden and Tobias Harris to depend on
@@artistnyc123 how does it taste?
How is debating the best in the league hating. Even being named as a possible candidate for MVP can't be hating 😂
Their bench only scored 4 points. Disgusting
This!!! But I don’t know why we have to blame KD and iBook?
Y'all sacrifice too much depth for KD you guys should have kept Bridges and Johnson while trading Ayton
@@Camefromnone Mr efficient KD shot 10-27 & 2-12 from 3?????
@@ichiganan9508 I’m not saying he played great but eventually you gon have a bad game if you have no bench and have to score all the buckets , it’s just not gonna work
@@youtubewatcher6124 yea but why doesn’t anyone wanna acknowledge that, y’all just wanna hate cuz it’s fun but we get it
Jokic is the Tyson Fury of the NBA. 😂. Dad bod but gifted at his profession
SPOT ON 😂😂😂
Best analysis
He's extremely composed and just takes shots in the flow of the offense.
He lost alot of weight these past few years
Excellent comparison
KD never beating the "Can't win without Steph" argument.
Steph>KD all time don’t @ me
@@CulEdz yup but I don’t think anyone argues that anymore, Steph is top 10 conversations started last year and that instantly put him over kd all time
Kobe beats the CANT WIN W/OUT SHAQ because of different mindset,heart, hardwork that kd do not have and if kawhi does not have injuries they will beat the sun's too even without Paul george
The convo ened in 2022… the Skyfucker is a Top-10 all time
That’s why Curry will ultimately end his career ranked higher than KD all-time
Perk couldn't even show up this morning after picking the Suns LMAOOOOOOOO
Perk is racist lol
For the best, his breathing makes my toes bleed
🤣🤣🤣
SAS- “Just tapping it to himself for crying out loud, just toying with people.” 😂😂😂😂
There is a reason they call him Big Tipper!
Jokic is truly amazing player, he's changed my mind about him.
@@JulianMckeithan-jc9ts It's nice to see that you admit... Most people will stay hatin on him cause they sore..... It's sad. That man had enough of that media & race baiting fans disrespect! He is on a mission.
S,A SAID JOKER CAN'T JUMP UP A CURB!!!! LOL JOKER A BADDD MANNN!!!
😂😂
Denver has the best player and has a much deeper roster, no surprise at the outcome so far.
Suns wouldn’t een had beat Clippers with no pg AND klaw if the refs were normal lol.
@@AliFrankTheTank THIS
@@willn8664 series went back LA 1-1 and they bet the house on PHX. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@AliFrankTheTankStop it bro, the clippers got beat, and that’s ok. All these what ifs you’re talking about are speculation at best.
@@elitemidrange Not really if you had any knowledge of the matchups with EVERYONE healthy. Have some actual sense please. Now the Suns are facing a team that has everyone healthy.
I’ve never heard Sas talk about Jokic without mentioning that he can’t jump onto a curb 😂
SAS “ the dude is a tub of lard for crying out loud”
either curb or a phone book lol
I mean he's not wrong
@@yeatdagoat173 No, just repetitive.
😂😂😂lol
I can't deny it. Stephen A and JJ are so much more enjoyable to watch when they actually discuss and vibe together rather than having heavy arguments.
Jokic deserves more respect Perk always disrespect him saying those MVP awards he got he shouldn't have won them and all kind of BS.
Perk son is a joker fan so i think he is trolling !
Because Jokic is white! If he was Black, Perk would be kissing his feet every game like he does for Embiid.
@@Itsjustlikemagic This is all trolling ! If they all would take a bat to pick for a one million or some real money they would pick Nuggets from start its not even worth debate !
Jokic is unbelievable. W L or draw. Dude moves as slow as anyone on the planet and just does whatever he wants against some of the most athletic people on the planet. Unbelievable.
He’s slow but super tall and super strong plus amazing skills to compensate for lack of athleticism
he can’t run fast, but his footwork and his ability to dance is ELITE
Well said!
It really makes rethink what to look for when you're drafting players to be honest, same thing for Jalen Brunson.
