Best Hermit quote ever at minute 9:00. "I don't live there cause it's town. Where there is a town there's people. And where there's people there's not me."
What do you like about it! You said a bunch about the tuning, what about the suspension? I guess I need to read on about rider weight, suspension setup. I would definitely run it harder than you. They do make TTRs.
i once was stuck at a red arrow for 9 changes and when I finally went on the green straight light with no on coming traffic you know what happened.... I hadn't see a two tone car stop adjacent, next thing the night was lit up in blue and red.... nice video When I first got my FE450 the hash throttle response was a new learning curve, and it has taken a couple of hours to learn how to accelerate with out shredding my Michelins on sealed pavement and similar on gravel
This guys going on talking smack about an off road bike but he just riding on flat dirt roads. I have a wr450f of my own and its a face melting demon of a bike.
Nice video man, subbed! I turned a 450f into a supermoto, and I still have my wr250x too. these are such fun bikes. ill get some videos up once this damn snow melts off some. ride safe man!
Can't roller skate in a buffalo herd but you cant be happy if you set your mind to it.The song has a great message in it and if more people would try to live that way they would be lot happier. Good looking bike. Stay safe
Hermit DaVlog I means th WR450F have a many limiters by default. accelerator open only on half. In air filter and in exhaust pipe have a limiters. full manual and information how to fix it all for full power you can find in internet. After that your bike will be really fast.
Yeah, did all that. Including cutting the grey wire. Still didn't care for it. I think if I was a more advanced rider and always off road it'd be good. As a dual sport that rarely gets over 6000 rpm, it just wasn't doing anything for me that the WR250R wasn't adequately doing for me, and on road the WR250R was much more pleasant.
Definitely need to know what kind of riding you are going to be doing. I have purchased at least 2 bikes before and then sold or traded them quickly there after cause the bike wasn't suited for my riding.
have you ever had the chance to ride minitstops daisy chain the duhfactor moded wr 250r 290 big bore+ stroker crank surely those mods are the answer for what the major complaint is about the wr 250 and that the engine is lacking grunt at the low end?
I haven't. Ministop rode mine. When he did he said I should really do the 290 Athena kit. I probably will some day, but every time I get that much money and time I end up just buying a whole dirt bike and redoing it. I know the Athena kit is only $600, but I got my XR250R and XR400R for $1000 each and the XR400R has way more power than a WR250R even with a 290. Also I think if I were to review a newer (2014+) WR450F I might come away with a very different opinion.
true but the big bore kit and stroker crank bringing the displacement to 310cc surely makes sense for someone who wants the electric start, fuel injection, 6 speed gearbox and more modern design i.e good suspension alloy frame etc etc that only the wr250r offers as a true dual sport bike, of course, the drz 400 is the next best thing as we all know unless you can afford the ktm 640 or the newer 690.
+Hermit DaVlog Thanks for putting out this video. Awesome job as usual. Your criticisms of the WR450F are very helpful to me. I've been trying to decide between a DRZ400, 690 Enduro R, and street converted WR450F. You mentioned something like the WR450F may have been a little too much for you. Just to get an idea of how your experience might compare to mine on that bike, what other bikes have you ridden? Do you enjoy riding 2 strokes? I've got a YZ250 2-stroke which I love, I can't help but wonder if I would love the WR450F as a dual sport as well, despite all the drawbacks to the bike as you mentioned.
Yeah, if you like the YZ250 I definitely wouldn't discount the WR450F. Also, that was a 2008 and I bet the 2012s and newer are a different animal. A couple years on the WR250R was really my only experience when I shot that. My biggest gripe with the 450 was that it needed the oil changed every couple of rides, the valves checked every 2000 miles and getting to the carb meant removing the sub frame. All that work and because I'm not that good of a rider I couldn't ride it any better off road than the 250R and on road I don't think anyone would prefer it unless they just had to do wheelies down the highway every 5 minutes. Speaking of which be sure to check out +JakeTheGardenSnake and +revzoot . they both have supermoto WR450Fs and are always fun to watch.
Just read about how short the oil change intervals and how time consuming the valve adjustments on the WR450F are compared to bikes like the DRZ 400, WR250R. Those bikes seem like much much more practical alternatives.