Hes not slow for a man of his size lol. Hes actually really quick
Personally id love for Jokic to win a chip, he’s already an all time great but that would really have him in rare air. He may be the most skilled big man of all time
Jokic is my guy but he needs a chip to cement himself as one of the greatest ever. He's an all-time great already. But a chip would put him in rarefied air like top 15-20 all-time. Moreso than Giannis imo, because the skill level (not to say that Giannis isn't skilled) is so different.
@@zalemdreams Giannis is a dpoy and has finished top 3 in mvp voting for 7 yrs. We get it you guys are happy about joker but read the resume before saying stupid stuff
@@MeBihhhh Not sure why you're so tight, I said in my opinion. Giannis is obviously an all-time great himself but if Jokic wins a chip I'd put him above Giannis because he's a more skilled player. You don't have to agree. Giannis is a legend but it's obvious he doesn't have the type of bag that most other all-time great players have or had. Maybe it doesn't matter to you and that's ok.
@@zalemdreams you say skill as if Giannis doesn’t avg more pts, rbs, blks, stls and a better shooting % in the playoffs than joker.
We get it, skill is subjective so you hide behind that since you can’t point to anything else 😂
@@MeBihhhh Still tight about it. First check the numbers bc they averaged the same amount of rebounds in the regular season and Jokic is averaging more in the playoffs (btw he is still in the playoffs and didn't lose to the 8th seed). Also Jokic's bag is bigger and he generates more points a game with his assists. I ain't no Giannis hater i love the guy and I've rooted for him in every series he played since 2017 but he only has defense on Jokic. Don't act like it's not a conversation.
Nuggets deserve all this success
Molly said “Chris Paul had to leave game 2 with a groin.” 😂
Luka and Jokić sharing custody over Booker and the Phoenix Suns!🤣🤣🤣
Don't forget Giannis as well 😂
@@marcelo1458 Giannis is home😂
@@Camefromnone Giannis has a chip and one of the greatest closeout performances of all-time. Your boy is still under his parental custody.
@@marcelo1458 Giannis just got sent home by an 8th seed. Jimmy butler is his father pipe down😭💀
@@mateogarcia9151 jimmy butlah is the grandfather lol
They don't have an answer for Jokic 😂 that asterisk isn't leaving KD's resume he can't win without Steph
Man this gets very old. You don’t get tired of this wacky comment
Don't give up on KD yet, he will join another superteam or two before he retires and will probably win at least 1 more ring.
@@arthurwright255 😂😂
@@Mook05 KD is still better than Lebron
KD will forever be overshadowed by Curry and LBJ.
It was a bad trade, Suns lost all of their depth, KD is excellent but, you gotta have a supporting cast.. also CP3 didn’t deserve that huge extension, his best days are way behind him, Suns fans deserve better, coming from a lakers fan
Let me slap you real quick fellow Lakers fan, let's not forget how cocky the Suns are during 2021 celebrating AD's injury
As a lakers fan no we don’t want them to get better especially with Gaye-D. Take this down
And, Chris Paul is hurt, again
Dumb take..gave up nothing no chance of title
Depth? They lost 2 players who were starters and gained 2 players KD and Warren. They also signed Terrance Ross. This is on Monty Williams for not playing those two guys but playing Landry Shamet , ish Wainwright, and Damion Lee over those guys
If Porter ever decides to show up on a consistent basis, Denver becomes a very difficult team to beat.
Denver doesn’t really utilize him in their offense (he doesn’t get the ball much). It’s not really his fault
Why was he benched last night during the 2nd half?
@@iluvcakes19 - bc he doesnt play D, so if his shot isnt falling hes useless
@@nydibs cool, I was in the gym and missed that part. Only saw the beginning of the first while he was on and then the second half when he was benched.
@@iluvcakes19 his defense is better than it was last year.
Jokic, Giannis, Luka. These three players have three things in common, they are all from europe, they are great players and they own Phoenix🤣
😂
Where Luka and giannis now?
@@rcruz-zu4sm Giannis is recovering from an injury better question is where is jokers ring let alone final appearance 😂
@@rcruz-zu4sm where Phoenix is going
😂😂😂
Two Serbs and Greek Brother !
Jokic was like a general out there, directing his team 👏
Shogun !
Jokic reminds me of Larry Bird in the sense that they both are not athletic, not fast, not quick, not strong but they’re both are natural hoopers. They have a straight uncanny natural feel for the game of basketball that surpasses their respective lack of athleticism
@The Attempt Bird wasn’t as athletic as other basketball players
Can't jump on a curb 😂😂😂
Always a super brave take to wait until the team you picked is down 0-2 to say its done
So it’s better to say it’s over when the series hasn’t started?
@@ceelost1752 :D
Any team that has Chris Paul on it will NEVER win a championship lol
Keep this same energy
@@jonyboi21 😂😂😂😂😂
And Any KD team without curry will never win a championship
Oh Dam😂
CP3 is literally one of the best PG's of all time.
Yo Stephen A. Said Jokic can't jump onto a curb lmao
And George floyd couldn’t breath lmao
@@bansnabs5523 ?????
@@bansnabs5523 what??
@@bansnabs5523 just like your mama wit my pee pee in her mouth
I'm not sure if it's physically possible for Stephen A. to mention Jokic without mentioning he can't jump onto a curb.
First take has been refreshingly goid recently with a lot of actual bball talk and not fake narratives. Legler and Reddick a big reason
This suns team reminds me of the Miami Heat from 2010 when Lebron just got there. 1st year Wade, Bosh, and James had to do all the scoring while playing 40 minutes a game because they had no bench and it wore them out and prevented a championship. Next year they added Shane Battier, Ray Allen, Norris Cole, Rashard Lewis, and Bird man. Won it 2 years in a row. Suns will be better next year but right now they’re in trouble.
Joker was bullying those dudes last night 😂 chuck said it best on tnt "get off me little fella!! "
Jokic like Tim Duncan out there.
More like the Bird plus 3" and 40 lbs. Neither could jump and both unstoppable.
Not until he wins some rings. Duncan got 5. Plus Duncan way better defender made more all defensive teams and was solid rim protector
Jokic is Tim Duncan in terms of fundamentals minus the defence but like Bird/McHale with the shooting and footwork man passes like Bird and Magic and Arvydas Sabonis. Man is a legend
he is like duncan + bird had a baby. His defense a lil underrated too, the guy is smart defensively not athletic like duncan tho
They miss Cam and Mikal more and more...
KD: You know I’m Kevin Durant right?.. I’m Kevin Durant.. so don’t count me out that quick.
He only said that as a front runner
And what has he won when he was not on an unbeatable warriors team
Your boy got swept last yr to a team Giannis took to 7 by himself
The Joker rolling on the floor after that intro, can’t jump a lick yet making the suns looking too small.
He said they was gone win the title too 😭it’s crazy Terrance Ross and Warren on the bench and not playing
Calendar turns to May and CP3 suffers an injury. You can almost set your clock to it.
Jokic might be this decade's version of Tim Duncan. He looks casual, but is skilled AF.
Stephen a has finally watched a Denver game and realised how good Jokic is!
lmao
Jokic is too good. To me he is the NBA MVP.
It's 2-2 now
This is an absolutely elite lineup
This first take lineup is easily the best and needs to stay this way. Redick and Legs actually talk basketball and real analysis. Stephen A does his thing and it just works so well.
Please stop bringing Kendrick Perkins and keep this lineup.
I can handle Perk if JJ is their but the one person I can’t stand is Mad Dog
I agree 👍
@@Johnlilly252 mad dog don’t contribute nothing fr Lol i like perk for comedic purposes wit sas n jj cuz he the most knowledgeable basketball analyst imo besides broussard
Perk should not be taken seriously. Like comment above said comedic affect
You're triggered by Perk telling the truth about whites?
Thank You Stephen A for giving this kinda love to Jokic. 😊
Nuggets vs Warriors, WCF.
Jokic gonna choke suns v Lakers
@@OhSoNasty 🤣🤣🤣
@@OhSoNasty I found the idiot
Suns vs Warriors
@@OhSoNasty i think you missed the párr where they already loar two games 😂
Jokic reminds me of a Serbian Tim Duncan. Mr fundamental. This might be his time to shine and finally when a title.
Call it what it is if the Clippers was healthy, Suns would have gone down in 5. KD is nothing without Steph!