+jhonard tagalog Agreed. In my WR250R review I say I really like it as a dual sport I just wish it had more power, and I get lots of comments like, "Why don't you just put lights on a WR450F." People don't understand that the 250R is nothing like the 250F and 450F and they have different purposes that are really compromised when you try to use them for something else.
amanoncrack I think so too, but if you look at the DRZ400 or the fact that the WR450F is using the 250 frame now it makes you really wonder why Yamaha can't bring us a WR450R.
What year bike is this? That's the only thing I can't figure out from your video and it's not posted in the description. It appears to be before 2012 (when they added fuel injection) Also, I'm looking for MOSTLY off road riding so I would have a much different opinion.
Yeah. The thing is the modern trail bike is a detuned motorcross bike and for motorcross this is fine. A dual sport is made for commuting or long adventures so they're more durable but heavier. I miss the good old days when trail bikes had their own platform instead of being derived from motorcross.
haha highway bit sounds like me on my Klx250 after I changed my sprockets. Enjoyed your take on the 450. Makes me look forward to riding with buddy this spring that picked up is first bike (450f). On a side note, eveRide sent me. 😆
+Denis Boucher eveRide sends people here because he's trying to get less people commenting on his videos. Don't fall for it. Leave two comments on his videos for every one comment you leave on mine just to be sure he doesn't get away with it. Also check out my eveRide play list when you have time th-cam.com/play/PLlugs0BJBPYAA1CzXF2Sv3ga_uAy2A_4L.html
yeah, but wasn't real good at it when I did that bike nor did I spend the time I should have, but I think it was much less plush than I wanted since I like dual sports.
In Colorado it just needed the stock head light, horn, working brake light, mirror, DOT tires and certificate of origination or title, but Colorado is a lot less up in people's shit than most other places.
Yep it's legal, but not from the factory. I've hear it's discontinued too, but I'll be surprised if they bring out a 450 that's factory street legal and doesn't need the valves checked for 27K miles.
honey38baby The WR is built for trail riding. The YZ is built for MX. I ride trails a lot and I have no desire to MX. If you put in the throttle stop screw for the YZ and cut the grey wire so the ignition is running the YZ mapping, I'm not sure if there is still a difference in power. Also more power isn't as important to me as usable power. For my style of riding I'm actually more capable on my WR250R. If I was racing and had the skills to charge things with high RPMs then the WR250F, WR450F, or either YZ would probably be better.
nicbleu Or durability, or low maintenance, or intermediate riding... I took that bike out on some trails with the WR250R and three other guys who have motorcycles and all three preferred riding the WR250R over the WR450F. I was really expecting to find more situations where the 450F trumped the 250R, but the only thing I could find was advanced trails. You make a good point that it's not failing at doing the things it's meant to do, but I hope people watch this and realize if they want a good dual sport experience it's not about putting lights on a trail bike. You have to know both what you and a bike is really capable of doing.
+nicbleu wrf's are enduro it is made for tough riding so it means it is fast on ''uphiil and trails p.o.v it is a off road dirtbike.and the wr's are the dual sports the performance of the dualsport is for road but capable of smooth offroad riding
Yamaha would be smart to detune the 450 for dual sport. Then I would jump all over that! As it stands I think for the money the DR650 is the way to go. For me anyway.
They did actually, it's a detuned yz450 with wide ratio gearing. But after being covered to dual sport, they are the most powerful, but the hardest to maintain apparently.
Haaaaahhh!!! Awesome review man. I own a dual-sport 2004 WR450F, you are correct, the 450F is a beast of a machine when cornered up in tight terrain. That being said, here in the sand and fairly open spaces of southern Utah (no eveRide did not send me - good dude though) the 450F can be a lot of fun. Like you said, the 450 on the freeway = stupid, stupid, stupid...
+HeliMoto Thanks for being objective. Most the time if I say something to knock a bike someone owns they rip me. If everyone owned 5 different bikes I think we could all get along better.
Yeah, dual sporting them seems to be pushing them a little out of their element. Until I was riding both the WR450F and the WR250R regularly and maintaining the WR450F regularly I didn't realize how vast the difference was. If I was going to have a trail only bike I think the WR450F is still a good choice and I think 2005 is a really good year as the steel frame is less rigid and gives MUCH easier access to the motor and carb.
Wow, the stock WR450F is soooo sloww, it's funny how this guy describes how a mortal person could never handle it, I can't stop laughing, what a anemic turd!
Best Hermit quote ever at minute 9:00. "I don't live there cause it's town. Where there is a town there's people. And where there's people there's not me."