Don’t disrespect a legend by saying something stupid like that
Not going to say he's nothing he just isn't a leader and not as great as people say
@@letstalkbasketball727 I bet they get swept…
@@letstalkbasketball727 his career without his success with steph fails what people were expecting from him doe u gotta admit. without steph kd jus another all time great scorer in the long list of those that are. steph arguably has had a better version of success in his career without kd if u take into account he gotta Fmvp without him as the clear cut best player on the team. and in the last few years he’s arguably played the best basketball of his career
I really dont think the suns will be swept, but I really want it to happen. Jokic is exceptional
Nuggets in 5 😂
Everyone is waking up all of a sudden to Jokic. Where have ya'll been?
Great takes gentlemen, this is my favorite panel on first take
Stephen A., JJ and Legs👌🏿
I'm a big time Nuggets fan but regardless of the series right now until they win one in Phoenix I'm still nervous. They really need to steal one in Phoenix. This ain't over. Go Nuggets!
LoL then u dont watch all games ! If they are healthy they win all this year ! They are that good as a team but it was a long project it took them 3 years and new GM for Burton and other scrubs leave thank god !
They actually don’t need to win a single game in Phoenix. They have home court. The Suns are the ones who must win a game in Denver.
@@randolphw.5187 True but you want to demoralize them if you steal one in the Suns house
Well, like I've said, teams will find out that giving up their young, defensive, offensive players for superstars doesn’t always pen out.
GIVE THE JOKER THE MVP!! NIKOLAAA JOKICCC
He's THE REAL MVP
I love the respect between these two dudes.
@Stephen A. you're a genius to see all that stuff that Jokic was doing. Like you, man! Great job.
Rondo smirking somewhere 😂
Their coach won’t play their bench and cp3 is injured it over with nuggets in five 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The suns and mavs made a move that should of happened during the off season to have time to build around them and possible trades
Depends all on the Suns bench. It's not about making shots but last night they weren't even looking at the basket to attack. That leaves Booker and KD have to carry all the load. The bench has to be aggressive not only to score but to make sure the defense respects them.
The media is hilarious, Stephen a was glazing kd since the trade
It feels like no one watched the clippers suns series entirely. I think It was pretty evident during that series that the suns weren’t contenders yet by how every game was close until the last 4 minutes or so and the suns were facing a team without their two best players. This is while booker was playing at an incredibly high level too, they just don’t have the depth and chemistry yet to contend imo
JJ is really good. He will become great at this when he stops predicting his buddies are always going to win.
0:59 Sounded like he was gonna say “Denver Nuggets Jeans” 😂
Always love the thumbnails. Stephen A. is really going out on a limb with that prediction. But of course when Phoenix ties it up after 4 he’s going to be singing a new tune.
lol literally NO evidence or sign that will happen. no team assembled mid season goes deep in post season
@@elliottsmith7530 not saying anything about which team is better, just the flip flopping of the tv talking heads.
@@royjones8312 ah i dig it
@@elliottsmith7530 👀
@@henryalvarez4146 haha yea ate my words a bit there innit but i still feel they wont win series. and the narrative of them being title contenders is for real crazy. ive been wrong before lol....history just shows otherwise.
What a bold statement 😂 easy to say that now
jj Reddick blinks every 7 seconds lmao
Its over for the suns. Nuggets in 5
What happened to ayton being Robinson 2.0 lol I remember Perkins saying it back in 21
2:34 i know the TV show he was referring to: When Animals Attack! Lol
It used to come on Fox on Sundays. Funny stuff - it’s on TH-cam. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stephen A. With the backhanded compliments
Suns can hear, and I hate to say it but I don’t think we have a chance. We sacrificed too much depth for KD and simply don’t have an answer for Jokic.
I’m also starting to feel like Deandre Ayton is overrated.
Y'all never learned your lesson from Luka
Your team is also in danger because they crumble under pressure that's why you got KD but will that be enough
Acting like the series is over. We will make adjustments and I doubt KD will be 10-27 again. Defense played tougher for most of the game and plus were at home for 2 straight games. Let me remind you that in round 1 the warriors were down 0-2 to the kings and everyone thought the series was over and then they rallied back.
@@tcgvivo and Murray isn’t gonna have 10 points again this series is over sadly
@@tcgvivobro how can you compare the warriors who just won a championship to the suns 😂. Not even close to the same situation
@@tcgvivo lol ppl said the same thing in the Boston series and he did it again
Ah Chris Paul doin what he does in the playoffs
Where’s Stephen A saying he needs to retire 🧐 like he did Kawhi
JJ could be a great coach in this league someday, his IQ of the game is really something
I feel like we should know better than to write a team off before they have a chance to defend their home court.