Thanks!
The wr450f isn’t a dual sport. It’s an enduro. It’s meant for offroad racing. Not the casual, comfortable cruise.
What do you like about it! You said a bunch about the tuning, what about the suspension? I guess I need to read on about rider weight, suspension setup. I would definitely run it harder than you. They do make TTRs.
i once was stuck at a red arrow for 9 changes and when I finally went on the green straight light with no on coming traffic you know what happened.... I hadn't see a two tone car stop adjacent, next thing the night was lit up in blue and red....
nice video When I first got my FE450 the hash throttle response was a new learning curve, and it has taken a couple of hours to learn how to accelerate with out shredding my Michelins on sealed pavement and similar on gravel
This guys going on talking smack about an off road bike but he just riding on flat dirt roads. I have a wr450f of my own and its a face melting demon of a bike.
Go search a video on TH-cam called yamaha WR 450 fast trail ride.
4:03-5:03 you can tell time has passed..probably 10-15 mins by the shadows moving.
+Bob Swagger I don't remember, but if I can say everything straight one time in under an hour I'm doing pretty good.
Yea the few times I recorded myself riding I've had to make several takes. You did good in this one!
Nice video man, subbed! I turned a 450f into a supermoto, and I still have my wr250x too. these are such fun bikes. ill get some videos up once this damn snow melts off some. ride safe man!
beaterbaja I know how that is.
Thinking on the same thing ..why not the DRZ though
"...I don't live there cause it's a town. And where there's a town, there's people, and where there's people there's not me" Subbed!
Thanks!
Best line ever!
I love my WR450F to bits. But I use it strictly as a dual sport. No trail or hard enduro for me.
Can't roller skate in a buffalo herd but you cant be happy if you set your mind to it.The song has a great message in it and if more people would try to live that way they would be lot happier. Good looking bike. Stay safe
Good vid! My family is moving to Sioux Falls in the summer . Maybe we could meet up and ride.
Lol he doesn't like people... good luck with that brother
Thanks for video. Did you unlock your bike?
Thanks for watching. Not sure what you mean by "unlock"
Hermit DaVlog I means th WR450F have a many limiters by default. accelerator open only on half. In air filter and in exhaust pipe have a limiters. full manual and information how to fix it all for full power you can find in internet. After that your bike will be really fast.
Yeah, did all that. Including cutting the grey wire. Still didn't care for it. I think if I was a more advanced rider and always off road it'd be good. As a dual sport that rarely gets over 6000 rpm, it just wasn't doing anything for me that the WR250R wasn't adequately doing for me, and on road the WR250R was much more pleasant.
I see. So if ride on road WR250R is better for you? How about off road and hard enduro?
buy you a ktm 690 enduro r and let me have the 450f
Definitely need to know what kind of riding you are going to be doing. I have purchased at least 2 bikes before and then sold or traded them quickly there after cause the bike wasn't suited for my riding.
have you ever had the chance to ride minitstops daisy chain the duhfactor moded wr 250r 290 big bore+ stroker crank surely those mods are the answer for what the major complaint is about the wr 250 and that the engine is lacking grunt at the low end?
I haven't. Ministop rode mine. When he did he said I should really do the 290 Athena kit. I probably will some day, but every time I get that much money and time I end up just buying a whole dirt bike and redoing it. I know the Athena kit is only $600, but I got my XR250R and XR400R for $1000 each and the XR400R has way more power than a WR250R even with a 290. Also I think if I were to review a newer (2014+) WR450F I might come away with a very different opinion.
true but the big bore kit and stroker crank bringing the displacement to 310cc surely makes sense for someone who wants the electric start, fuel injection, 6 speed gearbox and more modern design i.e good suspension alloy frame etc etc that only the wr250r offers as a true dual sport bike, of course, the drz 400 is the next best thing as we all know unless you can afford the ktm 640 or the newer 690.
......WHERE WERE YOU AT?!.....
He said CO.
+Hermit DaVlog Thanks for putting out this video. Awesome job as usual. Your criticisms of the WR450F are very helpful to me.
I've been trying to decide between a DRZ400, 690 Enduro R, and street converted WR450F. You mentioned something like the WR450F may have been a little too much for you. Just to get an idea of how your experience might compare to mine on that bike, what other bikes have you ridden? Do you enjoy riding 2 strokes? I've got a YZ250 2-stroke which I love, I can't help but wonder if I would love the WR450F as a dual sport as well, despite all the drawbacks to the bike as you mentioned.
Yeah, if you like the YZ250 I definitely wouldn't discount the WR450F. Also, that was a 2008 and I bet the 2012s and newer are a different animal. A couple years on the WR250R was really my only experience when I shot that. My biggest gripe with the 450 was that it needed the oil changed every couple of rides, the valves checked every 2000 miles and getting to the carb meant removing the sub frame. All that work and because I'm not that good of a rider I couldn't ride it any better off road than the 250R and on road I don't think anyone would prefer it unless they just had to do wheelies down the highway every 5 minutes. Speaking of which be sure to check out +JakeTheGardenSnake and +revzoot . they both have supermoto WR450Fs and are always fun to watch.
Great info, thanks again!
Just read about how short the oil change intervals and how time consuming the valve adjustments on the WR450F are compared to bikes like the DRZ 400, WR250R. Those bikes seem like much much more practical alternatives.
for real the wrf is a enduro dirtbike and it is powerful on mountain riding
+jhonard tagalog Agreed. In my WR250R review I say I really like it as a dual sport I just wish it had more power, and I get lots of comments like, "Why don't you just put lights on a WR450F." People don't understand that the 250R is nothing like the 250F and 450F and they have different purposes that are really compromised when you try to use them for something else.
amanoncrack I think so too, but if you look at the DRZ400 or the fact that the WR450F is using the 250 frame now it makes you really wonder why Yamaha can't bring us a WR450R.
Why is the wr450 stupid on the highway?
That sucks about the carb access. My steel frame wr450f i can take out the carb with ease
What year bike is this? That's the only thing I can't figure out from your video and it's not posted in the description. It appears to be before 2012 (when they added fuel injection) Also, I'm looking for MOSTLY off road riding so I would have a much different opinion.
that sucks! that much maintenance!?? looks like the 250 is the way to go.
Yeah. The thing is the modern trail bike is a detuned motorcross bike and for motorcross this is fine. A dual sport is made for commuting or long adventures so they're more durable but heavier. I miss the good old days when trail bikes had their own platform instead of being derived from motorcross.
"Can't roller skate in a Buffalo herd". 😂
haha highway bit sounds like me on my Klx250 after I changed my sprockets. Enjoyed your take on the 450. Makes me look forward to riding with buddy this spring that picked up is first bike (450f).
On a side note, eveRide sent me. 😆
+Denis Boucher eveRide sends people here because he's trying to get less people commenting on his videos. Don't fall for it. Leave two comments on his videos for every one comment you leave on mine just to be sure he doesn't get away with it. Also check out my eveRide play list when you have time th-cam.com/play/PLlugs0BJBPYAA1CzXF2Sv3ga_uAy2A_4L.html
+Hermit DaVlog Well if post up a vlog on the misery of trail riding in mud/snow covered trails like my last, its a deal.
Have you tried the BMW G 310 GS?!....
What year is the bike I thought the wr450 f was efi from 2011 but I could be wrong
Country enduro 450 it's an '08
Did you and Ned adjust the suspension and set sag?
yeah, but wasn't real good at it when I did that bike nor did I spend the time I should have, but I think it was much less plush than I wanted since I like dual sports.
Hermit DaVlog agreed not a good ds bike,just figured it would help traction and twitchyness.
Do you have a parts list that made the WR street legal? I kinda wished I had gotten a fuel injected one in hindsight...
In Colorado it just needed the stock head light, horn, working brake light, mirror, DOT tires and certificate of origination or title, but Colorado is a lot less up in people's shit than most other places.
Thanks!
You change the oil every other ride?
Nope, but that's that the manual says to do. Certainly not going to go 3K miles on an oil change like I do with the WR250R or DRZ400.
is this a street legal bike and I hear the wr250r will be discontinued and the 450 will take it's place
Yep it's legal, but not from the factory. I've hear it's discontinued too, but I'll be surprised if they bring out a 450 that's factory street legal and doesn't need the valves checked for 27K miles.
Nice video dude.
good vid you need a bit of saturation in your video 1:00 for example green isnt that green... Ps i live in rochester ny maybe well meet sometime!