Nuggets will sweep them. They played horrible outside Jokic and KCP late shots and Suns still lost. They have no bench, it's over
Jokic is proof that eye sight is tricky he ..looks like he is moving slow but he is not...he have one of fastest first step in the league
76ers over there beating the favorites in the East without Embiid and somehow he is still supposed to be the MVP. What a joke. We’ve seen what the Nuggets look like without Jokić. And now Embiid is injured.. AGAIN. Sitting there injured receiving MVP is laughable 😂
I seen that w/ the bear and the lady 🐻🧘 lol
Jokic is ballerina playing basketball
Stephen A of course will never just say Joker is a dominant player, he has to add his non sense,like there isn't tons of bigs who dont jump...Tim Duncan,Zach Randolph,too many to list tbh. Hairline A is always biased against white, especially white European players, his whole career tbh.
I could hear Legler and JJ brake down and talk about Basketball all day
I remember that bear mauling that lady lol the guy with the karate suit kept hitting him
As soon as that trade was made, I was saying on here and other places that the Suns now have no bench, then weeks later the media started to realize it
Who was on the suns bench before the trade?
Switching up as usual😂
This is the match up I wanted to see just so this Suns team can get exposed 😭
CP111's legs were always time bombs. I think his lack of mobility hurts the Suns on defense like a sore tooth BEFORE this injury.
If the suns lose I want to see the same energy y'all gave kawhi and the clippers when they lost to the nuggets.
Read the comment section lol
Clippers had a better team
Somebody finally said it. SUNS BENCH!!!!
wait, the CP3 curse still lives!
KD is wishing he had joined the Nuggets instead. If this doesn't workout the Suns can consider KD gone, he will find another superteam to join quicker than the Suns got eliminated.
Its wild...joker too skilled...joker like a hybrid version of 90s Sabonis
Kd is gonna take the veteran minimum to join the nuggets
Denver Nuggets are about to sweep to Phoenix Suns
Never going to happen
@@1990758 we will see. I just don't think they can win by playing booker and kd most of the game like they are doing. also paul may be out next game too. who is going to be the x-factor on the suns?
@@sandman45981 before last night everyone was saying China payne 😂😂😂😂
@@sandman45981 That's true but denver did what they needed to do they won the first two games at home.
Nuggets will sweep 🔥🔥🔥
Wobbling into the arena 😂
I can't remember a segment being this good without Molly interrupting. Somebody must have said something
It's crazy how JJ Redick speaks differently on his own podcast than on ESPN. Money can buy opinion easily
Clearly you have not listened to his podcast
@@denniscoleman9512 no, i am making things up and writing comments cause i am bored
He has to have a different take than the person before him for variety
Man, I really want him to win cause instead of celebrated whoever the champion is, we’re gonna have another summer of media and fans online tearing down his career.
He's proving he can't win without a 73-9 team
Oh yeah, and I will love it when he doesn't get the MVP but gets a ring 🙏
@@straightchill100 and we want him to overcome that black cloud. That’s what missing in sports. Rooting for players to have solidification or redemption. Instead, we just tear their careers down. It’s sad.
As they should
He is a front runner lol why he doesn’t say “you know who I am, I’m Kevin Durant” anymore Lmaooo
Like Shannon Sharpe said “the Suns are about to set” 🌅 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drop coverage on the warriors asking to be sweeped
Jokic is obviously stat padding…😂
Sixers vs Nuggets in the Finals. Embiid vs Jokic. Harden vs Murray. 🔥
There's no way embiid still breathing for another 2 rounds.
@@gappergob6169 as a sixers fan, you ain’t lying lol
Dream scenario !
and Nuggets in 6
If Embiid plays against Celtics, 76ers are not going to the finals.
you can literally tell these were the first nuggets' games SAS has watched this entire season
“I believe they are.” 😂😂
I agree they’re DOOMED the coach is gonna run Kd into the ground playing him all those minutes I still think they should give tj warren a chance tho 🤷🏿♂️
nuggets vs lakers WCF