Sweet..I ALREADY HAVE A WR250FR..be it an 04 carbed but hey for what I got it for ..screaming bike.n deal
why a WR when the YZ has more power? was it because it was easier to DS?
honey38baby The WR is built for trail riding. The YZ is built for MX. I ride trails a lot and I have no desire to MX. If you put in the throttle stop screw for the YZ and cut the grey wire so the ignition is running the YZ mapping, I'm not sure if there is still a difference in power. Also more power isn't as important to me as usable power. For my style of riding I'm actually more capable on my WR250R. If I was racing and had the skills to charge things with high RPMs then the WR250F, WR450F, or either YZ would probably be better.
From 1 litre,how far can it run???
I understand the peopleyness factor being a downer... and the wr450's are awesome dirt monsters...
Hey do you live in Colorado
Andrew Homer Yep. Almost every video on the channel is shot in Colorado. Thanks for watching.
maybe the wr450 is not made for going fast and that s why it s not a dual sport
nicbleu Or durability, or low maintenance, or intermediate riding... I took that bike out on some trails with the WR250R and three other guys who have motorcycles and all three preferred riding the WR250R over the WR450F. I was really expecting to find more situations where the 450F trumped the 250R, but the only thing I could find was advanced trails. You make a good point that it's not failing at doing the things it's meant to do, but I hope people watch this and realize if they want a good dual sport experience it's not about putting lights on a trail bike. You have to know both what you and a bike is really capable of doing.
+Hermit DaVlog they like it because its more comfort i guess , but the WR450F is nothing about comfort its just for sport
+nicbleu wrf's are enduro it is made for tough riding so it means it is fast on ''uphiil and trails p.o.v it is a off road dirtbike.and the wr's are the dual sports the performance of the dualsport is for road but capable of smooth offroad riding
jhonard tagalog wrf are not dual sports , they are killer enduro machines , the wrr (250cc) are the dual sport bikes
legend says hes still waiting at that very light to this day
+KrazyKaliforniaKid88 Ha!
Ask Ned what kind of MPG that 450 gets. LOL "wish it didn't make this video" Great Picture Pastes... "stupid stupid stupid" LOL!
Yamaha would be smart to detune the 450 for dual sport. Then I would jump all over that! As it stands I think for the money the DR650 is the way to go. For me anyway.
They did actually, it's a detuned yz450 with wide ratio gearing. But after being covered to dual sport, they are the most powerful, but the hardest to maintain apparently.
Haaaaahhh!!! Awesome review man. I own a dual-sport 2004 WR450F, you are correct, the 450F is a beast of a machine when cornered up in tight terrain. That being said, here in the sand and fairly open spaces of southern Utah (no eveRide did not send me - good dude though) the 450F can be a lot of fun. Like you said, the 450 on the freeway = stupid, stupid, stupid...
+HeliMoto Thanks for being objective. Most the time if I say something to knock a bike someone owns they rip me. If everyone owned 5 different bikes I think we could all get along better.
Sittin idle like that with the motor runnin’ Would be the last time You ever rode My bike,don’t give a damn who You are.
Have you ever thought about not being a hermit?
Nah, that would be so unnatural.
You're pretty funny man. I enjoy your videos. I think I have decided on the wr250r.
Yeah it's not perfect, but it's fun. Got a comparison of it and the DRZ coming out tomorrow. Come back and check it out.
"Best dual sport"
*crf450l has entered the chat*
Who is Ned?
Kinda my dual sport benefactor. I explained it a little in the first video and a few others.
Who the heck is Ned?!?
I like your style, I'll like for now. If your other vids are good I'll sub :D
rowanlewisuk Nah, the other videos suck. Quit while you're ahead.
I almost started looking for a used wr450f...thanks for the funny but honest review!
I have a 2005 Yamaha wr450f dual sport and I can't stand it! I've only had trouble from it. Going to a wr250r very soon for the fuel injection
Yeah, dual sporting them seems to be pushing them a little out of their element. Until I was riding both the WR450F and the WR250R regularly and maintaining the WR450F regularly I didn't realize how vast the difference was. If I was going to have a trail only bike I think the WR450F is still a good choice and I think 2005 is a really good year as the steel frame is less rigid and gives MUCH easier access to the motor and carb.
Wow, the stock WR450F is soooo sloww, it's funny how this guy describes how a mortal person could never handle it, I can't stop laughing, what a anemic turd!
Cycle cruza sent me hear
+Pablo Oliva Well don't be too mad at 'em.
i just feel like u shouldnt say its stupid bcz u lacked skills
Sure it ain’t a bike for you 😀😀
Yamaha best dirtbike.